The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[nudemacusers]

i legit had to scroll back up to make sure i didn't write that for some random reason     

[thisismyusername]

Mario Kart

The only legit rebuke, too bad that's not enough to buy a Nintendo console in 2XXX.

[Dennis]

I just dropped my iPhone 6 on the pavement. Cracked the screen good and proper.

 

[Vertigo]

Sony giving Nintendo a run for its money for the worst reveal this month. Who'd have thought ? 

Wasn't No Man's Sky last month tho?

Meanwhile

(Image removed from quote.)

I was wondering why Sony fanboys were getting so mad at that tweet. Then I saw how upset a lot of gaf is with the PS4 Pro.  At least we know why Sony didn't reveal this at E3. The fanboys would have dragged them over the hot Coles demanding spec upgrades to match Scorpio.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Sony whiffs it, Nintendo puts Mario on phones, everyone's unhappy. As someone who hates videogamers, the only way today could get better would be if Scorpio got announced at 600$ or some such shit. Anyone who's miserable over this shit deserves to every ounce. I love it

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

This is the last console generation, it might as well end in a blaze of glory than a whimper

[Dennis]

Tabris is back. I actually he had been permed. Well, good for him.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=176739903&postcount=7

Him and NintendosBooger can educate GAF on how to get ahead in life.

[benjipwns]

He was in the one thread knocking on the US for not having certain things in its elections like public funding or limited donations to candidates like first world countries ala Canada. He didn't seem to understand when I pointed out that the US has had all that for 40 years but candidates aren't required to take public funding. (And nobody has since Obama and Hillary opted out in 2008.)

[Rman]

GAF is so out of touch lol.  No one cares about physical media for movies anymore. DVD still outsells BR. No one is gonna bite for UHD Blurays.  Sony made the right choice.

[parallax]

Tabris is back. I actually he had been permed. Well, good for him.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=176739903&postcount=7

Him and NintendosBooger can educate GAF on how to get ahead in life.

i would love to see this happen

[thisismyusername]

GAF is so out of touch lol.  No one cares about physical media for movies anymore. DVD still outsells BR. No one is gonna bite for UHD Blurays.  Sony made the right choice.

Exactly. The only reason Blu-ray is even in the PS4 at this point is because gamers would've balked at a digital future like PC a few years ago.

Watch next-gen completely drop physical formats. But only IF the broadband throughput is increased.

[Rahxephon91]

Better not drop physical media with these limits Comcast is setting up.

[bluemax]

With the amount of day one patches, physical media is practically pointless at this point anyhow.

This reminds me that I was telling my co-workers about being able to walk in to the store and point at games we worked on when I started in the industry, less than a decade ago. Most of them have only ever worked on digital releases.

[Let's Cyber]

GAF is so out of touch lol.  No one cares about physical media for movies anymore. DVD still outsells BR. No one is gonna bite for UHD Blurays.  Sony made the right choice.

The digital future is now 

I've bought one physical game this gen and it was only because I was house sitting and they had terrible internet. 

[nudemacusers]

physical media 

3.5 headphone jacks 

[mormapope]

Physical games will go away when service based things like EA Access become the main way of making money. Right now enough people buy games for $60 day one or week one, if or when people as a whole grow out of that, providing a baseline amount of games for monthly fee will be the main way of getting that cash back.

We're getting to that point a lot quicker than most realize. Game development has slowed down to a crawl, offering a library of games to people while the next big hit is brewing could help with development costs.

[bluemax]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1275199

So what the fuck is the point of this thing?  The forward compatibility list isn't that great either (No Bloodborne, Witcher 3?) and the quality of the improvements is going to vary a lot from game to game. 

Sony 

It's been a lot of fun watching people get worked up over the PS4.25 for the last couple of months, only for the payoff today.

[thisismyusername]

Physical games will go away when service based things like EA Access become the main way of making money. Right now enough people buy games for $60 day one or week one, if or when people as a whole grow out of that, providing a baseline amount of games for monthly fee will be the main way of getting that cash back.

We're getting to that point a lot quicker than most realize. Game development has slowed down to a crawl, offering a library of games to people while the next big hit is brewing could help with development costs.

Subbing to publishers is when I go full-on emulation. Paying $60 a year to play 1-2 titles from each publisher is just a "no" for me.


ANYWAY, Mupepe: This is the sex toy I was trying to find.

[I'm a Puppy!]

