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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9181 on: September 25, 2014, 01:04:57 PM »
Yup.
And of course, I wont ask why you just had that lying around.
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« Reply #9182 on: September 25, 2014, 01:06:09 PM »
Pretty sure he has posted that at least twice in the NSFW thread  :lol
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« Reply #9183 on: September 25, 2014, 01:06:51 PM »
my good sir, you simply just have to image search for 'loli tattoo' :tophat





if of course it isn't saved in your favorites :tophat

edit: i should post more in the nsfw thread :tophat
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« Reply #9184 on: September 25, 2014, 01:07:14 PM »
Yup.
And of course, I wont ask why you just had that lying around.
We have this  :nsfanyone just for Arvie.  That's why he has it laying around.
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« Reply #9185 on: September 25, 2014, 01:16:44 PM »
jesus christ almighty

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« Reply #9186 on: September 25, 2014, 01:17:34 PM »
that's not even the worst, which would be a dude fucking a baby in the ass
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« Reply #9187 on: September 25, 2014, 01:21:22 PM »
Hahaha, I just figured it was Arvie that posted the tattoo in question and not Mac.

Get confused for Arvie brehs :neogaf

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« Reply #9188 on: September 25, 2014, 01:24:23 PM »
:brazilcry
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« Reply #9189 on: September 25, 2014, 01:27:34 PM »
:rofl Destiny :rofl
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« Reply #9190 on: September 25, 2014, 01:45:14 PM »
I will probably get Destiny when it comes to PC with all the DLC for cheap.

I need those skyboxes in my life after they fucked that up with Halo 4.

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« Reply #9191 on: September 25, 2014, 02:02:16 PM »
I will probably get Destiny when it comes to PC with all the DLC for cheap.

I need those skyboxes in my life after they fucked that up with Halo 4.
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« Reply #9192 on: September 25, 2014, 02:04:51 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=900839

surprised how few bans are being doled out itt :hitler
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« Reply #9193 on: September 25, 2014, 02:10:34 PM »
I'm glad there arent more bans, dont want those fuckheads coming over here.

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« Reply #9194 on: September 25, 2014, 02:11:46 PM »
Do people even read those threads? They all just seem like a platform to make the same sarcastic jokes about authority or veiled bigoted remarks intended to troll others.


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« Reply #9195 on: September 25, 2014, 02:14:56 PM »
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« Reply #9196 on: September 25, 2014, 02:17:02 PM »
Do people even read those threads? They all just seem like a platform to make the same sarcastic jokes about authority or veiled bigoted remarks intended to troll others.
pretty much. there is also something vaguely gross about racist-baiting and sarcasm dropping in a thread about a dead person.


but god forbid you riff on mods editing thread titles NOT BITTER :tocry
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« Reply #9197 on: September 25, 2014, 02:36:43 PM »
There's something specifically weird about the way you guys (americans, #notallamericans) handle race threads and or sensitive subjects like feminism etc though. You all seem to whip yourselves into a feeding frenzy ready to chew up and spit out the first person to say something 'wrong' it's kinda weird, off-putting and nuts (and also why I generally don't participate in these kinda things except for euro boards and specifically local ones). No one ever seems interested in having an honest conversation about these things on gaf.

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« Reply #9198 on: September 25, 2014, 02:44:02 PM »
My theory is it's the remnants of our Puritanical culture. We have a lot of people who just sit around and judge others all day, every day. Doesn't even matter what your religious or political ideology is. Everyone has crafted their own moralistic code that everyone else has to follow (or face their imaginary wrath). I guess it makes people feel better about themselves.





 

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« Reply #9199 on: September 25, 2014, 02:46:14 PM »
There's something specifically weird about the way you guys (americans, #notallamericans) handle race threads and or sensitive subjects like feminism etc though. You all seem to whip yourselves into a feeding frenzy ready to chew up and spit out the first person to say something 'wrong' it's kinda weird, off-putting and nuts (and also why I generally don't participate in these kinda things except for euro boards and specifically local ones). No one ever seems interested in having an honest conversation about these things on gaf.

