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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24180 on: August 10, 2016, 08:48:09 PM »
I'm waiting for GAF to inevitably spin not being favorable to NMS and some kind of hate crime/bigoted position. :doge

Well anyone questioning the game earlier was being accused of displaying 'gamergator' like tendencies.

Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24181 on: August 10, 2016, 10:47:48 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213201159&postcount=3687

if all of that is true then even the procedural generation tech demo-y shit isn't very impressive

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« Reply #24182 on: August 10, 2016, 10:48:40 PM »
I'm waiting for GAF to inevitably spin not being favorable to NMS and some kind of hate crime/bigoted position. :doge

Well anyone questioning the game earlier was being accused of displaying 'gamergator' like tendencies.

lol. Everything is/was a sign of a GamerGator. I swear to god somebody even mentioned shorts and a t-shirt as some sort of signal. It got so bad even Lore stepped in and told people to shut up about GG.


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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24184 on: August 11, 2016, 12:16:01 AM »
lol somebody already got to the center of the Galaxy

Er....spoilers

https://m.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24185 on: August 11, 2016, 01:07:10 AM »
All the hype that was built up for the past two years:

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« Reply #24186 on: August 11, 2016, 01:08:12 AM »
http://m.imgur.com/Nxoedeb

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24187 on: August 11, 2016, 01:51:54 AM »
lol somebody already got to the center of the Galaxy

That's pretty much what the guy who bought his early copy thousands said, yeah.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213198492&postcount=208
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213199278&postcount=211

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People are just looking to shit on this guy, aren't they. What is it, jealousy?

It has to be something like that. It's... man, I dunno the right word. Depressing?

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
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« Reply #24189 on: August 11, 2016, 01:59:11 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213180036&postcount=3500

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Richard LeMarchand was saying how the stuff he had seen of the game made him think of Iain M Banks, and then he got the game and apparently it opens up with an Iain M Banks quote, so yeeeeah.

A full work day has passed and despite questioning from fans and the press, Hello still hasn't clarified the whole multiplayer thing. Pretty amazing.

Worse PR, Niantic or Hello Games?
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
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« Reply #24192 on: August 11, 2016, 04:46:32 AM »
lol somebody already got to the center of the Galaxy

Er....spoilers

https://m.

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« Reply #24193 on: August 11, 2016, 07:25:01 AM »
That's it? That's the ending?
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24194 on: August 11, 2016, 07:35:42 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1261113  Sean Murray's one of those "can't help themselves but talk up some bullshit" guys, just like Molyneaux.

Aww fuck yeah. More leaves on more trees. Just want I wanted.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213166014&postcount=2
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The power to see other players?

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
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« Reply #24197 on: August 11, 2016, 08:26:07 AM »
Wow everyone really got a hate boner for a small indie game.

I hope NMS is good but then I never really had any illusion that it would be a game of great gameplay depth.

A simple game for space exploration nerds like me who would just enjoy the atmosphere of it and not really care about gameplay.

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« Reply #24198 on: August 11, 2016, 10:05:09 AM »
One reason why I still might get NMS (when it's not $60) is so I can have an endless supply of weird creatures to draw. :doge

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« Reply #24199 on: August 11, 2016, 10:27:08 AM »
One reason why I still might get NMS (when it's not $60) is so I can have an endless supply of weird creatures to draw. :doge

Just get a mirror and sketch yourself from various angles  :aweshum
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« Reply #24200 on: August 11, 2016, 10:30:27 AM »
https://imgur.com/jZ1QJSD?r

This gets posted and suddenly Pallando is interested in the game to "draw the creatures"  :ohhh
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« Reply #24201 on: August 11, 2016, 10:48:13 AM »
small indie game

$60

I won't argue that $60 isn't $20 too much but more that the scope of the gameplay always seemed pretty small and indie to me.