The last page or so

Current gen stupidity 
Ninty stans crying about mobile mario
Sony stans on meltdown mode
Stans about physical media in 2016
Suddenly, a pegging toy appears

[thisismyusername]

Gotta spice it up like a finger in your booty, Ronito.

In other unrelated stuff:

I'm almost 31, and I'm having trouble getting a foot in the door in the game development industry, either in design or in QA. I'm not sure what to make of it, besides perhaps having bad luck and poor timing. The closest I've come was an internship that unfortunately fell through, and some recruiter job interviews that went well, but faltered when the higher ups got my resumé, most likely due to lack of experience; the classic catch 22.

No one has said as much, but I've been thinking that maybe it looks strange that someone who's 30+ is applying for junior and/or associate positions? But on the other hand, applying for a senior role is completely out of the question due to the experience requirements (and I wouldn't be comfortable applying for those jobs right now anyway). Maybe I'm just having a lot of bad luck? I know there's a ton of pressure on all open positions, worldwide. There's always someone else with a tiny bit more experience it seems, even for the most basic of positions.

I mean, by all means chase that dream. But: at wanting to get into development after the numerous industry problems of crunch time and not seeing family.

[mormapope]

Physical games will go away when service based things like EA Access become the main way of making money. Right now enough people buy games for $60 day one or week one, if or when people as a whole grow out of that, providing a baseline amount of games for monthly fee will be the main way of getting that cash back.

We're getting to that point a lot quicker than most realize. Game development has slowed down to a crawl, offering a library of games to people while the next big hit is brewing could help with development costs.

Subbing to publishers is when I go full-on emulation. Paying $60 a year to play 1-2 titles from each publisher is just a "no" for me.


ANYWAY, Mupepe: This is the sex toy I was trying to find.

For the price to be justified, it'll either have to be a library of games you get complete access to, or the games themselves become even more service based and oriented.

It'll come down to CoD fans choosing if they want to pay $15 a month for access to every single new thing added for the next two years for the game, and not own anything unless they're subscribed. Or choosing to plop down $100-$200 to own all the content as it comes out overtime.

[Jansen]

Watching sfegs lose their shit is still the best

[thisismyusername]

Eh, CoD hasn't reached that AFAIK. It's Battlefield that does the $120 a year for it's releases now with Premium.

For me, $60 a year isn't worth it when I'm playing maybe 1-4 new titles between 2-3 publishers. Then throw in that I'm paying $60 a year for 3-5 publishers (Activision maybe, Ubisoft, EA, Capcom...) it adds up to more than I'd pay for the new title (on sale) and DLC.

[bluemax]

Gotta spice it up like a finger in your booty, Ronito.

In other unrelated stuff:

I'm almost 31, and I'm having trouble getting a foot in the door in the game development industry, either in design or in QA. I'm not sure what to make of it, besides perhaps having bad luck and poor timing. The closest I've come was an internship that unfortunately fell through, and some recruiter job interviews that went well, but faltered when the higher ups got my resumé, most likely due to lack of experience; the classic catch 22.

No one has said as much, but I've been thinking that maybe it looks strange that someone who's 30+ is applying for junior and/or associate positions? But on the other hand, applying for a senior role is completely out of the question due to the experience requirements (and I wouldn't be comfortable applying for those jobs right now anyway). Maybe I'm just having a lot of bad luck? I know there's a ton of pressure on all open positions, worldwide. There's always someone else with a tiny bit more experience it seems, even for the most basic of positions.

I mean, by all means chase that dream. But: at wanting to get into development after the numerous industry problems of crunch time and not seeing family.

It's not impossible to get in at his age, albeit a lot harder as a designer than something like a programmer or artist. I mean he's 31 and looking at sub $50k a year jobs, so I'm guessing he doesn't have a family or significant other to worry about.

[thisismyusername]

Yeah, that's my point. I mean it's fine for him to chase it, but he's looking at a industry that has massive burnout and various problems (hours, crunch time and general treatment of employees) at 30 that'd I'd and recommend he look elsewhere, personally. Especially for the pay and due to the treatment.

