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GAMERGATE: Both Sides Have The Same Melt Value
« on: September 21, 2014, 11:38:10 AM »
I don't really want to wade through the I Haven't Gotten Over GAF thread, but I would like some Bore commentary on all this.  Woman who consider themselves part of the gaming "community" are being threatened with violence I guess?  And MRA's are upset because demographics are shifting within their exclusive clubhouse?  Is any of this actually something new?
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Re: GAMERGATE
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2014, 11:42:01 AM »
Is any of this actually something new?
Nothing about the whole thing was new. Lots of gamers are immature and abuse women, minorities, gay people, etc.

But then lots of society is the same way in general towards those exact same groups.

It's simply an issue of the moment that's galvanized people for a short time until the next thing comes around and they go back to not caring about it.

There is a thread already on here about it somewhere.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=42254.0

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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2014, 01:43:03 PM »
Allow me to sum up
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2014, 02:33:08 PM »


and this is why this dumb internet fight is a good thing

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2014, 10:44:13 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2014, 10:53:55 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2014, 04:01:19 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2014, 04:44:43 PM »
Cultural Marxism in mah vidyas  :gddr5
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2014, 07:27:03 PM »
Wii U will be safe from it.

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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2014, 07:57:39 PM »
gamer's gate is no steam or even gog, that's for sure

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2014, 08:13:41 PM »
It's not but I can't hate on em, they gave me the Bethesda Collection for $20 when they accidentally applied a discount twice and didn't revoke it like they did for a lot of people who bought after me. (Probably because I grabbed and activated as many of the keys as I could while the site was getting hammered from other people trying to buy.)

And they've had some other good deals, and you get those points back.

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2014, 07:12:05 PM »


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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2014, 08:24:43 PM »
Not since I attended that Ron Paul rally in a fedora and cargo shorts and got 57 streetpasses on my 3DS have I felt so alive and relevant! :rejoice
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2014, 08:26:36 PM »
I sincerely hope that dude is only 15 years old.
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2014, 02:58:50 AM »
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The beauty of it is that this could've come from either side.
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2014, 07:52:26 AM »
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This is hilarious as fuck.
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2014, 01:05:17 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2014, 07:22:21 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2014, 07:27:43 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2014, 08:36:57 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2014, 07:25:46 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2014, 08:41:24 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2014, 11:16:23 PM »
Holy fuck, I tried to read the Wikipedia article on Gamergate because all I really know about it is Feminazis vs. Misogynazis, but my eyes kept glazing over. Can someone TLDR this controversy for me please?
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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2014, 11:23:50 PM »
Let me explain...

No. Is too long. Let me sum up:

A woman who happens to have been a game developer had sex with a "games journalist" and that's worse than a hypothetical Hitler-Stalin progeny sodomizing Mother Teresa while pissing fire on the US Constitution. Or something. The outrage is in no way related to a woman having control of her own sexual agency or whatnot. Also, said woman took a bunch of suicide girls style nudies back in the day, which makes her a dirty sloot-whoor of epic proportions.
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2014, 11:26:15 PM »
Let me explain...

No. Is too long. Let me sum up:

A woman who happens to have been a game developer had sex with a "games journalist" and that's worse than a hypothetical Hitler-Stalin progeny sodomizing Mother Teresa while pissing fire on the US Constitution. Or something. The outrage is in no way related to a woman having control of her own sexual agency or whatnot. Also, said woman took a bunch of suicide girls style nudies back in the day, which makes her a dirty sloot-whoor of epic proportions.
And somehow also, Phil Fish.
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« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2014, 12:15:45 AM »
Let me explain...

No. Is too long. Let me sum up:

A woman who happens to have been a game developer had a boyfriend who wrote a slashfic about her to relieve his epic asspain after being dumped and it somehow rallied the ignorant misogynist masses like a MRA Constitution. Or something. The outrage is in no way related to a woman having control of her own sexual agency or whatnot. Also, said woman took a bunch of suicide girls style nudies back in the day, which makes her a dirty sloot-whoor of epic proportions.
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« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2014, 12:27:04 AM »
And somehow also Phil fish
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« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2014, 03:44:00 AM »
I thought she had sex with multiple game journos and had something to do with a kickstarter game where she took all the money.

