There's something I need to get off my chest

[Purrp Skirrp]

I go back and forth on its importance.

It's not a big deal being a virgin but at the same time it's concerning to never experience something so basic and integral to humanity.

Like Rahx is still going to be fucked up after he manages to fuck someone yet I think he thinks it's going to fix his problems.

He's propping sex up as some be all end all for life's problems when it's simply one of its few pleasures.

[Human Snorenado]

Dude, I could be balls deep in dude ass in 5 minutes if I wanted here in Atlanta. Bears are in season, just saying.

[recursivelyenumerable]

yes but humanity is fundamentally broken sooo ...

but yes for the most part the only thing i got out of finally experiencing sex was the realization that it didn't actually solve or change anything. and now that I've told you that, you already know so no need to bother with sex. at least until you've migrated to the new model.

[Rahxephon91]

I go back and forth on its importance.

It's not a big deal being a virgin but at the same time it's concerning to never experience something so basic and integral to humanity.

Like Rahx is still going to be fucked up after he manages to fuck someone yet I think he thinks it's going to fix his problems.

He's propping sex up as some be all end all for life's problems when it's simply one of its few pleasures.

It's like you idiots can't read. I've already had sex, plenty of times. My entire point was that it didn't fix anything. One of the reasons it didn't help was that it didn't help fix the underlying problems and using escorts was a reason it did'nt help. It's not a matter of holding it up as the be all end all, I was saying it should at least be treated with some respect and not some pointless thing. But I'm sorry I guess escorts are all the rage now.

[Purrp Skirrp]

Consensual sex has enough implied respect to it. Rape on the other hand, is very disrespectful

Casual sex vs. the intimate kind you get in a relationship. Whatever, neither are going to fix you.

Seems like you're hellbent on companionship, but it's not something you're entitled to just for existing.

What are you bringing to the table in a relationship other than self-loathing (which isn't even unique in and of itself)?

[thisismyusername]

Virgins, what were ya'll doing in high school? 4 years to make something happen.

Introverts, breh. Sorry, only registered users can see this content. Please Login or Register.

Point is, while some people live it up as a teen comedy, some of us go through some REALLY bad shit (hi, Kara! <3) during the time and just want to be left alone. *shrug* Know that doesn't fit the entire answer you're looking for, but screw it. It's 2:30 and I'm tired and about to head to bed.

@Atra: Shaka is mostly right. If you are charming as hell, you can knock the pants off most anyone on your level or below. Hell, if you're extremely charming you can pretty much blow the pants off some out of your league people a la Bond films. I've done it on various services, some old some new and some in reality. Point is, if you want to solve your problem the first step is to get out (or go online) and talk people up. Don't mention your crazy religious upbringing (which I don't think you would) or some of your weird stuff (which I hope you wouldn't) and just ask them questions about themselves and make (GOOD) jokes about some observations from that. It should be enough from there to start to push toward "hey wanna have sex" without outright saying that.

[Rahxephon91]

Consensual sex has enough implied respect to it. Rape on the other hand, is very disrespectful

Well there's room to argue about sex under the influence and paying for it is arguably cold and arguably unhelpful in certain areas. Which is the entire reason I argued against that advice.

Casual sex vs. the intimate kind you get in a relationship. Whatever, neither are going to fix you.

Fix me from what? You make a lot of assumptions about someone you don't actually know. Hell this is the first time I've even seen you. Either way, whatever I'm after has little to do with what I said in regards to art, so why it's coming up I don't know. All I said is doing it with escorts may not be beneficial. Which is'nt even that far removed from what other's said in regards to it still leaving you at square one. Hell, when I brought up using escorts before people ridiculed me and said I was pathetic to do so. Why the change now?

Seems like you're hellbent on companionship, but it's not something you're entitled to just for existing.

I'm not hellbent on anything, which is why I'm unsure you're trying to tell me anything about me. I did'nt say I deserved anything, so where's this coming from?

What are you bringing to the table in a relationship other than self-loathing (which isn't even unique in and of itself)?

I don't bring anything and never will, hence I'm not in one and not trying to be in one. Again, why is this even being brought up?

[Phoenix Dark]

PM time.

[recursivelyenumerable]

paying for sex sounds  tho. meaningless one-time hookups with casual acquaintances all the way

[Phoenix Dark]

Rahx you've made it clear you have no interest in bettering yourself socially or physically, so what do you expect? Most of the responses here assume you're at a dead end, and the only way you can get steady action is with an escort. No offense, that's just the impression you've created over the years. You say you've had sex many times but I have to wonder how many of those times involved a chick who wanted to bang you, instead of the weird scenario you gave us earlier about the Vietnamese chick.