[benjipwns]

The rest of that post is even better

Experience wise, I've got more than 10 hobby projects of various scope in my portfolio. I've done gameplay design and a lot of level design, project planning and leading, with some scripting and a fair amount of QA testing. These projects have ranged from three to 15+ people across all disciplines. Back in 2010, I went to a university and studied game design, and I took several courses outside my program in both C++ and C#, to up my job chances. In 2014 I finished my Master's degree. Degrees rarely matter, I know, but they do show that I've had four years of training in relevant tools, and my portfolio supports that fact. Maybe the title is scaring companies away, but it's not like I demand an extra high salary because of it or anything. It's been a few years now but I'm regularly keeping up with the engines and tech to stay competitive and going to game jams as often as I can.

I've also been a QA intern at a local games studio, which was surprisingly fun and rewarding, contrary to popular belief. I'd so love to do either QA, level design or gameplay design, but so far, nobody's been interested, for various reasons, and it's bringing me down honestly. After my Master's, I spent a year and a half studying psychological coaching (partly thanks to GAF's Dating-Age community) while applying for work wherever I found it. Although seemingly quite unrelated, those studies could only help with interpersonal relations and interactions, which is pretty central to development. Although I'm in Sweden, I have no qualms about moving abroad, if that's what it takes. In fact, I'd welcome it any day.

Several designers and recruiters I've talked to have shown interest and praised my portfolio as great for applying for the jobs I want, but yet, I can't seem to reach the finish line even though I interview great. I could get better at going to GDC and such events to get personal connections, but I've had plenty of references from either work or classmates currently working at the places I'm applying to, and it hasn't helped so far.

---

Could it be my age? Ageism seems pretty common in IT, but even at just 30? I also have a fairly strange surname, but I have no idea if that's a problem. I've been thinking that my portfolio isn't up to snuff. There is a noticeable lack of fancy graphics in it, but I'm no artist either. And like I said, I've gotten praise for it, so I figure it must be something else. I'm currently trying to flesh it out with some Skyrim modding, in an attempt to bring some more graphical quality to my site.

I don't know if ageism at 30 is a thing or not, but it is a thing at higher numbers, from what I've read around the web. Terrible thing.

[thisismyusername]

If he's in Sweden, the only company I know there is DICE for big-name developers. I'm sure there's maybe a few mobile developers and indies there if he looked. I know there's a few mobile companies a country or so over in Finland. Not too sure about AAA/Indie.

If he has C++ and C# skills, he should look into volunteering those skills with an internship somewhere?

[Let's Cyber]

I spent a year and a half studying psychological coaching (partly thanks to GAF's Dating-Age community)

I spent a year and a half studying psychological coaching (partly thanks to GAF's Dating-Age community)

I spent a year and a half studying psychological coaching (partly thanks to GAF's Dating-Age community)

Edit:  Didn't see it was Minamu, he's a good guy.  Still, that sentence 

[WanderingWind]

I can't make too much fun of people flipping out about Sony's crap showing. Apple's conference had me heated as fuck last night. I'm still pissed that I'm going to have to switch ecosystems because Apple decided I can't charge my phone and use it at the same time. Fucking shitheads. 

[bluemax]

If he's in Sweden, the only company I know there is DICE for big-name developers. I'm sure there's maybe a few mobile developers and indies there if he looked. I know there's a few mobile companies a country or so over in Finland. Not too sure about AAA/Indie.

If he has C++ and C# skills, he should look into volunteering those skills with an internship somewhere?

I dunno the Swedish scene at all but he's not gonna get a job at DICE unless he has an amazing portfolio of Battlefield mods.

He should be applying to smaller, no name studios, but remember that he is competing for entry level jobs with people who likely are younger, cheaper, and have a better understanding of the things the studios actually want than he does.

It's not even about ageism, if I'm hiring for an entry level position and one guy has a masters and little to no relevant experience for my field, and the other candidate has a bachelor's in the field, I'd take the guy with the bachelor's because he's probably going to come with a lot less attitude and be more easily trainable.

A friend of mine is the hiring QA manager at an interactive media company (vr/advergaming stuff) and he says he gets people like this all the time who are excessively overeducated but unskilled in the needed areas for the role. I think honestly for any job, if you have a lot of experience or education in a different area there's always some inherent bias by the hiring manager that they assume you will be likely to jump ship for something more suited towards what you know, especially if it offers pay more commensurate with your experience/education.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216250401&postcount=51

No and I don't understand the constant whining of people who do.
If you're in an area where you can charge your phone are you really that far from an actual computer?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216252078&postcount=103

I clearly want to spread my music library over multiple computers, ensuring that I can't go further in a playlist from where I stopped every time I switch platforms.

