The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

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True.

[bork]

I only meant that VF is my 3d fg series and now that it's dead, I'm going with Tekken as my 3d fg. Not that it was literally comparable. A lot of VF fans are doing similar. At the tourney I watched, there was an entire group of VF players wrecking shit. Tekken isn't a literal replacement, but they're similar enough to scratch that itch.

Try DOA5LR.  You can get the F2P version called Core Fighters for PS4.

[bork]

Namco isn't doing anything differently with Tekken 7 than how they handled Tekken 6 and Tag 2.  They give the arcade versions time to 'grow' and make money, then release updated versions for the home platforms. 

VF is dead. Time to accept it. Tekken 7 looks dope as fuck. You clearly haven't seen it. The stage design is straight piff. There's this nutso Arab stage dude, and I need that game. Too much Gloria tho.

I've played Tekken 7.  It's pretty good but there's nothing to get hyped up over.  It also doesn't feel finished--

Problem with Tekken 7 is the arcade version is about to be nine months old and there still isn't a release date for consoles. Namco has to be huffing poop to not prioritize a console version.

Probably gonna release an updated version for arcade then port that to consoles like 6

--And this is what I suspect will happen, too.  They're taking their sweet time and slowly updating the arcade version.

[nachobro]

Are the VF characters in DOA any good?

[bork]

Yup.  You can do a lot of the same stuff, too.

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Don't like DOA

[bork]

Don't like DOA

Try Core Fighters.  DOA5 is not like the previous versions.  No more Itagaki...which is a good thing.

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Was thinking:

Main game(s) - SFIV, SFV
Sub game(s) - BlazBlue, Tekken 7

I think that's enough honestly.

[mormapope]

The number of fighters that got released last gen or ported 

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And yet ps2 is still the GOAT fighter system. Pretty amazing.

[mormapope]

I'd say that's debatable. Dreamcast had a lot of fighters ported to other consoles, OG Xbox got similar port collections that the PS2 had. Main exclusives on PS2 were Virtua Fighter and Tekken. Gamecube got royally fucked out of fighting games, trying to make a fighter based on that controller would be a nightmare. 

Last gen the 360 and PS3 pretty much share the same pool of fighters, along with any ports getting released on both and now on Steam. 

[Joe Molotov]

Saturn w/4MB Ram Cartridge tho

[thisismyusername]

Are the VF characters in DOA any good?

Yes. IIRC they basically ported their VF5 movesets over. Akira's knee is still 1-frame.

It doesn't hurt that DOA literally is just a lifting of VF's systems in a fashion with the 3-button system. PKG is PKHold in DOA.

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I'd say that's debatable. Dreamcast had a lot of fighters ported to other consoles, OG Xbox got similar port collections that the PS2 had. Main exclusives on PS2 were Virtua Fighter and Tekken. Gamecube got royally fucked out of fighting games, trying to make a fighter based on that controller would be a nightmare. 

Last gen the 360 and PS3 pretty much share the same pool of fighters, along with any ports getting released on both and now on Steam.

You may be right. I forgot the sheer amount of awesome shit 360/ps3 had. 360 especially. A lot of the stuff on ps2 that gave it an edge like SF33S or Darkstalkers Collection or Garou are also on 360. Though 360 doesn't have Vampire Saviour. That is on PSN, however.

[nachobro]

Dreamcast has CVS2 and the best console version of Super Turbo. But PS2 has CVS2 and TTT.

This is a tough choice 

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And why I just bought arcade cabinets 

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DC CVS2 > PS2 CVS2?

One of my dream things for a while has been to have an arcade cab in my kitchen and hooked up to MAME.

PS2 has all of those SNK collections.

The Last Blade 2? Not on 360/ps3. I still think ps2 edges out. If we're talking classic fighters, it's definitely the go to choice.

[nachobro]

DC CVS2 > PS2 CVS2?

One of my dream things for a while has been to have an arcade cab in my kitchen and hooked up to MAME.

DC version is better than PS2 in some slight ways, mainly brighter colors and better resolution if you use VGA, but they play the same. The Xbox and Gamecube ports are no bueno

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DC CVS2 > PS2 CVS2?

