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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #60 on: July 06, 2015, 03:43:55 PM »
Yeah, barring some major 2nd half of the season salvaging of his character, Vaughn looks incredibly miscast. Was worried about that.

Also, like, I get that there needs to be character development but I feel like having so many "leads" cuts in on the time that's devoted to the mystery, which is hurting the show.
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« Reply #61 on: July 06, 2015, 03:59:01 PM »
Yeah, barring some major 2nd half of the season salvaging of his character, Vaughn looks incredibly miscast. Was worried about that.

Also, like, I get that there needs to be character development but I feel like having so many "leads" cuts in on the time that's devoted to the mystery, which is hurting the show.

Just on the second episode alone, my girlfriend and I were already in agreement that there were simply too many lead character stories going on, too many tears being shed over shit that seemed sort of inconsequential in the grand scope of things. Like I don't give a fuck about the possible gay cop's background nearly as much as the show wants me to or the female cop's cult dad. Lot of shrugging shit off, it feels too broad and unfocused, but whatever.
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« Reply #62 on: July 06, 2015, 04:55:29 PM »
I'm actually having a much easier time buying Vaughan than I am Farrell. He's the leakest link for me acting wise right now

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« Reply #63 on: July 06, 2015, 04:57:53 PM »
Compare how hard season 1 was firing at this point to this crap and :brazilcry
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« Reply #64 on: July 06, 2015, 05:00:18 PM »
Farrell and his mustache are easily the best thing about the show. He's a complete and total shitshow of a burnout, I believe it 100%.
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« Reply #65 on: July 06, 2015, 05:23:22 PM »
Best thing about the episode was Fred Ward playing Farrell's dad.

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« Reply #66 on: July 06, 2015, 06:50:53 PM »
I don't think he's terrible like some people, and I think he sort of does a passable job of playing a crappy mobster whose entire life is built on a house of cards and who doesn't know what to do when it all starts to fall apart.  He does an ok job looking confused and uncertain and scared which is what his character is supposed to be.  But he's not great, and I'd hardly say his acting is even good when he does the monologues or stands making eye and facial expressions to try to emote like the end of ep3. 

But compare that to Farrel who nails his character and really knows who he is and feel authentic and Vaughn just does not stack up.  Vaughn was pretty iffy when they announced him for the casting and yeah, it's because he doesn't have great drama acting chops.  The last good acting role he had was...Swingers?  I mean Vaughn + True Detective never sounded like the right match and it's showing.

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« Reply #67 on: July 06, 2015, 08:07:30 PM »
Yeah I'm just not seeing it for Farrell like the rest of you. Just a lot of stern watery eyed stares and quivering.

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« Reply #68 on: July 06, 2015, 09:06:23 PM »
Ferrel's character is interesting but I'm not really into Ferrell. Seems like a role that another actor would really knock out the park on multiple levels. This is a character who is a drug addled burnout, a few steps from a complete breakdown, and desperate...yet I don't really get that impression from Ferrell.

McAdams and Kitsh are doing really well. Especially Kitsh who has some rather middling material to work with. Honestly his general haggardness seems more in line for Ferrell's character to me.
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« Reply #69 on: July 06, 2015, 09:35:14 PM »
Yeah I'm just not seeing it for Farrell like the rest of you. Just a lot of stern watery eyed stares and quivering.

Honestly he's the only of the four leads that hasn't been boring for me so far. Not sure if I really even care about the character that much tho. I mostly just like him for that line he said to the kid about butt fucking his dad or whatever.

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« Reply #70 on: July 06, 2015, 09:41:24 PM »
Maybe I'll just rewatch the first season and wait to the end to see if this one is worth finishing
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« Reply #71 on: July 06, 2015, 10:47:33 PM »
Yeah I'm just not seeing it for Farrell like the rest of you. Just a lot of stern watery eyed stares and quivering.

Honestly he's the only of the four leads that hasn't been boring for me so far. Not sure if I really even care about the character that much tho. I mostly just like him for that line he said to the kid about butt fucking his dad or whatever.

I think Rachel Adams and Colin Farrell are the two best actors of the bunch therefore I tend to relate to their characters more even if I'm not especially sympathetic towards their characters.

The gay cop guy, seems like an okay actor but the dialogue and character he has been given suck.

