It's 20XX and people are mad online about Star War!

[TVC15]

Awww, I feel like you’re being hard on Finn, but I guess that’s really Rian’s fault. I still feel like people aren’t quite fully recognizing how terribly he was used in TLJ. He’s basically equal with Rey as the main character in TFA, and TLJ ruins everything. Rian takes away the impact of Rey kissing him by giving him a shitty new love interest that is one of the worst characters in the entire franchise. They give him a B plot.  Pretty sure Rian must be racist.

[Stoney Mason]

Awww, I feel like you’re being hard on Finn, but I guess that’s really Rian’s fault. I still feel like people aren’t quite fully recognizing how terribly he was used in TLJ. He’s basically equal with Rey as the main character in TFA, and TLJ ruins everything. Rian takes away the impact of Rey kissing him by giving him a shitty new love interest that is one of the worst characters in the entire franchise. They give him a B plot.  Pretty sure Rian must be racist.

A lot of characters are treated in questionable ways, but Finn is treated by far the worst. It's really weird. The attempted love interest shoe-horned in at the end was super weird. His demotion of Finn and that awful casino plotline were the most bizarre thing in the movie to me.

[team filler]

Finn was my favorite part of TFA and now this.

[Stoney Mason]

Finn was my favorite part of TFA

Same. He felt like the most real of the characters for me. There were a lot of ways to evolve him and I thought Rian Johnson took absolutely the worst route to do it including Phasma battle 2.0

[etiolate]

It's tough on Finn, but TLJ really fucked over Finn. Fucked over Poe as well. I still don't get the point of what they did to those characters.

[TEEEPO]

finn was my fav char too

[Kara]

Kylo Ren or Hux might as well be Jared.

You could get deep in the weeds looking for parallels of various levels of superficiality (e.g. Cantonica? I remember Anaheim Electronics too) but let's not forget the most important thing: a 2.5 hour mega-blockbuster is about a slow speed chase between capital ships no one cares about like every uninteresting episode of Zeta.

[TVC15]

Just watched a direct to video sequel to Stir of Echoes. Updated ranking:

ESB > SW > ROTJ > TFA > SoE2 > Halloween Resurrection > TLJ > TPM = ROTS > R1 > AOTC

[Tasty]

I liked Finn the most in TFA, too. Sucks to hear TLJ did him dirty.

Also where the fuck is Lando? Racist ass Disney not allowing black men to shine.

It's crazy. He was a big part of Empire, and by Return of the Jedi he basically joined Han, Luke and Leia to form a core of four main chars. He was perhaps the most key person responsible for the destruction of the second Death Star.

Then in TFA, not even a namedrop or mention. The fuck?

It's like the people making the new movies saw ANH and the ending of Empire and that's it. Or, more cynically, that's what they believe is all the public knows about Star Wars and are just focusing on that.

Serious, where the fuck is Lando in these new movies.

I echo the sentiment the new movies feel like alt universe fare and not at all a continuation of Lucas' ideas, but that was always going to be somewhat of a complaint - even if Lucas himself was behind them.

[chronovore]

Real talk: both Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher lost a good bit of weight when they came back. Billy-Dee Williams has done voice work for the REBELS tv show as well as Robot Chicken instances of Lando. He's willing to do the role, but maybe he DGAF about losing weight?

[CatsCatsCats]

Billy Dee Williams is like 10% there mentally is the rumor I heard

[Great Rumbler]

Billy Dee Williams was originally going to have the spot that ultimately went to Del Toro. For reasons that are obvious if you've seen the movie, Rian Johnson decided not to do this.

[chronovore]

Billy Dee Williams was originally going to have the spot that ultimately went to Del Toro. For reasons that are obvious if you've seen the movie, Rian Johnson decided not to do this.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Wait, seriously, Lando was going to sell out the rebellion? Holy shit! 

[close]

[Tasty]

~32:00

[Himu]

Kylo Ren or Hux might as well be Jared.

You could get deep in the weeds looking for parallels of various levels of superficiality (e.g. Cantonica? I remember Anaheim Electronics too) but let's not forget the most important thing: a 2.5 hour mega-blockbuster is about a slow speed chase between capital ships no one cares about like every uninteresting episode of Zeta.

