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Mr. Nobody

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=910427

truly one of the most pathetic showings in quite some time. I tip my fedora.

Shameful shit.

StealthFan

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Stealthfan you around?

Do you know why Downtown Abbey (forgot his previous nickname) was demodded?

i think he crashed the forums trying to fuck with fyad

check here (terrible site) http://somethingsensitive.com/index.php?topic=5639.0
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=910427

truly one of the most pathetic showings in quite some time. I tip my fedora.
This is a thread that should be posted on the misc, the reactions there would be priceless.

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Stealthfan you around?

Do you know why Downtown Abbey (forgot his previous nickname) was demodded?

i think he crashed the forums trying to fuck with fyad

check here (terrible site) http://somethingsensitive.com/index.php?topic=5639.0

thank you

ZephyrFate

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God, the Sarah silverman thread is ridiculous. I don't even know where to start.

benjipwns

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GAF in 2014 vs GAF only a few years ago hasn't just changed in tone and demeanor; it's an almost entirely new group of people. I have no idea where to begin with a lot of these new fucks.

The Sarah Silverman thread with the same OP but with 2007 GAF would have been god-tier. An absolute classic read.
I hope this doesn't come across as too glib, but what you've described - "hearing what they want to hear, not fully understanding, or simply not caring about the context of a situation and work on their gut reaction" - is how I'd characterize many of the posts that fall into the broad category of "posts complaining that other people have been offended by something that I think shouldn't have offended them."

I also would qualify that comment you made about the necessity of logic in offense being appropriate. In the abstract, I agree with that. But in the particular, I'd just point out that two different people can interpret the same, say, advertisement differently depending upon what they are bringing to it. For instance, a cisgender person might view that advertisement and view the joke about a sex change as incidental to the mockery of the wage gap as ridiculous; a trans person might also recognize that the joke is incidental to the larger construction of the advertisement while still objecting to it on the basis of, say, feeling hurt by it or feeling that it trivializes their experiences by portraying it in a somewhat frivolous manner or simply the fact that it uses one of the common trope of anti-trans rhetoric (e.g. that trans-men transition in order to gain masculine privilege). This doesn't make them illogical; it means that they're bringing a different set of knowledge and experiences to the conversation, which means that something that reads as innocuous to one reader of a given text will read as offensive to someone else.



I think you'll find that, like most minority communities on GAF, members of TransGAF feel that GAF as a community is hit-or-miss, at best, on their issues. I've felt that way for years as a gay person (witness any thread about the appropriateness of "gay" as an insult to see how many people don't get it - "You just don't get context; it doesn't mean gay like that!"). In this thread I'd submit that the failure to not ask, "Does this offend me?" but rather, "Why might this offend someone who is trans?" is the heart of the problem. In an ideally trans-friendly community, a thread about how trans people find something problematic would have many more posters attempting to step outside of their perspective and consider why someone else might find something offensive, rather than attempting to explain why someone else's emotional reaction is objectively wrong [and therefore not worthy of respect or consideration].

And it's not that hard. Several posters made an attempt to do it; I thought Empty's was one of the better ones. It isn't even that you have to ultimately agree that it is offensive, in terms of feeling offense towards it yourself. I certainly don't. I don't find it personally offensive, because it doesn't have any relevance to my experiences and doesn't touch on an issue that has emotional resonance for me. I can't really say that I have particularly strong feelings for it at all. It's not the dissent that bothers me; it's the condescension, the apparent unwillingness to consider that there are other (perfectly valid) ways of interpreting the same thing.

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Himu

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God, the Sarah silverman thread is ridiculous. I don't even know where to start.

Want your thoughts on it bb
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ZephyrFate

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God, the Sarah silverman thread is ridiculous. I don't even know where to start.

Want your thoughts on it bb
Mostly that it's Sarah Silverman, who does toe-the-line offensive humor that I for one don't usually find funny but can understand why others would. The other side is that trans people, nor sex reassignment surgery, are the punchline of the joke -- but rather the insipid and flimsy reasoning we use to buoy the gender wage gap.

