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Catch-all Cop Thread
« on: January 16, 2015, 01:08:59 PM »
A Florida family has contacted a lawyer after they said they discovered a photo one of their members was being used by the North Miami Beach Police Department in a series of images of black men for target practice, according to television station WTVJ.

“The picture actually has like bullet holes,” Woody Deant told WTVJ in an article published Thursday. “One in my forehead and one in my eye."

Deant's sister, who serves in the Florida Army National Guard, said she discovered her brother's face last month among a set of black male mugshots that were being used for target practice when she attended a shooting range, the station reported. Members of the the North Miami Police Department had been practicing there earlier, she told the station.

The mugshot was 15 years old, according to the family.

“Now I’m being used as a target?” Woody Deant told the station. “I’m not even living that life according to how they portrayed me as. I’m a father. I’m a husband. I’m a career man. I work 9-to-5.”

Police Chief J. Scott Dennis told WTVJ that the practice of using images of actual people is standard. He also denied any evidence of racial profiling, saying that police also have white and Hispanic faces in its inventory.

“Our policies were not violated,” Dennis told the station. “There is no discipline forthcoming from the individuals who were involved with this.”

WTVJ spoke to federal, state and local law enforcement agencies, all of whom said that departments only use commercially produced targets rather than photos of human beings, let alone former suspects.

Dennis told the station that using real people is vital to facial recognition drills.

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2015, 03:30:08 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2015, 04:07:10 PM »
Yeah, sounds about right. 

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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015, 07:44:31 PM »
From the politics thread, but it seems like talking about state-sanctioned police robbery of the citizenry could also be a good topic here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/holder-ends-seized-asset-sharing-process-that-split-billions-with-local-state-police/2015/01/16/0e7ca058-99d4-11e4-bcfb-059ec7a93ddc_story.html

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The Departments of Justice and Homeland Security paid private firms millions to train local and state officers in the techniques of an aggressive brand of policing known as “highway interdiction.” That training, developed by the firms, included methods for ferreting out suspicious drivers and coaxing them into granting warrantless searches of vehicles, according to internal company training documents obtained by The Post. The files emphasized the importance of targeting cash.

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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015, 11:19:58 PM »
The stories of abuse regarding that program were just absolutely unbelievable. It should have ended a long time ago, but at least is ending [in part].
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2015, 10:33:33 PM »
DORAL, Fla. -- Former NBA star Shaquille O'Neal is now a reserve police officer in South Florida.

Doral Police Chief Donald De Lucca swore the retired basketball player in during a ceremony Tuesday afternoon. Shaq had originally applied in September. He will not receive a salary and will cover his own insurance costs.

O'Neal will commute to work from his homes in Fort Lauderdale and Orlando. De Lucca told The Miami Herald that Shaq will mostly be doing community work, serving as a role model for children.

O'Neal has previously served as a reserve police officer for Miami Beach and Golden Beach in Florida; in Tempe, Arizona; and the Port of Los Angeles.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2015, 11:58:00 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-man-shot-jersey-police-raising-hands-150049422.html

"police did not want to release the video out of respect for the man that was killed".  :lol bullshit.  Maybe the police should have had more respect for him while he was still alive. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 08:36:58 PM »
Y'all make a cop catch all thread while I'm on hiatus?  Oh hellllllll no.   :comeon


Actually, I kid.  I truly don't have the energy anymore to carry the "internet cop warrior" banner, and most of you know that when cops do stupid, undefensible shit, that I'll call that out too.

But while I will try to acknowledge the negative articles, I'mma gonna spam the shit out of this thread with positive cop stories too, you f*ckers.   ;)


From the politics thread, but it seems like talking about state-sanctioned police robbery of the citizenry could also be a good topic here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/holder-ends-seized-asset-sharing-process-that-split-billions-with-local-state-police/2015/01/16/0e7ca058-99d4-11e4-bcfb-059ec7a93ddc_story.html

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The Departments of Justice and Homeland Security paid private firms millions to train local and state officers in the techniques of an aggressive brand of policing known as “highway interdiction.” That training, developed by the firms, included methods for ferreting out suspicious drivers and coaxing them into granting warrantless searches of vehicles, according to internal company training documents obtained by The Post. The files emphasized the importance of targeting cash.