Don't let Zeta lovers see this, they'll kill you.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Zeta is overrated as fuck

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[BlueTsunami]

Maybe in IX the main premise will be the Millennium Falcon runs out of fuel so we get 3.5 hours of pure character dialog as they mine fuel off a comet. We get to watch the characters we know and love without hitting major plot developments uber fans will take exception to. Its a win win. Maybe have a scene were Poe is peeping on Rey and Rose scissoring it out and Rose gets sucked into Reys snatch like that weird ass sith hole in VIII oh wait now we in fanfic territory.

[chronovore]

Maybe in IX the main premise will be the Millennium Falcon runs out of fuel so we get 3.5 hours of pure character dialog as they mine fuel off a comet. We get to watch the characters we know and love without hitting major plot developments uber fans will take exception to. Its a win win. Maybe have a scene were Poe is peeping on Rey and Rose scissoring it out and Rose gets sucked into Reys snatch like that weird ass sith hole in VIII oh wait now we in fanfic territory.

You're really weird.

[chronovore]

Billy Dee Williams was originally going to have the spot that ultimately went to Del Toro. For reasons that are obvious if you've seen the movie, Rian Johnson decided not to do this.

But you'd think they'd have something else for Lando to do instead of a straight up betrayal retread. I mean they wrote in that Rose chick seemingly out of nowhere when you could have Lando, I dunno, own the bar in TFA or something. Shit shouldn't be that hard.

From this point forward, I'm going to retcon Maz as Lando, which will work extra well when Lando asks Han, "Where's my boyfriend?"

[Trurl]

You're really weird.

ONE OF US! ONE OF US! GOOBLE GOBLES, GOOBLE GOBLES!

[BlueTsunami]

I'm just spitballin here 

But I guess my real motivation is to see vagina absorption in the Star Wars Universe ala American Gods

[Himu]

Maybe in IX the main premise will be the Millennium Falcon runs out of fuel so we get 3.5 hours of pure character dialog as they mine fuel off a comet. We get to watch the characters we know and love without hitting major plot developments uber fans will take exception to. Its a win win. Maybe have a scene were Poe is peeping on Rey and Rose scissoring it out and Rose gets sucked into Reys snatch like that weird ass sith hole in VIII oh wait now we in fanfic territory.

Make it a Godard fest with Breathless styled long shots of nothing but riveting idle conversation like,"can a Jedi stimulate a clitoris or prostate to feel like it's being licked by a thousand tongues using the Force?" (edited out the word fuck because after all this is a FAMILY movie and the jokes will go over the children's heads!) Finn will ask Rey that as they lay in bed, staring into each others eyes. It will be Oscar worthy.

It will be the closest we will ever get to a Tarantino directed Star Wars and I demand it.

[Tokyosandblaster]

Maybe in IX the main premise will be the Millennium Falcon runs out of fuel so we get 3.5 hours of pure character dialog as they mine fuel off a comet. We get to watch the characters we know and love without hitting major plot developments uber fans will take exception to. Its a win win. Maybe have a scene were Poe is peeping on Rey and Rose scissoring it out and Rose gets sucked into Reys snatch like that weird ass sith hole in VIII oh wait now we in fanfic territory.

Make it a Godard fest with Breathless styled long shots of nothing but riveting idle conversation like,"can a Jedi stimulate a clitoris or prostate to feel like it's being licked by a thousand tongues using the Force while they fuck?" Finn will ask Rey that as they lay in bed, staring into each others eyes. It will be Oscar worthy.

It will be the closest we will ever get to a Tarantino directed Star Wars and I demand it.

This sounds just like a TVC15 post.

[Himu]

Maybe in IX the main premise will be the Millennium Falcon runs out of fuel so we get 3.5 hours of pure character dialog as they mine fuel off a comet. We get to watch the characters we know and love without hitting major plot developments uber fans will take exception to. Its a win win. Maybe have a scene were Poe is peeping on Rey and Rose scissoring it out and Rose gets sucked into Reys snatch like that weird ass sith hole in VIII oh wait now we in fanfic territory.

Make it a Godard fest with Breathless styled long shots of nothing but riveting idle conversation like,"can a Jedi stimulate a clitoris or prostate to feel like it's being licked by a thousand tongues using the Force while they fuck?" Finn will ask Rey that as they lay in bed, staring into each others eyes. It will be Oscar worthy.

