Should libruls be allowed to take dern my cunfedrit flag?

[Eschaton]

[toku]

My heart says flags is flags but I don't listen to my heart.

[Purrp Skirrp]

Southern political scientists James Michael Martinez, William Donald Richardson, and Ron McNinch-Su write:

The battle flag was never adopted by the Confederate Congress, never flew over any state capitols during the Confederacy, and was never officially used by Confederate veterans' groups. The flag probably would have been relegated to Civil War museums if it had not been resurrected by the resurgent KKK and used by Southern Dixiecrats during the 1948 presidential election.

[OnlyRegret]

more like LIEbrals

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[Kara]

Southern political scientists James Michael Martinez, William Donald Richardson, and Ron McNinch-Su write:

The battle flag was never adopted by the Confederate Congress, never flew over any state capitols during the Confederacy, and was never officially used by Confederate veterans' groups. The flag probably would have been relegated to Civil War museums if it had not been resurrected by the resurgent KKK and used by Southern Dixiecrats during the 1948 presidential election.

Fun fact, most Confederate flags you see are the Confederate naval jack.

[Mr Gilhaney]

Here in South Asia we love it so much, that we use it on the jeepneys.



Together with some DBZ of course.

[Great Rumbler]

[brob]

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[Phoenix Dark]

I don't think Confederate flags should be banned, I just feel like the display of them should be criticized. Especially on state government property, like the flag on South Carolina's state capitol. The Confederate Flag is an anti-American symbol. It's the symbol* of an illegitimate "rogue country" if you will, that was created on the basis of white supremacy and slavery.

If people want to display it on their houses, cars, whatever that's fine. Just as if people want to display a swastika in those places they have the right. But don't fly that shit on capitol buildings.

*yes I know the current flag isn't the one that was used during the war

[brob]

how about the government stops flying the white supremacist flag and instead makes it a little mini flag inside a larger flag?

[I'm a Puppy!]

I agree it's bizarre that this is the outcome of the terrorist act in SC.
But eh, really it should've been gone from the state capitol. It belongs in the backs of redneck trucks not on a state capitol.

[CatsCatsCats]

Listening to democracy now this morning, they hard a couple of republican state senators or someshit saying they'll get the flag taken down despite what their constituents think because as elected officials they're supposed to do the right thing! When asked about honoring Pinckney by addressing issues important to him like expanding medicare, voter suppression laws, etc there was an awkward pause, an um, and "we're really just focusin on the flag"

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Not a liberal but I fucking hate that goddamn flag. It absolutely guarantees 3 things about a person:

1) Their favorite show is dukes of hazard
2) They own at least one truck with no tailgate
3) They are racist

Fuck em'

[Positive Touch]

This whole debate strikes me as a bit bizarre.

We went from hmmm is this guy who mass murdered blacks at a black establishment a racist -> okay yeah he is a racist -> he wears patches -> they included the confederate flag -> the confederate flag is racist? -> lol the confederate flag is flying at the capitol

I mean there was no way we were gonna address anything real related to the shooting when pols and media couldn't even acknowledge he was a white supremacist (and they wouldn't even call him a terrorist lol) so I guess if the best thing I can get out of this is making hillbillies cry then I'll take it.

[Brehvolution]

According to Dylann Roof’s arrest report, the 21-year-old was treated to a meal at Burger King compliments of the officers who arrested him.

[Joe Molotov]

According to Dylann Roof’s arrest report, the 21-year-old was treated to a meal at Burger King compliments of the officers who arrested him.

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Arresting a black guy who seems suspicious:

Arresting a white guy who murdered 9 people:

[Eel O'Brian]

Wonder if I should stock up on cheap flags so I can Ebay merc some rednecks if they start getting pulled everywhere

[Am_I_Anonymous]

According to Dylann Roof’s arrest report, the 21-year-old was treated to a meal at Burger King compliments of the officers who arrested him.

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The fuck? My dude murders my people and gets a fucking whopper for his troubles? That's some straight up bullshit.