Vince Vaugh is "okay" for me in the quiet scenes but in anything where his emotion has to rise, it feels like he's doing a bad sopranos impression for me. I just don't buy it.

Gandolfini was an actor who felt like he had anger behind his eyes and menance constantly just lurking beneath the surface. Vaugh for me always feels like I'm watching somebody acting pretending to be a gangster.

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« Reply #72 on: July 06, 2015, 11:39:09 PM »
I really hate how little they're giving McAdams and Kitsch. Like we know so much about Farrell's character and almost nothing about anyone else.

I think Vince Vaughn's character has received the second most depth, but like his acting is as painfully bad as the guy who played Kingpin in Daredevil that I just want his scenes to be over with as soon as possible.
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« Reply #73 on: July 06, 2015, 11:56:55 PM »
Compare how hard season 1 was firing at this point to this crap and :brazilcry

They went from Lost S1 to Lost S6 in one season, complete with people desperately wanting to believe that the end will be good, just wait!  :noah
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« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2015, 02:37:21 AM »
I really hate how little they're giving McAdams and Kitsch. Like we know so much about Farrell's character and almost nothing about anyone else.

I think Vince Vaughn's character has received the second most depth, but like his acting is as painfully bad as the guy who played Kingpin in Daredevil that I just want his scenes to be over with as soon as possible.
You take that back. Fisk is great.

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« Reply #75 on: July 07, 2015, 02:40:53 AM »
I really hate how little they're giving McAdams and Kitsch. Like we know so much about Farrell's character and almost nothing about anyone else.

I think Vince Vaughn's character has received the second most depth, but like his acting is as painfully bad as the guy who played Kingpin in Daredevil that I just want his scenes to be over with as soon as possible.
You take that back. Fisk is great.

He sounded like an autistic man baby with severe constipation every time he spoke.
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« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2015, 02:47:21 AM »
I really hate how little they're giving McAdams and Kitsch. Like we know so much about Farrell's character and almost nothing about anyone else.

I think Vince Vaughn's character has received the second most depth, but like his acting is as painfully bad as the guy who played Kingpin in Daredevil that I just want his scenes to be over with as soon as possible.
You take that back. Fisk is great.

He sounded like an autistic man baby with severe constipation every time he spoke.
That was the whole point.

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« Reply #77 on: July 07, 2015, 11:24:03 AM »
I can't fuck with any of the music in this season brehs.
So far this is a downer all over for me.
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« Reply #78 on: July 07, 2015, 12:23:18 PM »
Compare how hard season 1 was firing at this point to this crap and :brazilcry

They went from Lost S1 to Lost S6 in one season, complete with people desperately wanting to believe that the end will be good, just wait!  :noah
If the quality of the season follows last season we're in for one hell of shitty ending to the show :-X
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« Reply #79 on: July 07, 2015, 09:06:28 PM »
I can't fuck with any of the music in this season brehs.
So far this is a downer all over for me.

This is like the one thing I like about this season. It made me look up Lera Lynn. Her two albums on Spotify are fucking great.
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« Reply #80 on: July 08, 2015, 01:12:44 AM »
I really hate how little they're giving McAdams and Kitsch. Like we know so much about Farrell's character and almost nothing about anyone else.

I think Vince Vaughn's character has received the second most depth, but like his acting is as painfully bad as the guy who played Kingpin in Daredevil that I just want his scenes to be over with as soon as possible.
You take that back. Fisk is great.

He sounded like an autistic man baby with severe constipation every time he spoke.
That was the whole point.

It's not a terrible comparison, but the key difference is that Vincent D'Onofrio is intentionally telegraphing an over-the-top/kitschy performance. Vince Vaughn has a similar performance, but it's because he's so outside of his range. The dialogue he's delivering is pretty generic tough-guy shit, but he comes off like that fake bully in middle school who everyone just laughed.

"don't take the rings off, it won't matter" like lol why would anyone buy the idea that this guy has the gaul to hold his own against this guy? So this gladhanding, political-palm-greasing casino impresario has also been getting in streetfights for long enough that he has no doubt he can take a guy with 100~ lbs on him? Every time he mentions his 'people' he's assuring someone that they weren't party whatever heinous action he's discussing, so it's safe to assume his crew is pussy too.