You'll never get the gold metal in the offended olympics with that attitude mister

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« Reply #9200 on: September 25, 2014, 02:47:28 PM »
It's like Momo is just discovering this thing we call the "internet"
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« Reply #9201 on: September 25, 2014, 02:50:12 PM »
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« Reply #9202 on: September 25, 2014, 02:51:45 PM »
My theory is it's the remnants of our Puritanical culture. We have a lot of people who just sit around and judge others all day, every day. Doesn't even matter what your religious or political ideology is. Everyone has crafted their own moralistic code that everyone else has to follow (or face their imaginary wrath). I guess it makes people feel better about themselves.
I have deep seated reservations towards using the term "puritanical" when describing the U.S. Our national ethos was codified by deists and our identity forged through Evangelical Protestantism. I agree with those last two sentences, but Id argue that they apply to a lot of different societies in a lot of different dimensions.

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« Reply #9203 on: September 25, 2014, 02:52:38 PM »
It's like Momo is just discovering this thing we call the "internet"
Not that we're ever going to have a serious discussion about anything in the GAF bitching thread on the bore, but useless snide comments like these are another part of the problem, everyone tripping over themselves to be the first to make a god awful 'whitty' remark to win face and be one of the coolest cool kids in cooltown.

Perfectly acceptable in the context of this thread tho, so carry on.



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« Reply #9204 on: September 25, 2014, 02:55:41 PM »
It's like someone wrote that in 1994 and sent it into the future  :lawd

I didn't think South Africa was such a johnny come lately to the internet.
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« Reply #9205 on: September 25, 2014, 02:55:45 PM »
There's something specifically weird about the way you guys (americans, #notallamericans) handle race threads and or sensitive subjects like feminism etc though. You all seem to whip yourselves into a feeding frenzy ready to chew up and spit out the first person to say something 'wrong' it's kinda weird, off-putting and nuts (and also why I generally don't participate in these kinda things except for euro boards and specifically local ones). No one ever seems interested in having an honest conversation about these things on gaf.

I think it's easily explained by realizing that conversations just largely continue from previous, similar discussions. If this is your first foray into a "race/gender issues" thread, I think it's easy to come into it with an open mind. But after thread #1,423 on the subject, things start to get repetitive. You're either arguing against the same people making the same arguments, or you're arguing against new people making similar arguments.  Now, for the latter, it's probably a better idea to sit down and engage patiently in good faith. But I think as the broad conversation goes on and on and on, it gets easier to be more sure of your own view and more cynical about differing viewpoints.

Now, I'm not saying shouting down opinions one doesn't agree with is always the most productive course of action. However, I understand why it happens. Now, there's obviously going to be some difference of opinion in the first place about whether someone's stance is indeed wrong at all, but if you sympathize with the progressive stance on an issue and have dealt with the same types of arguments again and again that have been regarded as dubious at best, then one's ability to bite their tongue and engage earnestly and civilly becomes non-existent.

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« Reply #9206 on: September 25, 2014, 02:56:25 PM »
I dunno if it's an american thing or a GAF thing honestly. But yeah, GAF is no place to try and have an actual discussion about almost anything. I mean, they think FFX-2 is the low point of the series. How can you even discuss stuff with people like that?
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« Reply #9208 on: September 25, 2014, 02:59:05 PM »
It's like someone wrote that in 1994 and sent it into the future  :lawd

I didn't think South Africa was such a johnny come lately to the internet.
See at this point I dont even know what you're doing. Why are you getting all snide bro, did I somehow offend you?

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« Reply #9209 on: September 25, 2014, 03:00:09 PM »
Momo is absolutely right. Those threads are always just a waiting game until someone posts something to trigger the outrage machine and then we all just pile on because surely this is the greatest outrage since Hitler.

Not just an American thing though. My Euro-brothers and sisters do it too.

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« Reply #9210 on: September 25, 2014, 03:00:29 PM »
I dunno if it's an american thing or a GAF thing honestly. But yeah, GAF is no place to try and have an actual discussion about almost anything. I mean, they think FFX-2 is the low point of the series. How can you even discuss stuff with people like that?