One of my dream things for a while has been to have an arcade cab in my kitchen and hooked up to MAME.

DC version is better than PS2 in some slight ways, mainly brighter colors and better resolution if you use VGA, but they play the same. The Xbox and Gamecube ports are no bueno

 

CVS2 is the GOAT despite being  a broken mess. Don't ask me how.

[nachobro]

Tell me about it. I salvaged a Naomi cabinet and have been working on the damn thing for months (slowly) just so I can play CVS2 on it.

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Back when developers gave a shit about game music. I can't think of a memorable theme in SFIV that isn't a remix.

[nachobro]

Juri's theme is pretty good, but that might just be because I've heard it so many times when playing her. The training mode song is 100% though

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Juri's theme is pretty good, but that might just be because I've heard it so many times when playing her. The training mode song is 100% though

Actually, thinking of it, the best song in the game is completely hidden and you have to go out of your way to listen to it.

[mormapope]

The best song in SFIV:

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The best song in SFIV:

[nachobro]

the actual best song in sf4

[mormapope]

That's how good/how bad the SFIV soundtrack is.

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Nah.

I'm not feeling the stages in SFV so far. They're all so colorful and same-y. What happened to stuff like the Ryu snow stage or the grass stage in SFA2? Or Sagat's? Thinking of it, that game probably had the best overall stages in the series. I realize Ono's team doesn't have all the talent behind it that they had on SF teams 20 years ago but still. They're using UE4. How come they're not using the tools that come within the engine to make exciting new stages? There has to be a rain stage. Has to be. 

[nachobro]

Kanzuki Estate is good but yeah the others are weak

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That stage looks fantastic and is SF as fuck.

I like the Brazil stage.

I just got SF4 on ps4. Fight moi.

[thisismyusername]

I'm not feeling the stages in SFV so far. They're all so colorful and same-y. What happened to stuff like the Ryu snow stage or the grass stage in SFA2? Or Sagat's? Thinking of it, that game probably had the best overall stages in the series. I realize Ono's team doesn't have all the talent behind it that they had on SF teams 20 years ago but still. They're using UE4. How come they're not using the tools that come within the engine to make exciting new stages? There has to be a rain stage. Has to be. 

Screw  the stages. Why the hell isn't Ono lifting Arc System Work's UE3(?) tech for Guilty Gear Xrd and making Street Fighter 5's art-style look like that. AKA: I want my damn sprite-look back. :'(

[mormapope]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1150587

Watching the 2015 video game awards show, I was truly disgusted at the various twitch chat posts.

For example:

- Folks saying certain games were "AIDS". I mean what the hell? So anything they deem negative now is referenced as AIDS?

- The total lack of respect during the Iwata speech

- The constant use of such terms as REKT, SELLOUTS etc..

- The constant use of GRILL (girl), "show me your ass" "nice tits" etc... Total lack of respect

- Just the overall juvenile way of speaking

YES, I can ignore the chat but there is a deeper problem here. The Internet has allowed folks to go too far in various situations. If Twitch as a propriety had any balls, they would go and look at ways to clean this shit up

 

Chat that is anonymous is shitty or crude, who would've thunk.

[benjipwns]

- The total lack of respect during the Iwata speech

[mormapope]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187847844&postcount=675

I guess we won't be seeing Kojima at PSX then. #FuckKonami because I didn't think they could do anything more to hurt their image.

 

Also, why the fuck would he be at PSX? Has he been working on a secret game at his home that Konami doesn't know about and wants to showcase it? PSX is Sony's own E3, why would he need to be there if he doesn't have anything new to show?

[Stoney Mason]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1150587

Watching the 2015 video game awards show, I was truly disgusted at the various twitch chat posts.

For example:

- Folks saying certain games were "AIDS". I mean what the hell? So anything they deem negative now is referenced as AIDS?

- The total lack of respect during the Iwata speech

- The constant use of such terms as REKT, SELLOUTS etc..