[Eel O'Brian]

Cops do that kind of shit all the time, though, they used to buy Henry Lee Lucas milkshakes and burgers and shit to get him to talk about his murders (most of which were fake )

[Eel O'Brian]

yeah, burger king is dogshit tier fast food other than their onion (esque) rings, he'll be gutshitting out stale lettuce and sour tomato for days

[Himu]

Facebook friend:

My thoughts on the flag: Taking down a Confederate Flag or any flag for that matter won't make someone not racist, won't change mindsets. That to me is more important. A flag doesn't make someone racist just like a Black Power Fist doesn't make someone conscious. These are symbols. Furthermore, the flag has to do with the past, okay, but the past already happened, even this event in SC already happened. What can we do about the future to change mindsets and racism from happening? How can we stop this from occurring again? How can we change people's hate-filled judgmental mindsets? Because taking down a flag won't do shit.

This is why I want to leave America. America is too based on past events and occurrences and it comes off too emotionally based. I want to move to a future thinking country. If there is a tragedy, you learn from it, prevent it from occurring again. America is too worried about taking away symbols from things that were out of our control and we are supposed to be a country based off freedom and liberty correct?

[Madrun Badrun]

It ought to be banned just because the kind of the people who care about it are in the most need of having their jimmies rustled. 

[benjipwns]

Mississippi once again escapes unnoticed.

[Steve Contra]

Mississippi once again escapes unnoticed.

[Verdigris Murder]

The way many blacks mating habits are similar to the May Flys habits: they usually target the whiter, weaker females for impregnating.

[Human Snorenado]

The way many blacks mating habits are similar to the May Flys habits: they usually target the whiter, weaker females for impregnating.

You know Raperman, I feel like you should post somewhere that would appreciate you. Here you go.

http://opa-ages.forumflash.com/

[Verdigris Murder]

Oh plump supplican't.

I can't help myself when you word me \|/

[seagrams hotsauce]

Mississippi once again escapes unnoticed.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2015/06/22/petition-mississippi-confederate-flag/29113157/

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/613419998262992896

Bill Kristol Verified account
‏@BillKristol
The Left's 21st century agenda: expunging every trace of respect, recognition or acknowledgment of Americans who fought for the Confederacy.

[Madrun Badrun]

First they came for the Confederates, and then for the Nazis, and there was no one left when they came for me

[Am_I_Anonymous]

The way many blacks mating habits are similar to the May Flys habits: they usually target the whiter, weaker females for impregnating.

Mike G Forest Green lyrics:

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/613419998262992896

Bill Kristol Verified account
‏@BillKristol
The Left's 21st century agenda: expunging every trace of respect, recognition or acknowledgment of Americans who fought for the Confederacy.

Gotta respect Kristol's consistency for stanning the loser/instigating party of a war.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/613419998262992896

Bill Kristol Verified account
‏@BillKristol
The Left's 21st century agenda: expunging every trace of respect, recognition or acknowledgment of Americans who fought for the Confederacy.

Gotta respect Kristol's consistency for stanning the loser/instigating party of a war.

I dare you to pretend that war wasn't about the booming textile industry, trade routes, and the demolition of the old south money. We weren't treated any better after the war man. We just happened to be the moral candle they used to light the dynamite.

Learn white people man, fuck you're too old to still believe in that fairy tale

[Van Cruncheon]

According to Dylann Roof’s arrest report, the 21-year-old was treated to a meal at Burger King compliments of the officers who arrested him.

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can't stop myself from typing this

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[Van Cruncheon]

how does bill kristol feel about nazis? after all, nearly 40% (or more) of america supported charles lindbergh for president, despite him being directly affiliated with the nazi party in germany

[Am_I_Anonymous]

how does bill kristol feel about nazis? after all, nearly 40% (or more) of america supported charles lindbergh for president, despite him being directly affiliated with the nazi party in garmany

This post is about as interesting and witty as an undercooked grilled cheese. By all means keep plugging along though...it's fascinating...

