The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[Jansen]

What's that one game where you try to fuck all the underage looking Japanese girls? Isn't that one PC exclusive?

Oh wait it's on Vita too.

rapelay is on vita?! 

[Jansen]

[FStop7]

Seriously, that's all I wanted from that game.  Not even the multiplayer bit, though that would have been great.  Just actual exploration with some meaning.

What sort of meaning? What does "exploration" mean to you? It doesn't count if there's no one at the end of the path giving you something?

I'm genuinely asking btw.

There's nothing to your discoveries.  You can't save or document them.  Revisiting a previously discovered planet is very difficult.  Revisiting a specific location on a previously discovered planet is nearly impossible.  But then you realize it doesn't really matter because there's such a lack of diversity between worlds.

And people seriously don't believe me when I tell them I've seen teams of people who's job it is to post on social media and forums about their company.

I don't know, I think most of these people are doing shilling for free, sadly.

Case in point. Loudninja. This guy seems to love posting Sony PR releases. 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271700

Anyone with a sack boy avatar = auto ignore

[brawndolicious]

Wait in NMS can't you go to the map and fast-travel or warp to galaxy->system->planet and then just set the coordinates as one of the save stations littered around? You can go back to places you've been to from what I've seen.

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215474760

I have no idea who is the initial source of the video -- given that it seems to be from her perspective, I would assume she is. She is certainly not the reason it is getting big right now, and you are not going to find me defending someone taping a cab driver to own him online while you drunkenly rant about him, which is something I made clear in multiple posts in this thread. Outrage culture is outrage culture, and I'm against it. Magnifying a small individual thing with little connection to a broader conversation into national shame of someone being an idiot is, I think, wrong.

 

dude is being obnoxious as fuck in the lyft driver thread

[agrajag]

That outraged lyft lady is such a dumbass, holy shit 

[I'm a Puppy!]

I wonder what her gaf username is.

[stufte]

I wonder what her gaf username is.

Stumpokapow

[FStop7]

Wait in NMS can't you go to the map and fast-travel or warp to galaxy->system->planet and then just set the coordinates as one of the save stations littered around? You can go back to places you've been to from what I've seen.

Unless I am missing it, no you can't.  You have to set a waypoint on a system you may want to return to and leave it there forever.  And if you do return to a system there's not a way to return to a specific set of coordinates on a planet because there are no coordinates.  No latitude/longitude, no grid, nothing. 

This is stuff I do think may be added via patching but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

[Momo]

The continent of Hawaii

[bluemax]

That has less to do with Sony and more to do with where audiences are. I'm talking about what Sony does with its studios or what they invest in.

They also dumped a bunch of their studios in NA and EU towards the end of last gen/start of this gen, didn't they?

I guess in 2012 they shut down 3 studios and then Evolution studios this year.

They still have:

Guerrilla Games - Killzone, Horizon Zero Dawn
Polyphony - Gran Turismo
Bend Studio - Days Gone
Foster City - Internal tools/dev support
Naughty Dog - UC4, The Last of Us Remastered, ICE Team
Northwest Studio - PSVR mini games
San Diego Studio - The Show
Santa Monica Studio - God of War and collaboration with a bunch of smaller teams on downloadable games/ports/PSVR stuff
Sucker Punch - Infamous
London Studio - SingStar, PSVR Worlds
Guerilla Cambridge - RIGS (PSVR)
Media Molecule - Tearaway, Dreams
PixelOpus - Entwined
SIE Japan - Bloodborne, Gravity Rush Remastered, Gravity Rush 2, The Last Guardian, The Tomorrow Children, The Playroom (PSVR), Deep Down

Honestly going through the studios you see that there's been a few big titles (UC4, Infamous, Killzone) a few more coming (Days Gone, Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Gran Turismo), a bunch of pseudo Indie stuff, a ton of tech support and probably 1/3 or more of the studios are working on PSVR at this point. That's probably why there feels like such a void from Sony's 1st parties, you have a couple of places like Sucker Punch that we don't know what they're doing but almost everyone else has transitioned to PSVR for better or worse.

