Author Topic: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't. (Read 4060573 times)

eleuin · « **Reply #23280 on:** July 31, 2016, 01:44:37 PM »

I am shocked a game blown out of proportion is underwhelming

All those people speculating on multiplayer when a dude said it once and then retracted the statement

VomKriege · « **Reply #23281 on:** July 31, 2016, 01:47:55 PM »

Lime spouting reductionist shit and getting schooled. Again.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212030064&postcount=69

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So you're saying this entire entry on wikipedia is a lie?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212031348&postcount=80

Dennis · « **Reply #23282 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:12:15 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212029836&postcount=66

Hitler was a gamer.

Atramental · « **Reply #23283 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:30:07 PM »

Man, it must be really painful to have a stick up your butt every waking hour.

I don't know how Lime does it.

helios · « **Reply #23284 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:44:07 PM »

Sexism thread turns into racism thread, brought to you by Lime

zomgee · « **Reply #23285 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:08:50 PM »

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on July 31, 2016, 02:57:01 PM

So No Man's Sky is basically "OMG LOOK it's fucking nothing" the game like we all thought it would be.

Are you playing the June 21st build?

Mr. Nobody · « **Reply #23286 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:13:52 PM »

>south korea
>gamergate

agrajag · « **Reply #23287 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:19:55 PM »

Quote from: VomKriege on July 31, 2016, 01:47:55 PM

Lime spouting reductionist shit and getting schooled. Again.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212030064&postcount=69

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So you're saying this entire entry on wikipedia is a lie?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212031348&postcount=80

Fuck nuances, bro, this is GAF!

wsippel · « **Reply #23288 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:32:17 PM »

Quote from: HackFraudDoctorScientist on July 31, 2016, 01:30:25 PM

I just want to fly around in space, listen to synth music and occasionally do those things while high.

Elite: Dangerous is $20 on Steam. Has orchestral music though.

curly · « **Reply #23289 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:56:23 PM »

Quote from: VomKriege on July 31, 2016, 01:47:55 PM

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So you're saying this entire entry on wikipedia is a lie?

This phrase deserves to be on a plaque somewhere

Yulwei · « **Reply #23290 on:** July 31, 2016, 04:26:57 PM »

Absolutely nothing about those NMS impressions surprises me but still

Sonyponies

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #23291 on:** July 31, 2016, 04:49:28 PM »

Quote from: aiii on July 31, 2016, 04:22:12 PM

The James Bond thread is incredible. Dudes in 2016 just now realizing that books written in the 1950s by a British man born in 1908 are outdated and offensive by modern standards. But more importantly, they're acting like no one else realizes it, AND that fans of the series somehow have been unable to see any of it because they're dumb and like seeing shit blow up.

There's going to be a "Bond is problematic" wave coming soon to the internet, with thinkpieces and Buzzfeed style lists because people in their early 20s are just now seeing/reading any Bond stuff and are OFFENDED that it doesn't match up with 2016 SJW standards.

Just wait until those Buzzfeed writers will be considered bigots by 2036 standards

zomgee · « **Reply #23292 on:** July 31, 2016, 05:40:03 PM »

Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on July 31, 2016, 04:49:28 PM

Quote from: aiii on July 31, 2016, 04:22:12 PM
The James Bond thread is incredible. Dudes in 2016 just now realizing that books written in the 1950s by a British man born in 1908 are outdated and offensive by modern standards. But more importantly, they're acting like no one else realizes it, AND that fans of the series somehow have been unable to see any of it because they're dumb and like seeing shit blow up.

There's going to be a "Bond is problematic" wave coming soon to the internet, with thinkpieces and Buzzfeed style lists because people in their early 20s are just now seeing/reading any Bond stuff and are OFFENDED that it doesn't match up with 2016 SJW standards.