Sync your music library/use a streaming service.
It's not rocket science.

 
Holy hell, go eat a dick Apple stans. Yes it is actually pretty common to have power sockets without a computer around. Not all computers can be used at your leisure either.

All that to force people into buying 160$ earbuds.

[WanderingWind]

I want to know where that guy lives that he has unlimited data on a secure enough connection that works everywhere to include his place of business, which I'm guessing isn't in anything resembling a modern office building, which are generally filled with enough concrete to restrict or even entirely block LTE/4G signals.

I travel a lot for work. I have to use my GPS almost every day, which drains the shit out of the already crappy battery. Now, I get to choose between utter silence or knowing where the fuck I'm going. The more I think about it, the more on tilt I get.

[VomKriege]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=216117363

My ex password was shitty anyway, so that only makes me half a creep, right ?

[VomKriege]

GAFfers teasing an obviously unhinged and bitter dude not thinking straight into "dropping the bomb" for the lulz is also despicable.

[Tasty]

GAF is so out of touch lol.  No one cares about physical media for movies anymore. DVD still outsells BR. No one is gonna bite for UHD Blurays.  Sony made the right choice.

The digital future is now 

I've bought one physical game this gen and it was only because I was house sitting and they had terrible internet.

physical media 

Going all digital

In the process of giving away/selling my (modest) Blu-ray collection at the moment too

[archie4208]

GAF is so out of touch lol.  No one cares about physical media for movies anymore. DVD still outsells BR. No one is gonna bite for UHD Blurays.  Sony made the right choice.

Exactly. The only reason Blu-ray is even in the PS4 at this point is because gamers would've balked at a digital future like PC a few years ago.

Watch next-gen completely drop physical formats. But only IF the broadband throughput is increased.

Not while bandwidth caps still exist. 

[doctavius bonbon]

I'll be about that all digital life when I can download 100gb 4K movies in a reasonable timeframe.

[VomKriege]

All digital on broadcast content.
As pointless as a SUV to go shop your groceries in a suburban neighboorhood.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'm on board too though it's mostly a budget decision : I'm still buying books, would be glad to do so with films if I had the money and space, which I don't. Anyway, image fidelity never was the main point for consumers, they're probably content with the quality bump they have now.

The arms race to produce 4k (and soon higher) TVs is both sad and hilarious when you realize the content manufacturing chain is barely keeping up.

[close]

[Take My Breh Away]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1275525

Sony stan trying to claim the PS4 pro is better than PC gaming and getting owned in the rest of the thread

I have a 980ti, 4790K, 16 GB RAM machine and I feel even that won't be enough to get the clean IQ we saw yesterday :

[Cerveza mas fina]

Dude is banned now

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1275477
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1275483

"Checkerboard 4k rendering" is the new Blast Processing. Expect to see those words a lot in any future PS4 Pro thread.

[benjipwns]

All my games are stuttery as fuck and will never be as smooth as Uncharted 4 for example.

I have a really nice rig that does native 4K, and on many titles this gem I have doubled dipped, getting the PS4/XBO version to play with friends, and the PC version to play at 4K.

Now the Pro won't hit the level of fidelity my PC does, but it will close the gap enough that double dipping won't seem necessary.

And all you haven't even paid attention to the fact I was taking the cost in mind. I'm saying, since that checkerboard 4k renderer is looking pretty good, I'd rather buy a PS4pro rather than upgrade my PC in the future.

Since all you seem to have infinite money, go ahead and buy your incredible expensive rigs.

Are you guys stupid ?! I meant a 30 fps lock ! Of course I can't get more than 30 fps. But I'd rather max my games and lock to 30 fps than have it fluctuate at 40-50 fps.

You can get 60 fps in "most games" at 1080P Sure.

I was talking about 4K.

I can't get a consistent 4K30fps experience on my TV with my PC because locking at 30 fps is a fucking pain on PC.

Even 1440P makes me lose the consistent 60 fps.

I can't stand fluctuating fps, the stuttering is TERRIBLE. I'd rather lock it at 30 fps IF I COULD.

And I'd rather max the setting and run it at 30 fps than compromising and lowering stuff like AA and shadows to get 60 fps. But its' my choice.