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« Reply #24202 on: August 11, 2016, 11:29:28 AM »
lol somebody already got to the center of the Galaxy

Er....spoilers

https://m.
So you do a fetch quest, something you can guess in five tries happens, and then you start a new game+? That's what they were being so coy about? :doge

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« Reply #24203 on: August 11, 2016, 11:47:21 AM »
https://imgur.com/jZ1QJSD?r

This gets posted and suddenly Pallando is interested in the game to "draw the creatures"  :ohhh

BJU just amplifying his oppression.

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« Reply #24204 on: August 11, 2016, 11:57:56 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213195108&postcount=331

5000 hours for a single player game? Whaaa...? It took me 150 to do nearly everything, I have no idea where the 4850 other hours came from.
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« Reply #24205 on: August 11, 2016, 11:59:58 AM »
that might be like my Xenosaga play time. 90 hours. About 60 hours were me sleeping at the controller because the game put me to sleep and 30 hours of actually playing.....I hope it's that. :doge
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24206 on: August 11, 2016, 12:00:37 PM »
Which was the biggest disappointment

Xenoblade X

Star Ocean 5
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« Reply #24207 on: August 11, 2016, 12:04:06 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213195108&postcount=331

5000 hours for a single player game? Whaaa...? It took me 150 to do nearly everything, I have no idea where the 4850 other hours came from.
Had to have been idling a LOT.

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« Reply #24208 on: August 11, 2016, 12:11:01 PM »
Which was the biggest disappointment

Xenoblade X

Star Ocean 5

Star Ocean 5, definitely.

Xenoblade X was a disappointment due to its lack of story and questionable design decisions/progression gating. But it had an awesome world to explore and great soundtrack (FUCK DA HATERS). SO5 was average in all aspects except its combat system, which was a bumbling unplayable mess.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24209 on: August 11, 2016, 12:26:06 PM »
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« Reply #24210 on: August 11, 2016, 12:48:22 PM »
Which was the biggest disappointment

Xenoblade X

Star Ocean 5

Star Ocean 5, definitely.

Xenoblade X was a disappointment due to its lack of story and questionable design decisions/progression gating. But it had an awesome world to explore and great soundtrack (FUCK DA HATERS). SO5 was average in all aspects except its combat system, which was a bumbling unplayable mess.
But Xenoblade X followed the generally accepted awesome Xenoblade. SO5 followed SO4 which followed SO3. People should have been accustomed to disappointment by then.
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« Reply #24211 on: August 11, 2016, 12:49:25 PM »
Which was the biggest disappointment

Xenoblade X

Star Ocean 5

Star Ocean 5, definitely.

I still had a lot of fun with Xenoblade X, even though it wasn't as good as its predecessor. Star Ocean 5 was just so dull and uninteresting, with the worst combat system in the series.
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« Reply #24212 on: August 11, 2016, 12:54:45 PM »
small indie game

$60

I've put in more hours and had more fun with NMS so far than I've had with "proper" $60 AAA games that I've played in the past.

People need to stop this "indie games should be $10" bullshit thinking. The product price shouldn't be determined by the dev team size...


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« Reply #24213 on: August 11, 2016, 01:11:50 PM »
One reason why I still might get NMS (when it's not $60) is so I can have an endless supply of weird creatures to draw. :doge

Just get a mirror and sketch yourself from various angles  :aweshum
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« Reply #24214 on: August 11, 2016, 01:25:12 PM »
small indie game

$60

I've put in more hours and had more fun with NMS so far than I've had with "proper" $60 AAA games that I've played in the past.

People need to stop this "indie games should be $10" bullshit thinking. The product price shouldn't be determined by the dev team size...


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It's usually determined by what consumers in the market are willing to pay. I'd make a large wager that indie devs that don't get E3 showtime and propped up by Sony aren't going to be selling their games for $60. Price tags are also based on physical retail sales and what cut everyone involved with that process gets.

