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Kara

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2220 on: February 04, 2015, 12:38:21 AM »
This is why you need to get your revenge by writing a novel in the genre that surpasses In Search of Lost Time.

This would be one of the most depressing books ever written. Just my pathetic romantic episodes in the last 9 months alone would up the suicide rate a quarter of a point.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2221 on: February 04, 2015, 01:33:16 AM »
Anyone know how to display time and battery life in landscape mode on an iPhone (safari). This shit is pissing me off. I finally downloaded the new iOS and this must be a bug.
tap the top of the screen brah

All I see is the URL bar. I see time/battery/etc in portrait mode by not landscape. Rustles my jimmies...
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2222 on: February 04, 2015, 02:16:11 AM »
This is why you need to get your revenge by writing a novel in the genre that surpasses In Search of Lost Time.

This would be one of the most depressing books ever written. Just my pathetic romantic episodes in the last 9 months alone would up the suicide rate a quarter of a point.

I'm waiting for you to say why this would be a bad idea.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2223 on: February 04, 2015, 11:22:19 AM »
I signed up to be a tutor, and I now have six (six!!!) students.

:obama

I'll be doing some substitute teaching for a former teacher of mine. Accounting intro class (financial). Looks like I'll be going over the second chapter mainly which would be surprising in most cases; usually classes are well into chapter 3 or 4 by now, in most of their classes. But this teacher put a lot of emphasis on those early chapters, drilling basic shit into students like double entry, understanding accounts, etc. Lots of pop quizzes to make sure people get it.

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Kara

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2224 on: February 04, 2015, 04:23:56 PM »
Reminder that people in the 15th century (at the least) could grasp double-entry but accounting 101 courses are littered with absolute imbeciles in 2015.

God I wish I could rant about the interns I've had to deal with lately.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2225 on: February 04, 2015, 09:46:41 PM »
The way our business is set up, most of our entries are quad. :fbm

Been there for a couple years and I still don't get it.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2226 on: February 04, 2015, 10:19:43 PM »
quad? uggg.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2227 on: February 04, 2015, 10:25:40 PM »
I get the idea of double entry, but I get confused about what to debit and what to credit sometimes. Journal entry quizzes kicked my ass.

Pick a simple example you can always remember and think about the logic of it in other situations to guide your line of thinking. My preferred one is (assuming a cash basis of accounting):

Sale to customer:

Debit cash in the amount of X to reflect the increase to your cash balance.

Credit sales in the amount of X to reflect the increase in sales for the period covered.

Let's say that now I'm presented with a journal entry to reflect the sale of new stock in the company.

I'm receiving cash, so I know I'm going to be debiting cash.

What am I going to credit? Even though I sold stock, I wasn't selling product. I was selling equity. Equity... wait a minute, that's it. I credit an equity account.

(These are obviously simple situations, but I hope the point gets across.)

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2228 on: February 04, 2015, 10:32:05 PM »
imo the way that really works is by doing enough examples so that you can readily reach back and pick one if you ever get confused. You can get away with not doing much homework in a variety of college classes IMO. Not accounting.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2229 on: February 04, 2015, 10:34:25 PM »
I get the idea of double entry, but I get confused about what to debit and what to credit sometimes. Journal entry quizzes kicked my ass.

Pick a simple example you can always remember and think about the logic of it in other situations to guide your line of thinking. My preferred one is (assuming a cash basis of accounting):

Sale to customer:

Debit cash in the amount of X to reflect the increase to your cash balance.

Credit sales in the amount of X to reflect the increase in sales for the period covered.

Let's say that now I'm presented with a journal entry to reflect the sale of new stock in the company.

I'm receiving cash, so I know I'm going to be debiting cash.

What am I going to credit? Even though I sold stock, I wasn't selling product. I was selling equity. Equity... wait a minute, that's it. I credit an equity account.