After seeing the incredible IQ Horizon provides on PS4pro, my first thought was "no way I can achieve that on PC without spending 2000€ or more "

can we go back to 256x224 frames at 15 of them per second with 4kb of textures im scared of the future

[benjipwns]

It's nothing like a standard upscale though, reconstruction is a better term.

[benjipwns]

Your comment don't even make sense. how is it not a more efficient way to get 4K when they are achieving 4K when everyone said they couldn't?

[benjipwns]

Because native 4K looks way better and will continue to be achievable by cheaper and cheaper gpu's going forward.

This is the thing that might well stop it happening. GPU manufacturers want to keep selling new GPU's and keep people upgrading. This wouldn't help them towards that goal.

[Tasty]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216240927&postcount=658

I'm angered beyond belief that Microsoft has won this battle.

[VomKriege]

Also, I'm not a specialist, but rendering alternatively half an image isn't especially a novel idea. Isn't that what interlacing is ?

[Tasty]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=216194661#post216194661

[Cerveza mas fina]

Its just lame Sony is back to the 4D Emotion Engine level of BS, after the PS4 reveal was so smooth and realistic.

[benjipwns]

Also, I'm not a specialist, but rendering alternatively half an image isn't especially a novel idea. Isn't that what interlacing is ?

What's different about this (and Valve and Ubisoft's similar methods) is that we now have the computing power to on the fly do it almost per pixel rather than more general fields (as was very often the case in the PS2 era) or lines with very little framerate hit in comparison. It makes the "reconstruction" less glaring even when you're adding like six times the pixels. Also doesn't limit you as much in some of the buffer effects you can do I believe because the ordering before the frame is finished is different.

It's also part of why nVidia has had going back like six or more generations on their cards where it can basically seamlessly run games at absurd resolutions internally and downsample to your monitors resolution (1080p in my case on both monitors...while GeForce Experience suggests a DSR of 4K minimum for something like CS:GO) since it has so many unused clocks compared to things like last gen consoles running games at 600p and upscaling to 720p. Or current gen games at 900p upscaling to 1080p. They haven't had the need to come up with an advanced method that does the opposite as their power has spent like a decade being untapped for most high-end users who wanted stuff like downsampling, ten different forms of more AA and dynamic v-syncs. Even still, their main problem versus consoles is more of a component of the system/video RAM bottleneck than raw compute power on either end which is why the jump between cards performance with console based titles feels more about getting up to 8+ GB onboard than it has been since we were tinkering with 32/64MB on board in the stone age with TNT2's. (This paragraph more directed at the comments in the one thread how nVidia will put the kibosh on the "reconstructions" in order to keep selling more powerful cards as if PC gamers are going to settle for medium settings upscaled, excuse me, reconstructed into 4K rather than trying to burn their blue smoke that makes computers work out of the boards.)

[benjipwns]

Rainbow Six Siege despite all the pooh-poohing in the GAF threads actually is a great example if you have it on PC because you can run the benchmark with it and see how little framerate hit it does and how hard to notice it is, even on a PC monitor, even with a 760 or earlier. Especially in comparison to more traditional methods used by other titles.

It's far from ideal if you have the extra power, but it's quite fancy and interesting. Especially compared to how the first Call of Duty games with it (BOII, Ghosts, AW) do their more traditional version which can just destroy frame rates on certain maps.

I find it more like dynamic vsync in that I'll fiddle with it at least to see if it "feels" better despite the 2 fps or so hit even when I'm running the rest as intended and dump it if not. Even in Siege it does work better with some maps compared to others, I assume that's all ultimately related to the destructibility effects somehow. Even though I have no proof of this. Those maps just might be tougher to occlude things on.

[VomKriege]

Thanks for the details. I'm sure it's a neat trick and that it produces good results. I'm not really one to say 4096p or bust  . Fidelity from source to current broadcast techniques is already a fairly complex matter in film, no matter how transparent it is for the end customer. It's just that if the question is the arbitrary "Will it output process native 4k for the most important games ?", the answer is straightforward, whatever you call the process used to blow the resolution.

[Take My Breh Away]

Its just lame Sony is back to the 4D Emotion Engine level of BS, after the PS4 reveal was so smooth and realistic.

Bullfuck. That was arrogant Sony and they always had something to show off before being cut down by their hubris.

This was "We have no fucking idea what we're doing and under pressure from every other department in the company to fit into their business plans oh god shove out something labeled 4K at the cheapest price point possible" Sony

The fuckery from the fallout is insane though. Sony managed to kill off most of its goodwill from 2013 in only a month. It's impressive, even. 