[Purrp Skirrp]

Most of the responses here assume you're at a dead end, and the only way you can get steady action is with an escort. No offense, that's just the impression you've created over the years.

Rahx, I only "know" you from lurking the relationships thread so my bad if I got the idea you're some virgin who fixates on getting a GF.

[nudemacusers]

paying for sex sounds  tho. meaningless one-time hookups with casual acquaintances all the way

we all pay for sex

sometimes financially

sometimes physically

sometimes emotionally

and sometimes in a bothell dumpster

[Purrp Skirrp]

Introverts, breh.

Point is, while some people live it up as a teen comedy, some of us go through some REALLY bad shit (hi, Kara! <3) during the time and just want to be left alone. *shrug* Know that doesn't fit the entire answer you're looking for, but screw it. It's 2:30 and I'm tired and about to head to bed.

I can relate to that.

I'm use to masquerading as an extrovert and acting like things are all good. That came to a head some point in college and coincides with my longest dry spell.

[Rahxephon91]

Rahx you've made it clear you have no interest in bettering yourself socially or physically, so what do you expect?

What do you mean "what do I expect". I don't expect anything and I deal with that.

Most of the responses here assume you're at a dead end, and the only way you can get steady action is with an escort. No offense, that's just the impression you've created over the years.

And I already admitted that so I don't know why there would be any assumptions. Yet, that's why I said I don't think escorts are a good idea. I'm speaking from my own experience. Art seems to lack confidence, fucking an escort is'nt going to help. I'm not saying sex will "fix" as if it's some magic wand that will automatically change everything with one swoosh. I'm saying having sex by other means will no doubt prove to at least further a long a "fix".More so then paying to fuck an escort would because obviously I speak from experience. That's been my entire point here. Hell, if he'd use tinder and get successful hits no doubt that would improve him and I'm saying those are better.

You say you've had sex many times but I have to wonder how many of those times involved a chick who wanted to bang you, instead of the weird scenario you gave us earlier about the Vietnamese chick.

None and that's they aren't as satisfying.

Most of the responses here assume you're at a dead end, and the only way you can get steady action is with an escort. No offense, that's just the impression you've created over the years.

Rahx, I only "know" you from lurking the relationships thread so my bad if I got the idea you're some virgin who fixates on getting a GF.
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Fixating on getting a GF wouldn't just have to do with sex which is another issue though...And I was but at this point it dosen't matter and I just have to make due with other things. I've already been told I don't deserve it and I don't have anything worthwhile for women unless I apprantly become someone else so well to hell with that. Some people are'nt just meant to have those kind of relationships. I made it to 25 without one, so well life only gets busier. I can make it much longer I'm sure. If it has'nt happen yet it won't and I already missed important milestones anyway.

Also those posts already mentioned that I wasn't a virgin.

[recursivelyenumerable]

Real talk: the only thing i really like about hookups is getting to experience women's apartments, the more idiosyncratic the better. There is this bizarre intense energy inside single women's apartments i find incredibly fascinating and thrilling - i love the feeling like she's caught me and dragged me into her alien lair.  this is actually only getting better as the women get older.

[Kara]

paying for sex sounds  tho. meaningless one-time hookups with casual acquaintances all the way

It's kind of an adjustment.

E: and hi! TIMU.

[Himu]

rahx post a pic so i can evaluate you. a lot of the stuff you say gives off a self hate vibe and i don't understand why. lemme help you out. things like "i hate my hair" doesn't sound good. I personally would never be attracted to a man who has such a low image of himself. I'm sure the girls can smell that low confidence like a skunk, because if memory serves, you're pretty cute.

atra: so what are you considering your v-card? sticking it in? you haven't sucked boobs or eat a pussy out? may be unorthodox, but i don't really place virginity on a pedastal and I consider even giving oral to be sex. So depending on the definition of virginity, imo you may not even be a virgin.

imo, you shouldn't sweat it. people place virginity on a pedestal. i lost my virginity at 19 with a woman but never really liked sex until i did it with a man. also, sex doesn't necessarily mean a good relationship. the worst ones are ones that are based entirely around sex and nothing else. a lot of people put the v-card on a pedestal but sometimes things happen beyond "that guy is a loser" as seen in movies. sometimes you just haven't found the right person yet. I wouldn't blame anyone for that. I remember boogie here was a virgin till he was like 25 mostly because he wanted to find someone he cared about first. alternatively, I know a guy who lost his virginity at 27. He could have had sex multiple times in the past, but it never felt right to him so he just didn't go for it.