The stories of abuse regarding that program were just absolutely unbelievable. It should have ended a long time ago, but at least is ending [in part].

As an example, civil forfeiture is a topic where I am with the rest of you.  I am all for seizing the assets and proceeds of true criminals.  But most of what I've read of how this practise has gone on in America is shameful.
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 08:48:23 PM »
Yesssss this thread just got good

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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2015, 08:51:44 PM »
To turn things slightly more sombre:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/rcmp-const-david-wynn-s-funeral-to-be-attended-by-stephen-harper-1.2929824

An RCMP officer and an auxiliary officer were shot a week ago, investigating a stolen car at a casino in a suburb of Edmonton, Alberta. 

The full-time officer died a day or so ago.  He had not been expected to survive, and had been on life support for the week.  The auxiliary officer is fine.

The suspect was a lifelong petty criminal, with 100 criminal charges against him, for theft, break and enter, firearms offences, and breaches of court orders.

After shooting the RCMP officers, he was found dead from shooting himself.

A Regimental funeral, to be attended by the Prime Minister, is taking place on Monday. 

I wish I could be there.

Rest in Peace, brother.  :(
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2015, 08:56:28 PM »
and in early December, 2014, a BC officer was shot and in serious condition when pulling over a violent suspect with known gang ties.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/kamloops-rcmp-cpl-jean-rene-michaud-shooting-suspect-arrested-1.2858668


The officer has survived to this point.  Unfortunately, no updates have been given via internal correspondance as to his status.  Not sure what his recovery is expected to look like.  :-\
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015, 09:21:33 PM »
Now, let's get personal.

I know that over the past 7 years, I've kept what I do close to the chest.

But I had a close hand in this.   Now, let's all agree, that whatever we think of "big picture drug policy", that illicit synthetic drug labs a la meth, ecstacy, and their analogues, in residential areas, are bad, mmkay?

Good.

Then I present to you this:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/rcmp-hamilton-drug-lab-among-biggest-we-ve-come-across-1.2832274

This was one of the biggest-fuck-off-drug-labs I've yet seen.  And it was half a block from a primary school.  Dozens upon dozens of six year olds walked past this place twice a day.  And like any drug lab, it had the potential of going "BOOM" at any point.  But it didn't get to that point.  Because we did what we do, and we fucking ruined these guys' day.



http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/01/12/rcmp_arrest_3rd_ottawa_man_on_terror_charges.html


In this country's capital, the RCMP in 2015 has already arrested and charged three people with terrorism offences, related to ISIS.



http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-police-probing-threat-at-hotel-after-man-on-rcmp-alert-believed-to-be-located


Just this week, the RCMP was alerted to a former US military chemical weapons expert, living in Nova Scotia, who snapped.  He had been stockpiling chemicals for both explosives, and illicit drug production, purposes.   And he drove to Ottawa with some vague intention of killing police officers.  And due to extreme diligence and cooperation, we were able to stop and arrest this person.



I love you guys, but I guaran-fucking-tee I can fill this thread with positive (and lamentable) cop stories quicker than you guys can fill it with negative ones.   I don't make that claim with the reckless youthful boast I might have years ago.  I say it with the quiet(ish) confidence of someone who has done this for 7 years, and has worked with others for 7 years.  But I still don't want to butt heads here.  This can be a place for both positive and negative police stories.   But y'all know how I'm going to play this.  :D

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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2015, 10:26:37 PM »
I think, like in many cases, a few bad and well-publicized cases make it rough for the majority who are doing the right thing. I also worry what a thankless job it can be will be made even more thankless by those bad cases.

Anyway, as a catch-all thread, the good stories are every bit as welcome as the bad ones. Hell, give me hope for humanity; I won’t bite you for it.

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2015, 10:33:21 PM »
I love you guys, but I guaran-fucking-tee I can fill this thread with positive (and lamentable) cop stories quicker than you guys can fill it with negative ones. 

These are not equal though. Stories of cops doing cop work the way cops are supposed to do cop work doesn't offset stories of cops abusing their station and being protected as if they are elevated above the law. One bad apple spoils the whole bunch, as the saying goes.