[benjipwns]

Thanks for the details. I'm sure it's a neat trick and that it produces good results. I'm not really one to say 4096p or bust  . Fidelity from source to current broadcast techniques is already a fairly complex matter in film, no matter how transparent it is for the end customer. It's just that if the question is the arbitrary "Will it output process native 4k for the most important games ?", the answer is straightforward, whatever you call the process used to blow the resolution.

best part is that it's only 3840 x 2160 or what we'd call 2160p by normal resolution conventions ala 480p, 720p, 1080p

[Cerveza mas fina]

You would think that PS being the only department that is doing well it would be THEM putting on the pressure on other departments to fit into their plans, not the other way around and fuck with your cashcow.

[benjipwns]

Sony is one of the companies pushing to make 4K replace 1080p as the new standard by the end of 2017 much like they pushed HD a decade ago.

Personally, I don't consider it TRUE HD until we hit at least 8K or 4320p. At which point I will upscale my opinion.

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 is going to be shot in 8K as some kind of test.

This was apparently the first film to be restored and released in 8K even though there's nothing to play it on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baraka_(film)

Following previous DVD releases, in 2007 the original 65 mm negative was re-scanned at 8K resolution with equipment designed specifically for Baraka at FotoKem Laboratories. The automated 8K film scanner, operating continuously, took more than three weeks to finish scanning more than 150,000 frames (taking approximately 12–13 seconds to scan each frame), producing over 30 terabytes of image data in total. After a 16-month digital intermediate process, including a 96 kHz/24 bit audio remaster by Stearns for the DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack of the film, the result was re-released on DVD and Blu-ray Disc in October 2008. At the time, project supervisor Andrew Oran described this remastered Baraka as "arguably the highest quality DVD that's ever been made".[2] Chicago Sun-Times critic Roger Ebert described the Blu-ray release as "the finest video disc I have ever viewed or ever imagined."

Roger Ebert included the film in his "Great Movies" list, writing that "If man sends another Voyager to the distant stars and it can carry only one film on board, that film might be Baraka."

[VomKriege]

Thanks for the details. I'm sure it's a neat trick and that it produces good results. I'm not really one to say 4096p or bust  . Fidelity from source to current broadcast techniques is already a fairly complex matter in film, no matter how transparent it is for the end customer. It's just that if the question is the arbitrary "Will it output process native 4k for the most important games ?", the answer is straightforward, whatever you call the process used to blow the resolution.

best part is that it's only 3840 x 2160 or what we'd call 2160p by normal resolution conventions ala 480p, 720p, 1080p

Yeah sorry, I used (one of) the horizontal resolution common value for 4k instead of the normalized way of designing them.

[benjipwns]

I think it's part of a deliberate marketing confusion though. 0.48K (the original HD! for video games anyway) -> 0.72K (HD) -> 1.08K (Full HD) -> 2.16K (Ultra HD) is less impressive than leaping to "4K." Even though both misrepresent how many more pixels there are with each expansion.

[benjipwns]

0.48K (the original HD! for video games anyway)

LIAR:

[VomKriege]

Sony is one of the companies pushing to make 4K replace 1080p as the new standard by the end of 2017 much like they pushed HD a decade ago.

Personally, I don't consider it TRUE HD until we hit at least 8K or 4320p. At which point I will upscale my opinion.

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 is going to be shot in 8K as some kind of test.

This was apparently the first film to be restored and released in 8K even though there's nothing to play it on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baraka_(film)

Beware : "Shot or scanned in X resolution" doesn't mean the post production was done at that format. My Fair Lady was scanned in 8k but restored in 4k, for instance, IIRC (see http://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/exclusive-interview-robert-a-harris-kevin-koster-on-the-restoration-of-my-fair-lady.343285/), same for Ben-Hur. It's always beneficial to have the best scan possible, even if you end up downscaling it throughout post.

Maybe I'm wrong but I'm a bit skeptical over Baraka being done in 8k all the way through in 2010 or so... 4k 16bits DPX images are still a bitch to work with today even on a horse of a station. Also, film is generally scanned full frame with the blanking, so you lose quite a few pixels when you frame it (which is why it's better to scan a little above the target resolution).

EDIT : As far as I can tell, the 8k scan for Baraka wasn't stored and they only have a HD master at this point in time, which would make sense.