- The constant use of GRILL (girl), "show me your ass" "nice tits" etc... Total lack of respect

- Just the overall juvenile way of speaking

YES, I can ignore the chat but there is a deeper problem here. The Internet has allowed folks to go too far in various situations. If Twitch as a propriety had any balls, they would go and look at ways to clean this shit up

 

Chat that is anonymous is shitty or crude, who would've thunk.

Guys I just discovered this thing called the internet where people are anonymous and really rude and racist and sexist and immature... How are we gonna fix this?

 

[Your Stalker]

Urgent question!! Could I take legal action against reddit?

[parallax]

DC CVS2 > PS2 CVS2?

One of my dream things for a while has been to have an arcade cab in my kitchen and hooked up to MAME.

DC version is better than PS2 in some slight ways, mainly brighter colors and better resolution if you use VGA, but they play the same. The Xbox and Gamecube ports are no bueno

 

CVS2 is the GOAT despite being  a broken mess. Don't ask me how.

match of the millenium is the best svc/cvs game. its a shame it was a portable when that ass chaos had an arcade release

[Take My Breh Away]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1150587

Watching the 2015 video game awards show, I was truly disgusted at the various twitch chat posts.

For example:

- Folks saying certain games were "AIDS". I mean what the hell? So anything they deem negative now is referenced as AIDS?

- The total lack of respect during the Iwata speech

- The constant use of such terms as REKT, SELLOUTS etc..

- The constant use of GRILL (girl), "show me your ass" "nice tits" etc... Total lack of respect

- Just the overall juvenile way of speaking

YES, I can ignore the chat but there is a deeper problem here. The Internet has allowed folks to go too far in various situations. If Twitch as a propriety had any balls, they would go and look at ways to clean this shit up

 

Chat that is anonymous is shitty or crude, who would've thunk.

Not having twitch chat set off as default

Also Bloodborne didn't win any awards. IT'S A CONSPIRACY!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187823295&postcount=9979

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187823325&postcount=9986

It can say hi all it wants, Bloodborne will slam the door in it's face and continue being the pinnacle of gameplay, art direction and sound design.

[mormapope]

Bloodborne is Dark Souls with less RPG build depth and more emphasis on aggression.

Dark Souls is a great action game with good roleplaying elements but its probably the most overrated videogame property by its own audience.

Videogames are an excellent way to entertain yourself, NeoGaf can turn that enjoyment into maddening agony due to people associated with the hobby. 

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187847844&postcount=675

That thread is pure gold. OP putting under spoiler the reward MGSV won (Really ?), hyperbole all around.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187819119&postcount=152

I think it's time for platform makers to stop distributing Konami products now. Someone needs to take a stand.

Free Sokolov Kojima !

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187822248&postcount=193

That shade from Jade to Keifer was unnecessary.

What happened? Edit: Just saw, she calls out David Hayter. Lame.

Shitty inside joke drama

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187827630&postcount=299

It's crazy they have that much control on him. Is this just a cultural difference or what?

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187834365&postcount=497


Breach of human rights surely.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187858440&postcount=816

Konami just became the #1 public enemy of the industry.

Do they even care ? Or does the "industry" designates everything but the publishers that are the industry ?

Don't get me wrong, Konami sounds like assholish employers (I would be morbidly curious to see the inside office culture) and good on Pope Geoff to call them out, but really in the end it is all just like Dave from accounting being forced to come on time and pretend to work until the last day of his contract despite the fact he has been relegated to a closet for 6 months and his contract to be terminated.

[mormapope]

The funny thing is, all it takes for people to turn on Kojima is him making a career move that doesn't align with fanboy fantasies.

He's an incredibly talented game designer that was put into a position to cater to a specific fanbase for a long time. People are acting out over Konami not giving a fuck, but soon enough Kojima will be able to do anything other than MGS.

[qq more]

It's twitch, the fuck did the OP expect?

- The total lack of respect during the Iwata speech

The funny thing is the chat was actually giving respect for Iwata for the most part. Lots of "F" and all. The GAF thread for TGA was actually less respectful if anything!

[kick51]

Anyway... Mauricio permed

fantastic_planet got 3 weeks, good trade for the KO.

[kick51]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1150587

Watching the 2015 video game awards show, I was truly disgusted at the various twitch chat posts.