[FStop7]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215497828&postcount=19

 

[Mr. Nobody]

Wrath, I take it back breh.

This Bioshock avatar dude in Gaf-Hop is 

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215312179&postcount=29

Aīd al-Kabīr might be on September 11th?

Don't celebrate it then...
It's not that hard of a decision. I don't understand the dilemma. It looks self imposed.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271844

Just wrapped up UC4 and I can't believe it. I had the whole family watching.

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271940

"We don't have any info to really assess the claims here. Probably a patent troll !"

[Momo]

That motherfucker just tell someone to not celebrate Eid?

[bdoughty]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215474760

My vagina, it has too much sand.

 

dude is being obnoxious as fuck in the lyft driver thread

The worst part was that Stumpy (mod bot) closed the original thread because the video had a scary woman speak for a minute that did not conform to their delicate sensibilities.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271239&

For fuck sake, just edit the TOS to eliminate any form of discussion that does not meet the "alt-left" guidelines as described by Feminist Frequency or Social Justice Warrior Monthly.

[Take My Breh Away]

  http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271959 

Welcome to GAF. Where satirical art games by feminists are now "Creepy" and "Gross"

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271959 

Welcome to GAF. Where satirical art games by feminists are now "Creepy" and "Gross"

I don't think it's obvious at all [it is satire] if you just watch the trailer

   It couldn't be more on the nose than it already is.

There's a "Tyler Malka" in the YT comments too.

Hey, I bought her a drink, OKAY? In Spain or anywhere in Europe which I have travelled by allowing disruptive ads on the forum and selling user data to Kotaku for my shekels, it is absolutely okay to buy a woman a drink and grab her ass. The drink is consent.

 

[WanderingWind]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215474760

My vagina, it has too much sand.

 

dude is being obnoxious as fuck in the lyft driver thread

The worst part was that Stumpy (mod bot) closed the original thread because the video had a scary woman speak for a minute that did not conform to their delicate sensibilities.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271239&

Holy shit. Whoever it was actually closed a thread because a woman dared to have an opinion they didn't like. And I bet whoever closed it still feels like a true feminist. "Stick to the talking points, sweetcheeks." Good to see men talking over women and telling them they know what's best is still a thing . So much for listening to women and minority on issues pertaining to them, eh?

[VomKriege]

Man shot dead over a minor altercation at a McDonald's

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215506996&postcount=5

One of my favourite things to do is to hold a door for people when they're too far away, you know so they have to run a little. Sometimes I let go when they speed up.
Maybe I should rethink my hobbies. Seems like people take this shit seriously.

Zakalwe never disappoint.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271974

Y'know, for senseless acts like this, I wouldn't mind if, after catching the dude, we could somehow permanently disable them so they can never, ever use a gun.

Maybe amputation of the index finger on both hands or something. Maybe go for the entire hand? I mean, jail probably won't change the dude for the better. And access to guns is ridiculously easy.

 

[Rufus]

The entire idea of Modbot needs a rethink. Unless, of course, you don't care whether people know and understand why threads are locked. Not telling people just leads to freewheeling speculation, specifically the kind which breeds contempt for mods.

[fizzel]

Stump is a fucking weirdo. How the fuck does Malka find these distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.

[bork]

Based on my research ( ) there's a lot more weeb stuff on the PSP/PS3/Vita than the PS4.

A lot of notable weeb games have or will get releases on steam as well. It makes more sense to have a Vita/PSTV and an okay PC to play JRPGs and other Japanese games nowadays. The PS4 itself did nothing for Japanese game development.

What Japanese games are exclusive to PC that aren't also on PS4 or Vita? And I do think there's more PS4 weeb stuff than PS3, especially at this point in the console's lifecycle (it was years before PS3 got a lot of niche JP games).