[Van Cruncheon]

how does bill kristol feel about nazis? after all, nearly 40% (or more) of america supported charles lindbergh for president, despite him being directly affiliated with the nazi party in garmany

This post is about as interesting and witty as an undercooked grilled cheese. By all means keep plugging along though...it's fascinating...

well, that was a response you typed to a question i didn't know i asked

got somethin' you wanna get off your chest?

[Sausage]

It's the flag of losers. Don't know why people celebrate it.

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/613419998262992896

Bill Kristol Verified account
‏@BillKristol
The Left's 21st century agenda: expunging every trace of respect, recognition or acknowledgment of Americans who fought for the Confederacy.

Gotta respect Kristol's consistency for stanning the loser/instigating party of a war.

I dare you to pretend that war wasn't about the booming textile industry, trade routes, and the demolition of the old south money. We weren't treated any better after the war man. We just happened to be the moral candle they used to light the dynamite.

Learn white people man, fuck you're too old to still believe in that fairy tale

[Am_I_Anonymous]

It's the flag of losers. Don't know why people celebrate it.

Well to be fair I see a fair amount of Cleveland Indians' flags on cars. Some people just accessorize for imminent and pas failures better than others.

[Madrun Badrun]

Seriously though, if the only thing you can think of to celebrate Southern pride is that flag, then you shouldn't be proud of the south. 

[Sausage]

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/613419998262992896

Bill Kristol Verified account
‏@BillKristol
The Left's 21st century agenda: expunging every trace of respect, recognition or acknowledgment of Americans who fought for the Confederacy.

Gotta respect Kristol's consistency for stanning the loser/instigating party of a war.

I dare you to pretend that war wasn't about the booming textile industry, trade routes, and the demolition of the old south money. We weren't treated any better after the war man. We just happened to be the moral candle they used to light the dynamite.

Learn white people man, fuck you're too old to still believe in that fairy tale

Actually it's about ethics in states rights.

[Van Cruncheon]

i suspect that to most of the inbred yokels hyucking their way through their trailer park existences, the flag is primarily about their old feudal culture relative to northern "progressivism" -- it's just a dumb tribal totem for dumbs. it just means "good ol' boys who respek the old ways and won't ride yer ass if you git on about dem darkies. firearms and murkan trucks welcome. librul feggits STAY AWAY" to MOST of 'em.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/613419998262992896

Bill Kristol Verified account
‏@BillKristol
The Left's 21st century agenda: expunging every trace of respect, recognition or acknowledgment of Americans who fought for the Confederacy.

Gotta respect Kristol's consistency for stanning the loser/instigating party of a war.

I dare you to pretend that war wasn't about the booming textile industry, trade routes, and the demolition of the old south money. We weren't treated any better after the war man. We just happened to be the moral candle they used to light the dynamite.

Learn white people man, fuck you're too old to still believe in that fairy tale

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Got ya

[I'm a Puppy!]

What I see when I see someone with the confederate flag I see a loser holding a flag of a loser country that might have been one of the dumbest loser countries in history.

"Hey guys! We don't need the north! We have our own industry that's maintained by cheap slave labor that they want to take away. Well I say no to that! We can make more money by ourselves! Nevermind that our biggest customer is the very set of states we intend to go to war with! That's not important! It wont matter because we can ship our stuff out via our canals. Nevermind that we wont be able to do much with them towards the north and that the north holds most of the navy which could and probably would easily blockade us. But that's not the matter! We sir, we will have the rails! Which really would run through our own states and to the wild west, which we'd have to build since most of the north owns most of the railways west.  But by gum! We shall set up a glorious country built on the principles of freedom that allows each state to do as they please and there'll be little to no federal tax at all! Nevermind that having the states each do their own thing will probably lead to disjointedness and unreliability and that our enemy not only has their member states working in unison they'll also have a strong and well funded army due to the taxes they levy which we promise not to inflict on our citizens. No sir, liberty and the southern way shall prevail!"

Honestly, when I see the confederate flag I see losers that can't apply logic to figure out the most basic of problems and not just that, racist losers at that.

[CatsCatsCats]

Can there please be an AiA and Drinky feud please? That would give me so much life, I wanna see you boys roll around

[Kara]

Well the South was the world's cotton plantation in the antebellum, so they thought that dem yurotrash would bail them out from Americuh.