Don't sweat it, virginity is just a label that many americans hold on to in order to make themselves superior to others.

Don't buy an escort. That stuff is nasty, and it wouldn't even be the full experience either. You wouldn't (and shouldn't) put her vagoo in your mouth and suck her clit, so what's the point to fucking her if you can't even do that? Sounds like a burger without bread. Rather than feel sorry for youself because of some stupid ass label society (and you for that matter) has placed upon yourself, look to people like Fistful for inspiration. That guy tried to get out of his comfort zone. He started going on dates, and before you know it, he's got a girlfriend and moving with her to nyc. You just need some confidence in yourself is all.

[Himu]

"A few days ago I picked up some Burger King and the guy said "enjoy your meal." We all know he should have said "good luck man, you should have gone to Taco Bell" but I let it slide. "

newsfeed

Virgins, what were ya'll doing in high school? 4 years to make something happen.

I was 16 and felt like I waited too long. No slut shaming, this chick went Ivy League and makes me so proud to have played a pivotal role in her life


Hell, even heard about shit popping off in middle school, like this kid Danny getting a BJ on the Condor during our 8th grade field trip.

Not living those years like you're the star of a wacky teen comedy

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those were the years when i didn't know if I was bi or not so I decided to not pursue anyone and instead focused on teaching myself photoshop and playing video games. short version of what username said.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Virgins, what were ya'll doing in high school? 4 years to make something happen.

I got zero interest from girls in high school.  Around junior year, I decided to write them off and just focused on having a good time with friends.  I guess I never really tried to pursue anything in high school.  No regrets though because I was perpetually broke (even though I worked two jobs for most of my time) and when I wasn't spending time with friends, working, or working out, I wanted to play vidya and go on GAF (not NeoGAF, this was 2000-2003).  Living out in the middle of nowhere didn't help things either.

I lost my virginity at 19.  In hindsight, that was the right age for me to lose it so #noragrets

[Atramental]

Virgins, what were ya'll doing in high school? 4 years to make something happen.

I went to a religious high school and I myself was very religious up until I graduated from high school and went to BJU.

Also, my self hatred was very strong during that time. I was never suicidal but man I did not like who I was at all. It's hard to convince someone else to like you when you think you're the worst and don't really deserve to be happy.

[El Babua]

Didn't you tell us that you lost it to a chubby chick a few years ago?

You were lying?

IIRC he had a bet going with a handful of NeoGAF members when he first told that story. Cash was involved. He was gonna pay out if he couldn't turn in the v-card by the end of the year. 

dry snitching



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Whose to say there aren't members of this very forum who in light of this news, are now entitled to a cash payment?

[studyguy]

First chick I fucked was so afraid of pregnancy she asked me to wear two condoms and was seriously considering me sticking it in her ass.
Now I was green as shit at the whole prospect of dicking any girl down, so quite frankly she could have told me to do most anything naked and probably would have gone through with it. I actually lit candles and shit brehs, I was ready to renovate my room to whatever made this chick more willing to get naked. Move mountains and shit.

Instead I ended up using a single condom, sticking that shit in and nutting almost immediately after a couple thrusts.
Probably lucky I didn't nut the moment her drawers dropped at my age.



Probably the single most awkward moment of having sex and I've done some grimey, savage shit while fucking I'm none to proud of since.
I was like, let me throw on another condom but she was like


We broke up not too long after that. I could have developed a complex about it but nah. That was during the summer entering sophomore year in high school. In retrospect it was probably good to get the idealistic shit out of the way. I look back and cringe on that shit, but I mean whatever homie. Still had sex.

[Kara]

Don't buy an escort. That stuff is nasty, and it wouldn't even be the full experience either. You wouldn't (and shouldn't) put her vagoo in your mouth and suck her clit, so what's the point to fucking her if you can't even do that? Sounds like a burger without bread.

I trust someone whose body is their (hopefully temporary) livelihood to be more responsible with their body (and mine) than your average iniquitous soul in the living hell that is the Southland. I trust no one outside business relationships and few within them--people are profoundly disappointing.

[Positive Touch]

guys rahx isn't looking for casual sex, he's looking for a waifu who will carefully tend to his broken emotions and fulfill his every hentai-related fantasy

*provided she is a pure of heart blonde haired blue eyed virgin

[Madrun Badrun]

Aint we all looking for that?  Some of us just give up sooner than others.