X-2's story was a pile of shit

the gameplay though  :lawd

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« Reply #9211 on: September 25, 2014, 03:01:53 PM »
The interesting was the Evilore wanted to put an end to the outrage machine in the OT. It's only gotten stronger.  There's always a clique of the same posters in race or gender topics that just shut down any discussion with slick ad hominems.

It seems the moderation team can't even see since its passive aggressive. 

It's just best not to participate in these topics.

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« Reply #9212 on: September 25, 2014, 03:02:12 PM »
However, I understand why it happens. Now, there's obviously going to be some difference of opinion in the first place about whether someone's stance is indeed wrong at all, but if you sympathize with the progressive stance on an issue and have dealt with the same types of arguments again and again that have been regarded as dubious at best, then one's ability to bite their tongue and engage earnestly and civilly becomes non-existent.

I don't generally engage in controversial threads on here or on GAF mainly because these public issues that become forum fodder generally don't allow nuanced discussions. And I'm all about nuance. Life is nuance.

That being said there is a big difference between nuance and dealing with closet bigots, and nutcases who want to preserve their right to say incredibly dumb or insensitive things without being called out on it.

The problem with GAF is that leeway is only given in one direction. And then enforced by banning somebody. I prefer a forum to police itself. That is impossible on a forum the size of GAF. Which is one of the problems in general. You can't really have a good "serious" discussion when hundreds of people can participate in it and derail it or troll it. You'd need much more effective forum tools to handle that. Like a legit upvoting and downvoting system. Not to mention the quality of discussion is always dependent on the quality of the people posting. Garbage in. Garbage Out.   

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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9213 on: September 25, 2014, 03:03:21 PM »
Destiny is mundane as hell but I still play it lul.

Has some of the most boring instances I've ever played. Bosses are just bullet sponges with no character.

This crap makes WoW look innovative as all hell since I'm flashing back to my instance/heroic/raid runs and how much actual interactivity with the boss one had to do other than just survive adds + shoot.

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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9214 on: September 25, 2014, 03:07:06 PM »
It's like someone wrote that in 1994 and sent it into the future  :lawd

I didn't think South Africa was such a johnny come lately to the internet.
See at this point I dont even know what you're doing. Why are you getting all snide bro, did I somehow offend you?
I'm just messing with you, but a discussion about why a sub-forum of a videogame forum can't discuss serious issues is pretty  :picard
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« Reply #9215 on: September 25, 2014, 03:07:54 PM »
However, I understand why it happens. Now, there's obviously going to be some difference of opinion in the first place about whether someone's stance is indeed wrong at all, but if you sympathize with the progressive stance on an issue and have dealt with the same types of arguments again and again that have been regarded as dubious at best, then one's ability to bite their tongue and engage earnestly and civilly becomes non-existent.

I don't generally engage in controversial threads on here or on GAF mainly because these public issues that become forum fodder generally don't allow nuanced discussions. And I'm all about nuance. Life is nuance.

That being said there is a big difference between nuance and dealing with closet bigots, and nutcases who want to preserve their right to say incredibly dumb or insensitive things without being called out on it.

Right. Going along with this, I just think the lines just start to blend together over time when discussing similar topics between distinguishing between the following assessments: person is using dubious logic to mask being a bigot, person is a little naive and/or ignorant about the topic but otherwise means well, person is raising valid, nuanced views that just happen to skew a little close to unpopular viewpoints by those dominating the discussion. When people have dealt too much with the former, I think it gets harder to give the latter categories the benefit of the doubt.

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« Reply #9216 on: September 25, 2014, 03:11:56 PM »
Destiny is so bad that i'm almost willing to tolerate Borderlands attempts at humor for a third time.

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« Reply #9217 on: September 25, 2014, 03:15:38 PM »
However, I understand why it happens. Now, there's obviously going to be some difference of opinion in the first place about whether someone's stance is indeed wrong at all, but if you sympathize with the progressive stance on an issue and have dealt with the same types of arguments again and again that have been regarded as dubious at best, then one's ability to bite their tongue and engage earnestly and civilly becomes non-existent.

