Official NFL Thread: NFL Draft Weekend

[Mr. Gundam]

Don't assume anything, PD. I hope we win on Monday, but the Hawks have been really inconsistent so far.

[Phoenix Dark]

Nah breh. Seattle at home. That defensive line? Cam back? Nah. Perhaps Seattle will struggle on offense, but I'm not talking about that. Defense wise they're going to manhandle our o-line.

[Tasty]

Man, it must really suck to have a sucky team.

[El Babua]

Fucking Dolphins. Worthless ass bastards.

Also...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=180142796&postcount=9268

[Kara]

pd

[Mr. Gundam]

Nah breh. Seattle at home. That defensive line? Cam back? Nah. Perhaps Seattle will struggle on offense, but I'm not talking about that. Defense wise they're going to manhandle our o-line.

Lesson number one of being a Seattle sports fan: assume nothing.

[Human Snorenado]

This Falcons team isn't very good, but we have the benefit of playing in a shitty division and playing the NFC East this year, which is also not very good, and we've beaten the two teams we were playing on the road against from that division already, so I kind of think we'll win the division and get crushed in the first or second round of the playoffs, which I guess counts as improvement.

Patriots are, barring an injury to Gronk, going 19-0 this year though. Their schedule only has two tough games on it IMO- @ Indy (which they should win, honestly) and @ Denver, which might give them trouble.

[eleuin]

[Mr. Gundam]

Man, it must really suck to have a sucky team.

Aside from a few teams (Cleveland, Jacksonville, etc.) the NFL is cyclical based on the salary cap system. It's way more competitive than MLB where you can spend as much as you want every year. Once, your Patriots were terrible. Now they're really good. The more important question is: will you still be a fan when they're bad?

[Tasty]

Man, it must really suck to have a sucky team.

Aside from a few teams (Cleveland, Jacksonville, etc.) the NFL is cyclical based on the salary cap system. It's way more competitive than MLB where you can spend as much as you want every year. Once, your Patriots were terrible. Now they're really good. The more important question is: will you still be a fan when they're bad?

Of course. I'll always have more of a fondness for the Pats than any other NFL team, always have.

However, the benefit of being a sports fan in NE is you always have at least one winning team you can focus on.

[Human Snorenado]

The Patriots have been good for 15 years now, though. They're an anomaly in the NFL.

[CatsCatsCats]

Cuz they're 'muricahs team

[Kara]

Cheaters always prosper.

[Human Snorenado]

Cheaters always prosper.

[dkdk]

Man, it must really suck to have a sucky team.

Nah it sucks to have a sucky team with no upside or a team treading water. The last few years of being a Titans fan has been boring af. Now we got Mariota, Wright and DGB and its fun again to see how things can be built.

[Phoenix Dark]

NE has drafted pretty well, including the best QB in the league. They have a good front office and good coach who has surrounded himself with talented assistants, which is ultimately what it takes to win in this league. Same with Green Bay, same with Seattle (over the last few years), etc.

How many moderate or big name FAs does Green Bay sign each year? Almost none, because they draft well. Whereas bad organizations like Detroit or Oakland end up paying boatloads of money for outside talent. I think Golden Tate is great obviously but if we had drafted well we wouldn't have needed to sign him.

Traditionally the Lions have had a bad front office. The Fords have done great things for this country but they're piss poor NFL owners and have caused me much heartburn. You can't put relationships over effectiveness/competency. Yet old man Ford (RIP) let Matt Millen ruin this franchise as GM for years because he loved him like a son. And we're only just now recovering, yet we still suck.

[Human Snorenado]

Also, NE does a great job of signing inexpensive free agents that either fit their system well, or can be molded into useful parts for that system. On top of that, players that want to win championships will sometimes sign for less than market value just to play in NE.

And they say cheating doesn't pay.

[TakingBackSunday]

There are a handful of NFL teams that have great success year in and year out because of great ownership, coaching, personnel, and consistent quarterback play:

- New England
- Indianapolis
- Pittsburgh
- Green Bay

[jakefromstatefarm]

NE has drafted pretty well, including the best QB in the league.

[jakefromstatefarm]

Actually you know what, the way bradys playing right now it's splitting hairs between him and fraudgers

[Kara]

I understand that as spectators we don't like to admit to ourselves that we aren't watching genuine competition, but y'all throwing out American Dream cliches like a buncha rubes for an organization that has been caught and punished for cheating.

Being the best cheater in an arena rife with cheating is an accomplishment. imo the GDR Olympic Team is one of the greatest sports enterprises ever.

[Phoenix Dark]

Yea it's pretty much Brady, Rodgers, and then everyone else. Rodgers is probably better within this time period but Brady is clearly the GOAT.

[TakingBackSunday]

What about Ben doe

[Tasty]

The Patriots have been good for 15 years now, though. They're an anomaly in the NFL.

Kinda wish the Bruins were the anomaly though

#firstworldproblems #nesportsproblems

[Human Snorenado]

There are a handful of NFL teams that have great success year in and year out because of great ownership, coaching, personnel, and consistent quarterback play:

- New England
- Indianapolis
- Pittsburgh
- Green Bay

One of those teams is not like the other. Since 2001, only New England hasn't had a losing or .500 season. They've missed the playoffs a grand total of twice (2002 on a 9-7 year, sandwiched between 3 super bowl titles, and the year Brady was hurt when they 11-5.) The Patriots are operating on another level.