It will be the closest we will ever get to a Tarantino directed Star Wars and I demand it.

This sounds just like a TVC15 post.

I learn from the best.

Force fuck me Rey!

[nachobro]

one uses force and the other uses the force

[chronovore]

Also: midichlorians in the jizz.

[headwalk]

[thehunter116]

Rose is pretty hideous, so is Finn.

I'm getting PTSD from your avatar.

[thehunter116]

So; I said I'd hash out my views for Cindi/any haters/dislikers of TLJ and here they are.

Listen or hatefuck me at your leisure.

1. Biggest complaint and most obvious; I don't like what they did with Luke and/or how it reflects on the Original Trilogy. To be honest, this one comes down to how you view the main theme of the movie having to do with failure and growth. Does Luke getting PTSD and quitting the galaxy sound like Luke from the OT? No; but this isn't Luke from the OT. That's it the whole point to his character and his story. Failing Ben/Kylo because of thinking his legacy mattered is what broke him and gave us TLJ Luke. Like it or hate it from a narrative standpoint it makes sense. As for the OT not mattering of course it did. The galaxy got 30 years of peace and was able to rebuild. Much like in our world the peace doesn't last and even to this day we feel the ramifications of the Civil War and WW2. Hell we just had Nazi's marching in our streets; granted they aren't running around with a giant army of nomadic kidnapped stormtroopers but the main point stands. The conflict in TFA/TLJ if fluid and isn't unrealistic nor does it take away the accomplishments of the OT heroes. In fact it fits in with TLJ's theme of failure quite nicely(although that one is unintended I"m sure).

2. The humor. This one is pure subjectivity so I'll just say that yes there is more; no it isn't Marvel tier (which breaks the mood and undercuts dramatic scenes always) and the humor fits the characters. Poe taunting Hux makes sense both for his character and in a narrative sense, they were going to shoot him down so he bought time. The OT had plenty of humor and the prequels had too many fart jokes and childish humor. But YMMV on this take.

3. Rose and Finn. I'll admit this one is the one that has the flaws; the scene could have been shortened and Finn did get shafted a bit however I don't think his character was destroyed or de-legitimized. The Casino arc was a bit of a mess but it played into the theme of failure. Yes DJ just being there was odd but his character did help to highlight some backstory on where the FO got it's money and weapons as did Canto Bight. As for Rose I do think she was the weakest character in the story but her offenses are hardly deal breaking. A single kiss is nothing compared to this



No. No it is not.

4. Snoke and Rey's backstory/mystery. To be honest I see no issue with playing up expectations and then crashing them down; it's a refreshing take on a series where EVERYONE MUST BE RELATED or EVERYONE MUST BE BIG AND IMPORTANT. Snoke doesn't need to have a backstory because he's dead and wasn't the real villain of the story; Kylo is. Rey's parent's being no bodies fits in with the theme of names and legacies being meaningless to success. You can not like where they took these plot lines but they aren't bullshit; the themes are consistent and fit an overall narrative.

Lastly, ya'll are crazy if you think Disney is writing this story without an overarching guidebook/plot detail.

TLJ was written before TFA was.

[TVC15]

I’ll make one comment on the humor: if the movie didn’t open with that stupid Hux/Poe scene, the humor wouldn’t get nearly as many mentions. It stands out so badly that it taints the entire movie.

[Himu]

No one here cares about Luke and many of us (including me) think he is the best part of the movie.

[Human Snorenado]

I’ll make one comment on the humor: if the movie didn’t open with that stupid Hux/Poe scene, the humor wouldn’t get nearly as many mentions. It stands out so badly that it taints the entire movie.

Pretty much this. Honestly I think the shoulder brush off is worse but it comes and goes so quickly in comparison that it gets more of a pass.

I'm not against humor in Star Wars. I'm all for it if it makes sense, like the Chewy trying to eat a roast porg thing. "Real world" humor like "droid please" from TFA or an elaborate several minute long your mom joke to open TLJ is not where the franchise needs to be IMO.

[Himu]

Chewy you should have eaten the Porg anyways. It was already dead! It died for nothing! How juicy was it?!

[thehunter116]

I’ll make one comment on the humor: if the movie didn’t open with that stupid Hux/Poe scene, the humor wouldn’t get nearly as many mentions. It stands out so badly that it taints the entire movie.