[studyguy]

She just needs to be an by day
and a  in the sheets

[Madrun Badrun]

You mean you need an anime girl beard to cover your desire for black dudes?  Aint we all looking for that too?

[king of the internet]

Right now I'm focusing on finding one of those girls who thinks they can fix deeply troubled guys 

[studyguy]

You mean you need an anime girl beard to cover your desire for black dudes?  Aint we all looking for that too?

 

[Rahxephon91]

guys rahx isn't looking for casual sex, he's looking for a waifu who will carefully tend to his broken emotions and fulfill his every hentai-related fantasy

*provided she is a pure of heart blonde haired blue eyed virgin

You can say a lot about me but this is certainly false. It's like you people don't actually pay attention to what I say. I despise the waifu and moe garbage and I'm certainly not looking for anyone like what your describing. I'm not one of those people.

[Shaka Khan]

back when I was young and cute I admit to a few instances of leading gay dudes on a bit for the ego validation. I am a horrible person 

tho when I told one boi I was straight (which I finally felt obligated to do as he had started stroking my thigh) he told me "but ... that makes you like the only straight person I can stand" which was kind of sweet

I can attest that you had a vibe. Like when we hung out at the wine place, you began coming across as this fluid, bi-curious, math-genius, tortured, Cobain look-alike. Made me go

[Barry Egan]

You can say a lot about me but this is certainly false. It's like you people don't actually pay attention to what I say. I despise the waifu and moe garbage and I'm certainly not looking for anyone like what your describing. I'm not one of those people.

we would be extremely naive if we only paid attention to what you say.  I can only speak personally, but alot of your attitudes remind me of myself when I was a bitter high-school student, so I can recognize how much of your perspective stems from immature feelings that you eventually grow out of.  I imagine more than a few posters come from that position as well.  If you're ever going to get the help you need, you're going to have to start from the premise that other people might recognize things in you that you yourself are unaware of. 

[Rahxephon91]

You can say a lot about me but this is certainly false. It's like you people don't actually pay attention to what I say. I despise the waifu and moe garbage and I'm certainly not looking for anyone like what your describing. I'm not one of those people.

we would be extremely naive if we only paid attention to what you say.  I can only speak personally, but alot of your attitudes remind me of myself when I was a bitter high-school student, so I can recognize how much of your perspective stems from immature feelings that you eventually grow out of.  I imagine more than a few posters come from that position as well.  If you're ever going to get the help you need, you're going to have to start from the premise that other people might recognize things in you that you yourself are unaware of.

Ok that's all nice and good, but that dosen't make Big Jumbo's post any more correct. It's wrong every level and dosen't at all represent myself. it just comes from a "I want to bash you" school of thought and it's hard to separate any post you people make from that bias.

[Himu]

Post a pic and your problems, Rah. Fuck. Let people help you.

[Shaka Khan]

"Post pics so we can evaluate you"?

That's sorta offensive. Don't post pics, Rah. You don't need need to be validated based on looks. You need better social skills and therapy. It's been said time and again.

[Phoenix Dark]

He doesn't look bad. Passable mixed person, skinny frame, unkempt hair but chicks fux with that.

[Himu]

That's the reason I want to see the pic. He said he hates his hair. I bet he doesn't know how to work it right.  Especially if he is mixed.

[studyguy]

You can look average and still fuck lets be real.
As long as he doesn't look like the dude out of Mask, he'll be alright.

[brawndolicious]

"Post pics so we can evaluate you"?

That's sorta offensive. Don't post pics, Rah. You don't need need to be validated based on looks. You need better social skills and therapy. It's been said time and again.

This.

Looks don't mean shit if you're lacking in fundamental social skills. Speaking from experience brehs.

What does that mean exactly in your case? Is it due to fear?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Post a pic and your problems, Rah. Fuck. Let people help you.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=8429.msg2010798#msg2010798

[Human Snorenado]

Don't buy an escort. That stuff is nasty, and it wouldn't even be the full experience either. You wouldn't (and shouldn't) put her vagoo in your mouth and suck her clit, so what's the point to fucking her if you can't even do that? Sounds like a burger without bread.

I trust someone whose body is their (hopefully temporary) livelihood to be more responsible with their body (and mine) than your average iniquitous soul in the living hell that is the Southland. I trust no one outside business relationships and few within them--people are profoundly disappointing.

"people are profoundly disappointing" is my battle cry

[Himu]

Alright thanks texp, now what's wrong with Rah socially?

[Shaka Khan]

Weren't you here for the epic, drunken, racist rambling, himu?