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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2015, 09:41:59 AM »
I think what really makes those bad cases so bad is how quickly and completely other cops and cop organizations circle the wagons around those bad apples and try to prevent any action being taken. I understand that it's a brotherhood and all that, but some cops just don't deserve that kind of protection.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2015, 09:26:48 PM »
I think what really makes those bad cases so bad is how quickly and completely other cops and cop organizations circle the wagons around those bad apples and try to prevent any action being taken. I understand that it's a brotherhood and all that, but some cops just don't deserve that kind of protection.

Yeah, that’s definitely the case.

There’ve been a number of cop-written articles on how the cop mentality is an “us vs. them” one, through and through. Apparently to suggest that they’re there at the service of the “them” is to court being kicked out of the “us.”

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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2015, 12:44:12 AM »
People don't think cops be like they is, but they do.

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2015, 04:08:17 PM »
I love you guys, but I guaran-fucking-tee I can fill this thread with positive (and lamentable) cop stories quicker than you guys can fill it with negative ones. 

These are not equal though. Stories of cops doing cop work the way cops are supposed to do cop work doesn't offset stories of cops abusing their station and being protected as if they are elevated above the law. One bad apple spoils the whole bunch, as the saying goes.

Of course.  You're absolutely right in saying this.

I think what really makes those bad cases so bad is how quickly and completely other cops and cop organizations circle the wagons around those bad apples and try to prevent any action being taken. I understand that it's a brotherhood and all that, but some cops just don't deserve that kind of protection.

I think there's different types of "circling the wagons" though.

Sometimes, police circle the wagons for behaviour that is beyond the pale.  Outright wrongdoing that shouldn't be defended.   This pisses me off.

Sometimes, police circle the wagons when an incident is unclear, controversial, whatever.  There is doubt.  And so police circle the wagons because they believe they should give the officer involved the benefit of the doubt.   I am....mostly fine with this.

And sometimes, an incident looks bad, there is lots of outrage, but the police behaviour is legal and justified.  And so police circle the wagons because we're right.
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2015, 04:24:15 PM »
"And so police circle the wagons because we're right."

But that outrage is still an expression of some need of the community not being met. So the wagon circling in that situation gets in the way of meeting the needs of the community when the police for example may be focusing on defending actions taken as "by the book" instead of examining if the book needs updating.

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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2015, 03:09:20 PM »
 :lol Waze was putting officers at risk by reporting their location? These dudes realize that if anyone wants to hurt cops at random that they can just dial three numbers and a bunch of cops will show up shortly thereafter?

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2015, 09:06:24 PM »
at a city council meeting for pros/cons of a civilian oversight board for the police. no joke, the head of the white police officers association got so mad at a black woman complaining about the lies a cop at the podium was saying that he physically attacked her. he walked up and shoved her in a room with like 300 people in it. a fight broke out instantly, of course. unfuckingbelievable.

oh almost forgot that he showed up wearing an I am Darren Wilson armband. I just...
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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2015, 09:41:58 AM »
That's some BS. I'm glad they aren't just sitting there taking it. Call that shit out.
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2015, 11:22:11 AM »
smh at them saying he "allegedly" pushed her when there's video and pics taken from only a few feet away that show the incident clear as day.

or local shit paper (and news stations, from what I've heard) completely omitted the shoving so they could frame it as "BOTH SIDES OMG TENSIONS SO HIGH" kind of deal. so sick of this shit.
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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2015, 11:26:11 AM »
is there a youtube video of the pushing?
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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2015, 02:41:54 PM »
"If you continue with this I will arrest you for resisting arrest."

What.

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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2015, 08:07:53 PM »
Well Boogie, I for one am glad you guys seem to have quit bothering with busting cannabis grow-ops and instead seem to be focusing on Meth labs. It would seem your priorities are in order.


Round here, Heroin has become a huge fucking problem. Last big drug roundup the police did for the papers had not a single person arrested for weed alone. First time in my lifetime that has ever happened.
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« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2015, 08:12:05 PM »
:lol Waze was putting officers at risk by reporting their location? These dudes realize that if anyone wants to hurt cops at random that they can just dial three numbers and a bunch of cops will show up shortly thereafter?