Pretty much this. Honestly I think the shoulder brush off is worse but it comes and goes so quickly in comparison that it gets more of a pass.

I'm not against humor in Star Wars. I'm all for it if it makes sense, like the Chewy trying to eat a roast porg thing. "Real world" humor like "droid please" from TFA or an elaborate several minute long your mom joke to open TLJ is not where the franchise needs to be IMO.

What about a green gnome beating the shit out of a droid for 2 mins straight?

[Himu]

I’ll make one comment on the humor: if the movie didn’t open with that stupid Hux/Poe scene, the humor wouldn’t get nearly as many mentions. It stands out so badly that it taints the entire movie.

Pretty much this. Honestly I think the shoulder brush off is worse but it comes and goes so quickly in comparison that it gets more of a pass.

I'm not against humor in Star Wars. I'm all for it if it makes sense, like the Chewy trying to eat a roast porg thing. "Real world" humor like "droid please" from TFA or an elaborate several minute long your mom joke to open TLJ is not where the franchise needs to be IMO.

What about a green gnome beating the shit out of a droid for 2 mins straight?

Yoda? You mean the same character that was acting senile and crazy on purpose to drive Luke on edge to test him in that martial arts master sort of way?

And I'm pretty sure it's not 2 minutes. Plus it was cute. He clearly said that comedy in Star Wars is fine. We are fine with something like that, and not okay with yo mama jokes. I don't see why it's hard to understand.

[thehunter116]

I’ll make one comment on the humor: if the movie didn’t open with that stupid Hux/Poe scene, the humor wouldn’t get nearly as many mentions. It stands out so badly that it taints the entire movie.

Pretty much this. Honestly I think the shoulder brush off is worse but it comes and goes so quickly in comparison that it gets more of a pass.

I'm not against humor in Star Wars. I'm all for it if it makes sense, like the Chewy trying to eat a roast porg thing. "Real world" humor like "droid please" from TFA or an elaborate several minute long your mom joke to open TLJ is not where the franchise needs to be IMO.

What about a green gnome beating the shit out of a droid for 2 mins straight?

Yoda? You mean the same character that was acting senile and crazy on purpose to drive Luke on edge to test him in that martial arts master sort of way?

And I'm pretty sure it's not 2 minutes. Plus it was cute. He clearly said that comedy in Star Wars is fine. We are fine with something like that, and not okay with yo mama jokes. I don't see why it's hard to understand.

Because just like yoda beating up R2 that scene fits Poe's character.

[TVC15]

Chewy you should have eaten the Porg anyways. It was already dead! It died for nothing! How juicy was it?!

Haha, I feel like I’m nitpicking because I liked this scene, but the humor did strike me as a bit perverse since the porg was already dead. If the porgs wanted to make Chewie feel guilty, they should have focused on guilting him before he murdered and ripped the fur off their breh.

[Himu]

Chewy you should have eaten the Porg anyways. It was already dead! It died for nothing! How juicy was it?!

Haha, I feel like I’m nitpicking because I liked this scene, but the humor did strike me as a bit perverse since the porg was already dead. If the porgs wanted to make Chewie feel guilty, they should have focused on guilting him before he murdered and ripped the fur off their breh.

I liked that scene too. That's the stuff I like.

I’ll make one comment on the humor: if the movie didn’t open with that stupid Hux/Poe scene, the humor wouldn’t get nearly as many mentions. It stands out so badly that it taints the entire movie.

Pretty much this. Honestly I think the shoulder brush off is worse but it comes and goes so quickly in comparison that it gets more of a pass.

I'm not against humor in Star Wars. I'm all for it if it makes sense, like the Chewy trying to eat a roast porg thing. "Real world" humor like "droid please" from TFA or an elaborate several minute long your mom joke to open TLJ is not where the franchise needs to be IMO.

What about a green gnome beating the shit out of a droid for 2 mins straight?

Yoda? You mean the same character that was acting senile and crazy on purpose to drive Luke on edge to test him in that martial arts master sort of way?

And I'm pretty sure it's not 2 minutes. Plus it was cute. He clearly said that comedy in Star Wars is fine. We are fine with something like that, and not okay with yo mama jokes. I don't see why it's hard to understand.

Because just like yoda beating up R2 that scene fits Poe's character.