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« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2014, 03:54:32 AM »
Holy fuck, I tried to read the Wikipedia article on Gamergate because all I really know about it is Feminazis vs. Misogynazis, but my eyes kept glazing over. Can someone TLDR this controversy for me please?

Sure!

Guys who were picked on in school, and could never figure out why the girls they liked would never go for "nice guys" like them have grown older. Now they've made enough money that a good portion of modern media is now focused on them and trying to vie for their consumer dollars by producing media which appeals to their interest in comics-movies, fantasy TV shows, science fiction TV shows, and related video games. It has currently become the dominant paradigm of popular media.

Because this type of media has become "normal," most everyone is enjoying it, which means it's no longer the private club house of picked-on guys who can't get girls. Now open to more serious scrutiny, they've experienced an influx of people who are suddenly questioning why fantasy women have to wear chain mail bikinis, why women superheroes always point their ass at the viewer on comic book covers, and why female gamers are required to play their opposite gender in video games.

TL;DR - A large percentage of geeks fear change, even though having more people interested in their bullshit hobbies would improve their odds of overcoming their #foreveralone status.

Ah, sorry, forgot an important side-note: These "nice guys" who couldn't get girls are now choosing to make their point about how they've been wronged by stalking, hacking, releasing personal address and phone information online, threatening rape, murder, and calling in bomb threats.
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« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2014, 04:07:27 AM »
Let the record show that despite being a #foreveralone and usually outwardly polite I have never thought of myself as nice or good
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« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2014, 04:24:33 AM »
I thought she had sex with multiple game journos and had something to do with a kickstarter game where she took all the money.

impressively, none of that is true.

she had sex with *a* game journo and a few indie devs. she's never been anywhere near kickstarter, so i'm guessing your conflating her with anita sarkeesian, who stands accused of running a successful kickstarter campaign that she has delivered on to the satisfaction of her backers.

So this was all bs made by 4chan?  Interesting.  I didnt get confused with Anita Sarkeesians Kickstarter thoguh.

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« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2014, 06:50:39 AM »
Holy fuck, I tried to read the Wikipedia article on Gamergate because all I really know about it is Feminazis vs. Misogynazis, but my eyes kept glazing over. Can someone TLDR this controversy for me please?

some girl called zoe quinn created a game called depression quest and then apparently fucked some kotaku editor in order to get coverage of her game, this caused a dumb internet fight where on one hand you have gaming journalist, certain feminism figure and people like chronovore telling how everybody who plays video games is an horrible psychopath, misogynist and manchild and on the other hand you have people who keep saying it's not really about misogyn and think that if they squawk around the internet long enough they'll get rids of site like kotaku and polygon, basicaly this is a nice summary pic that you guys will easily understand



with that said



i hope the manchild wins :fbm
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« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2014, 07:41:26 AM »
magoose when's the last time you went on a date
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« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2014, 07:58:45 AM »
magoose when's the last time you went on a date

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« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2014, 08:28:49 AM »
false my mom is older than 12 you would never
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« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2014, 08:33:36 AM »
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« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2014, 09:59:28 AM »
false my mom is older than 12 you would never

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« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2014, 10:02:21 AM »
Personally I'm really shocked that people are still talking about this in any real way
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« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2014, 10:20:42 AM »
Personally I'm really shocked that people are still talking about this in any real way

the thing is, this whole controversy makes for amazing clickbait, even a site like cracked which is a comedy site who had stuff like "the 5 weirdest animal on earth!" and "top 5 creepiest place on earth!" has now article about how you are an awfull person for even being in the proximity of a videogame

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« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2014, 01:29:06 PM »
the world of technology & culture is just changing, I think for the better-ish overall, and some people can't deal  :stahp
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« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2014, 01:57:06 PM »
You got a whole wide world of oppression going on but you target gamers?  :neogaf

That is some bottom-of-the-barrel SJW activism right there.

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« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2014, 02:02:52 PM »
I'm not even sure what anyone is mad about. That people involved in the same industry fraternize? That their spergtard standards aren't adhered to even in POLITICAL JOURNALISM, much less games journalism?