Just wait until those Buzzfeed writers will be considered bigots by 2036 standards

Praying for death

curly · « **Reply #23293 on:** July 31, 2016, 05:55:40 PM »

Quote from: aiii on July 31, 2016, 05:52:49 PM

What's extra weird to me is that they seem to have zero issue at all with the established fact that James Bond loves to murder. Loves it more than pussy. He's literally an assassin and kills usually in the double digits per story. Rarely does he ever even fuck a woman who isn't somehow related to the mission. But all they are offended about is racism and misogyny, because you don't get virtue points for being against murder.

James Bond is a government assassin who goes all around the world murdering people and destroying shit for the crown, breaking every law you can think of along the way. That's fine. No issue there. Says racist shit and is aggressive with women and these dudes are getting lathered up thinking of the cred they can get for pointing it out. In a series that is 60 years old and has been pointing it all out itself for at least 25 years.

Because it's window dressing. It's not objecting to fundamental inequalities, it's getting mad at things that offend liberal sensitivities

agrajag · « **Reply #23294 on:** July 31, 2016, 06:00:26 PM »

People are a product of their society.

If someone lived in a society where being 10x more bigoted than Trump was the norm, to not only deviate the norm, but to bring about change to the norm is a tremendous achievement.

The very views of the sheltered, naive ultra-progressives on GAF (

) were afforded by the achievements of those who they criticize with no regard to context or perspective.

curly · « **Reply #23295 on:** July 31, 2016, 06:03:53 PM »

Yeah but someone like Churchill who gets glorified by interventionist types and gets the atrocities he presided over ignored (hello Bengal) should get a lot more shit thrown on him.

mormapope · « **Reply #23296 on:** July 31, 2016, 06:28:14 PM »

No Man's Sky spoiler thread has already gotten really fucking dumb with the bargaining and mindless hope, and its still a week until the game launches officially

This will eclipse Spore in disappointment at this rate.

Every defender in the thread: "SHAUN MURRAY IS AN HONEST AND RIGHT PERSON

"

zomgee · « **Reply #23297 on:** July 31, 2016, 06:37:57 PM »

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on July 31, 2016, 05:57:40 PM

Basically if you have to dig into history and old entertainment to get outraged you're in too deep.

I think it's worth pointing out and reflecting on, but it's not worth discarding which is what the current trend is - "it is bad and it must be shamed."

Also people shouldn't feel they are the first to be so enlightened and above all those quaint neanderthal attitudes of old. It comes and goes in waves. Instant affirmation is just the current driver.

But what do I know, I'm older than AiA.

zomgee · « **Reply #23298 on:** July 31, 2016, 06:55:59 PM »

Anything that makes that shithead GribbleGrunger look dumber and dumber is ok in my book. I choose to play the meta game of NMS.

agrajag · « **Reply #23299 on:** July 31, 2016, 06:57:19 PM »

Bu-bu-but 18 quintillion planets, each person on earth could visit two billion and there'd be some left over

Shuri · « **Reply #23300 on:** July 31, 2016, 07:29:24 PM »

A lot of these internet progressive people types that post on neogaf and twitter will never ever actually attack anything else than what I call to be soft targets. They are going to rally together and slam some random twitter guy who said something bad.

Because it's far easier to target some random dude to get twitter virtue points than some real hardcore fucked up neo-skinhead group like The Golden Dawn movement or those extremist islamist preachers who use the internet to spill disgusting REAL legitimate mysogenic/hate garbage.

Those Golden Dawn guys or those terrorists recruiters are legit physical threats. They can, will and have retaliated against people who tried to denonce them.

But no. Let's attack random authors, article writers, actors, regular average joes over what is in most cases are just words and shit that has no effect in the real world.

It's easier, and safer.

benjipwns · « **Reply #23301 on:** July 31, 2016, 08:16:48 PM »

Quote from: Shuri on July 31, 2016, 07:29:24 PM

But no. Let's attack random authors, article writers, actors, regular average joes over what is in most cases are just words and shit that has no effect in the real world.