For example:

- Folks saying certain games were "AIDS". I mean what the hell? So anything they deem negative now is referenced as AIDS?

- The total lack of respect during the Iwata speech

- The constant use of such terms as REKT, SELLOUTS etc..

- The constant use of GRILL (girl), "show me your ass" "nice tits" etc... Total lack of respect

- Just the overall juvenile way of speaking

YES, I can ignore the chat but there is a deeper problem here. The Internet has allowed folks to go too far in various situations. If Twitch as a propriety had any balls, they would go and look at ways to clean this shit up

 

Chat that is anonymous is shitty or crude, who would've thunk.

wow he's having a nervous breakdown about it 

[benjipwns]

The internet has allowed folks to go too far.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187867377&postcount=235

 

[kick51]

The best song in SFIV:

oh wow, been years since i've heard this.   Getting nostalgic about the SF4 launch.

[thisismyusername]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187867377&postcount=235

 

I wouldn't say "worst" but the lack of cross-play is absolutely a bummer. (While being totally obvious because it's Microsoft) It splits the playerbase from being one GIANT--there's like 50,000 or so players playing on weekends. I think that's the daily as well?--pool into two separate pools. There's also no reason to disable cross-play outside of spite against allowing X-box Live players to connect to the same service/servers that Playstation players play on when there's an option for players to make themselves to turn that off.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187867377&postcount=235

 

I wouldn't say "worst" but the lack of cross-play is absolutely a bummer. (While being totally obvious because it's Microsoft) It splits the playerbase from being one GIANT--there's like 50,000 or so players playing on weekends. I think that's the daily as well?--pool into two separate pools. There's also no reason to disable cross-play outside of spite against allowing X-box Live players to connect to the same service/servers that Playstation players play on when there's an option for players to make themselves to turn that off.

Look I won't argue that, it's stupid for MS not to include it.

What I am pointing out is that if I were to wade into a PS4 thread and say the same thing I'd probably get banned for a week for "console warfare" or whatever stupid shit the mods say nowadays.

[bork]

Was thinking:

Main game(s) - SFIV, SFV
Sub game(s) - BlazBlue, Tekken 7

I think that's enough honestly.

So in other words, you're just playing USF4 and maybe BB.  Try DOA5.  It's free.  FREE.  If you like it you can even just spend a few bucks to purchase the VF5 characters you like.  You don't have to buy the whole game and can buy stuff a la carte.

[bork]

PS2 has all of those SNK collections.

The Last Blade 2? Not on 360/ps3. I still think ps2 edges out. If we're talking classic fighters, it's definitely the go to choice.

The go-to choice for classic fighting games is playing them emulated on the platform of your choice.

The Last Blade collection on PS2 is hot, stinky garbage.  Framerate problems kill it. 

That said, the later SNK Neo-Geo collections on PS2 are good and it's nice to have the AES versions with Neo CD soundtracks and added training/versus modes, color edit, and all that good stuff.

[Tasty]

The best song in SFIV:

Nothin's gonna stop me now

[TakingBackSunday]

Am I the only one who doesn't give two shits about the whole Konami/Kojima thing?

The dude is under contract, wtf do people expect

[nachobro]

That stage looks fantastic and is SF as fuck.

I like the Brazil stage.

I just got SF4 on ps4. Fight moi.

The one system I didn't get SF4 for

[Tasty]

Urgent question!! Could I take legal action against reddit? (Image removed from quote.)

The downvotes

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Urgent question!! Could I take legal action against reddit? (Image removed from quote.)

(Image removed from quote.)

The downvotes

Read that earlier. My favorite part is where he literally asks "How much do you think I'm going to make out of this? I don't want to get fucked by a low settlement"

Ah to be young again....

[Tasty]

Dude's a 17 year old loser complaining about SJWs on Reddit



People like this need to get a life, or at least a grip.

[TakingBackSunday]

ugh

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187891302&postcount=116

Wish we could just get rid of facebook and twitter, that would hurt them with trying to recruiting others.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=187891302&postcount=116

Wish we could just get rid of facebook and twitter, that would hurt them with trying to recruiting others.

Stupid but not incorrect