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Dey took m'flag
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #120 on: June 26, 2015, 08:35:23 PM »
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According to Dylann Roof’s arrest report, the 21-year-old was treated to a meal at Burger King compliments of the officers who arrested him.

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The fuck? My dude murders my people and gets a fucking whopper for his troubles? That's some straight up bullshit.

I know that the thread has more than moved on from this topic, but:

1)  The absolute, number 1 rule of interrogation is:  ESTABLISH RAPPORT.

2)  One of the simplest ways to make an effort towards establishing point #1 is to get the fucking asshole shitrat some fast food.  This is not a secret.  It's even in the gawdamned Wire.  I've never had to interrogate someone on the level of a mass murderer/pedophile/whatever suspect, but nearly every single person I've brought back to the station in cuffs has been offered a food run.  In fact, it's official policy to do so in my org, and probably is in others, outside of its value as a rapport-building technique.

3)  Although it is an obvious, given, whateverthefuck that Roof pulled the trigger, that does not mean that an interrogation is unnecessary, or that following the procedures for such is unnecessary.  For one thing, it is necessary to establish whether or not anyone gave him any sort of support in carrying out his attack.  For another, we were all sickened from some of the initial "bu-bu-bu what if he has a mental illness?!?!?!" media speculation.   In the realm of the courts, a proper and thorough police interrogation of the suspect and his motivations and state of mind can do a lot to close off any defence claims of "mental illness" later on down the line when it comes to trial and sentencing.

In other words, I understand the anger surrounding this situation, and comparisons to other examples of bad police behaviour, but losing one's shit over the police doing their jobs properly to ensure a conviction for this asshole is not a good use of one's energy, imho.
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #121 on: June 26, 2015, 11:52:33 PM »
don't think anyone's angry about the police ACTUALLY doing their jobs, but rather the seeming contrast when police DON'T do their job with black perps/suspects who have committed far lesser crimes (or crimes at all)
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #122 on: June 27, 2015, 08:00:16 AM »
Thanks for the added info, Boogie.


Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #124 on: June 27, 2015, 08:47:09 AM »
She just free climbed the pole? That's awesome.

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #125 on: June 27, 2015, 09:29:26 AM »
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #126 on: June 27, 2015, 12:27:17 PM »
http://www.ibtimes.com/keep-it-down-brittany-bree-newsome-removes-confederate-flag-after-scaling-south-1986767

haw haw

 :lol  awesome.

I had been wondering how long until someone said "fuck it, I'll do it myself"

Shame they put it right back up though.  :-\
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #127 on: June 27, 2015, 09:49:34 PM »
https://twitter.com/Mickens__/status/614834977327460352

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #128 on: June 28, 2015, 12:11:26 AM »
The hard questions are being asked now

https://twitter.com/EhJovan/status/614988408436432896

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #129 on: June 28, 2015, 12:35:20 AM »
One would thing SC would seize on this opportunity to leave the flag down for a little while

Is there a donation campaign for Bree's legal defense?

Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #130 on: June 28, 2015, 12:44:50 AM »
I wish I was brave enough to get a tattoo of Bree tearing down that flag.

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #131 on: June 28, 2015, 02:32:50 AM »
Can't agree with the whole treason thing. Under other circumstances it would be wrong (and hypocritical given our country's origin) to try to prevent one or more states from leaving the Union. Given that the war was really about slavery though, it was absolutely worth fighting. The idea of a respectable rebellion can't be separated from the fact that the rebellion was founded on the principle of continuing to keep people as property.

I don't necessarily disagree with you on that, but I love throwing the word "treason" back on people who drape themselves in American flags and condemn anybody who says even the mildest negative thing about America.
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #134 on: June 29, 2015, 06:58:36 PM »
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=374_1435549300

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #135 on: June 29, 2015, 09:05:08 PM »
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Southern political scientists James Michael Martinez, William Donald Richardson, and Ron McNinch-Su write:

The battle flag was never adopted by the Confederate Congress, never flew over any state capitols during the Confederacy, and was never officially used by Confederate veterans' groups. The flag probably would have been relegated to Civil War museums if it had not been resurrected by the resurgent KKK and used by Southern Dixiecrats during the 1948 presidential election.

:wtf

Fun fact, most Confederate flags you see are the Confederate naval jack.