...just kidding, they're pissed that a pretty girl is fucking and they're not. DUH.
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« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2014, 02:16:47 PM »
who said anything about pretty?
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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2014, 02:20:22 PM »
who said anything about pretty?

I think she's pretty, but then again I have a weakness for suicide girls type. Diff'rent strokes and all that, cat.
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« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2014, 02:24:00 PM »
Yeah I never got the suicide girls bit.
But honestly, her looks have nothing to do with it.  She could look like a truck and it wouldn't make any difference so long as she was a girl.
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« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2014, 02:50:12 PM »
But honestly, her looks have nothing to do with it.  She could look like a truck and it wouldn't make any difference so long as she was a girl.

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« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2014, 02:52:18 PM »
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« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2014, 10:33:36 PM »
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Apparently this is somehow not an intentional parody of GamerGate.

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Yes, it's a political satire, but also sadly based on the truth of the current Social Justice agenda being pushed by groups like Silverstring Media, DiGRA, Feminist Frequency, Gawker Media such as Kotaku, Vox Media such as Polygon, Adria Richards ala Donglegate, Groups like Freethought blogs and Atheism Plus, Gender Studies via Academia such as Gail Dines anti-pornogray Stop porn culture, Marxist Feminist, WikiMedia, The US goverment with programed like It's On Us and Ban Bossy.
Several years ago Penn and Teller talked about this Social Justice Movement in collages censoring Freedom of speech. Bullshit Season 3, Episode 6 part 1,Part 2
Here is a good rebuttal to the general Myth of Social Justice By Jessica Pacholski
Here F.A. Hayek talks about the economic failures of Social Justice
HereYuri Bezmenov a former KGB oprative talks about how Social justice is used as a psychological warfare subversion tactic to control of western society
Here is Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals how he talks about how to Radicalize a society to force a fallacious appeal to compromise to force a socialist victory.
Here is a video about how the political left destroyed the art world back in the 1930.
A Conspiracy Within Gaming by Sargon of Akkad
A Philippic Against Social Justice in Gaming by Sargon of Akkad
Sue Gardner of Wikimedia wants to apply a Progressive Stack to Wikipidia
You also need to read about the history of Critical theory from the frankfurt school.
Here is the TL;DR Regarding #GamerGate, but be assured the people pushing for this Marxist feminist critique of games are egalitarian socialist.
If you want to know more check out r/kotakuinaction and r/tumblrinaction and https://8chan.co/gg/ as well as the #GamerGate #NotYourShield on Twitter
Moot for 4chan has even started censoring 4chan (on boards like /v/ and /pol/) and rumors are that the NSA might have had a hand in blackmailing him through the resent leaked celebrity nudes aka "the fappening". However, it is more likely that he is now friends with ant-Capitalist Social Justice advocates.
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Reddit Mods Shadowbanning anyone who talks about Social Justice Negatively outside of excepted free speech zones.[1],[2]

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« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2014, 10:46:35 PM »
Some of the links from that  :rofl:



TL;DR: #GamerGate:
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« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2014, 11:04:39 PM »
Fuck it all, I think I'll take up woodworking
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« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2014, 11:19:07 PM »
Fuck it all, I think I'll take up woodworking
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« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2014, 11:27:42 PM »
Fuck it all, I think I'll take up woodworking
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« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2014, 12:35:19 AM »
Even the TL;DR version was TL;DR.
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« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2014, 12:48:29 AM »
 :lol @ Magus feeling like he's being attacked for playing videogames
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« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2014, 06:11:32 AM »
:lol @ Magus feeling like he's being attacked for playing videogames

??? did it came feeling like that in anything i wrote?
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« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2014, 04:17:47 PM »
:lol @ Magus feeling like he's being attacked for playing videogames

??? did it came feeling like that in anything i wrote?

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« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2014, 05:52:58 PM »
Why is it that the summaries of this controversy that support the cause of "gamers" find it so easy to completely glaze over the details that dismantle their arguement and make a large majority of that side look like ignorant, overreacting manchildren?

Whatever, this whole event and the media attention it collected just served as the perfect scapegoat to completely detatch myself from the game industry.
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