And also, the PS4 provides the few Japanese devs who still bother with HD console releases one of the only places to put their games, I'd imagine the fans of JP gaming in the states game much more on PS4 and WiiU than PC or Xbone.

When I look at my own game collection, there's two games that are not on anything else -Uncharted 4 and KOF XIV (which some say is already heading to PC)- and everything else is available on PC, PS3, and/or Vita.  Even more niche/"weeb" games like Neptunia are on PC now.  The 2D remake of Assault Suit Leynos (Target Earth on the Genesis) just came out on Steam.  I could absolutely do without a PS4 and still get like 99% of all the Japanese games I want to play on it.  It's kind of amazing to me how the PS4 came out 2.5 years ago and just about everything it gets from Japan also comes out on PS3 and/or Vita right alongside it.

[bork]

The entire idea of Modbot needs a rethink. Unless, of course, you don't care whether people know and understand why threads are locked. Not telling people just leads to freewheeling speculation, specifically the kind which breeds contempt for mods.

I've never seen a forum where so many pointless or head-scratching bans are handed out like they are at a GAF.  Banning people for having different opinions, no matter how stupid or absurd that they may be, is also just dumb.  I've said it before and I'll say it again- GAF treats moderation like it's a status symbol.  Someone gets modded?  Threads pop up congratulating them on it.  Then they get license to challenge whatever anyone says that they don't agree with and ban people if they don't like the response.  Give me a fucking break.  People should be banned for things like NSFW images in threads where such things aren't appropriate, spamming, etc.  Not for posting their opinions.  Not for posting some dumb meme.

But we already know all this. That's why we're here. 

[agrajag]

The entire idea of Modbot needs a rethink. Unless, of course, you don't care whether people know and understand why threads are locked. Not telling people just leads to freewheeling speculation, specifically the kind which breeds contempt for mods.

Mods are entitled to their safe space, breh.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

At least with SA they have the Leper Colony where you can see who banned/probated you and why, even if the reasons are dumb.

The entire idea of Modbot needs a rethink. Unless, of course, you don't care whether people know and understand why threads are locked. Not telling people just leads to freewheeling speculation, specifically the kind which breeds contempt for mods.

I've never seen a forum where so many pointless or head-scratching bans are handed out like they are at a GAF.  Banning people for having different opinions, no matter how stupid or absurd that they may be, is also just dumb. 

But we already know all this. That's why we're here. 

Mods have their pet issues and if you hurt their feelings or get their dander up about their pet issue, you will be banned.  Once you stop thinking of GAF OT as a discussion forum and more of a contest to see how outraged you can get at a particular issue, the board makes a lot more sense.  Modbot is cowardly but its one of many issues NeoGAF has.  That's why the board peaked somewhere in 2013 and has been declining ever since.

[bork]

At least with SA they have the Leper Colony where you can see who banned/probated you and why, even if the reasons are dumb.

The entire idea of Modbot needs a rethink. Unless, of course, you don't care whether people know and understand why threads are locked. Not telling people just leads to freewheeling speculation, specifically the kind which breeds contempt for mods.

I've never seen a forum where so many pointless or head-scratching bans are handed out like they are at a GAF.  Banning people for having different opinions, no matter how stupid or absurd that they may be, is also just dumb. 

But we already know all this. That's why we're here. 

Mods have their pet issues and if you hurt their feelings or get their dander up about their pet issue, you will be banned.  Once you stop thinking of GAF OT as a discussion forum and more of a contest to see how outraged you can get at a particular issue, the board makes a lot more sense.  Modbot is cowardly but its one of many issues NeoGAF has.  That's why the board peaked somewhere in 2013 and has been declining ever since.

2013?  LOL.  The board peaked in like 2005 and has been on a huge decline since that time.  It has gotten increasingly-bloated and the quality of posts has gone massively downhill.  And then in recent years there has been an influx of overly-sensitive outrage culture idiots joining all the regular idiots, making for a thicker pot of shit soup.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I mean traffic-wise.  Content wise, yeah, the board has been on a decline far sooner than 2013.