To be fair, it was the only version of the Confederate flag that wasn't comically badly designed.
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #136 on: June 30, 2015, 09:51:07 AM »
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #137 on: June 30, 2015, 09:51:57 AM »
Well look it's Bo and Luke Duke's inbred sons  Buke and Lo.
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #138 on: June 30, 2015, 11:55:19 AM »
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.

Edit: OK I could see why you don't want Canadians to see your shame.

Also that ending 'They are focused on the funeral for the charleston victims,...it happens TODAY', like I'm suppose to get hyped up for it.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2015, 12:01:06 PM by TheInfelicitousDandy »

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #139 on: June 30, 2015, 11:59:19 AM »
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.

Lrn2America you hummus eating euro(?) pussy.   :beli
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #140 on: June 30, 2015, 12:00:12 PM »
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.

Lrn2America you hummus eating euro(?) pussy.   :beli

Even worse, he's Canadian.
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #141 on: June 30, 2015, 12:00:33 PM »
When the Klu Klux Klan are the people rallying to your cause, maybe it's time to hang it up breh
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #142 on: June 30, 2015, 12:02:16 PM »
The flag in its current use was brought about by the KKK, so its more like people have been rallying to the KKKs cause.   

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #143 on: June 30, 2015, 12:10:03 PM »
The flag in its current use was brought about by the KKK, so its more like people have been rallying to the KKKs cause.

People rally to the aid of starving children too, and nothing gets done about it. Just saying, we rally to a lot of causes as a country that never get done. Some are just more important that others.
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #144 on: June 30, 2015, 01:50:12 PM »
disowning a flag is way easier then actually fixing structural racism, or ending hunger, but its a nice gesture at least.

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #145 on: June 30, 2015, 02:41:57 PM »
Whatever happens in the end, it's very important to observe some of the GOP starting to distance itself from some of the white trash element of its base. Just to see them acknowledge the problem is a major step forward.
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #146 on: June 30, 2015, 04:19:29 PM »
The south should have just stayed occupied territory for a while after the Civil War. Maybe it would have helped instill some reality.

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #147 on: June 30, 2015, 04:29:15 PM »
It's not all the south. There are lots of people that don't associate with that flag.
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #148 on: June 30, 2015, 04:31:45 PM »
Whatever happens in the end, it's very important to observe some of the GOP starting to distance itself from some of the white trash element of its base. Just to see them acknowledge the problem is a major step forward.

They are?
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #149 on: June 30, 2015, 04:35:00 PM »
saw this on fb

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #150 on: June 30, 2015, 04:46:11 PM »
Remember how citizens committees use to give out bus fair to get blacks out of their state? I don't think giving 20$ to a kid to have his picture taken in front of a flag would be unimaginable. 

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #152 on: June 30, 2015, 04:55:48 PM »
To be fair, it was the only version of the Confederate flag that wasn't comically badly designed.

I think the Stars and Bars would have been a sharp flag if it had had slightly different dimensions or if the canton wasn't the height of two of its three stripes, but I like Austria's flag and consider saltires almost as passé as the Scandinavian cross.

The Stainless Banner has to be down there as one of the worst flags in all of the Americas.

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #153 on: June 30, 2015, 05:02:51 PM »
The Stainless Banner is the "open image in new tab" of flags.

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Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #155 on: June 30, 2015, 06:37:34 PM »
I like Austria's flag and consider saltires almost as passé as the Scandinavian cross.

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #156 on: June 30, 2015, 08:51:33 PM »
Let's rank Final Fantasies Nordic cross flags.

1. Denmark - The original, accept no substitutes.

2. Sweden - What is this, an Ikea commercial? We're talking symbols of ethnic chauvinism here, not bland corporate branding. Whatever, at least it's only 2 colors.

3. Finland - Let's have a predominantly white flag for a land that straddles the arctic circle. What's the worst that could happen?

4. Iceland - Norway called, they want their flag back.

5. Norway - Iceland called, they want their flag back.

6. Aland - OMG we get it, you're Swedish.

7. Orkney - Is this a piece of flannel or a flag?

8. Faroe Islands - Did you feel threatened by Orkney having one of the worst Nordic cross flags?

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #157 on: June 30, 2015, 09:05:41 PM »
Let's rank Final Fantasies Nordic cross flags.