Don't forget to vote for Hillary.

benjipwns · « **Reply #23302 on:** July 31, 2016, 08:16:54 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1255824

benjipwns · « **Reply #23303 on:** July 31, 2016, 08:26:36 PM »

Quote from: Y2Kev

Am I the only one who is amazed when people say, "I talked to my parents and all my friends and they're all voting for Trump!" Like wow you sorta know shitty people lol

Yo, drop another McKinley on the Queen.

Hell, make it a Cleveland if you can.

Dennis · « **Reply #23304 on:** July 31, 2016, 08:30:34 PM »

No Mans Sky is the kind of game I want to play.

I hope it is a good game. In fact, I hope it is a great game.

But perhaps people have unrealistic expectations regarding the scope of a game that is an indie game - Sony or no Sony.

Take My Breh Away · « **Reply #23305 on:** July 31, 2016, 08:41:37 PM »

Quote from: zomgee on July 31, 2016, 06:55:59 PM

Anything that makes that shithead GribbleGrunger look dumber and dumber is ok in my book. I choose to play the meta game of NMS.

GribbleGrunger is just the louder and more agressive version of Loudninja. Or Conduit's alt.

Still, if that's the fuckery when one copy leaks out. We're gonna feast when leaks start bombarding the internet next week.

BrokenVerses · « **Reply #23306 on:** July 31, 2016, 08:46:45 PM »

Let's Cyber · « **Reply #23307 on:** July 31, 2016, 08:47:38 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on July 31, 2016, 08:26:36 PM

Quote from: Y2Kev
Am I the only one who is amazed when people say, "I talked to my parents and all my friends and they're all voting for Trump!" Like wow you sorta know shitty people lol
Yo, drop another McKinley on the Queen.

Hell, make it a Cleveland if you can.

By late October the anxiety will be so high, the rhetoric it will be more like "Anyone unwilling to donate at least 15% of their yearly income to Hillary's super PAC is a privileged, woman hating racist. " ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This election will be known in the history books as The Great Shaming

qq more · « **Reply #23308 on:** July 31, 2016, 08:50:04 PM »

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oh

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Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #23309 on:** July 31, 2016, 09:21:46 PM »

NMS always came off like a tech demo and is likely going to be $20 or less by October.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23310 on:** July 31, 2016, 09:31:19 PM »

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on July 31, 2016, 05:41:12 PM

My biggest pet peeve is people finding out something like "Oh no HP Lovecraft is racist" or "wow at the homophobia in the 20th century" or "this guy in the 5th century was married to a 14 year old" or shit like that. Seriously, you didn't already know this? The world changed and we changed with it. I'm definitely a thousand times more progressive than say Winston Churchill but that won't change the fact that he accomplished more than I ever could.

It was a different time with different ideals. Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't mean indicting people for what was normal back then is anything but getting mad for no reason. Especially when it's fictional characters who change over time.

We live in a society wherein people spend hours creating a perfect mirage for themselves on social media. Filters to make you lighter, makeup to make you attractive, deceptive angles to make you thin. People are so fucking scared and disgusted at being normal, is it any surprise people online also demand prominent figures to be perfect? You're either perfect or problematic.

None of this is to absolve racism or sexism from past people. But surely I can celebrate the socioeconomic goals of the Black Panthers while expressing distaste for the sexism that they displayed. Surely I can celebrate Ali while disagreeing with his NOI views on the separation of races (before he left the organization). People are flawed. It's what makes them people. I have no interest in holding anyone to idealogical purity tests, especially those from bygone eras.

benjipwns · « **Reply #23311 on:** July 31, 2016, 09:44:02 PM »

Quote from: 213372bu on July 31, 2016, 08:54:13 PM

Pay your tithes brehs.