That said, I've had my expectations for this season set pretty low and I'm probably enjoying it more than most. I dig the 'creepy la' tone of the show. The dialogue is really awful though.

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« Reply #81 on: July 08, 2015, 01:18:36 AM »
Show has two big problems right now imo:

1. Overcasting. Too many top billed people, we're spending too much time establishing their characters. Hopefully this becomes less of an issue as time goes on. Pairing up the cop leads will hopefully make that work.

2. Vince Vaughn is just horribly miscast. That part is not badly written, he's just out of his element and isn't capable of delivering the performance the role needs.
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« Reply #82 on: July 12, 2015, 11:53:37 PM »
Best episode of the season. Finally starting to unravel the mystery, although they're telegraphing that the "cult" angle is going to play into it big time.

...Vaughn still remains the weak link of the show, though.
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« Reply #83 on: July 12, 2015, 11:57:00 PM »
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« Reply #84 on: July 13, 2015, 01:38:44 AM »
Man this show totally fell off the wagon with ep3 & ep4.  Most of the style is gone, most of the Lynch-isms are gone (outside the beginning of ep3), too much time is wasted on Vaughn shaking down old contacts one by one, the murder mystery is going nowhere and has become completely uninteresting since the high point at the end of ep2 when the snuff/porn house was discovered + hotline miami man.

And then ep4 ends with a 10 minute pointless shootout against a gang that obviously has absolutely jack shit to do with the murder mystery (only possible interesting thing could be that the Mayor set them up against a meth house hoping they'd all get killed) just to have some big "bang, bang" shooting action.  Oh and every.single.agent dies except the 3 with plot armor lol.

Writing is pretty bad, directing is boring since Lin left, show is just going nowhere for the last 2 eps and only 4 eps left.  It really better bring it for the 2nd half. 

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« Reply #85 on: July 13, 2015, 01:49:45 AM »
Could that last sequence have been any more ridiculous?
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« Reply #86 on: July 13, 2015, 01:58:17 AM »
Yeah, I sort of felt like it was trying to replicate a big mid-season action sequence like that...except that in doing so it just makes it look so, so bad compared to that amazing S1 sequence.

While I blame the writing of course, for stuff like that I seriously think the lack of a great director with a single vision for the whole season is hurting them bad.  I thought ep1/2 while not being as good as S1, were still very well directed with a healthy amount of style thanks to Justin Lin being a good director.  From Ep3 on, we seem to be getting single ep directed episodes from less skilled directors and it really hurts the style.


I don't watch a ton of TV shows, so I don't really understand why for 8-13 ep shows you can't have a single director direct all the episodes.  I mean the same cast is working on all the eps in a row, and sometimes like here the same writer doing the script, and most of the same technical crew, why can't the director be there all the days for the whole thing either?  I mean it can happen like S1.  But it just seems so rare in TV and it ends up making shows feel very inconsistent in style between episodes.  For mini-series especially that are contained to 1 season, they should just get one good director to do all the eps.

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« Reply #87 on: July 13, 2015, 02:29:48 AM »
So apparently the director of this ep, Jeremy Podeswa, directed the Sand Snakes fight episode of Game of Thrones last season that everyone made fun of and there were tons of youtube clips of the lame fight.  Yeah, maybe he was not the guy to do the ep with the big shoot out.

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« Reply #88 on: July 13, 2015, 02:44:35 AM »
If Fargo season 2 ends up sucking this will be one sweepingly disappointing season of cable dramas.  :-\
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« Reply #89 on: July 13, 2015, 03:25:52 AM »
The freeze frame was fucking hilarious

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« Reply #90 on: July 13, 2015, 04:39:34 AM »
That whole last action sequence was so dumb. Even enemies in GTA have to reload.
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« Reply #91 on: July 13, 2015, 10:52:17 AM »
Series low. The shootout was pretty dumb on a few counts, but at least it got the blood pumping. The rest of the episode was completely boring and unending. I'd be dropping this if it wasn't like the only notable thing on TV at the moment, aside from Hannibal.
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« Reply #92 on: July 13, 2015, 10:59:49 AM »
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I can't keep watching this show, sorry.
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« Reply #93 on: July 13, 2015, 11:08:20 AM »
The only credit I'll give the shootout is that the questionable direction really highlighting how much of a clusterfuck the thing was. I'm guessing McAdams' character will be blamed for the fuck up; this is the second time she's led a botched operation. I definitely think they were set up though, possibly by the mayor.