(These are obviously simple situations, but I hope the point gets across.)
Yes, yes. But do you know the difference between On hand and Available?
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2230 on: February 04, 2015, 10:42:03 PM »
I never had too much trouble with accounting, but tax kicked my butt at the higher levels.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2231 on: February 04, 2015, 10:47:35 PM »
Is that a reference to something? Because that's obvious.

On hand = amount of stock physically present
Available = amount of stock unallocated to any order or demand

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2232 on: February 04, 2015, 10:58:52 PM »
Here it is.
I swear this is the conversation I just had.

Singapore: "So Puppy, we have so many metrics to use. Like Total Available and On Hand. Which do we use when?"
Me: "Well, whichever one is appropriate."
Singapore: "So Available?"
Me: "Well, if that's what you're looking for then yes. But there are going to be times where you want to know what you have and how much room you're taking up in which case 'On Hand' is more appropriate. It's rather simple. Available means that it's available to sell, On hand is everything you have"
S: "I don't think you understand how retail works. We sell what we have."
Me: "Not everything. For example, floor models."
S: "We sell those too."
Me: "Ok bad example, Let's say I just received 20 beds in the back."
S: "OK"
Me: "I have 20 beds to sell, and 20 on hand because that's what I have. OK?"
S: "Ok"
Me: "Let's say that someone then comes in and buys 5 but they haven't picked them up and wont for a week. OK?"
S: "OK"
Me: "So your Available to sell is 15 because you can't sell those 5 again. But your on hand is 20 because those 5 you sold are still taking up space in the back."
S:".......I don't think you understand how retail works."
 :mindblown
Remember all this from several weeks ago?

Well here's a conversation I just had with exactly the same people a few minutes ago

S: "Puppy! These numbers don't match!!"
Me: "That'd be because one of them is Available and the other is On hand."
S: "Yeah they're supposed to be the same."
Me: "No they're not."
S: "What do you mean?"

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2233 on: February 04, 2015, 11:06:50 PM »
Oh I think I get it -- if they don't pick it up, you can just sell it, right? :teehee

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2234 on: February 04, 2015, 11:27:12 PM »
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2235 on: February 05, 2015, 01:52:57 AM »
They said it might be five days till I go home. I'm trying to be OK with it. No one has come to see me.

Just saw this, still sick? I'll visit you, being bored and alone in a hospital is the worst thing.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2236 on: February 05, 2015, 02:24:12 AM »
They said it might be five days till I go home. I'm trying to be OK with it. No one has come to see me.

Just saw this, still sick? I'll visit you, being bored and alone in a hospital is the worst thing.

Thank you for the offer, but I just got home tonight. They kicked me out because It was healthier for me to be out of the hospital than in it due to hospital born illness. Which didn't matter because I also got whatever is going around.

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Kara

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2237 on: February 06, 2015, 01:19:36 AM »
I deliberately hung a painting I hate in my room. This is a level of fucked up I didn't know I was capable of.

Kara

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2238 on: February 06, 2015, 01:21:54 AM »
Nothing famous or even recorded in the pages of history, just something my paternal grandmother painted.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2239 on: February 06, 2015, 01:29:23 AM »
Good form, nice colors, and utterly insipid.

I know I'm not one to judge people for wasting talent, but wasting talent you don't even comprehend you have is like an Nth degree of hell for me to observe.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2240 on: February 06, 2015, 02:06:32 AM »
I know I'm not one to judge people for wasting talent, but wasting talent you don't even comprehend you have is like an Nth degree of hell for me to observe.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2241 on: February 06, 2015, 03:11:02 AM »
Course overhauls when tutoring always sucks, especially if you've been tutoring the same thing for a couple years, and then the professors suddenly do a major overhaul.

And it's not like the students can be any help with it.  :lol

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2242 on: February 06, 2015, 09:57:04 AM »
Sitting in a meeting with a VP of Sales and a VP of Finance is like being between Russia and the Ukraine.