I don't generally engage in controversial threads on here or on GAF mainly because these public issues that become forum fodder generally don't allow nuanced discussions. And I'm all about nuance. Life is nuance.

That being said there is a big difference between nuance and dealing with closet bigots, and nutcases who want to preserve their right to say incredibly dumb or insensitive things without being called out on it.

Right. Going along with this, I just think the lines just start to blend together over time when discussing similar topics between distinguishing between the following assessments: person is using dubious logic to mask being a bigot, person is a little naive and/or ignorant about the topic but otherwise means well, person is raising valid, nuanced views that just happen to skew a little close to unpopular viewpoints by those dominating the discussion. When people have dealt too much with the former, I think it gets harder to give the latter categories the benefit of the doubt.

I met skidmark years ago on GAF and my interaction with him was basically blasting him and being a dick because he was posting something and I thought he had closet intellectually dishonest positions like a lot of people do on GAF. What I found out later was that he was simply from Sweden and didn't really have the usual American perspective on the subject. I was completely in the wrong in this example and we later become friends and joke about it now.

The nature of the internet is that its difficult to tell who is being a troll, who is being naive, who is uninformed, who is unaware, who is from another culture, who is just a jerk, and who is playing a character, etc.

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« Reply #9218 on: September 25, 2014, 03:20:28 PM »
It's like someone wrote that in 1994 and sent it into the future  :lawd

I didn't think South Africa was such a johnny come lately to the internet.
See at this point I dont even know what you're doing. Why are you getting all snide bro, did I somehow offend you?
I'm just messing with you, but a discussion about why a sub-forum of a videogame forum can't discuss serious issues is pretty  :picard
Oh yeah, I absolutely agree. This is a waste of time conversation for sure, consider this post an admission that I didnt have any idea where to take that for a counter troll to make it interesting, cant fuck with anything 1994, that was the best year ever :lawd

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« Reply #9219 on: September 25, 2014, 03:21:58 PM »
However, I understand why it happens. Now, there's obviously going to be some difference of opinion in the first place about whether someone's stance is indeed wrong at all, but if you sympathize with the progressive stance on an issue and have dealt with the same types of arguments again and again that have been regarded as dubious at best, then one's ability to bite their tongue and engage earnestly and civilly becomes non-existent.

I don't generally engage in controversial threads on here or on GAF mainly because these public issues that become forum fodder generally don't allow nuanced discussions. And I'm all about nuance. Life is nuance.

That being said there is a big difference between nuance and dealing with closet bigots, and nutcases who want to preserve their right to say incredibly dumb or insensitive things without being called out on it.

Right. Going along with this, I just think the lines just start to blend together over time when discussing similar topics between distinguishing between the following assessments: person is using dubious logic to mask being a bigot, person is a little naive and/or ignorant about the topic but otherwise means well, person is raising valid, nuanced views that just happen to skew a little close to unpopular viewpoints by those dominating the discussion. When people have dealt too much with the former, I think it gets harder to give the latter categories the benefit of the doubt.

I met skidmark years ago on GAF and my interaction with him was basically blasting him and being a dick because he was posting something and I thought he had closet intellectually dishonest positions like a lot of people do on GAF. What I found out later was that he was simply from Sweden and didn't really have the usual American perspective on the subject. I was completely in the wrong in this example and we later become friends and joke about it now.

The nature of the internet is that its difficult to tell who is being a troll, who is being naive, who is uninformed, who is unaware, who is from another culture, who is just a jerk, and who is playing a character, etc.

that's a really sweet story
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« Reply #9220 on: September 25, 2014, 03:25:26 PM »
I met skidmark years ago on GAF and my interaction with him was basically blasting him and being a dick because he was posting something and I thought he had closet intellectually dishonest positions like a lot of people do on GAF. What I found out later was that he was simply from Sweden and didn't really have the usual American perspective on the subject. I was completely in the wrong in this example and we later become friends and joke about it now.