Overall the episode was marred by bad delivery of dialogue. The dialogue itself wasn't good but I wouldn't have really noticed it if it was delivered decently. Vaugn is HORRIBLE, his wife/gf isn't much better. There's just very little of interest here. I like McAdams but character wise she isn't given much compared to the other two. Kitsh's character gets worse the more we see of him. Ferrell is interesting...but I still feel like the character could be played better. He's gone from burnout to more sober...yet there isn't much of a difference in terms of his characterization/behavior.

Overall there's just too much self loathing and brooding. Episode 2 was great, but these last two have been average (#4) to bad (#3)
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« Reply #94 on: July 13, 2015, 12:18:28 PM »
They were definitely set up. No way that op could have gone worse

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« Reply #95 on: July 13, 2015, 12:24:52 PM »
Those three haven't done a lot of asking "why" about shit yet. Why was Caspere's body left somewhere it would definitely be found? Why would they be set up? Who would do that to them? Hopefully they start asking tougher questions now. I bet the Caspere thing will be declared closed, Ani will be suspended, a deal cut to get the state in on some more of the Vinci corruption money, and Ani, Ray and I guess boring closeted idiot cop will continue working it in search of redemption or whatever. Season is ok, but clearly doesn't live up to the first one.
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« Reply #96 on: July 13, 2015, 05:32:59 PM »
SAD DETECTIVES

Seriously, 45 fucking minutes of bullshit character development, like 2 seconds of, yeah, we know her dad and the new agey cult/weird doctor are involved, and then the world's slowest suv chase scene.  This is pretty bad.  Also welcome back TVC.
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« Reply #97 on: July 13, 2015, 06:07:47 PM »
Have there been any shows where the season mostly sucks but ends really strong?

For True Detective, since its a anthology series, the better question would have there been shows in their entirety that have sucked (season 2 TD alone) and then ended strong?
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« Reply #98 on: July 13, 2015, 06:30:42 PM »
The only way to save this show is for it to stop fucking dedicating half the screen time to Vince Vaughn.
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« Reply #99 on: July 13, 2015, 06:32:54 PM »
While I enjoyed the last episode more than most people, I still think this season is basically fucked- the problems with it are structural ones and I'm not sure they can possibly be overcome. Hoping it gets a 3rd season to try to rebound, because I really like the anthology series format but hate the fuck out of horror, so AHS is not something I'm going to watch.
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« Reply #100 on: July 13, 2015, 07:31:40 PM »
Have there been any shows where the season mostly sucks but ends really strong?

For True Detective, since its a anthology series, the better question would have there been shows in their entirety that have sucked (season 2 TD alone) and then ended strong?

The Office final season was fucking awful 80% of the time but I think they killed it at the end.
But I mean likewise we got shit like Dexter that was GOAT for the longest before it basically hit a wall and exploded spectacularly.
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« Reply #101 on: July 13, 2015, 07:43:23 PM »
Yea HBO has been pretty quick about renewing shows lately, however no word on S3...hmmm. I doubt they're particularly enamored with Pizzaman, who seems difficult to work with.
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« Reply #102 on: July 13, 2015, 09:03:44 PM »
is this gonna be one of those shows that sucks a lot?

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« Reply #104 on: July 13, 2015, 10:29:08 PM »
it's just really boring.  if it were scheduled for more than 8 episodes I would've dropped it already.

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« Reply #105 on: July 13, 2015, 11:14:51 PM »
I'm not dropping it but I'm reconsidering my decision to watch it as it airs. It might end up like Homeland S2/later Downton Abbey seasons on my "I'll watch it before next Sunday" list.
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« Reply #106 on: July 14, 2015, 12:14:17 AM »
I'm going to keep watching, I mean shit I'm still watching Graceland so you know I'm a glutton for punishment.

My take on the problems this season:

Too many main characters. Last season we had 2 and they split time fairly evenly and they split time fairly evenly between their personal demons and the case. This season we have FOUR and so far the screen time has gone Farrell>Vaughn>Kitsch>McAdams. The problem with this is that Vaughn is in over his head in terms of acting on this one and Kitsch's character is so poorly written I don't want to see him on screen.

