Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest!

[Himu]

I don't mean to sound stupid or racist or offend anyone by asking this. But what do these people really think they can accomplish when others of like skin continue to exhibit behaviour that only goes to reinforce the negativity? 

Because the police are trying to stamp out their rights. We always live every day knowing about stereotypes and the negatives that black people do. It isn't relevant at all. The police don't want them to be united or even to have a single peaceful protest. They told them to get out the streets at 12 am as if this were a third world country or dictatorship. They continuously take away all human rights because...some people do bad things? People will always do bad things, and if you let them strip your rights away for no reason, and treat you like a child, then you're a coward. No one with sense would take this. I don't even understand your premise.  Basically, it's something worth fighting for.

[seagrams hotsauce]

I'm not saying that I agree with what the officer did, but none of us really know what it's like to be in a situation like that. No amount of training can help curb our natural instinct to survive and the fact that we don't have more shootings is a miracle when you think of how violent we've gotten as a society.

What? He shot an unarmed, fleeing dude, then shot him a few more times after he hit the ground. I guess that your theory works if his 'natural instinct to survive' is to just kill any black people he sees, just in case, but otherwise there's nothing about his actions that suggests they were tantamount to his survival.

[etiolate]

I don't think anything can salvaged from this. No message by the protesters. No act by authorities. It's just fucked up beyond consolation.

[Himu]

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

Rev. Peterson's position seems to be that:
Black person posts picture holding a gun = thug
White person posts picture holding a gun = patriot

But that's just because blacks are always given the benefit of the doubt unlike whites.

I think even Malzberg is like "uhhh what"

[StealthFan]

Where's that racoon stephen a smith smiley

[Rufus]

Blows my mind too. They were shredding evidence in relation to the NSU. Consequences? None.

IIRC they have so infiltrated some groups (e.g. the NPD) that there can't be grounds to ban these groups as hate groups as the leadership contains undercover officers. Dangerous stuff all around.

I trace this back to the poor denazification in the FRG, but I readily admit that's territory.

Not to derail the thread further, but:

The first time failed because of that. Turns out paid informants* testifying for the banning of a party are kind of bad.

The second try that's underway makes idealogical arguments, i.e. the NPD follows the ideals of the NSDAP and ultimately wants to abolish democracy and so on. Dunno about the chances of this one.

*Funny thing about this infiltration business is that it's not infiltration at all. They call it V-Peson or V-Mann and there have been numerous scandals throughout the years surrounding the practice. Thing is: they're not law enforcement working undercover, they're informants who get put on the payroll in exchange for insider information, presumably for as long as they co-operate and/or have access to valuable information.
Probably the most prominent case (that got out) is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Urbach

This NSU business is also suffused with speculation about these informants and hence BfV involement, with question about how much they knew about the group and for how long, etc. They didn't shred those files for nothing.

[Himu]

This thing is showing who the coons are for real. Used to hate that word, but now I know why they used it back in the day. My dad was telling me how back in the 60s some coons would try to justify some of the brutality against the people. Coons are real, and they're out there. When you have a clear obstruction of justice and some person defending it, nope. Nope.

[Himu]

No. He's white. He doesn't gain use to that word. He should shut the fuck up.

[Himu]

[headwalk]

weird vibe in here.

i guess this is how chelsea fans feel.

[Your Stalker]

I distinctly remember him saying he was half black or something.

he said that to fit in on thecoli

[Himu]

New page, summary from last night:


What about white on white crime?
police violate black peoples rights to protest
live demonstration of police attack on tv/internet on protesters
no looting
police lied about not using tear gas, they used a combo of smoke bombs and tear gas
Police arrest people who are sitting in their cars
media gets gassed
Witnesses say it was police doing the shooting with live rounds
white dude gets shot
AND he was the one who had a gun

international news is going to tear ameriKKKa up! imagine the ways Russia, China, and PRK will use this as ammo against America. There's no way they can spin this.

[Kara]

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Ah the "progressive" bias cable channel framing the narrative in a helpful manner.

e: HOLY SHIT IT EVEN HAS THE LEAN FORWARD BRANDING

liberals

[Himu]

@MacAndCheeks
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We went through TWO DAYS of Mike Brown's character being assassinated on national tv to find out he DID pay 4 cigars.

OH MY FUCKING GOD

[Human Snorenado]

For fucks sakes. Eagerly awaiting all of the assholes that called him a thug to retract and apologize.

[Himu]

I don't think he had an id. In a report it said he didn't take his drivers test.

My interpretation:

Seems to me, store owner thought he was under aged,  and the store owner wanted to see id, so they pretended to steal the cigarillos, so Mike uses his size to distract, Dorian takes a cigarillo, and puts the box back, mike leaves the money on the counter.

[Himu]

DoJ conducting autopsy.