Sales VP: If our budget is this I believe we can return this...

Finance VP: Believe? How do I quantify "believe"

Sales VP: Quantify it by knowing I pay for your ass to sit in that seat

Score one for the sales guy I guess

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2243 on: February 06, 2015, 01:25:06 PM »
Who do each of those guys report to?

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2244 on: February 06, 2015, 01:42:42 PM »
:snoop
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2245 on: February 06, 2015, 02:00:41 PM »
i want one of those cookies from Papa John's or Pizza Hut, but i just ordered a pizza from a local place.

Kara

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2246 on: February 07, 2015, 01:56:25 AM »
Feeling like my soul mate TVC; all I want to do is throw my remote through my television. I think I'll settle for my bedroom window, though. I kind of like the TV.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2247 on: February 07, 2015, 03:42:22 AM »
Will you like your TV as much without the convenience of your remote, though?  surely you can throw something less sacred. 

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2248 on: February 07, 2015, 05:27:50 AM »
I have the satellite remote. I'm sure those are easier to replace, and it's not like I watch it anyway if it isn't. Good thinking.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2249 on: February 07, 2015, 08:23:54 AM »
I have the satellite remote. I'm sure those are easier to replace, and it's not like I watch it anyway if it isn't. Good thinking.

There is an ap for the satellite remote for android...probably IOS too. I've been using it to fuck with my wife for about a month.

Be technologically deficient brehs
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2250 on: February 07, 2015, 10:04:36 AM »
Had an important meeting yesterday with my boss. But I couldn't make it because my kid was sick.
So I ask to reschedule. He's on the east coast so he's like 7am your time tomorrow (now today).
I've been up since 5am preparing for the meeting. Then 20 minutes before the meeting I get an email saying "Oh yeah, I've got this thing to do with my kid, let's do it tomorrow."
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2251 on: February 07, 2015, 10:06:48 AM »
Sitting in a meeting with a VP of Sales and a VP of Finance is like being between Russia and the Ukraine.

Sales VP: If our budget is this I believe we can return this...

Finance VP: Believe? How do I quantify "believe"

Sales VP: Quantify it by knowing I pay for your ass to sit in that seat

Score one for the sales guy I guess

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Lol. Sales culture is weird it's different everywhere. Some places the Sales people are king and saying things like that.
Other places, like my current place, they're on the other end of the totem poll. My boss told me a few weeks ago, "Puppy, you need to use sales guys like they're your secretary. That's all they're good for."

btw, get that sales guy in check.  Nothing good comes of that. Finance will start putting up road blocks.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2252 on: February 07, 2015, 10:06:37 PM »
Back's been hurting since this afternoon

Feels a little better now but I still feel pain  :fbm

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2253 on: February 07, 2015, 10:26:20 PM »
Sitting in a meeting with a VP of Sales and a VP of Finance is like being between Russia and the Ukraine.

Sales VP: If our budget is this I believe we can return this...

Finance VP: Believe? How do I quantify "believe"

Sales VP: Quantify it by knowing I pay for your ass to sit in that seat

Score one for the sales guy I guess

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Lol. Sales culture is weird it's different everywhere. Some places the Sales people are king and saying things like that.
Other places, like my current place, they're on the other end of the totem poll. My boss told me a few weeks ago, "Puppy, you need to use sales guys like they're your secretary. That's all they're good for."

btw, get that sales guy in check.  Nothing good comes of that. Finance will start putting up road blocks.

i always wondered what sales culture at other places would be like. at my job we (as a department, not me :jawalrus) basically just bully the shit out of the other departments.

it's like 1/3 by design of how the different role responsibilities are setup. 1/3 of it is the owner basically pitting sales & operations against each other. then the other 1/3 is that most of the sales reps act like dicks about everything. it's just a really toxic culture.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2254 on: February 08, 2015, 12:42:05 AM »
PCE emulation  :pacspit

edit- mednafen is pretty nice  :mynicca
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2255 on: February 08, 2015, 10:56:21 AM »
training myself to sit up straight and actually take advantage of the lumbar support offered by my pc chair instead of hunching over  :paul