Secondly the balance between the case and the characters personal demons is out of whack. Vaughn is doing more legwork and more questioning on this case than anyone else. Now look I *think* the idea here is supposed to be that he has the most to lose on this one so obviously he's the most invested, while Farrell and McAdams are both more interested in battling their personal demon's and the state's investigation into Vinci than the actual case. But like early on Farrell figures out that they're probably NOT expected to solve this and instead of deciding this is enough to make him want to solve it, he just keep bumbling along. It seems like they've tried to set up him wanting to solve this as redemption or something but again it hasn't been executed.

Taylor Kitsch. I can't even remember why his character is on this case other than he discovered the body. He clearly doesn't have detective skills and he seems even less interested in the case than everyone else, he just seems to want to go around looking like he needs to shit all the time.

So many side characters. I'm sure some are their as Red Herrings (Farrell's partner who got head shotted) and others maybe not (Vaughn's assistant guy who got demoted to pit boss) but like this show is already crowded as fuck and it feels like ultimately a lot of these characters will end up being useless.

I also kind of feel like this show is suffering from the same thing that bugs me about the Game of Thrones show, every scene just seems so short before they jump to the next characters/location. Like a weird stage play or a clip show or something, I dunno.

I almost wish they had killed Colin Farrell just so the other characters could do something.
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« Reply #107 on: July 14, 2015, 01:57:25 PM »
Just got around to watching the episode. I thought it was an ok episode. By that I mean I think its been like most of the season. It was an up and down episode. Better than the awful episode last week but still very inconsistent. There will be a good scene followed up by an awful scene followed up by a mediocre sign, etc. There is stuff I like when I watch an episode. I don't think the show is awful television by any stretch. But it absolutely dips and at times it is awful.

Overall there's just too much self loathing and brooding.

I think is one of the real cruxes of the issue. I know its annoying to do and I don't think everything should just be a comparsion to the first season to beat up the second season but some of the problems were just elegantly solved in season 1 so its relevant.

Everyone is brooding and self loathing. And you can get away with that in a 2 hour film noir movie. But the longer it goes, the more it just seems to feel disconnected from the real world. Sometimes it feels like characters are trying to deliver Shakesperian dialogue about their enui towards the human condition. And some of that has always been in noir but its a fine line you have to tread within that universe. I remember not liking Brick for the very same reasons.

So in Season 1 you had Cohle who was as broody and angsty as anyone in season 2. He was a fascinating character but he was perfectly counter balanced by Martin who wasn't that kind of character. He was a much more grounded character. Flawed but grounded. So he was this perfect counter measure to Cohle. Whenever the story got too existential, Martin was there to ground it. Whenever it got too grounded, Cohle was there to make it about something bigger. And the perfect balance is that it never dips into either situation for too long.

This story has no successful grounding anchor. The characters are all self loathing and brooding. Instead of a character, the grounding part is supposed to be their personal lives.  With the gay guy, its supposed to be his battle against being gay. With Velcoro, its supposed to be his son. With Rachel McAdams its her family stuff and her relationships. With Frank, its having a kid I guess and losing control. But its just hard to care about that stuff with how this show is constructed. All that stuff just feels like annoying distracting side stuff when it comes up instead of interesting stuff to flesh out the characters. I feel like its treated like shit to get out of the way just to get back to the actual reason we are here which is the case.

I know some people didn't care about the family shit in the first season and I can get that but even if that part of it didn't work for you, the two big characters themselves still served the same purpose. They were the ying and yang.
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« Reply #108 on: July 15, 2015, 12:04:43 AM »
Just got around to watching the episode. I thought it was an ok episode. By that I mean I think its been like most of the season. It was an up and down episode. Better than the awful episode last week but still very inconsistent. There will be a good scene followed up by an awful scene followed up by a mediocre sign, etc. There is stuff I like when I watch an episode. I don't think the show is awful television by any stretch. But it absolutely dips and at times it is awful.

Overall there's just too much self loathing and brooding.

I think is one of the real cruxes of the issue. I know its annoying to do and I don't think everything should just be a comparsion to the first season to beat up the second season but some of the problems were just elegantly solved in season 1 so its relevant.