I get the "look at it from a trans* person's point of view" perspective, and I often adopt that in certain areas when it comes to mocking gay men or pointed criticisms of gay male life. But I also realize, much like any other group of people with distinguishing characteristics, that sometimes light-hearted and non-serious jokes at the expense of others happen. I laugh at Michael Sam jokes that get news articles written about them, because most of the time they're not even half as bad as the real homophobic shit people actually say to pass off as a "joke".

The Sarah Silverman thing is the kind of joke that sparingly includes an aspect of trans* life and culture, and in doing so comes off as so innocuous that I don't understand the uproar. It's not even as offensive as her usual shit is. Dax and others are so hellbent on reminding us the seriousness of sex reassignment surgery that it derails the discussion and actually undermines the real issue of the joke, which actually hurts Sarah's cause by politicizing it in some almost-non-sequitur fashion.
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Himu

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Agreed 100%. I just don't get the whole offended because of an innocent joke thing. In this case, no one in particular was the butt of the joke, so the offense comes off as manufactured and is insulting. Plus, I love Sarah Silverman and hope she's in the new Ghostbusters movie along with Tina Fey and Rosario Dawson.
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ZephyrFate

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TBH it's a lot like a joke about a straight guy doing a bunch of gay stuff to win a girl over. It doesn't trivialize a gay man's issues, but highlights the straight guy's own insecurities more.

benjipwns

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If anything Sarah should be criticizing them as male-to-female transgenders are still beneficiaries of the patriarchy as they get to choose their gender unlike REAL WOMYN!

http://womenofthepatriarchy.wordpress.com/2013/01/05/trans-women-are-women-of-the-patriarchy/

Oblivion

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who the fuck is amanda bynes?
She wanted Drake to murder her vagina.

Benji, if I had a GAF account I'd be going so hard at your weak ass macroecon in PoliGAF right now.
You'd be as stuck in the mud as the rest of them. I only broke out half an argument for pigeon so I could do a bunch of Metaphoreus jokes.

Arguing with religious fanatics whose grasp of history starts in like 1988 and can't keep their own arguments straight because they don't even understand them or use words properly isn't exactly a good use of even my own worthless time.

Need to find someplace with arguments I can't predict three posts ahead to annoy.

For what it's worth, I always loved you, benji.

Kara

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France fucking ignored the thing, even the communists.

Eurocommunists are actually allergic to programmes and policy. It's really sad but true. :tocry

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benjipwns

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For what it's worth, I always loved you, benji.
I don't think of you as separate either because you're here. I was confining myself to people walrus mentioned.

I didn't respond to your later posts because I don't like to dredge arguments back up a page or day past. Regarding Kansas/Brownback, I consider it the same I do Obama/economy or ObamaCare/premiums, sample sizes, data lag, actual power over variables, etc. Same thing for Jerry Brown in California. I mean you can frame it this way: http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevemoore/2014/09/27/a-taxing-tale-of-two-states/ or you can frame it this way: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/05/16/3438587/kansas-growth-projections/ or more importantly probably you can examine it this way: http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article673701.html

France fucking ignored the thing, even the communists.

Eurocommunists are actually allergic to programmes and policy. It's really sad but true. :tocry

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Yeah, but FRENCH Communists: http://www.pcf.fr/18541

Phoenix Dark

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PoliGAF can't even admit Obama's second term has been trash. "Bubu Obamacare is working." Ok, what else. Dude ruined it all by going after guns and failing with that half assed shit (banning automatic weapons will never happen again and doesn't impact gun crime). At least we aren't knee deep in a ground war but jeez these have been bad years for the homie. And most folks have clearly tuned him out.

But apparently that real talk is trolling now.
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It's your own fault for posting in Poligaf and expecting rational conversation.