Some do:

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I would actually donate more, but I'm out of work right now and have given all I can afford. If I had a job, $2700 for sure

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I got that email. She's been getting a monthly donation from me, so my initial reaction was one of amusement.

benjipwns · « **Reply #23312 on:** July 31, 2016, 09:46:36 PM »

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on July 31, 2016, 05:41:12 PM

My biggest pet peeve is people finding out something like "Oh no HP Lovecraft is racist" or "wow at the homophobia in the 20th century" or "this guy in the 5th century was married to a 14 year old" or shit like that. Seriously, you didn't already know this? The world changed and we changed with it. I'm definitely a thousand times more progressive than say Winston Churchill but that won't change the fact that he accomplished more than I ever could.

It was a different time with different ideals. Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't mean indicting people for what was normal back then is anything but getting mad for no reason. Especially when it's fictional characters who change over time.

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 31, 2016, 09:31:19 PM

We live in a society wherein people spend hours creating a perfect mirage for themselves on social media. Filters to make you lighter, makeup to make you attractive, deceptive angles to make you thin. People are so fucking scared and disgusted at being normal, is it any surprise people online also demand prominent figures to be perfect? You're either perfect or problematic.

None of this is to absolve racism or sexism from past people. But surely I can celebrate the socioeconomic goals of the Black Panthers while expressing distaste for the sexism that they displayed. Surely I can celebrate Ali while disagreeing with his NOI views on the separation of races (before he left the organization). People are flawed. It's what makes them people. I have no interest in holding anyone to idealogical purity tests, especially those from bygone eras.

It's problematic that you would side with those who allow bigotry to extend backwards into the past.

You never stop and wonder why it's larger in the past? It's part of Q's anomaly paradox.

We're causing it by our actions now, in the relative future.

Study your "All Good Things..." brehs.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #23313 on:** July 31, 2016, 09:48:43 PM »

Eh, just try to be a decent person and respect everybody. Someone will always consider you a shitlord but fuck trying to conform to what some pink hairs think about your "triggering opinions."

benjipwns · « **Reply #23314 on:** July 31, 2016, 10:00:42 PM »

A struggle session will handle your incorrect way of thought.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #23315 on:** July 31, 2016, 10:09:27 PM »

Quote from: Dennis on July 31, 2016, 08:30:34 PM

But perhaps people have unrealistic expectations regarding the scope of a game that is an indie game - Sony or no Sony.

Sony hyped it and the dev's played coy about "what is there to do?" for so long with the reasoning of "we want the game to be *special* for you! So we don't want to reveal anything!" They both only have themselves to blame for the mass market not caring and/or being outraged that they have no idea what the hell there is to do in the game beyond exploring/seeing the same-ol' planets.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23316 on:** July 31, 2016, 10:28:38 PM »

The reason I don't really get upset over this shit anymore is because I realized social media, in the grand scheme of things, doesn't mean shit. 10k people RTing your faux outrage is not the sign of a social movement, or of mass consent on an issue. Once you move beyond the internet and college campuses you realize the only people who actually get "triggered" in real life actually have PSTD due to war/rape/etc, not because someone said mean things to them, or a book depicted an act of violence that they've never been victim of. You also realize that men and women have all types of "problematic" conversations without either of them feeling offended or upset. And that people holding views you disagree with is not the end of the world.

Coitus · « **Reply #23317 on:** July 31, 2016, 10:32:51 PM »

Which are worse, Pink Hairs or Pink Hats?

benjipwns · « **Reply #23318 on:** July 31, 2016, 10:34:08 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 31, 2016, 10:28:38 PM

The reason I don't really get upset over this shit anymore is because I realized social media, in the grand scheme of things, doesn't mean shit. 10k people RTing your faux outrage is not the sign of a social movement, or of mass consent on an issue. Once you move beyond the internet and college campuses you realize the only people who actually get "triggered" in real life actually have PSTD due to war/rape/etc, not because someone said mean things to them, or a book depicted an act of violence that they've never been victim of. You also realize that men and women have all types of "problematic" conversations without either of them feeling offended or upset. And that people holding views you disagree with is not the end of the world.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23319 on:** July 31, 2016, 10:40:02 PM »