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2256 on: February 08, 2015, 02:35:37 PM »
Woke up late this morning because I did stupid shit last night and my parking spot across the street from my Sunday breakfast hangout downtown was taken by a car with an Apple sticker. I had to walk like a whole block and a half.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2257 on: February 08, 2015, 02:50:10 PM »
A few weeks ago my boss announced she was quitting at the end of the year.  She was lazy and incompetent so me and two of her other direct reports ran the department for her while she went out for Starbucks, fucked around on the internet all day, or just simply disappeared for hours a time with nobody knowing where she went.  I was delighted to hear that she recommended me to her boss (the VP) to take her place.  So naturally I applied.  I had two interviews and both seemed to go great.  Then I heard that some asshole from another department that isn't even tangentially related to mine wanted to make a lateral move into the position.  Overnight prospects went from great to shit.  Naturally I heard the bad news this week that they're going with this guy...who has absolutely no experience with the department.  He set up a meeting invitation late next week to talk about the department and he says he already has ideas.  Keep in mind he has no experience with engineering or operations whatsoever but already he has ideas.  I'm preparing for the worst.

Once I'm done with my MBA in the next few months, I think I'm ready to move on to another job.

As an update, this guy sucks ass.

Turns out, this guy and the VP started off working in the same year in the same department about 30 years ago.  He wound up starting on the 29th of December and was horrified to find that the VP would occasionally ask me or my peers for information.  His first declaration right away was that all communication gets routed through him first.  In my limited corporate experience, I have yet to experience one positive instance of closing off channels of communication.  Sure enough, it's only three weeks in and shit is already falling through the cracks.  The VP is making these requests still and it now gets routed through the Director.  Sometimes it gets to us, sometimes it doesn't.  The VP called one of the other managers in the group asking for a status update on something he never received.  Something simple became something urgent because the VP needed to talk to the state regulators and needed that information.  Since the original request was a few days before, it would have been no problem to pull together the information but in a few hours?  It was basically a chinese fire drill to pull it together.  The Director basically disappeared for the rest of the day: turned off his Lync, wouldn't answer anyone's calls, and wouldn't reply to anyone's e-mails.

I had a report that I put together and sent out on 12/15 to my old boss and the new one.  It is due on January 15th and required the director's approval and then the VP's.  On the original e-mail, since the guy was new, I stressed that it has a legal requirement to be in by that date.  I offered to walk him through the report, what we did, how we came up with the numbers, etc.  No response.  So once a week in December, I sent a reminder e-mail about the report, again stressing the due date, offering to meet with him to go over the report.  Nothing.  So about every other day, I called or e-mailed asking for the status and I wouldn't hear anything.  So this morning, our internal compliance staff sent out an e-mail asking why this report hasn't been signed and logged into our data retention system.  Within a minute, the Director, copying in the VP, myself, and a couple others, said he never received anything on the matter but was going to make it a priority to get it done today.  So I responded and attached the old e-mails I sent to him, saying that he received the report on December 15th and received several reminders.  Within a minute or two of sending that e-mail out, I got a call from my boss, one of the few times he's returned my calls, "Uh yeah, I guess I did receive it.  Uh, can you tell me what this report is about?"  About 1:30 today, everything got signed and entered and the panic was over.

I might need to move on to another job sooner than I thought.