[AdmiralViscen]

Honestly I am having a hard time telling what the fuck is going on in the video

[benjipwns]

It's called misdirection. Thug Brown drops something, then puts money up on the counter and then days later grabs the cops gun when he isn't looking. Criminals learn this type of slight of hand all the time. Neal Cafferty is a master at it.

[brob]

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/08/what-i-did-after-police-killed-my-son-110038.html#ixzz3AejLc4l6

In 129 years since police and fire commissions were created in the state of Wisconsin, we could not find a single ruling by a police department, an inquest or a police commission that a shooting was unjustified.

[Human Snorenado]

That video is not conclusive, but it looks like money was exchanged, dunno. Wonder if any big media will pick it up or if it will matter at all.

[AdmiralViscen]

What is the money? That blob of whatever that is grabbed by the shopkeeper at 31 seconds? Is it really enough to cover that big wad of cigars (?) that fall on the ground?

[Himu]

@kmoxmaria
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DOJ authorizes third autopsy of Michael Brown, by federal medical examiner. #Ferguson

Now we can get to other matters. Matters like, WHY THE FUCK WASN'T THERE AN INCIDENT REPORT?

[Himu]

Holy shit.

https://vine.co/v/M3eh0hqqMY6

Cops tear gassing people on their own property.

[Himu]

Zach Green @140elect
#ThatAwkwardMoment the Supreme Leader of IRAN is outraged by human rights abuses in #Ferguson...https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/500355828227252225
12m ago



Imam Khomeini @IRKhomeini
You are not alone in your complaint against the oppressive govt of US; the US has oppressed many nations. #Ferguson

[Human Snorenado]

Let's disregard for a minute here that Iran would probably kill you like 3 times over, Himu 

[PlayDat]

!!!!!!!!!!!!

@BradHutchings
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They’re arresting @jack, co-founder of Twitter.  Holy clusterfuck #Ferguson. Game over, you clowns lose. @GovJayNixon, just resign, moron.

Could be escorted.

Not even.  He drove home.

[Himu]

Let's disregard for a minute here that Iran would probably kill you like 3 times over, Himu 

I'm not celebrating Iran. I'm celebrating America getting thrashed internationally despite acting like a holier-than-thou-let's-save-everyone-for-their-rights brashness. The international community shitting on America is a good thing. I never said about living there or anything. Cannot wait for China, PRK, and Russia to sound off.

More than that, that doesn't change the fact he's not wrong.

[Human Snorenado]

Those places don't count because they always troll the fuck outta the US when something like this happens, come on. If the UK, France, etc start saying shit then that actually matters.  You're basically celebrating minor league assholes safely lobbing meaningless insults from afar at the major league asshole as something that actually matters, when it doesn't.

 

[Himu]

Also, I'm not disregarding anything. If you knew correct Coli smilie use, you'd know that I'm laughing at his segregation pic tweet. 

[Human Snorenado]

CACs gonna CAC

[Madrun Badrun]

Let's disregard for a minute here that Iran would probably kill you like 3 times over, Himu 

I'm not celebrating Iran. I'm celebrating America getting thrashed internationally despite acting like a holier-than-thou-let's-save-everyone-for-their-rights brashness. The international community shitting on America is a good thing. I never said about living there or anything. Cannot wait for China, PRK, and Russia to sound off.

More than that, that doesn't change the fact he's not wrong.

[Phoenix Dark]

I distinctly remember him saying he was half black or something.

He's on welfare and disability. I'd say that makes him at least 47% black.

[Human Snorenado]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ferguson-curfew-second-night

I wonder if this stops people from visiting their Taco Bell for late night food

[Joe Molotov]

I distinctly remember him saying he was half black or something.

He's on welfare and disability. I'd say that makes him at least 47% black.

[Great Rumbler]

The Ferguson police chief is pretty much toast at this point:

On NBC's "Meet the Press," Nixon said that the release of the video did lead to the unrest on Friday and Saturday nights.

"To attempt to in essence disparage the character of this victim in the middle of a process is not right. It’s just not right," he said. "And secondarily, it did put the community, and quite frankly the region and the nation, on alert again. These are old wounds. These are deep wounds in these communities. And that action was not helpful."

NBC's Andrea Mitchell asked if the Ferguson police would be held acountable for releasing the video.

"We’ve had very serious discussions about that action and how much we thought that it was not the right way to handle the victim’s family, which I had a chance to speak with," Nixon responded. "They were deeply troubled, and when you see your son gunned down in the street and then you see a police chief begin an attempt to attack his character, that’s just not the way to operate.”

[Your Stalker]

I distinctly remember him saying he was half black or something.