Everyone is brooding and self loathing. And you can get away with that in a 2 hour film noir movie. But the longer it goes, the more it just seems to feel disconnected from the real world. Sometimes it feels like characters are trying to deliver Shakesperian dialogue about their enui towards the human condition. And some of that has always been in noir but its a fine line you have to tread within that universe. I remember not liking Brick for the very same reasons.

So in Season 1 you had Cohle who was as broody and angsty as anyone in season 2. He was a fascinating character but he was perfectly counter balanced by Martin who wasn't that kind of character. He was a much more grounded character. Flawed but grounded. So he was this perfect counter measure to Cohle. Whenever the story got too existential, Martin was there to ground it. Whenever it got too grounded, Cohle was there to make it about something bigger. And the perfect balance is that it never dips into either situation for too long.

This story has no successful grounding anchor. The characters are all self loathing and brooding. Instead of a character, the grounding part is supposed to be their personal lives.  With the gay guy, its supposed to be his battle against being gay. With Velcoro, its supposed to be his son. With Rachel McAdams its her family stuff and her relationships. With Frank, its having a kid I guess and losing control. But its just hard to care about that stuff with how this show is constructed. All that stuff just feels like annoying distracting side stuff when it comes up instead of interesting stuff to flesh out the characters. I feel like its treated like shit to get out of the way just to get back to the actual reason we are here which is the case.

I know some people didn't care about the family shit in the first season and I can get that but even if that part of it didn't work for you, the two big characters themselves still served the same purpose. They were the ying and yang.

It feels like every episode fucking Vince Vaughn has some completely not based in reality monologue about this shit. And then his wife always just gives him the most dumb founded buck tooth look.
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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #109 on: July 20, 2015, 12:50:25 AM »
GUYS THE PLOT TWIST EVERYONE SAW COMING IN THE FIRST EPISODE FINALLY PAID OFF
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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #110 on: July 20, 2015, 01:34:07 AM »
So, for a show where everyone is complaining that nothing's happening and hoping the 2nd half is where it takes off, having a time skip and then essentially an episode 1 - take 2 slow setting up of the story again for 40 mins was probably not the best idea. 

The last 15 minutes were fine and things are finally starting to move again on the investigation after nothing since ep2 really, but it felt like a waste of most of the ep starting all over and having to setup the plotlines again.  At least hopefully things are moving now and starting next ep if we're lucky the eps should be moving towards some point.

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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #111 on: July 20, 2015, 01:41:03 AM »
Feeling really good about holding off on watching this live and then marathoning all ten eps on a lazy weekend.

Bebpo

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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #112 on: July 20, 2015, 01:50:13 AM »
Yeah, I'd enjoy this show more watching it all together because every ep makes you want to see the next because nothing interesting really happens and you want to see if maybe the next ep is when something interesting will happen.

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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #113 on: July 20, 2015, 01:51:55 AM »
Feeling really good about holding off on watching this live and then marathoning all ten eps on a lazy weekend.
This'll be me as well.

bluemax

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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #114 on: July 20, 2015, 03:14:27 AM »
"Never too late to start all over again."

Holy fucking shit I can't believe that was an actual line in tonight's episode. What a slap in the face.
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BobFromPikeCreek

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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #115 on: July 20, 2015, 03:17:20 AM »
Fuck this show. Three to go so I'll probably just keep going, but man. What even is this. Please learn something from this, Pizzaman.
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Barry Egan

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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #116 on: July 20, 2015, 08:14:17 AM »
blue balls of the heart.

Stoney Mason

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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #117 on: July 20, 2015, 06:50:15 PM »
Watched latest episode. As usual it was meh for me and another mess of an episode. Honestly, if I could magically  know what I knew going in, I wouldn't have watched this season. I'll finish it up, but I won't watch Season 3 unless I hear its excellent.

I don't think its an awful show. I just don't find it to be especially entertaining nor do I overly care how things turn out. There are other shows/movies I would rather be spending my time with.

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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #118 on: July 20, 2015, 06:59:21 PM »
That felt like it was supposed to be the second episode of the season.  I fact with just a few minor tweaks it could have been the second episode, given that we learned as much in that as the entire 4 episodes preceding it.  It feels like (and probably is) a rushed first draft.
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bluemax

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Re: True Detective season 2
« Reply #119 on: July 21, 2015, 03:33:36 AM »
These last 3 episodes are going to be the most amazing train wreck ever.
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