[Human Snorenado]

What about Ben doe

No talent rapist. It is known.

[Tasty]

Cheaters always prosper.

I understand that as spectators we don't like to admit to ourselves that we aren't watching genuine competition, but y'all throwing out American Dream cliches like a buncha rubes for an organization that has been caught and punished for cheating.

Being the best cheater in an arena rife with cheating is an accomplishment. imo the GDR Olympic Team is one of the greatest sports enterprises ever.

The fact that this of all things is what makes you get into a serious conversation is hilarious to me.

[nachobro]

There are a handful of NFL teams that have great success year in and year out because of great ownership, coaching, personnel, and consistent quarterback play:

- New England
- Indianapolis
- Pittsburgh
- Green Bay

lol andrew luck[

[Tasty]

NE has drafted pretty well, including the best QB in the league.

[jakefromstatefarm]

I understand that as spectators we don't like to admit to ourselves that we aren't watching genuine competition, but y'all throwing out American Dream cliches like a buncha rubes for an organization that has been caught and punished for cheating.

Being the best cheater in an arena rife with cheating is an accomplishment. imo the GDR Olympic Team is one of the greatest sports enterprises ever.

I'm that way with calipari, when you're appealing to integrity in a league that demonizes it's labor for choosing to profit off of services rendered, you should probably reprioritize. Our organized competition is a really good illustrator of what's awful about American culture, I'd rather revel in it than pretend like it's an aberration

[TakingBackSunday]

There are a handful of NFL teams that have great success year in and year out because of great ownership, coaching, personnel, and consistent quarterback play:

- New England
- Indianapolis
- Pittsburgh
- Green Bay

One of those teams is not like the other. Since 2001, only New England hasn't had a losing or .500 season. They've missed the playoffs a grand total of twice (2002 on a 9-7 year, sandwiched between 3 super bowl titles, and the year Brady was hurt when they 11-5.) The Patriots are operating on another level.

That doesn't disprove my statement, that just means the Patriots have been the best team out of the four since the early 2000s.  Since 2002, the Colts only had one losing season because of Peyton's injury.  Packers only had two since since 1991.  Steelers, only one losing season since 2000.

They're all consistently competitive, nearly always a pain in their divisions, and absolutely organizations with strong drafting, ownership, and coaching.

[Human Snorenado]

You're essentially trying to argue that those four franchises are equals, which is untrue: over that time span, the other teams have losing seasons, fewer trips to the playoffs (with the exception of the Colts, who also only missed the playoffs twice but had losing seasons the years they missed the playoffs), shittier winning percentages, and fewer super bowl titles.

Are they good franchises? Yes. Are they as good as the Patriots? No. If you want to call them all A caliber teams, you have to acknowledge the Pats as A-1. Kiss the ring, and also plz acknowledge that your qb is a rapist.

[Tasty]

You're essentially trying to argue that those four franchises are equals, which is untrue: over that time span, the other teams have losing seasons, fewer trips to the playoffs (with the exception of the Colts, who also only missed the playoffs twice but had losing seasons the years they missed the playoffs), shittier winning percentages, and fewer super bowl titles.

Are they good franchises? Yes. Are they as good as the Patriots? No. If you want to call them all A caliber teams, you have to acknowledge the Pats as A-1. Kiss the ring, and also plz acknowledge that your qb is a rapist.

[TakingBackSunday]

You're essentially trying to argue that those four franchises are equals, which is untrue: over that time span, the other teams have losing seasons, fewer trips to the playoffs (with the exception of the Colts, who also only missed the playoffs twice but had losing seasons the years they missed the playoffs), shittier winning percentages, and fewer super bowl titles.

Are they good franchises? Yes. Are they as good as the Patriots? No. If you want to call them all A caliber teams, you have to acknowledge the Pats as A-1. Kiss the ring, and also plz acknowledge that your qb is a rapist.

I'm saying that those four teams are in the top of league success over the last 15 years.  I'm not arguing the Patriots are the best.  I'm also not arguing that Roethlisberger is a shitty human

I don't have the energy for this fight

[Phoenix Dark]

can't discount Patriots cheating either. Spygate should have gotten them shitcanned, NCAA death penalty style.

[T234]

I need Rodgers to score 11 more points than his defense for me to upset PD.

[Tasty]

http://yourteamcheats.com/

[Am_I_Anonymous]

This whole page hurts my head. Step it up dudes, this shit smells of entirely displaced fan opions. Just sayin....

Unless you said Tom Brady is the GOAT. If so and you shoot proper props to Moss as being the most talented receiver (Julio Jones on the up tho) of all time then you can fuck with me.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Dat season of Prime Brady to just past prime moss was 

[Human Snorenado]

Dat season of Prime Brady to just past prime moss was 

I had Brady, Moss and Welker that year on my fantasy team

[dkdk]

Dat season of Prime Brady to just past prime moss was 

when they made revis pull his hammy 

[bluemax]

I understand that as spectators we don't like to admit to ourselves that we aren't watching genuine competition, but y'all throwing out American Dream cliches like a buncha rubes for an organization that has been caught and punished for cheating.