[bork]

There are only two reasons why I still go to GAF at this point- one, because it's still super-busy and new posts pop up all the time, so all the game news and shit pops up on there lightning fast (and it makes for a good time-waster during down time at work  ) and two, because there are still a few community-related threads I like to keep up with.  That's it.  I rarely post anymore.

[benjipwns]

GAF treats moderation like it's a status symbol.  Someone gets modded?  Threads pop up congratulating them on it.  Then they get license to challenge whatever anyone says that they don't agree with and ban people if they don't like the response.  Give me a fucking break.  People should be banned for things like NSFW images in threads where such things aren't appropriate, spamming, etc.  Not for posting their opinions.  Not for posting some dumb meme.

And then there's the totalitarian gay-bashing Bore mods who demand everyone pledge allegiance to their personal Gamergate cult.

They make Steve Youngblood look like he abhors wanton murder.

[VomKriege]

People should be banned for things like NSFW images in threads where such things aren't appropriate, spamming, etc.  Not for posting their opinions.  Not for posting some dumb meme.

Heh, I'm not sure. Doesn't really work in practice on any large board. It's a thin line between what can considered fringe opinions and just hateful speech sometimes, for instance with far right people. Not uncommon for those people to use boards as soapboxes too : As a forum owner would you be comfortable with some dude obviously pushing constantly over a long period of time stuff like chemtrails, AIDS denialism or anti-vaxxing, especially if it is off topic with the main forum subject ? On a forum read by a lot of young people and where his rhetoric might not be aptly responded to ? Sometimes some members or topics can fuck up a community without technically breaking any rules.

Not to mention it's not always clear cut to determine what constitutes a "NSFW" image or an insult.

Really, GAF is far from the only place where moderation end up being done by ear rather than abiding to a strict application of the terms of service. It can be done better, for sure, but how much can you ask from people doing that shit voluntarily on their free time on an expensive toys forum ?

[bork]

GAF treats moderation like it's a status symbol.  Someone gets modded?  Threads pop up congratulating them on it.  Then they get license to challenge whatever anyone says that they don't agree with and ban people if they don't like the response.  Give me a fucking break.  People should be banned for things like NSFW images in threads where such things aren't appropriate, spamming, etc.  Not for posting their opinions.  Not for posting some dumb meme.

And then there's the totalitarian gay-bashing Bore mods who demand everyone pledge allegiance to their personal Gamergate cult.

They make Steve Youngblood look like he abhors wanton murder.

 

[thisismyusername]

And then there's the totalitarian gay-bashing Bore mods

Am_I_Anonymous is a mod here, now? 🤔

[Momo]

People should be banned for things like NSFW images in threads where such things aren't appropriate, spamming, etc.  Not for posting their opinions.  Not for posting some dumb meme.

Heh, I'm not sure. Doesn't really work in practice on any large board. It's a thin line between what can considered fringe opinions and just hateful speech sometimes, for instance with far right people. Not uncommon for those people to use boards as soapboxes too : As a forum owner would you be comfortable with some dude obviously pushing constantly over a long period of time stuff like chemtrails, AIDS denialism or anti-vaxxing, especially if it is off topic with the main forum subject ? On a forum read by a lot of young people and where his rhetoric might not be aptly responded to ? Sometimes some members or topics can fuck up a community without technically breaking any rules.


Not to mention it's not always clear cut to determine what constitutes a "NSFW" image or an insult.


Really, GAF is far from the only place where moderation end up being done by ear rather than abiding to a strict application of the terms of service. It can be done better, for sure, but how much can you ask from people doing that shit voluntarily on their free time on an expensive toys forum ?

^It's called trolling, I've modded admined on big boards before, with usernotes you can just mark things a dude says as suspicious and if he/she keeps on playing dumb or is obviously trolling you give them an infraction/PM them to let them know the jig is up and escalate punishment from there. You dont just ban a guy because this one post seems weird and I dont like it.