Minecraft offers a lot more than No Man's sky, and Notch/whoever decided the original price point and price points in the future were pretty smart and level headed.

This pricing issue also applies to AAA games, $60 as a static price point is fucking terrible. SFV shouldn't have been $60, remasters shouldn't be $60,
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« Reply #24215 on: August 11, 2016, 01:27:07 PM »
One reason why I still might get NMS (when it's not $60) is so I can have an endless supply of weird creatures to draw. :doge

Just get a mirror and sketch yourself from various angles  :aweshum
It's too early in the day for this weapons grade ether. :brazilcry

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« Reply #24216 on: August 11, 2016, 01:30:36 PM »
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« Reply #24217 on: August 11, 2016, 01:34:54 PM »
small indie game

$60

I've put in more hours and had more fun with NMS so far than I've had with "proper" $60 AAA games that I've played in the past.

People need to stop this "indie games should be $10" bullshit thinking. The product price shouldn't be determined by the dev team size...


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's usually determined by what consumers in the market are willing to pay. I'd make a large wager that indie devs that don't get E3 showtime and propped up by Sony aren't going to be selling their games for $60. Price tags are also based on physical retail sales and what cut everyone involved with that process gets.

Minecraft offers a lot more than No Man's sky, and Notch/whoever decided the original price point and price points in the future were pretty smart and level headed.

Minecraft was a shell of it's current form when it was originally sold to the public. It was sold for $15 dollars during the alpha (which freaked people out at the time), and was subsequently sold for $20 once it went into beta. This was just for creative mode, it took months before they implemented many of the basic features you see in the game these days. But honestly, if Minecraft was released today in it's current form, with all the features and content that it has easily rivaling "AAA" games that are sold at a premium, they could as $60 dollars for it and even though it would be worth the money, people would still bitch about it because it's an indie game.

Also $60 dollars is a perfectly fine price point for games. I and many others rate the quality of a purchase on $ per hour of entertainment. Movies are a shit value in that regard, $15 for 2 hours of entertainment (and that's not including the price of snacks). Most $60 games that I've enjoyed have given me 20 hours or more of entertainment. $3 per hour? That's a fucking value.
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« Reply #24218 on: August 11, 2016, 01:44:43 PM »
The standard for games like Minecraft have changed dramatically, so if something like Minecraft came out today and has as many features, the expectation would be a $20 or $30 price point.

There's a game called Space Engineers that trumps Minecraft and No Man's Sky in depth and scope, its $24.99 for an early access copy while also being in the $5 tier in a current humble bundle. The devs have made smart and fair decisions for their game.

No Man's Sky being $60 will probably end up being a fairly smart strategy, but it doesn't seem fair or justified, not even close. People will pump hundreds or thousands of dollars into free to play games, doesn't mean the devs are justified in asking for $200 as a base price point in the future.

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Also $60 dollars is a perfectly fine price point for games. I and many others rate the quality of a purchase on $ per hour of entertainment. Movies are a shit value in that regard, $15 for 2 hours of entertainment (and that's not including the price of snacks). Most $60 games that I've enjoyed have given me 20 hours or more of entertainment. $3 per hour? That's a fucking value.

So you've been dissatisfied with AAA games lately that cost $60, or rather, No Man's Sky is way better than those games, and yet you're fine with that $60 price point?
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« Reply #24219 on: August 11, 2016, 01:54:07 PM »

So you've been dissatisfied with AAA games lately that cost $60, or rather, No Man's Sky is way better than those games, and yet you're fine with that $60 price point?

Some $60 games are worth the money, some aren't. NMS is worth $60 IMHO. It might not be worth that to others.