[VomKriege]

"Post pics so we can evaluate you"?

That's sorta offensive. Don't post pics, Rah. You don't need need to be validated based on looks. You need better social skills and therapy. It's been said time and again.

This.

Looks don't mean shit if you're lacking in fundamental social skills. Speaking from experience brehs.

Well, your social skills ain't gonna get any better by weeping on the net.
You need to get your feet wet and actually engage people. Sure you'll probably be awkward and get some burns the first few times, but that's part of the game. Also, lack of confidence in one's social skills is extremely common, even among what you may consider "normal" people, so don't sweat like a pig on the issue, no need to feel a freak because of that.

[VomKriege]

How is acknowledging social skills > looks = weeping on the net? Learn2stop projecting brehs.

Maybe you were not "weeping" in this particular instance. I'm not really trying to rip you or anything.
Point is social skill is something you can work upon and not some unmovable obstacle (like it sometimes sounds like it is in those conversations). We can ping pong for posts and posts about it but it will not make a iota of difference because it can only be learnt in situ.
I'm no dating guru, quite far from it, but it's really not that hard to achieve something without resorting to call-girls or the shoddiest sex opportunities.

[brawndolicious]

I think the way you have to view it is that everyone looks/acts a bit weird (unless they're a total fake) and you have to basically get them used to you which is what "being yourself" means. Being confident enough in what you are to believe that you don't need to impress anybody.

[Mr. Nobody]

Post a pic and your problems, Rah. Fuck. Let people help you.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=8429.msg2010798#msg2010798

Could be doing far, far worse

Almost looks like a white RZA 

[king of the internet]

Moral of the story is a horrible personality is even worse than horrible looks

[Himu]

Weren't you here for the epic, drunken, racist rambling, himu?

No

[bud]

op, don't give up. i'm not trying to make you feel better about yourself, but the truth is: it is really easy to get laid online. i have used it to satisfy my thirst for milfs. they are amazing.

make an okcupid account.

just be honest and open about it, you'd be surprised how many of them respond positively to that. hell, you saying that you're a virgin would probably make it easier because i'm sure there are many women out there who would love to take someone's virginity.

hell, i had sex with a first-timer through okcupid (she was older than me, too: 30).

seriously. try okcupid. write these women an honest message. compliment them on their looks. tell them you're a virgin and that you would like to lose your virginity. tell them something about yourself (your job/what you study/whatevs).

may allah help you.

[bud]

allah loves jews.

[Kara]

Allah them.

[recursivelyenumerable]

have you ever considered the possibility that your sexual desire is just wrong

give yourself over to the new model. let your psyche be consumed and reborn in its flame. only through this can you be saved.

[Tasty]

Allah them.

Sheeeeeiiit

[Joe Molotov]

Allah them.

Sheeeeeiiit

Shiiiiites

[chronovore]

Real talk: the only thing i really like about hookups is getting to experience women's apartments, the more idiosyncratic the better. There is this bizarre intense energy inside single women's apartments i find incredibly fascinating and thrilling - i love the feeling like she's caught me and dragged me into her alien lair.  this is actually only getting better as the women get older.

Christ. Now /I've/ got wood.

[Van Cruncheon]

back when I was young and cute I admit to a few instances of leading gay dudes on a bit for the ego validation. I am a horrible person 

tho when I told one boi I was straight (which I finally felt obligated to do as he had started stroking my thigh) he told me "but ... that makes you like the only straight person I can stand" which was kind of sweet

I can attest that you had a vibe. Like when we hung out at the wine place, you began coming across as this fluid, bi-curious, math-genius, tortured, Cobain look-alike. Made me go

what was my vibe. I MUST KNOW.

[recursivelyenumerable]

back when I was young and cute I admit to a few instances of leading gay dudes on a bit for the ego validation. I am a horrible person 

tho when I told one boi I was straight (which I finally felt obligated to do as he had started stroking my thigh) he told me "but ... that makes you like the only straight person I can stand" which was kind of sweet

I can attest that you had a vibe. Like when we hung out at the wine place, you began coming across as this fluid, bi-curious, math-genius, tortured, Cobain look-alike. Made me go

oops ... i did it again

[DCharlieJP]

it's okay, some of us are married with kids and we are now "late-in-life virgins" : the senility coupled with the lack of bone steeping means we may as well be virgers.

[chronovore]

it's okay, some of us are married with kids and we are now "late-in-life virgins" : the senility coupled with the lack of bone steeping means we may as well be virgers.

I like to think of it as "Born-Again Virger."

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