[bork]

People should be banned for things like NSFW images in threads where such things aren't appropriate, spamming, etc.  Not for posting their opinions.  Not for posting some dumb meme.

Heh, I'm not sure. Doesn't really work in practice on any large board. It's a thin line between what can considered fringe opinions and just hateful speech sometimes, for instance with far right people. Not uncommon for those people to use boards as soapboxes too : As a forum owner would you be comfortable with some dude obviously pushing constantly over a long period of time stuff like chemtrails, AIDS denialism or anti-vaxxing, especially if it is off topic with the main forum subject ?

If it's off-topic...that's where moderation is needed.  Could also be treated as flame-baiting.  That's not what I was ranting about, though.

Not to mention it's not always clear cut to determine what constitutes a "NSFW" image or an insult.

That's what a good TOS is for.  But I'm talking about obvious NSFW stuff.  Dick pics and what not. 

Really, GAF is far from the only place where moderation end up being done by ear rather than abiding to a strict application of the terms of service. It can be done better, for sure, but how much can you ask from people doing that shit voluntarily on their free time on an expensive toys forum ?

As it was brought up earlier- give a legitimate reason for the bans and thread closures.  "I don't like what you said" doesn't work.  I don't like it when they close threads because a game hasn't come out yet, either.  Why do we need to wait for an "OT" thread?  It's dumb shit.  It's a fucking video game message board.

[bork]

^It's called trolling, I've modded on a board the size of GAF before, with usernotes you can just mark things a dude says as suspicious and if he/she keeps on playing dumb or is obviously tolling you give them an infraction/PM them to let them know the jig is up and escalate punishment from there. You dont just ban a guy because this one post seems weird and I dont like it.

I was a mod on GAF years back.  They used to discuss problem users and what to do about them in the mod forum.  People weren't so quick to hand out bans and others would veto calls to ban people if that seemed too harsh.  I get the feeling this doesn't happen there anymore. 

Hell, when I got demodded (for doing something that other mods did and still do- changing a thread title  ), I was also immediately banned.  IIRC it was actually Evilore who questioned why anyone felt the need to do that and unbanned me within minutes.  I found out later on that it was Hitokage who did that for pretty much no reason at all.  Like it was a reflex action or something.

Also, if you're a moderator, you're not going to ignore users, but everyone else can place the people they don't like on ignore.  Did someone say something that you don't like and you don't feel that you can have a rational discussion with them?  OK.  ADD THEM TO YOUR IGNORE LIST AND MOVE ON.

[thisismyusername]

As it was brought up earlier- give a legitimate reason for the bans and thread closures.  "I don't like what you said" doesn't work.  I don't like it when they close threads because a game hasn't come out yet, either.  Why do we need to wait for an "OT" thread?  It's dumb shit.  It's a fucking video game message board.

GAF's moderation has always been walking on egg shells. Shidoshi pointed that out in like 2011 or so, but it's been true forever. It's just gotten constantly worse due to the "SJW" (ugh) nature of the new moderators to stamp out dissent. I mean ToxicAdam was like the resident Conservative over there for a while and they ran him off due to the liberal leaning shill nature of the board and some mods like Y2Kev being #TRIGGERED if you don't goose-step in line with their ideologies.

For example: Yes, because the public's dislike of Hillary TOTALLY means her good things override that.

[bork]

Posting about politics on a video game message board

[Joe Molotov]

GAF treats moderation like it's a status symbol.  Someone gets modded?  Threads pop up congratulating them on it.  Then they get license to challenge whatever anyone says that they don't agree with and ban people if they don't like the response.  Give me a fucking break.  People should be banned for things like NSFW images in threads where such things aren't appropriate, spamming, etc.  Not for posting their opinions.  Not for posting some dumb meme.

And then there's the totalitarian gay-bashing Bore mods who demand everyone pledge allegiance to their personal Gamergate cult.