The nature of the internet is that its difficult to tell who is being a troll, who is being naive, who is uninformed, who is unaware, who is from another culture, who is just a jerk, and who is playing a character, etc.

That is a cool story and it makes me hopeful that Americans could possibly make more sense if one talked to them in person.

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« Reply #9221 on: September 25, 2014, 03:29:18 PM »
However, I understand why it happens. Now, there's obviously going to be some difference of opinion in the first place about whether someone's stance is indeed wrong at all, but if you sympathize with the progressive stance on an issue and have dealt with the same types of arguments again and again that have been regarded as dubious at best, then one's ability to bite their tongue and engage earnestly and civilly becomes non-existent.

I don't generally engage in controversial threads on here or on GAF mainly because these public issues that become forum fodder generally don't allow nuanced discussions. And I'm all about nuance. Life is nuance.

That being said there is a big difference between nuance and dealing with closet bigots, and nutcases who want to preserve their right to say incredibly dumb or insensitive things without being called out on it.

Right. Going along with this, I just think the lines just start to blend together over time when discussing similar topics between distinguishing between the following assessments: person is using dubious logic to mask being a bigot, person is a little naive and/or ignorant about the topic but otherwise means well, person is raising valid, nuanced views that just happen to skew a little close to unpopular viewpoints by those dominating the discussion. When people have dealt too much with the former, I think it gets harder to give the latter categories the benefit of the doubt.
But then that's sorta the problem. Everyone is so hyper sensitive to bigots that many get called bigots just because they don't advocate popular views. For example, I was accused of being racist because I pointed out in the Ferguson thread that it's not cool to assume all white people are racists. Or look at that Emma Watson thread. I think there's a good discussion to be had about why so many women don't consider themselves feminists, a real conversation beyond the whole "Well they just don't understand it." point. But no one's gonna talk about that because they don't want to seem a misogynist because they think feminism has a branding problem. Hell, look at Squiddy, even safe, sacchrine, white knight Squiddy got pretty damn hammered because he didn't agree with some article.  And the thing about it is that it just perpetuates itself because that's what people think people want to hear. I was only partially joking about the FFX-2 point. Some really do think it's the worst in the series just because it's fan-servicy or because you play "dress up" or some character designs are bad because boobs. For a group of euphoric fedora wearers they are starting to sound a lot like the religious folk I grew up with.
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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9222 on: September 25, 2014, 03:33:29 PM »
Feminism has a branding problem like "liberal" does.

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« Reply #9223 on: September 25, 2014, 03:35:15 PM »
Feminism has a branding problem like "liberal" does.
You'll lose the respect of certain white males when you use it to describe yourself?
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« Reply #9224 on: September 25, 2014, 03:36:07 PM »
Feminism has a branding problem like "liberal" does.
Yes. Which means a big one.
Say what you want about conservatives, they get branding. Liberals could seriously stand to learn from them.
But everyone's too caught up in how they shouldn't have to to actually do anything about it.
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« Reply #9225 on: September 25, 2014, 03:38:31 PM »
Feminism has a branding problem like "liberal" does.
You'll lose the respect of certain white males when you use it to describe yourself?

I've yet to encounter that phenomena, and I actually call myself feminist outside of the internet.

The internet represents an absurdity in its exaggeration of claims and responses, with very little bearing on how humans actually behave in real life - away from the CRT screen brightly lit up in their basement.
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« Reply #9226 on: September 25, 2014, 03:39:33 PM »
They need to rebrand "feminism" so it doesn't include women, and "liberal" so it doesn't include minorities.  And then people will love it again!
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« Reply #9227 on: September 25, 2014, 03:39:34 PM »
Steve I don't really have any specific counter arguments to make RE: what you posted, there is a lot I agree with there regarding why it happens and I appreciate reading your viewpoint on it as my frame of reference is completely different. I don't think it's a desirable trait, even on the 'right' side of things. It stifles any sort of honest conversation. And we'd all probably be better served if the people that find themselves making the same arguments over and over exit those threads and give other voices a chance to have a conversation with each other.