Being the best cheater in an arena rife with cheating is an accomplishment. imo the GDR Olympic Team is one of the greatest sports enterprises ever.

A wise man once said, "If ya ain't cheatin' ya ain't tryin".

[Phoenix Dark]

So Aaron Godgers is pretty  good huh.

[ToxicAdam]

In my mind, when Rodgers is on, there is no QB that has ever been better.

[jakefromstatefarm]

if green bay never left lambeau I don't think they'd lose a single game

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/status/648946083826126848

[jakefromstatefarm]

Not professional, but relevant to the sport: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-death-of-evan-murray/

[T234]

So Aaron Godgers is pretty  good huh.

Yep. 40 fantasy points.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Not professional, but relevant to the sport: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-death-of-evan-murray/

Yeah let's fucking ban sports.

Oh yeah include baseball (somebody could get a line drive off the head and die), Hockey, Softball, track (because of heart attacks), etc.

Stop being pussies america.

[Tasty]

The mental gymnastics football diehards pull to justify the health issues always comes off as ridiculous to me.

But to each their own.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

The mental gymnastics football diehards pull to justify the health issues always comes off as ridiculous to me.

But to each their own.

I could say the same about the assholes who are trying to tell me how to raise my kids while removing any facet of manhood from this country....

[jakefromstatefarm]

Mmkay, crisis of masculinity, that's definitely one way to respond, anyone else have an opinion?

[Kara]

Well, RE racing, I think it would kill more children if it were profitable to do so. At least in domestic racing, I don't follow the F1 feeder career path but FIA at least appears more concerned with fatalities than our governing bodies.

As for the rest of the article, I tend to part ways with progressives that try to argue extraordinary circumstances (in this case, football's health costs), but base and superstructure enjoy less acceptance than Kabbalah so I'm not going to die on that hill.

More than a little depressing that this is still applicable today.

[T]he little children who in this system are robbed of their childhood and in their tender years are seized in the remorseless grasp of Mammon and forced into the industrial dungeons, there to feed the monster machines while they themselves are being starved and stunted, body and soul.

[Phoenix Dark]

Just heard that Seattle has given up two touchdowns to opposing receivers at home since the beginning of last season. Wow.

incoming blowout

[Steve Contra]

Well, RE racing, I think it would kill more children if it were profitable to do so. At least in domestic racing, I don't follow the F1 feeder career path but FIA at least appears more concerned with fatalities than our governing bodies.

As for the rest of the article, I tend to part ways with progressives that try to argue extraordinary circumstances (in this case, football's health costs), but base and superstructure enjoy less acceptance than Kabbalah so I'm not going to die on that hill.

More than a little depressing that this is still applicable today.

[T]he little children who in this system are robbed of their childhood and in their tender years are seized in the remorseless grasp of Mammon and forced into the industrial dungeons, there to feed the monster machines while they themselves are being starved and stunted, body and soul.

I remember my friend taking his kid to peewee football when he was 8 and they were talking about 2 a days, 5 days of practice and a game on Saturdays.  For fucking 7 year olds.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Well, RE racing, I think it would kill more children if it were profitable to do so. At least in domestic racing, I don't follow the F1 feeder career path but FIA at least appears more concerned with fatalities than our governing bodies.

As for the rest of the article, I tend to part ways with progressives that try to argue extraordinary circumstances (in this case, football's health costs), but base and superstructure enjoy less acceptance than Kabbalah so I'm not going to die on that hill.

More than a little depressing that this is still applicable today.

[T]he little children who in this system are robbed of their childhood and in their tender years are seized in the remorseless grasp of Mammon and forced into the industrial dungeons, there to feed the monster machines while they themselves are being starved and stunted, body and soul.

I remember my friend taking his kid to peewee football when he was 8 and they were talking about 2 a days, 5 days of practice and a game on Saturdays.  For fucking 7 year olds.

Yeah and it showed me how to function in a team environment and gave me an unbreakable work ethic.

Can't shine if you don't grind.

Hell remember my parents working ridiculous hours but still having time to go to my games and get me to practice. They never bitched about it. It's called sacrifice which is a word people under 30 don't comprehend.

TL/DR: Fuck over your kids because you think your time is more valuable than there brehs. 

[Steve Contra]

Yeah, no other way to instill those those values besides giving them concussions

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Yeah, no other way to instill those those values besides giving them concussions

Let's hug everybody and tell them they are all winners instead. Get rid of all competitive sports because oh no you can hurt yourself. Then send them out to real life to fail.

I'd do it all over again. No complaints from me.

Funniest part is every one of you cac cluckers got that NFL tuned in every Sunday. Support that cause brehs...watch soap operas or something more attuned to your nature instead

[Steve Contra]

Man, that's what you took from what I said?  I bet you yell at your kids coaches.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Man, that's what you took from what I said?  I bet you yell at your kids coaches.

Never. Care to make another assumption?