Some positive news, my boss on Friday let it be known to us that he put in a request to go back to his old position.  That's right, after six weeks of doing the job, he's tapping out already.  This is pretty unheard of but the guy is extremely connected to the VP and other senior management (which is how he got the job in the first place) so I'm guessing they would be more likely to take his request more seriously.  Fortunately for this guy, they still haven't filled his old position (our corporate bureaucracy is like molasses on a cold day) so it is possible.  If they were to go through with this request, due to said bureaucracy, it may be 1-2 months until it goes through in which case maybe they will repost the position.  Am I a big enough masochist to go through the whole process again?  We'll see.  Knowing my luck, they will either deny the transfer request or fill in the job with some other dickhead.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2258 on: February 08, 2015, 03:32:56 PM »
do eeeeeeeeet

make money
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2259 on: February 08, 2015, 05:25:12 PM »
Yeah, try again.
 It's not often that the world seems to adapt to our needs, so take advantage of it. :win If it doesn't go your way you can go back to packing your bags.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2260 on: February 08, 2015, 06:45:03 PM »
Reading all of that reminds me why I am so fucking done with corporate shenanigans.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2261 on: February 09, 2015, 10:37:53 AM »
Sitting in a meeting with a VP of Sales and a VP of Finance is like being between Russia and the Ukraine.

Sales VP: If our budget is this I believe we can return this...

Finance VP: Believe? How do I quantify "believe"

Sales VP: Quantify it by knowing I pay for your ass to sit in that seat

Score one for the sales guy I guess

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Lol. Sales culture is weird it's different everywhere. Some places the Sales people are king and saying things like that.
Other places, like my current place, they're on the other end of the totem poll. My boss told me a few weeks ago, "Puppy, you need to use sales guys like they're your secretary. That's all they're good for."

btw, get that sales guy in check.  Nothing good comes of that. Finance will start putting up road blocks.

i always wondered what sales culture at other places would be like. at my job we (as a department, not me :jawalrus) basically just bully the shit out of the other departments.

it's like 1/3 by design of how the different role responsibilities are setup. 1/3 of it is the owner basically pitting sales & operations against each other. then the other 1/3 is that most of the sales reps act like dicks about everything. it's just a really toxic culture.
This I agree with.
I'm typically the first person to jump to corporate america's defense when people level accusations of sexism and racism against it because I've been at dozens and dozens of companies and by and large they take gender and racial equality seriously even up to the highest levels. But I wont defend sales at all. Sales is downright toxic and an old boy network and sexist and racist to the core. I mean it's bad enough that when I talk to other consultants about really sexist/racist companies I'll sum it up by saying "The whole company is like one big sales department." And there's nothing else that needs to be said.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2262 on: February 09, 2015, 10:42:51 AM »
The issue, puppy, is that Type B's don't perform well in sales, period. You'll never have a laid back guy lead the company in any sales related measurable. So you hire Type A's who will get the job done but will also demand to be noticed, cause issues, and generally act as if they are the glue that holds the company together.

The following 3 departments should probably never meet with sales on a peer to peer level

1) Engineering: Just forget it
2) Accounting/Finance: The typical accounting person won't be helpful here. They'll shut down.
3) Marketing: Becomes a big dick measuring contest nobody has time for

YMMV

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2263 on: February 09, 2015, 10:50:52 AM »
actually I can't see any team that you'd want to to pair with sales. I mean even Operations and IT can't because they get derailed into panics because "OH NOES! The sales VP wants x!"

Best to treat it like a microcosm of testosterone and pissing contests.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2264 on: February 09, 2015, 10:53:57 AM »
actually I can't see any team that you'd want to to pair with sales. I mean even Operations and IT can't because they get derailed into panics because "OH NOES! The sales VP wants x!"

Best to treat it like a microcosm of testosterone and pissing contests.

I'm fortunate to have a sales VP who normally (the case above is a freak occurrence, not the norm) who conducts himself pretty well most of the time. Our Finance guy is a ball buster who I love because he's great at what he does and can take the abuse. But yeah, IT and sales should never mingle unless it's in the insurance field.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2265 on: February 09, 2015, 10:54:39 AM »
fuck sales people
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2266 on: February 09, 2015, 10:55:11 AM »
fuck sales people

Yeah trust me, if I didn't need them I wouldn't have them.