Doesn't make it any less distinguished mentally-challenged and make the First Order feel any less incompetent.

[Tokyosandblaster]

Chewy you should have eaten the Porg anyways. It was already dead! It died for nothing! How juicy was it?!

Haha, I feel like I’m nitpicking because I liked this scene, but the humor did strike me as a bit perverse since the porg was already dead. If the porgs wanted to make Chewie feel guilty, they should have focused on guilting him before he murdered and ripped the fur off their breh.

I liked that scene too. That's the stuff I like.

I’ll make one comment on the humor: if the movie didn’t open with that stupid Hux/Poe scene, the humor wouldn’t get nearly as many mentions. It stands out so badly that it taints the entire movie.

Pretty much this. Honestly I think the shoulder brush off is worse but it comes and goes so quickly in comparison that it gets more of a pass.

I'm not against humor in Star Wars. I'm all for it if it makes sense, like the Chewy trying to eat a roast porg thing. "Real world" humor like "droid please" from TFA or an elaborate several minute long your mom joke to open TLJ is not where the franchise needs to be IMO.

What about a green gnome beating the shit out of a droid for 2 mins straight?

Yoda? You mean the same character that was acting senile and crazy on purpose to drive Luke on edge to test him in that martial arts master sort of way?

And I'm pretty sure it's not 2 minutes. Plus it was cute. He clearly said that comedy in Star Wars is fine. We are fine with something like that, and not okay with yo mama jokes. I don't see why it's hard to understand.

Because just like yoda beating up R2 that scene fits Poe's character.

Doesn't make it any less distinguished mentally-challenged and make the First Order feel any less incompetent.

The first order wiped out most of the resistance though. I thought they did a good job of wiping out the rebel scum. And it's 2017 going on 2018. Please don't use the word distinguished mentally-challenged in your posts going in to the new year. Really triggers me.

[chronovore]

(...)
TLJ was written before TFA was.

...what?

How would that be possible?

[thehunter116]

(...)
TLJ was written before TFA was.

...what?

How would that be possible?

Because they have a story bible for the trilogy and the brand as a whole.

What, you think a company that brought you a constructed MCU is just winging all of this?

[VomKriege]

A cathedral for the Modern Age 

[seagrams hotsauce]

(...)
TLJ was written before TFA was.

...what?

How would that be possible?

Because they have a story bible for the trilogy and the brand as a whole.

What, you think a company that brought you a constructed MCU is just winging all of this?

Where are you getting this? They just explicitly said the opposite lol

Also that still doesn't make any sense. Why would anyone write a sequel before the movie it's a sequel to

[Momo]

keep letting hunter troll you friends

[Tasty]

Hunter had hope but he's proving to be another GAF-tier fanboy.

[Tasty]

Btw I still haven't seen this thing yet, so save any accusations about bias or whatever.

[etiolate]

I am pretty sure the problem with Rose/Finn is that their entire arc serves no purpose and that nobody thought it was a romantic relationship until Rose went crazy at the end,

[CatsCatsCats]

Finn’s and hotshotpilotguy’s failures made perfect sense to me with the general theme of gaining wisdom from failure 🤷‍♀️

[etiolate]

I think there should be a more valuable lesson for someone like Poe other than "Don't be yourself and just follow authority blindly."

I am not sure what Finn's lesson was.

[Great Rumbler]

I think there should be a more valuable lesson for someone like Poe other than "Don't be yourself and just follow authority blindly."

I am not sure what Finn's lesson was.

Finn's lesson is super-obvious:

"Fight to protect something you care about, not just to mess up the bad guy's stuff."

[etiolate]

it appeared as though he was already doing that

[Huff]

Lol hunter your a tard pls continue

[TVC15]

I think there should be a more valuable lesson for someone like Poe other than "Don't be yourself and just follow authority blindly."

I am not sure what Finn's lesson was.

I think Finn learned the Pence rule. Don’t hang around chicks unless you intend to bang them because they can’t control themselves and go crazy and fall in love and shit randomly.

[Joe Molotov]

I think there should be a more valuable lesson for someone like Poe other than "Don't be yourself and just follow authority blindly."

I am not sure what Finn's lesson was.

I think Finn learned the Pence rule. Don’t hang around chicks unless you intend to bang them because they can’t control themselves and go crazy and fall in love and shit randomly.