StealthFan

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PoliGAF can't even admit Obama's second term has been trash. "Bubu Obamacare is working." Ok, what else. Dude ruined it all by going after guns and failing with that half assed shit (banning automatic weapons will never happen again and doesn't impact gun crime). At least we aren't knee deep in a ground war but jeez these have been bad years for the homie. And most folks have clearly tuned him out.

But apparently that real talk is trolling now.

You know cacs need to defend the honorable negro no matter what, breh.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=133869641#post133869641
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What matters is the following:

    retail console game sales correlate heavily with metacritic scores
    to maximize sales, decision makers only fund games that have a high chance of scoring well
    in order to score well, games must cater to the tastes of a particular niche group
    to help ensure this, games are continually evaluated by critics during the design and production, so much so you can say critics design aaa console games
    as such, retail console game games that do not cater to that group will never get made

Sometimes a game like driveclub or Nier will slip through, but in today's world, it is pretty rare.

 :dead

This Sony fanboy just compared the most by the book Sony exclusive this millenium to Nier.

Yulwei

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Driveclub looks like the type of game I'd play for 5 minutes, go "wow that's pretty" and then never touch again. Racing is the most boring genre. I played some Forza 5 and don't feel the need to touch another racing game for the next decade.

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it's a kiosk demo game that was supposed to be in the walmarts and gamestops of the world on release day.
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Eel O'Brian

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Driveclub looks like the type of game I'd play for 5 minutes, go "wow that's pretty" and then never touch again. Racing is the most boring genre. I played some Forza 5 and don't feel the need to touch another racing game for the next decade.

Unless there are spectacular explosions and crashes, I agree

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This page is full of truth. :stahp
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Driveclub looks like the type of game I'd play for 5 minutes, go "wow that's pretty" and then never touch again. Racing is the most boring genre. I played some Forza 5 and don't feel the need to touch another racing game for the next decade.

Arcade racers tho :lawd

Kara

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Yeah, but FRENCH Communists: http://www.pcf.fr/18541

I guess it's not entirely fair to call the PCF Eurocommunist since it is technically multi-tendency but it's been pretty Eurocommunist since Robert Hue ran it into the ground and tankies only comprise ~10% of the party membership now.

Like 12 tankies and their mom left the PCF and started the PRCF. LOOK HOW MUCH MORE DETAILED THEIR PROGRAMME IS.

http://www.initiative-communiste.fr/programme-candidat-2012/

Read Ayn Rand Enver Hoxha.

e:  :lol This looks like something out of a French trashing article in The Economist.

http://www.pcf.fr/sites/default/files/imagecache/image/il-8-francemond.jpg
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Rahxephon91

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=133869641#post133869641
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What matters is the following:

    retail console game sales correlate heavily with metacritic scores
    to maximize sales, decision makers only fund games that have a high chance of scoring well
    in order to score well, games must cater to the tastes of a particular niche group
    to help ensure this, games are continually evaluated by critics during the design and production, so much so you can say critics design aaa console games
    as such, retail console game games that do not cater to that group will never get made

Sometimes a game like driveclub or Nier will slip through, but in today's world, it is pretty rare.

 :dead

This Sony fanboy just compared the most by the book Sony exclusive this millenium to Nier.
Both have annoying fans so it's an apt comparison.

Cascade

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=133869641#post133869641
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What matters is the following:

    retail console game sales correlate heavily with metacritic scores
    to maximize sales, decision makers only fund games that have a high chance of scoring well
    in order to score well, games must cater to the tastes of a particular niche group
    to help ensure this, games are continually evaluated by critics during the design and production, so much so you can say critics design aaa console games
    as such, retail console game games that do not cater to that group will never get made

Sometimes a game like driveclub or Nier will slip through, but in today's world, it is pretty rare.

 :dead

This Sony fanboy just compared the most by the book Sony exclusive this millenium to Nier.
Both have annoying fans so it's an apt comparison.
True but Driveclub could have been been created by an AI that was coded using excel whilst with Nier you can at least be certain that there was some semblance of human creativity.