Yes, that is known too. :P

smh at them saying he "allegedly" pushed her when there's video and pics taken from only a few feet away that show the incident clear as day.


Hey now, if slam-dunk-serial-killer-fuckheads have to have their actions described with an  "allegedly" in front of it prior to trial, so does a shove.   It's stupid, sure, but that's the world we live in, whether it's cop-related or not.


"If you continue with this I will arrest you for resisting arrest."

What.

I've never claimed that all of my brothers are the greatest of communicators.....  :-\
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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2015, 08:19:22 PM »
Well Boogie, I for one am glad you guys seem to have quit bothering with busting cannabis grow-ops and instead seem to be focusing on Meth labs. It would seem your priorities are in order.


 :lol

I've busted a grand total of 1 marijuana grow op in 7 years.

....and that was in my first month of service.


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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2015, 08:28:36 PM »
Something something hammer something something everything looks like a nail.

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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2015, 08:45:12 PM »
I really should have been a cop. I think it's one of the professions I was designed to perform :( Too late now.
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« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2015, 08:55:55 PM »
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New Rochelle City officials did not respond immediately to a request for comment. Unofficially, two reliable sources are telling Talk of the Sound that police on the scene that day have said they were called to the scene based on a report of a person with a gun. It is worth mentioning here that it has been the policy of the New Rochelle Police Department for the past two years not to respond to requests for information from Talk of the Sound, to allow Talk of the Sound to participate in daily press briefing or attend press conferences such as the one in November after Operation City Sweeper II. So, Talk of the Sound has no way to obtain any official comment on that matter.

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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2015, 09:43:33 PM »
"based on a report of a person with a gun."

I love these ambiguities.

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« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2015, 02:54:18 PM »
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« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2015, 04:48:00 PM »
suicide my fucking ass :lol

at a traffic stop no less. they're not doing much to make it plausable, but then again they don't have to.
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« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2015, 05:13:04 PM »
Spencer Ackerman writing a series of articles for the guardian about the relationship between enhanced interrogations for the police and the military and all kinds of good stuff

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site?CMP=share_btn_tw

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« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2015, 05:22:29 PM »
What the fuck...


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« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2015, 07:47:26 PM »
Jesus
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« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2015, 08:40:23 AM »
I talked to an old friend of mine about that Chicago shit. He was a higher ranking officer in LA for 25 years before he retired, his answer didn't shock me.

"Every major city had a place where the baddest of the bad get detained. The guys who actually do come with reasonable fear that someone will break them out of jail. This can be MS13, high level dealers, people traders, or ranking gangsters or even celebrities. The problem is about 10 years ago any type of political dissent, whether implied or utilized, will get you sent there now. Fucked up it is, my friend"

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« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2015, 10:18:35 AM »
Vote for Rahm, or else.
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« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2015, 07:46:04 PM »
Just saw that a few minutes ago, that video is...man...straight up murder. Then the cop goes back to grab his stun gun so he can drop is beside the body and claim he was in fear for his life. What an absolute joke.

All for a busted tail light.
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« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2015, 08:29:28 PM »
I was just about to post this. So fucked up. :-\

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« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2015, 09:12:40 PM »
https://news.vice.com/article/south-carolina-cop-charged-with-murder-after-video-shows-him-shooting-unarmed-black-man-in-the-back?utm_source=vicenewsfb
happened less than an hour away from me :(

glad to hear that he is being charged with murder, but knowing the legal system here, he'll be suspended or whatever

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« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2015, 11:40:07 AM »

http://wtkr.com/2015/04/09/virginia-beach-police-investigating-forceful-viral-video-arrest/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/officer-caught-camera-brutalizing-teenager-traffic-stop-attempted-delete-footage/

Brandon is currently imprisoned until July on charges of assault and battery on a police officer and resisting arrest.



http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d46_1428632483
Wow WTF  I like how the audio cuts right as the cops start kicking the dude
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« Reply #59 on: April 10, 2015, 12:53:41 PM »
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She says she was pulled over for a broken license plate light, but the officer told them to get out of the car saying he smelled marijuana.

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