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/tagged-com-is-the-immortal-home-of-fukkery-greatest-plethora-of-aint-shyt-byatches-on-earth.450540/

agrajag · « **Reply #23320 on:** July 31, 2016, 11:15:28 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 31, 2016, 10:40:02 PM

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/tagged-com-is-the-immortal-home-of-fukkery-greatest-plethora-of-aint-shyt-byatches-on-earth.450540/

"she looks poisonous"

FStop7 · « **Reply #23321 on:** July 31, 2016, 11:26:50 PM »

Quote from: Shuri on July 31, 2016, 07:29:24 PM

A lot of these internet progressive people types that post on neogaf and twitter will never ever actually attack anything else than what I call to be soft targets. They are going to rally together and slam some random twitter guy who said something bad.

Because it's far easier to target some random dude to get twitter virtue points than some real hardcore fucked up neo-skinhead group like The Golden Dawn movement or those extremist islamist preachers who use the internet to spill disgusting REAL legitimate mysogenic/hate garbage.

Those Golden Dawn guys or those terrorists recruiters are legit physical threats. They can, will and have retaliated against people who tried to denonce them.

But no. Let's attack random authors, article writers, actors, regular average joes over what is in most cases are just words and shit that has no effect in the real world.

It's easier, and safer.

that realization that crying out "mods help" in real life doesn't do much of anything

benjipwns · « **Reply #23322 on:** July 31, 2016, 11:28:00 PM »

Quote from: FStop7 on July 31, 2016, 11:26:50 PM

that realization that crying out "mods help" in real life doesn't do much of anything

http://time.com/4275792/woman-calls-911-pizza-order/

Dennis · « **Reply #23323 on:** July 31, 2016, 11:29:24 PM »

Quote from: FStop7 on July 31, 2016, 11:26:50 PM

Quote from: Shuri on July 31, 2016, 07:29:24 PM
A lot of these internet progressive people types that post on neogaf and twitter will never ever actually attack anything else than what I call to be soft targets. They are going to rally together and slam some random twitter guy who said something bad.

Because it's far easier to target some random dude to get twitter virtue points than some real hardcore fucked up neo-skinhead group like The Golden Dawn movement or those extremist islamist preachers who use the internet to spill disgusting REAL legitimate mysogenic/hate garbage.

Those Golden Dawn guys or those terrorists recruiters are legit physical threats. They can, will and have retaliated against people who tried to denonce them.

But no. Let's attack random authors, article writers, actors, regular average joes over what is in most cases are just words and shit that has no effect in the real world.

It's easier, and safer.

that realization that crying out "mods help" in real life doesn't do much of anything

Just cry out "Police help" instead.

I am white by the way.

Averon · « **Reply #23324 on:** August 01, 2016, 12:03:54 AM »

Often when you ask what these people what have they done other than virtue signal on social media, you get anything from totally ignoring the question and being offended the question is even asked. All the while never directly answering the question at all.

benjipwns · « **Reply #23325 on:** August 01, 2016, 12:07:03 AM »

Quote from: Averon on August 01, 2016, 12:03:54 AM

Often when you ask what these people what have they done other than virtue signal on social media, you get anything from totally ignoring the question and being offended the question is even asked. All the while never directly answering the question at all.

You don't know me in real life!

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I refuse to recognize the state's claim of legitimacy at least once a day!

[close]

benjipwns · « **Reply #23326 on:** August 01, 2016, 12:35:30 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1255887

VomKriege · « **Reply #23327 on:** August 01, 2016, 12:50:35 AM »

Quote from: aiii on July 31, 2016, 04:22:12 PM

The James Bond thread is incredible. Dudes in 2016 just now realizing that books written in the 1950s by a British man born in 1908 are outdated and offensive by modern standards. But more importantly, they're acting like no one else realizes it, AND that fans of the series somehow have been unable to see any of it because they're dumb and like seeing shit blow up.