I dont feel I need to actually make any specific counter arguments  to anything you said because there arent sides here, just people with opinions sharing ideas over tea(apple and cinnamon!). I do however wanted to make this post to acknowledge that I read your post and assure you it wasnt in vain or a waste of time (well any more of a waste of time than posting in here is anyway! lol)

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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9228 on: September 25, 2014, 03:40:59 PM »
They need to rebrand "feminism" so it doesn't include women, and "liberal" so it doesn't include minorities.  And then people will love it again!
See?
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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9229 on: September 25, 2014, 03:44:32 PM »
Saying conservatives "get" branding isn't really saying anything at all.  We're the brand of the most powerful majority in the country!  Wow, someone get this man a job.
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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9230 on: September 25, 2014, 03:45:57 PM »
Feminism has a branding problem like "liberal" does.
Yes. Which means a big one.
Say what you want about conservatives, they get branding. Liberals could seriously stand to learn from them.
But everyone's too caught up in how they shouldn't have to to actually do anything about it.

I don't exactly know what you think feminists should do. They were going to hit a roadblock at some point given that it behooves a lot of people to keep full equality from being a reality for the gender that's long been subjugated. The worst suggestions are renaming it so men feel better about it. It's the height of just not getting the point.

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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9231 on: September 25, 2014, 03:46:50 PM »
Saying conservatives "get" branding isn't really saying anything at all.  We're the brand of the most powerful majority in the country!  Wow, someone get this man a job.
Yeah I'm sure they get all those people to vote against their own economic interests simply because they're the most powerful majority.
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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9232 on: September 25, 2014, 03:49:27 PM »
Feminism has a branding problem like "liberal" does.
Yes. Which means a big one.
Say what you want about conservatives, they get branding. Liberals could seriously stand to learn from them.
But everyone's too caught up in how they shouldn't have to to actually do anything about it.

I don't exactly know what you think feminists should do. They were going to hit a roadblock at some point given that it behooves a lot of people to keep full equality from being a reality for the gender that's long been subjugated. The worst suggestions are renaming it so men feel better about it. It's the height of just not getting the point.
Emma Watson's He For She thing is a damned brilliant move in the right direction yet some feminists don't like it. The reason that it's brilliant is that it makes it everyone's problem and makes people allies instead of antagonists and that's what it needs to be to move it forward.  And no, don't change the damned name. Though, tumblr...
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« Reply #9233 on: September 25, 2014, 03:50:59 PM »
Steve I don't really have any specific counter arguments to make RE: what you posted, there is a lot I agree with there regarding why it happens and I appreciate reading your viewpoint on it as my frame of reference is completely different. I don't think it's a desirable trait, even on the 'right' side of things. It stifles any sort of honest conversation. And we'd all probably be better served if the people that find themselves making the same arguments over and over exit those threads and give other voices a chance to have a conversation with each other.

I dont feel I need to actually make any specific counter arguments  to anything you said because there arent sides here, just people with opinions sharing ideas over tea(apple and cinnamon!). I do however wanted to make this post to acknowledge that I read your post and assure you it wasnt in vain or a waste of time (well any more of a waste of time than posting in here is anyway! lol)

I'm disappointed. Where's my tl;dr reaction gif!?

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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9234 on: September 25, 2014, 03:51:59 PM »
Steve I don't really have any specific counter arguments to make RE: what you posted, there is a lot I agree with there regarding why it happens and I appreciate reading your viewpoint on it as my frame of reference is completely different. I don't think it's a desirable trait, even on the 'right' side of things. It stifles any sort of honest conversation. And we'd all probably be better served if the people that find themselves making the same arguments over and over exit those threads and give other voices a chance to have a conversation with each other.

I dont feel I need to actually make any specific counter arguments  to anything you said because there arent sides here, just people with opinions sharing ideas over tea(apple and cinnamon!). I do however wanted to make this post to acknowledge that I read your post and assure you it wasnt in vain or a waste of time (well any more of a waste of time than posting in here is anyway! lol)

I'm disappointed. Where's my tl;dr reaction gif!?