They make Steve Youngblood look like he abhors wanton murder.

Enjoy your ban, taco. 

[Momo]

^It's called trolling, I've modded on a board the size of GAF before, with usernotes you can just mark things a dude says as suspicious and if he/she keeps on playing dumb or is obviously tolling you give them an infraction/PM them to let them know the jig is up and escalate punishment from there. You dont just ban a guy because this one post seems weird and I dont like it.

I was a mod on GAF years back.  They used to discuss problem users and what to do about them in the mod forum.  People weren't so quick to hand out bans and others would veto calls to ban people if that seemed too harsh.  I get the feeling this doesn't happen there anymore.

If you're a moderator, you're not going to ignore users, but everyone else can place the people they don't like on ignore.  Did someone say something that you don't like and you don't feel that you can have a rational discussion with them?  OK.  ADD THEM TO YOUR IGNORE LIST AND MOVE ON.

 

Yeah we used to do this too, in the mod forum we'd talk about specific users if they started getting a reputation for certain things that's not breaking TOS explicitly, usually mods would first just start by interacting with them a little to see what they are like and go from there. The ban option was always only used if someone was genuinely still hindering others after pms, infractions etc, unless you post porn or something TOS breaking then you get booted. We had an appeals court thing (a sub board only people in the banned or moderation groups could see) where people could explain themselves in case a mod was too ban happy, that way the moderation team was held accountable for bans, they couldn't just make people disappear for x amount of time. (Very rarely people would get banned from the appeals court for being idiots and posting porn and shit though )

[benjipwns]

For example: Yes, because the public's dislike of Hillary TOTALLY means her good things override that.

Of course it's sexism. There's literally no policy or governing related reason for her approval to be that low.

Hillary Clinton is one of the most consistently fact based politicians on the national stage

She had the highest rating for honesty of any candidate this cycle. Do your homework.

All that being said- Trustworthiness is relatively low on the list of things I give a shit about.

I'd much rather have a politician lie about stuff that only affects their own image [being under sniper fire in Bosnia] than lie about stuff like policy and goals.

  at all the citing of PoltiFact as if editorializing on opinions is somehow fact-checking or that something like "I will close Gitmo" or "my tax plan will [do x]" is even "fact-checkable" in the first place

A Republican approving of a Democratic candidate is now unheard of, whereas as recently as Bill that'd have been fairly normal.

shaqpointingandlaughing.gif

[bork]

The Neo-Geo.com forums had a "War Room" subforum with ultra-relaxed rules.  Essentially it was there for people to post NSFW shit, flame each other, say whatever, etc.  Basically a place to go nuts in and then use the rest of the forum for more rational discussion.  I always thought this was a good idea.  I would make a subforum like that password-protected and list the password and a description with whatever guidelines were in place on the password page, so people would know what they're getting into.  If this were GAF...I'd call it "Opa-Age." 

[VomKriege]

Yeah, I don't disagree with any of that, I was a mod once too elsewhere (probably not the best one, by far, too !) and I was in now way presenting a comprehensive defense of GAF : it could do a lot better.

[nachobro]

The Neo-Geo.com forums had a "War Room" subforum with ultra-relaxed rules.  Essentially it was there for people to post NSFW shit, flame each other, say whatever, etc.  Basically a place to go nuts in and then use the rest of the forum for more rational discussion.  I always thought this was a good idea.  I would make a subforum like that password-protected and list the password and a description with whatever guidelines were in place on the password page, so people would know what they're getting into.  If this were GAF...I'd call it "Opa-Age." 

lol every thread on neo-geo used to be a roast thread, the popoffs there could happen at any moment. what a bizarre forum

[bork]

The Neo-Geo.com forums had a "War Room" subforum with ultra-relaxed rules.  Essentially it was there for people to post NSFW shit, flame each other, say whatever, etc.  Basically a place to go nuts in and then use the rest of the forum for more rational discussion.  I always thought this was a good idea.  I would make a subforum like that password-protected and list the password and a description with whatever guidelines were in place on the password page, so people would know what they're getting into.  If this were GAF...I'd call it "Opa-Age." 