The British responded by turning Egypt into the world's cotton plantation instead.

Then the Khedives started spending that cotton money on stupid shit they didn't need (remember this one anytime a nu-atheist wants to ballwash Mehmet Ali, idiot dynasty) and Egypt got hella fucked when cotton from the South started coming back onto international markets.

This has been the history of economics with Bore emoticons, please join us next week when we talk about Napoleon III.

[tiesto]

Pretty sure anyone with a Confederate flag around here would be laughed all the way back to their southern trailer park. If someone has a non-US flag on their car or hanging from their house, most of the time it's an Italian one

[brawndolicious]

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/613419998262992896

Bill Kristol Verified account
‏@BillKristol
The Left's 21st century agenda: expunging every trace of respect, recognition or acknowledgment of Americans who fought for the Confederacy.

Gotta respect Kristol's consistency for stanning the loser/instigating party of a war.

I dare you to pretend that war wasn't about the booming textile industry, trade routes, and the demolition of the old south money. We weren't treated any better after the war man. We just happened to be the moral candle they used to light the dynamite.

Learn white people man, fuck you're too old to still believe in that fairy tale

The south was losing share in the textile market as India started growing even cheaper cotton. Voting wise, the south could still keep up in the Senate but they lost the House and had a President who opposed slavery.

Their economy was largely dependant on cotton and slavery and they didn't really have any way to keep up that system in the political climate of the time or a plan to move to wage based labor. There are some similarities tto how Japan attacked Pearl Harbor after the US cut off the oil exports while Japan was in the middle of a war, leaving Japan with the option to surrender or to cripple the US Navy in the Pacific so that Japan can have access to the oil it needed. I don't think anyone at either point in history expected it would be easy to avoid a war as you can't just cripple a state economically and not expect them to strike back. It seems pretty clear why the South felt the need to start a war.

I'm being trolled aren't I?

[Human Snorenado]

So now that there won't be any more confederate flags, we've ended racism, just like we did when we elected a black President, amirite guys?

[benjipwns]

I'm sorry, but I'm not giving anyone dap for suddenly deciding the Confederate Flag isn't cool. It shouldn't have taken 9 dead black people in 2015 to come to that realization.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/23/congratulations-you-oppose-the-confederate-flag-now-what/

A lot of the surrounding media-led outrage over the flag seems somewhat cold, given the horror of what last week brought. We had nine black people brutally murdered because they were black and sitting in a church with a history of fighting white supremacy. With all due deference to hatred for a Confederate flag on a pole at the statehouse, this seems like an almost childlike attempt to miss the seriousness of the situation. It’s as if they expect us to say, “Congratulations! You oppose the flag of an army that was defeated 150 years ago. We’re all very proud of you, journalists!” This generation seems to excel at inventing controversies, weighing in on those invented controversies, and then patting itself on the back for being so courageous and open-minded.

The murderer of the Emanuel nine has done something particularly bad, but he isn’t the only person capable of evil out there. And getting rid of a flag is hardly the remedy for the racism and violence that infects our culture. How juvenile to think otherwise.

Still, it’s routine now for the media to respond to tragic events with a call for more government control. It’s not just shown by responding to mass shootings with calls for gun control. Remember how, until all the facts got in the way, the media blamed a fatal Amtrak derailment on a lack of federal funding, of all things?

CNN actually went “heretic hunting” to call on businesses to ban any goods sold that in any way reference a Confederate symbol (which, of course, includes many state flags). Check out this piece headlined “First on CNN: Walmart to stop selling Confederate flag merchandise.” See, it’s first on CNN because CNN decided to trade journalism-ing for activism-ing:

I mean, OK? Even this type of “Look! Squirrel!” avoidance of the actual tragedy of the Charleston terrorism was better than the naked political point scoring

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https://twitter.com/AndrewStilesUSA/status/613129182546132992

https://twitter.com/Tracinski/status/613192229935419392

Dear @politico: Republicans were for taking down that flag a lot earlier than Democrats--150 years earlier.