1. Denmark - The original, accept no substitutes.

2. Sweden - What is this, an Ikea commercial? We're talking symbols of ethnic chauvinism here, not bland corporate branding. Whatever, at least it's only 2 colors.

3. Finland - Let's have a predominantly white flag for a land that straddles the arctic circle. What's the worst that could happen?

4. Iceland - Norway called, they want their flag back.

5. Norway - Iceland called, they want their flag back.

6. Aland - OMG we get it, you're Swedish.

7. Orkney - Is this a piece of flannel or a flag?

8. Faroe Islands - Did you feel threatened by Orkney having one of the worst Nordic cross flags?

 :goty2 :iface

Are we really doing this?

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #158 on: June 30, 2015, 09:09:39 PM »
Not really, that list wasn't exhaustive (chief amongst the omissions being the Saar Protectorate) and contained numerous intentional factual errors (Finland is divided by the arctic circle, it doesn't straddle it). 

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #159 on: July 01, 2015, 04:09:44 AM »
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #160 on: July 01, 2015, 09:08:51 AM »
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The latest victim of the growing controversy over the Confederate flag is the 1980s TV series “The Dukes of Hazzard.”

A TV Land spokesperson confirmed Tuesday that the network has pulled reruns of the series from its schedule, which had been airing twice a day.
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #162 on: July 02, 2015, 12:06:53 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/politics/confederate-flag-poll-racism-southern-pride/index.html

CNN putting out their shitty ass poll, lmao
Holy fuck did you see their breakdown on the actual poll.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/07/01/confederate.flag.pdf
Just some 1000 people.
300 of which were not white

12% of whites think the Charelston Shooting, where the dude literally went to shoot blacks, say it wasn't a hate crime.
 :kobeyuck

75% of minorities see the flag as a symbol for racism
25% of Whites think it's a symbol for racsim,
 :what

17% of minorties think it's a sign of southern pride
66% of whites think it's a sign of southern pride

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #163 on: July 02, 2015, 12:08:58 PM »
What the fuck else could it be? WTF CAC America. At least acknowledge your own fucktards.
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #164 on: July 02, 2015, 12:52:39 PM »
Not surprising in the least.White Americans as a group never see racism or symbols of racism as a problem. It's all something that happened in the bad old 50's and then MLK came along and fixed everything.

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #165 on: July 02, 2015, 01:00:21 PM »
That's it; I'm going trans-black.  Where do I pick up my cock extension?

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #166 on: July 02, 2015, 01:05:03 PM »
Not surprising in the least.White Americans as a group never see racism or symbols of racism as a problem. It's all something that happened in the bad old 50's and then MLK came along and fixed everything.

Yup. "Racism is dead so any racial meaning of the flag died with it. It's all about heritage now."
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #167 on: July 02, 2015, 01:15:26 PM »
https://m.

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #168 on: July 02, 2015, 03:14:05 PM »

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #169 on: July 02, 2015, 03:20:03 PM »
If ever there was a time for a revival of the (real) Black Panthers
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #170 on: July 02, 2015, 03:57:00 PM »
If ever there was a time for a revival of the (real) Black Panthers
:whew
time to tool up, bruv
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Didn't he, even as an unarmed black guy, nearly get shot by them. Or was that the Muslim Brotherhood?

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #171 on: July 02, 2015, 04:21:54 PM »
hour long, but good watch

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #172 on: July 02, 2015, 05:53:26 PM »
If ever there was a time for a revival of the (real) Black Panthers
:whew



time to tool up, bruv



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I literally had a take a walk after seeing this shit lmaoo
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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #174 on: July 02, 2015, 09:42:39 PM »
#notmyflag

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #175 on: July 02, 2015, 11:32:23 PM »
https://m.

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Re: Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?
« Reply #179 on: July 03, 2015, 07:52:50 PM »
If it's state/federal property then yeah a losing non government flag shouldn't be up. There's not any iron crosses up at German buildings waving around are there? MEIN SWASTIKA IS MEIN HISTORY JA :lol And get the fuck out of here with pulling the Dukes from TV. They ain't klansmen. So yeah, if you want to wave it around yourself and have people suspect you're a nazi or just a bit of a halfwit as the study linked above shows that's fine, but not Governmental places.
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