He's on welfare and disability. I'd say that makes him at least 47% black.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Top notch reporter from the Huffington Post confuses earplugs with rubber bullets:

[milchs evil twin]

I know this isn't really relevant, but I never realized just how little German police uses their guns.

The latest good numbers I could find (in German) suggest that in 2011 they fired 85 rounds. They aimed at people 36 times, killed 6, injured 15. No bystanders harmed.

In the same year, Miami Police fired 116 shots at a single Person.

[Great Rumbler]

I know this isn't really relevant, but I never realized just how little German police uses their guns.

The latest good numbers I could find (in German) suggest that in 2011 they fired 85 rounds. They aimed at people 36 times, killed 6, injured 15. No bystanders harmed.

In the same year, Miami Police fired 116 shots at a single Person.

Gun culture in America is totally nuts, plain and simple.

[toku]

http://ras-al-ghul-is-dead.tumblr.com/post/94965301135/a-silent-protest-in-love-park-downtown

[Kara]

Let's disregard for a minute here that Iran would probably kill you like 3 times over, Himu 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes

Unrelated: it's the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), not the People's Republic of Korea (PRK). They're like way better than China, which is just a People's Republic instead of a democratic people's republic.

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Be a pedant brehs.

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[Madrun Badrun]

Did cops kill Ra's al Ghul too?  Fucking pigs, Batman could have stopped him without guns. 

[Great Rumbler]

Rep. Lacy Clay (D-MO), who represents Ferguson, Mo., on Saturday said that he doesn't trust the Ferguson police to conduct a fair investigation into the death of Michael Brown, the black teen who was shot by a police officer.

"I have absolutely no confidence in the Ferguson police, the county prosecutor," Clay told CREDO's Ferguson Justice Live. "We know we won't get a fair shake there."

The congressman slammed the local police for releasing a video that allegedly shows Brown robbing a convenience store.

"That's why they did what they did today, was to negatively influence a jury pool in St. Louis County," Clay said. "Just to assassinate Michael Brown's character is wrong. He was already assassinated, so now you're going to assassinate his character? What kind of human being are you? That’s the kind of question I have to ask."

[Phoenix Dark]

Wait, did he pay for the swishers or not? I saw the new video Himu posted but didn't Brown also grab the store clerk? Has the store clerk said anything?

[headwalk]

Wait, did he pay for the swishers or not? I saw the new video Himu posted but didn't Brown also grab the store clerk? Has the store clerk said anything?

thanks for asking the questions that i feel too white to ask.

[StealthFan]

Niccas denying my heritage ITT

[brawndolicious]

What is the money? That blob of whatever that is grabbed by the shopkeeper at 31 seconds? Is it really enough to cover that big wad of cigars (?) that fall on the ground?

Each of them are like a dollar or two. Assuming these are liks black & milds or something.

[Himu]

What is this I hear about Sharpton going in at a rally? He said something about Hilary Clinton? I thought he was a pawn...

J cole is there too. So glad we finally have a rapper/athlete/star who has the audacity to go down there or say ANYTHING really. The lack of black stars commenting on this is ridiculous. They can talk about Gaza but not this? Where's GNAUZE? I have lost respect for these people.

If Tupac were alive he would be on the front lines even after curfew. Another reason he's the GOAT.

[etiolate]

this is the bizarre take from my right leaning FB friends

[StealthFan]

Of course they comment on Gaza. They're beholden to Jewish masters. How could you expect niccas with millions of dollars to empathize? They live in black neighborhoods? Nah. They practically white now.

[Himu]

I'm pretty sure most of them sided with Palestine. Queen Rihanna even tweeted a free Palestine tweet. They can comment on how Donald Sterling doesn't want Magic at his Clippers games but not on this?

[Himu]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AntonioFrench/statuses/501111870531858432

[Your Stalker]

[Himu]

London protesters

http://www.demotix.com/news/5543416/protests-black-boy-shot-ferguson-missouri-london#media-5543376

Good post on the Coli:

Very powerful. This is a very significant moment in American history and undoubtedly has the NSA, the media, and the government spooked. The fact people are able to organize on the internet and get the message out to people outside of the country unfiltered is a powerful thing. Thank god for Twitter. Don't be surprised if the government puts in policies to reduce the anonymity that twitter provides after this.

[fistfulofmetal]

can someone do me a favor and send me a few links to eye witnesses who say he died after throwing his hands up, giving up?

[brob]

Buncha hastag activists and keyboard warriors

[Himu]

No apcs or sniper rifles? 





@jonswaine
11 officers policing the protest in support of Darren Wilson. Five of them are on bicycles.

Tibetan monks:




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@jonswaine
There are perhaps 125 people at this pro-Darren Wilson protest. 124 white people and Martin Baker, aged 44

:deadpos

can someone do me a favor and send me a few links to eye witnesses who say he died after throwing his hands up, giving up?