Then when you're trying to get in a different hole, they show up out of nowhere to cockblock you.

[etiolate]

(...)
TLJ was written before TFA was.

...what?

How would that be possible?

Because they have a story bible for the trilogy and the brand as a whole.

What, you think a company that brought you a constructed MCU is just winging all of this?

Exactly! So many of these screeds from an (unearned) position of intellectual superiority are—once you scrape off all the empty syllables padding them out—doing nothing more than asking for bigger, heavier hands to hold as they tiptoe through their wishlists.

[Himu]

3. Rose and Finn. I'll admit this one is the one that has the flaws; the scene could have been shortened and Finn did get shafted a bit however I don't think his character was destroyed or de-legitimized. The Casino arc was a bit of a mess but it played into the theme of failure. Yes DJ just being there was odd but his character did help to highlight some backstory on where the FO got it's money and weapons as did Canto Bight. As for Rose I do think she was the weakest character in the story but her offenses are hardly deal breaking. A single kiss is nothing compared to this
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No. No it is not.

On a separate note, why does this movies defenders keep bringing up prequel trilogy to prove their points. They just make it seem even more prequel tier.

[Trent Dole]

Finally saw this. It was a Star Wars ass Star Wars movie. Kind of feels like they are introducing too many new random people just to have them immediately die in the same film. Need a shirt that says I EAT PORGS with half one of them and then the other side a mini rotisserie chicken cause I am a horrible person.

[Himu]

3. Rose and Finn. I'll admit this one is the one that has the flaws; the scene could have been shortened and Finn did get shafted a bit however I don't think his character was destroyed or de-legitimized. The Casino arc was a bit of a mess but it played into the theme of failure. Yes DJ just being there was odd but his character did help to highlight some backstory on where the FO got it's money and weapons as did Canto Bight. As for Rose I do think she was the weakest character in the story but her offenses are hardly deal breaking. A single kiss is nothing compared to this
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No. No it is not.

On a separate note, why does this movies defenders keep bringing up prequel trilogy to prove their points. They just make it seem even more prequel tier.

To expound and build a case:

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/7mzmtf/disney_is_ruining_star_wars_with_its_forced_humour/

Here's an example of what you're doing. Read the comments. That's what you sound like.

Almost every defender of this movie defends it in such a comical, fanboyish manner to the point where they assume all of who don't like don't because we're comic book boy-ing out about "character assassination" more than our actual legitimate criticisms. Then when they do target one of our arguments, such as the forced comedy, they pull like the shit Hunter or this dork at reddit did.

Comically embarrassing.

[thehunter116]

Lol hunter your a tard pls continue

keep letting hunter troll you friends

Hunter had hope but he's proving to be another GAF-tier fanboy.

You guys seriously think they spent 4 billion dollars to just do this shit by the seat of their pants?

I mean really do you think this company is run by the Cleveland Browns management?

[thehunter116]

3. Rose and Finn. I'll admit this one is the one that has the flaws; the scene could have been shortened and Finn did get shafted a bit however I don't think his character was destroyed or de-legitimized. The Casino arc was a bit of a mess but it played into the theme of failure. Yes DJ just being there was odd but his character did help to highlight some backstory on where the FO got it's money and weapons as did Canto Bight. As for Rose I do think she was the weakest character in the story but her offenses are hardly deal breaking. A single kiss is nothing compared to this
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No. No it is not.

On a separate note, why does this movies defenders keep bringing up prequel trilogy to prove their points. They just make it seem even more prequel tier.

To expound and build a case:

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/7mzmtf/disney_is_ruining_star_wars_with_its_forced_humour/

Here's an example of what you're doing. Read the comments. That's what you sound like.

Almost every defender of this movie defends it in such a comical, fanboyish manner to the point where they assume all of who don't like don't because we're comic book boy-ing out about "character assassination" more than our actual legitimate criticisms. Then when they do target one of our arguments, such as the forced comedy, they pull like the shit Hunter or this dork at reddit did.

Comically embarrassing.

You know I've been pretty cool about not being condescending , you could maybe return favor instead of spazing out on me. The humor isn't forced; if it were it would be like Marvel  movies and would ruin key moments in the film.

Kinda proves my point about you being emotional about this ya know.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Yeah but why are you making shit up about TLJ being written before TFA