lol every thread on neo-geo used to be a roast thread, the popoffs there could happen at any moment. what a bizarre forum

People would get all heated over Neo-Geo stuff as it related to "the scene" (lawl).  Collector squabble.  A lot of dumb shit happened because of the infamous Dion Dakis and ChrisR, two muscleheads who decided to start bootlegging carts and claim to be legit while using the defunct magazine name "NeoGeo Freak."  They were amazing trolls who would really set people off.

[nachobro]

I still go there once in a while for technical help, cause that forum is still one of the best spots for arcade tech help. The rest of it I can't even fuck with though lol

[VomKriege]

Tales of incredible shillery :

Oh ffs... the Killzone 2 thing wasn't that bad... it was just some PR guy who didn't know any better and said "Yup, that's gameplay!" and Sony was held hostage by his dumb words for YEARS... by gamers who didn't know a CG trailer when they saw one... and in the end the final game ended up looking better.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215523564&postcount=3787

[Joe Molotov]

Held hostage! 

[bork]

I still go there once in a while for technical help, cause that forum is still one of the best spots for arcade tech help. The rest of it I can't even fuck with though lol

The TL;DR version is that the Neo-Geo AES wasn't always this huge "SUPER-RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~" system and was actually kind of common back in the 90s.  Then one day a huge chunk of games were deemed high priced collectors' items and insanity began.  The big debates were over who had legit games and not fakes (usually people would take the cheaper MVS carts, slap them into AES cart shells, and then print up a fake insert for the box) and the communities that formed around this.  You also had people claiming to have had super-rare prototypes.  The drama was legendary- and legendarily stupid.

"NGF" were the two most infamous bootlegging trolls.  Not only would they start flame wars and make ridiculous claims (both with the Neo-Geo and for real-life stuff), but one of them even went as far as to threaten to beat people up if he saw them and actually did get physical with someone at some con he went to.

Their site no longer has any links listed (proclaiming their return in 2013  ), but some older links still work:

http://www.neogeofreak.com/stock2/stock2.htm
http://www.neogeofreak.com/stock2/stock2b.htm

A small example of these goobers.

Basically they had the funds to become actual distributors, but decided to be shady dickheads instead.  There was even a point where they tried to peddle their wares to big importers like NCSX, who asked their customers if they'd buy NGF games and received a giant collective "HELL FUCKING NO" in response. 

Meanwhile, Shawn, the guy who founded Neo-Geo.com, became a seller/distributor who people could actually trust.  IIRC he got out of all the drama in the early 2000s and spent his time playing MMORPGs.

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215527321&postcount=92

A fucking shame. I lurked this thread, didn't post on it but was really, really, really angry. I even made a screenshot of one post of one guy speaking da truth to the Lore, post erased from the forum.

I keep this "debacle" somewhere in my head. Every Internet website was doing something special about Iwata's passing , not gaf...

[VomKriege]

Every.
Internet.
Website.

 

EDIT :

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271205

I'm curious if OP will follow what seems to be the unanimous GAF advice or if as usual he'll just go through with it.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Man shot dead over a minor altercation at a McDonald's

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215506996&postcount=5

One of my favourite things to do is to hold a door for people when they're too far away, you know so they have to run a little. Sometimes I let go when they speed up.
Maybe I should rethink my hobbies. Seems like people take this shit seriously.

Zakalwe never disappoint.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271974

Y'know, for senseless acts like this, I wouldn't mind if, after catching the dude, we could somehow permanently disable them so they can never, ever use a gun.

Maybe amputation of the index finger on both hands or something. Maybe go for the entire hand? I mean, jail probably won't change the dude for the better. And access to guns is ridiculously easy.

 

Ya know not one mention of the asshole who got shot instigating this shit, at all. Amazingly myopic gaf SJW faggotry is proceeding on schedule I see.