There's going to be a "Bond is problematic" wave coming soon to the internet, with thinkpieces and Buzzfeed style lists because people in their early 20s are just now seeing/reading any Bond stuff and are OFFENDED that it doesn't match up with 2016 SJW standards.

Holy, you're not kidding

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212062791&postcount=305

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I seem to remember a passage about how Koreans are untrustworthy and inscrutable. Not North Koreans, just Koreans.

Not just North Koreans !

They're gonna get

when they will find out the casual antisemitism thrown around in the classic XIX-XXth century literature.

Quote from: benjipwns on July 31, 2016, 08:26:36 PM

Quote from: Y2Kev
Am I the only one who is amazed when people say, "I talked to my parents and all my friends and they're all voting for Trump!" Like wow you sorta know shitty people lol

I always am a bit

at this type of reactions. Truth is, even if Trump would get a massive spanking in the election (which is wishful thinking as far as I can tell), he would probably get 30-40% of the popular vote. Of course you're bound to know some people that gonna vote for him.

benjipwns · « **Reply #23328 on:** August 01, 2016, 12:55:39 AM »

i just found this from 2008 while searching for what novel that could be: http://techland.time.com/2008/08/27/the_quantum_of_racist/

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It’s common knowledge that Ian Fleming’s James Bond spy thrillers were hardly politically correct. They were packed with outdated, but probably deeply-felt, sexism, racism, and, yes, even homophobia. (Not to mention the relentlessly kick-ass sadism.) Those who haven’t opened the books in a while may assume that Fleming’s old-timey notions lurked in the subtext of the novels. But a recent re-read of Goldfinger revealed the hate-speech was hilariously explicit.

Much of the racialist invective is reserved for Koreans, particular poor old Odd-Job

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #23329 on:** August 01, 2016, 12:56:39 AM »

Help me, Bore, I just found out today that many of America's Founding Fathers kept African-Americans as slaves!

benjipwns · « **Reply #23330 on:** August 01, 2016, 12:58:15 AM »

I was reading this thing today and apparently in Central America they used to do human sacrifices. Maybe Trump is right about building that wall.

Syph · « **Reply #23331 on:** August 01, 2016, 01:27:12 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 31, 2016, 10:40:02 PM

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/tagged-com-is-the-immortal-home-of-fukkery-greatest-plethora-of-aint-shyt-byatches-on-earth.450540/

"If yall fukk dat YOU LAWSE"

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #23332 on:** August 01, 2016, 01:38:38 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 01, 2016, 12:56:39 AM

Help me, Bore, I just found out today that many of America's Founding Fathers kept African-Americans as slaves!

Founding 'Fathers'? What, so none of the Founding Mothers are even worth mentioning? Your blatant misogyny is so toxic.

benjipwns · « **Reply #23333 on:** August 01, 2016, 01:42:07 AM »

I had a professor who insisted on calling them the "Founding Brothers" for similar reasons and I was like...

Momo · « **Reply #23334 on:** August 01, 2016, 01:50:02 AM »

Founding Family

VomKriege · « **Reply #23335 on:** August 01, 2016, 02:01:42 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1256010

Syph · « **Reply #23336 on:** August 01, 2016, 02:06:45 AM »

Quote from: VomKriege on August 01, 2016, 02:01:42 AM

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1256010

i was wondering how long it would take a certain gif being posted for people to start screaming rapist

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #23337 on:** August 01, 2016, 02:06:47 AM »

Founding Cis Scum

toku · « **Reply #23338 on:** August 01, 2016, 02:46:03 AM »

Connery still the best bond though

benjipwns · « **Reply #23339 on:** August 01, 2016, 02:56:03 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212090577&postcount=267

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I would say that 99.999999% of Neogaf is already against Donald Trump, and that's good.
99.99999% of Neogaf are idiots regardless of their vote for Hilary or Trump. This forum has become more of a campus safe space with ads that line Evilores eurowhore adventures than an open place of discussion, aka a forum.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212090607&postcount=269

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You know what's going to happen now, right?

News:

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