I find it taxing to slog through bullshit pipelines and the finger pointing they like to generate.


The other funny thing is they all try to emulate sports feelings/emotions but those of us who actually did play see right through it. Grow up.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2267 on: February 09, 2015, 11:09:09 AM »
The way it seems here is there is one sales guy who busts his ass, flies all over the world, and clears closed to if not over $1M in commission every year. Then there are rest of them that coast as account reps and are happy with their support contract residuals.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2268 on: February 09, 2015, 11:13:11 AM »
The way it seems here is there is one sales guy who busts his ass, flies all over the world, and clears closed to if not over $1M in commission every year. Then there are rest of them that coast as account reps and are happy with their support contract residuals.

I don't have a large sales staff or near that level of sales < 10 people but they do a hell of a job for me. So far everybody seems to pull their weight.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2269 on: February 09, 2015, 11:16:39 AM »
My company keeps scaring sales guys away.  :-\
I guess that's what happens when sales guys are the owners.
They want it done their way.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2270 on: February 09, 2015, 11:20:22 AM »
My company keeps scaring sales guys away.  :-\
I guess that's what happens when sales guys are the owners.
They want it done their way.

Sales is transitional anyway. People come in promising the world and deliver nothing...gone. Or do very well and move along to a better paying opportunity...gone. Or act up and get fired....Or my personal favorite...have a meeting in chicago, get drunk the night before, end up in jail, miss the meeting. Fired.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2271 on: February 09, 2015, 11:23:33 AM »
What is the leash time before you realize that a sales person isn't pulling his weight? We seem to have a ridiculously long leash time. There have been a few that were here 18 months and never sold a single thing.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2272 on: February 09, 2015, 11:27:33 AM »
What is the leash time before you realize that a sales person isn't pulling his weight? We seem to have a ridiculously long leash time. There have been a few that were here 18 months and never sold a single thing.

Hard to quantify it's really about the opportunities he's bringing in. Time frames in the IT industry are bizarre...could be the end user needs it done "right fucking now" or could be "we are going to build a data center in 2017."

Basically it's a play it by feel game. I've released guys within 90 days and I've held on to a guy for over a year before he started making the company a profit.

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2273 on: February 09, 2015, 11:37:12 AM »
The damn weather here in south central NY is awful.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2274 on: February 09, 2015, 01:18:44 PM »
hung out with esch yesterday and think I caught his flu

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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2275 on: February 09, 2015, 01:23:54 PM »
nooooo
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2276 on: February 09, 2015, 01:24:10 PM »
:tocry sorry bro if I did, thought I was all better :'(

Unprotected sexual contact no doubt.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2277 on: February 09, 2015, 01:24:19 PM »
And if by flu you meant herpes you'd be right!
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2278 on: February 09, 2015, 01:28:14 PM »
My company keeps scaring sales guys away.  :-\
I guess that's what happens when sales guys are the owners.
They want it done their way.

Sales is transitional anyway. People come in promising the world and deliver nothing...gone. Or do very well and move along to a better paying opportunity...gone. Or act up and get fired....Or my personal favorite...have a meeting in chicago, get drunk the night before, end up in jail, miss the meeting. Fired.
I get that's normally the case, but in this case I think it has to do more with salesguys being pissed off about being told how to sell all the time. My leadership is very hands on. That doesn't matter much when it comes to consultants, they'll just say" yessir" and move on, we do it with clients all day, no sweat.  But sales guys chaffe easily in that case.
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Re: Please share your struggle of the day
« Reply #2279 on: February 09, 2015, 01:39:57 PM »
:tocry sorry bro if I did, thought I was all better :'(


Lolol it's alright I'll be fine. just spent the morning evacuating every ounce of liquid in me and I'm kinda sorta feeling a little bit better now.
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