StealthFan

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Nier was alright. Fuck replaying the same game a billion times for endings tho. Also the game can be comically depressing, like how you find the kids mom dead with her lover, and they're all like "at least she died with someone she loved" and then you discover he was playboy that lead bitches on.
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That pussy nicca Dennis fled the second his ban was up :pacspit
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don't worry stealthfan, i'm staying right here.  :heartbeat
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Yeah, but FRENCH Communists: http://www.pcf.fr/18541

I guess it's not entirely fair to call the PCF Eurocommunist since it is technically multi-tendency but it's been pretty Eurocommunist since Robert Hue ran it into the ground and tankies only comprise ~10% of the party membership now. (Image removed from quote.)

Like 12 tankies and their mom left the PCF and started the PRCF. LOOK HOW MUCH MORE DETAILED THEIR PROGRAMME IS.

http://www.initiative-communiste.fr/programme-candidat-2012/



That party program sounds pretty much like like a communist party program from any Western European country.

Kara

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I didn't bother to read it, but thanks.

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That pussy nicca Dennis fled the second his ban was up :pacspit
I'm sure it won't be long before you have him back for good.

StealthFan

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That pussy nicca Dennis fled the second his ban was up :pacspit
I'm sure it won't be long before you have him back for good.
:goty
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StealthFan

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I hate when niccas just show up because they're banned. Except G-Fex, because LOLNO1CURR he left. Awful taco.
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jakefromstatefarm

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speculawyer
Really? We're dapping speculawyer now? The guy who is only ever able to bring surface level analysis to discussion? The guy who caped for Bill Maher's racialized rhetoric last week? The guy with the sense of humor analogous to a 60 year old white woman? Speculawyer is maybe the biggest lame on GAF and is one of its champions for "Liberalism, but as long as it falls under the purview of American hegemony."

nudemacusers

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That pussy nicca Dennis fled the second his ban was up :pacspit
I'm sure it won't be long before you have him back for good.
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nudemacusers

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come to think of it, I don't think i've ever had a woman approach me directly at a bar :tocry
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Kara

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come to think of it, I don't think i've ever had a woman approach me directly at a bar :tocry

#struggle

Phoenix Dark

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come to think of it, I don't think i've ever had a woman approach me directly at a bar :tocry

Wear your wedding ring.
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zepblackstar

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damn
Destiny fans getting up there with nintendo fans....
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=133891301&postcount=26

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Are you a level 30? No? Did you beat Vault of Glass or even attempt it? You didn't even come close to beating the game, that's why it's unfinished

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=910592

What a taco. Not because he doesn't like beer, plenty don't. But because he's so self conscious about his masculinity that he has to ask the beacon of rugged, chain smoking, bearded alpha males.

Drink what you want, just don't be a bitch about it.

Also you haven't lived till you ordered scotch at a somewhat classy bar and a woman comes up to you and asks if she can buy you another :lawd
But don't wear vidya game shirts brehs
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is speculawyer the wannabe oil baron?

zepblackstar

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is speculawyer the wannabe oil baron?
Elon Musk's luggage boy

Phoenix Dark

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TBH it's a lot like a joke about a straight guy doing a bunch of gay stuff to win a girl over. It doesn't trivialize a gay man's issues, but highlights the straight guy's own insecurities more.

Considering the joke is aimed at an unfair social structure and not some personal issue of joke's main character, I don't think that's a good example. A better one would be a joke involving a black person wearing whiteface to get a job he or she was previously turned down for. And of course, plenty of jokes have been made about that issue without incident.

Bringing up suicide numbers and unemployment rates just highlights how hellbent some people are on not getting the joke, playing the victim card, and ultimately looking like a stick in the mud. Good comedy has very few limitations. And Dax looks even worse with her "I can't laugh because the joke (allegedly) references something about me." I'd be very curious to see what type of comedy she enjoys, if any.
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Phoenix Dark

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you probably heard wrong.