Don't have a GIF but if it makes you feel better I still didn't read your post

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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9235 on: September 25, 2014, 03:52:14 PM »
Saying conservatives "get" branding isn't really saying anything at all.  We're the brand of the most powerful majority in the country!  Wow, someone get this man a job.
Yeah I'm sure they get all those people to vote against their own economic interests simply because they're the most powerful majority.

They vote against their interests because people in America tend to vote demographically. Therefore a large chunk of white christian people (who also happen to be the largest group of people) vote in a similar manner. It's not so easy as "rebranding" without fundamentally altering those demographic patterns. Running coke style commercial ain't gonna change that. Those are slow generational changes that take much time and depend on how population patterns and class patterns change.

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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9236 on: September 25, 2014, 03:53:35 PM »
Eugene Ney Terre'Blanche. Now there was a guy who understood marketing himself. At every opportunity he'd be on horseback waving his nazi flags talking about a separatist afrikaner state, with the oranje as a currency. He marketed himself from thousands of followers all the way down to a couple of hundred and ended up going to jail for beating a black guy and later getting killed for not paying a black guy. From my perspective, these guys will implode by themselves if you give them enough rope and ignore them just enough to rustle them.

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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9237 on: September 25, 2014, 03:53:51 PM »
Emma Watson's He For She thing is a damned brilliant move in the right direction yet some feminists don't like it. The reason that it's brilliant is that it makes it everyone's problem and makes people allies instead of antagonists and that's what it needs to be to move it forward.  And no, don't change the damned name. Though, tumblr...

Well feminism isn't a thing where everyone agrees on the next step which is both its strength and its weakness. It's not a movement where we all usher in behind some messiah and run with it. You have intersectionality, different issues, local movements, regional movements, international movements, people doing grassroots efforts in countries just to get girls an education. Just because some assholes think "feminism" is about bitchy women who actually want female superiority and they're the loudest on the internet doesn't mean much. And yes a lot of women have trepidation in calling themselves feminist but you look at who they're polling and it's pretty much the same age range and demographics. They don't think it's for them because they haven't hit maternity leave yet and somehow skirted by any workplace harassment. But then they hit that glass ceiling and it's suddenly apparent they aren't being elevated to positions, getting raises or taken seriously. Guess which movement they start identifying with then...

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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9238 on: September 25, 2014, 03:53:57 PM »
Saying conservatives "get" branding isn't really saying anything at all.  We're the brand of the most powerful majority in the country!  Wow, someone get this man a job.
Yeah I'm sure they get all those people to vote against their own economic interests simply because they're the most powerful majority.

They vote against their interests because people in America tend to vote demographically. Therefore a large chunk of white christian people (who also happen to be the largest group of people) vote in a similar manner. It's not so easy as "rebranding" without fundamentally altering those demographic patterns. Running coke style commercial ain't gonna change that. Those are slow generational changes that take much time and depend on how population patterns and class patterns change.
You see slow generational changes. I see clever messaging and branding and playing to your demographics.
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Re: Nexus of hardcore salt, enthusiast shitposting, & videogame industry un-persons
« Reply #9239 on: September 25, 2014, 03:54:48 PM »
Saying conservatives "get" branding isn't really saying anything at all.  We're the brand of the most powerful majority in the country!  Wow, someone get this man a job.
Yeah I'm sure they get all those people to vote against their own economic interests simply because they're the most powerful majority.

They vote against their interests because people in America tend to vote demographically. Therefore a large chunk of white christian people (who also happen to be the largest group of people) vote in a similar manner. It's not so easy as "rebranding" without fundamentally altering those demographic patterns. Running commercial ain't gonna change that. Those are slow generational changes that take much take and depend on how population patterns and class patterns change.
Yup.  Being white and Christian (and male) is a stronger pull than economics.  And one party represents those people, and one doesn't really.  Yet one is a branding genius for holding the tenuous coalition of a majority monoculture together.
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