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« Reply #24220 on: August 11, 2016, 02:15:54 PM »
Well I'm going to name the most distinguished mentally-challenged looking animals I find in NMS after both 213372bu and mormapope. That'll increase my value by at least a few dollars.  :doge

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« Reply #24221 on: August 11, 2016, 02:17:21 PM »
One reason why I still might get NMS (when it's not $60) is so I can have an endless supply of weird creatures to draw. :doge

Just get a mirror and sketch yourself from various angles  :aweshum
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« Reply #24222 on: August 11, 2016, 02:18:09 PM »
Well I'm going to name the most distinguished mentally-challenged looking animals I find in NMS after both 213372bu and mormapope. That'll increase my value by at least a few dollars.  :doge

Go find a sea creature that won't shut up and name it Squiddy Pls, pls.
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« Reply #24223 on: August 11, 2016, 02:21:12 PM »
Well I'm going to name the most distinguished mentally-challenged looking animals I find in NMS after both 213372bu and mormapope. That'll increase my value by at least a few dollars.  :doge

Please spread my seed for me  :noah
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« Reply #24224 on: August 11, 2016, 02:29:35 PM »
small indie game

$60

I've put in more hours and had more fun with NMS so far than I've had with "proper" $60 AAA games that I've played in the past.

People need to stop this "indie games should be $10" bullshit thinking. The product price shouldn't be determined by the dev team size...


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« Reply #24225 on: August 11, 2016, 02:42:22 PM »
Wow everyone really got a hate boner for a small indie game.

I hope NMS is good but then I never really had any illusion that it would be a game of great gameplay depth.

A simple game for space exploration nerds like me who would just enjoy the atmosphere of it and not really care about gameplay.

But it's not even this.  What kind of exploration involves no mapping or charting?  You find something cool on a planet and there is literally no way to return to it unless you get incredibly lucky.  The exploration is maybe the shallowest part of the game.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24226 on: August 11, 2016, 02:53:03 PM »
You will tick the boxes, human.

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« Reply #24227 on: August 11, 2016, 02:55:00 PM »
posted in the no man's sky review thread



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« Reply #24228 on: August 11, 2016, 02:55:44 PM »
You will tick the boxes, human.

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« Reply #24229 on: August 11, 2016, 03:01:23 PM »
Liu Kang Baking A Pie banned. Probabaly for this post in that 'yellowface' thread

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This is the whitest post.

Probably just a slap on the wrist.

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« Reply #24230 on: August 11, 2016, 03:12:09 PM »
Liu Kang Baking A Pie banned. Probabaly for this post in that 'yellowface' thread

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This is the whitest post.

Probably just a slap on the wrist.

Wow, I figured that guy was ban proof from all the shit he gets away with.

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« Reply #24231 on: August 11, 2016, 03:14:26 PM »
LKBAP is a white guy, right?  That's a lot of self hate


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« Reply #24233 on: August 11, 2016, 03:34:09 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213282381&postcount=218

A dozen people on twitter poking fun at an ideology is triggering AF.

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« Reply #24234 on: August 11, 2016, 03:46:58 PM »
I guess I am a misogynist because I think thawing out old franchises and making them GRRL POWR is super fucking cynical and lame.

Mad Max was done the right way.

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« Reply #24235 on: August 11, 2016, 03:51:01 PM »
I guess I am a misogynist because I think thawing out old franchises and making them GRRL POWR is super fucking cynical and lame.

I mean, I don't personally care what they decide to reboot and with what gender, but it should be insulting, but for some reason it isn't. It's basically telling women and girls that they don't deserve the difficult task of new or unique characters. I'm seriously baffled that these weak reboots are the new feminist battleground. It's pathetic.

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« Reply #24236 on: August 11, 2016, 03:53:08 PM »
They're cynical cash ins.  Enough of them will flop and you will never see the concept again.
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« Reply #24237 on: August 11, 2016, 03:56:56 PM »
it's cute when people expect pricing in a market economy to follow any coherent logic :doge
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« Reply #24238 on: August 11, 2016, 03:57:49 PM »
I'm fine with it as long as it makes a good work :yeshrug
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« Reply #24239 on: August 11, 2016, 04:04:41 PM »


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