She has had some good moments but overall she's not that funny. And after seeing her nude it killed my "dirty sex with Sarah Silverman calling me racial epithets" fantasies.

:fbm
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Shadow Mod

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damn
Destiny fans getting up there with nintendo fans....
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=133891301&postcount=26

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Are you a level 30? No? Did you beat Vault of Glass or even attempt it? You didn't even come close to beating the game, that's why it's unfinished

Destiny fans are so defensive over probably the most repetitive braindead game I've played in ages. The other night I was leveling my other toon and just asked myself what I was doing, shut the game off and watched a Nature Show instead.

Oblivion

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For what it's worth, I always loved you, benji.
I don't think of you as separate either because you're here. I was confining myself to people walrus mentioned.

I didn't respond to your later posts because I don't like to dredge arguments back up a page or day past. Regarding Kansas/Brownback, I consider it the same I do Obama/economy or ObamaCare/premiums, sample sizes, data lag, actual power over variables, etc. Same thing for Jerry Brown in California. I mean you can frame it this way: http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevemoore/2014/09/27/a-taxing-tale-of-two-states/ or you can frame it this way: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/05/16/3438587/kansas-growth-projections/ or more importantly probably you can examine it this way: http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article673701.html


You didn't actually have to respond to that, lol.

I think we can both agree that politics is for fegs.

Kara

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I'm wearing a Shinra shirt right now, no shame in my game.

Saudi repping an evil energy company.


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Shadow Mod

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That perspective when the further boob or ass cheek is bigger.

 :lol

I am playing Bayonetta 2 right now for work and let me tell you, I have never been more ashamed to be playing a video game in my life. The thing is just...like what a 14 year old boy who "totally saw Ms. Morgenstern's boobies" would draw up in the margins of his notepad.

nudemacusers

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I am playing Bayonetta 2 right now for work and let me tell you, I have never been more ashamed to be playing a video game in my life. The thing is just...like what a 14 year old boy who "totally saw Ms. Morgenstern's boobies" would draw up in the margins of his notepad.
check out rumble roses sometime. I just fucked with the 360 demo for about 10 minutes for a laugh (really) and I'm pretty sure I irradiated my entire neighborhood in shame.

but yeah, I messed with the demo for the first bayo and it was ok, dweeby fanservice cutscenes aside, but when she got more naked to do special moves i was like :holeup
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zepblackstar

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That perspective when the further boob or ass cheek is bigger.

 :lol

bayonetta is a PAWG.

nudemacusers

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I think it's good she has sideass vents. don't want them getting all damp and shit in the middle of battle.
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nintenyearolds now using bayonetta in their obsessive hyperbole shitposting  :goty2

I am playing Bayonetta 2 right now for work and let me tell you, I have never been more ashamed to be playing a video game in my life. The thing is just...like what a 14 year old boy who "totally saw Ms. Morgenstern's boobies" would draw up in the margins of his notepad.
check out rumble roses sometime. I just fucked with the 360 demo for about 10 minutes for a laugh (really) and I'm pretty sure I irradiated my entire neighborhood in shame.

but yeah, I messed with the demo for the first bayo and it was ok, dweeby fanservice cutscenes aside, but when she got more naked to do special moves i was like :holeup

I remember that one. I never touched it, but I can imagine. This shit is embarassing. Like, the wife is starting to get that look in her eyes like "I coulda married a lumberjack and never had to put up with this shit."


nudemacusers

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you could pose your fighters in various settings and pan around them  :lol


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=910667

trashgaf out in full force today.
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Oblivion

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That perspective when the further boob or ass cheek is bigger.

 :lol

bayonetta is a PAWG.

No, that's just cause her ridiculously high heals accentuate her buttocks. In reality she doesn't really have much junk in the trunk.  :'(

nudemacusers

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i wonder if she has in-universe ass implants  :ohhh
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