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And now the media are hopping all over the place. Within a few hours they had moved on from their noble campaign of (largely meaningless but whatever) flag justice/posturing/attention in South Carolina to every state but Arkansas that is so tainted.

And then within a few minutes, they had moved on to renaming literally everything.

In a completely serious piece for Commentary, historian Max Boot writes:

Not only should the Confederate flag come down, but I believe it’s also time for Southern states to change place names in honor of traitors such as Jefferson Davis.

I know, I know: it’s a slippery slope that could eventually result in taking slaveholders such as George Washington off our currency or even renaming our national capital.

He thought that people would forgive Washington for having done good things, too. He has more confidence than I do in the progressive left.

A bunch of New York Times reporters jumped on the bandwagon:

Ross Barkan ✔@RossBarkan
.@hunterw teaches me that there's a street named after Robert E. Lee in walking distance of my childhood home http://read.bi/1N2ghuQ

One wonders whether they understand the difference between men such as Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee or if the only thing that matters about them is their affiliation with the Confederacy.

And Stars and Stripes is polling people on whether to rename military bases named after Confederates.

Even Texas is experiencing some of the frenzy. The Texas Tribune reports, “Momentum Builds to Remove UT Confederate Statue.”

I can’t help but notice that no one is calling to rename the Woodrow Wilson bridge right by my house, even though Wilson’s racism was personal, political, focused on eugenics and far more recent than any Civil War-era leader.

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One might be forgiven for thinking that is the goal of modern outrage politics — to turn everything into power games and nothing more.

I agree with New York Times reporter Lydia Polgreen:

Lydia Polgreen ✔@lpolgreen
A risk in all the flag unanimity: everyone will think this whole race problem in America has been solved and we can move on.

This is in fact what outrage culture does. We’re addicted to judgment porn, and this is just the latest example. And just like traditional porn, outrage porn serves only for momentary release. Confederate flag burning doesn’t actually do anything to stop racism. It’s a complete sideshow. And once we’ve blown up every confederate statue and smashed every tombstone with Confederate marks and erased all evidence of the Confederacy from our roads, we’ll still have the scourge of racism and every other sin with us.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

So now that there won't be any more confederate flags, we've ended racism, just like we did when we elected a black President, amirite guys?

Hell yeah

Wait a minute, just got followed all the way to work by a sheriff, complete with slow roll past my parking lot. Can't have a black man driving a 50,000 dollar car now can we boys?

[Cerveza mas fina]

wow a 50000 dollar car

[Am_I_Anonymous]

wow a 50000 dollar car

How's your quota going, junior?

And yeah, be black and driving anything that's not dirty is something that is occasionally frowned upon by racist ass cops. Welcome to 'Murica

[Cerveza mas fina]

Maybe you can buy this

[Am_I_Anonymous]

 

[sarslip]

Not a liberal but I fucking hate that goddamn flag. It absolutely guarantees 3 things about a person:

1) Their favorite show is dukes of hazard
2) They own at least one truck with no tailgate
3) They are racist

Fuck em'

lol,

AiA tho, why you skip #4 - They vote republican

&

#5 - Gun owners

again classic decoy laid out here to keep us from doing anything about guns. 

i blame don lemon.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Not a liberal but I fucking hate that goddamn flag. It absolutely guarantees 3 things about a person:

1) Their favorite show is dukes of hazard
2) They own at least one truck with no tailgate
3) They are racist

Fuck em'

lol,

AiA tho, why you skip #4 - They vote republican

&

#5 - Gun owners

again classic decoy laid out here to keep us from doing anything about guns. 

i blame don lemon.

LOL, like they vote at all.

Also, Don Lemon belongs to your CACS. We don't want him.

[sarslip]

i welcome him into our fold, enclosed is your copy of the new yorker, and lifetime supply of wetnaps. 

[Am_I_Anonymous]

i welcome him into our fold, enclosed is your copy of the new yorker, and lifetime supply of wetnaps.

Don't forget a complimentary "I caught you speeding but clearly you're white and in a hurry so here's a warning, kind citizen" and a lifetime supply of white guilt!