[nachobro]

I still go there once in a while for technical help, cause that forum is still one of the best spots for arcade tech help. The rest of it I can't even fuck with though lol

The TL;DR version is that the Neo-Geo AES wasn't always this huge "SUPER-RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~" system and was actually kind of common back in the 90s.  Then one day a huge chunk of games were deemed high priced collectors' items and insanity began.  The big debates were over who had legit games and not fakes (usually people would take the cheaper MVS carts, slap them into AES cart shells, and then print up a fake insert for the box) and the communities that formed around this.  You also had people claiming to have had super-rare prototypes.  The drama was legendary- and legendarily stupid.

"NGF" were the two most infamous bootlegging trolls.  Not only would they start flame wars and make ridiculous claims (both with the Neo-Geo and for real-life stuff), but one of them even went as far as to threaten to beat people up if he saw them and actually did get physical with someone at some con he went to.

Their site no longer has any links listed (proclaiming their return in 2013  ), but some older links still work:

http://www.neogeofreak.com/stock2/stock2.htm
http://www.neogeofreak.com/stock2/stock2b.htm

A small example of these goobers.

Basically they had the funds to become actual distributors, but decided to be shady dickheads instead.  There was even a point where they tried to peddle their wares to big importers like NCSX, who asked their customers if they'd buy NGF games and received a giant collective "HELL FUCKING NO" in response. 

Meanwhile, Shawn, the guy who founded Neo-Geo.com, became a seller/distributor who people could actually trust.  IIRC he got out of all the drama in the early 2000s and spent his time playing MMORPGs.

I just crack up going there for tech advice on stuff. Any time anyone asks a question there will be a response like "a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow like you doesn't deserve that cabinet, i hope you short it and ruin everything you dumb fuck". Every single time. And I still laugh every single time.

[fizzel]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271950

The fuck, the comic book market for major characters is around the 100k mark?

[Bebpo]

Apparently there's a meme thing going on about satirical response to an article on talking to women with headphones.  I laughed a bit at this one:

[stufte]

I find pick-up strategy articles silly, but the response to the original article has been ridiculous. They make it seem like the original article was about how to rape a woman wearing headphones. Not everyone wearing headphones is doing it to shut out the people around them, like most of the shut-ins complaining about this would think. Human interaction must be frightening as fuck for them.

[tiesto]

I find pick-up strategy articles silly, but the response to the original article has been ridiculous. They make it seem like the original article was about how to rape a woman wearing headphones. Not everyone wearing headphones is doing it to shut out the people around them, like most of the shut-ins complaining about this would think. Human interaction must be frightening as fuck for them.

I'm glad I'm not the only one... the people in that thread make it seem like every single slight interaction with a woman is automatically unwarranted and the safer bet is just to not talk to any of them.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1271950

The fuck, the comic book market for major characters is around the 100k mark?

Comics have been on a decline for quite some time AFAIK, even before the Internet-induced agony of printed media. A lot of comics observers have been very critical for years of the current distribution scheme : there's no doubt that the publishers doubled down on their core market at the cost of a wider visibility, creating in the process a rather tepid and lopsided ecosystem pandering to its nerdy aging fans.

I'm skeptical however going for the "direct market" option is the cause rather than the symptom. Comics are now longer a hot mass market commodity and that golden age is gone for good, much like movie theaters in the Western world probably won't ever attract as many people as they did before the TV was introduced in homes.

Marvel and DC tried a number of initiatives to inject fresh blood (various forms of rebooting the "continuity" which is part of the charm of those modern mythologies but also had built up into a Lovecraftian monstruosity and a very high barrier of entry) and branch out to digital distribution, but they never shook the old habits and really there's no saving the printing business as is long term IMHO (the monthly episodic format don't make a lot of sense anymore. Just do complete graphic novels like in Europe...). Some of the IPs have an enormous value, but what drives it today is obviously the big bucks from movies and other derived medias. It will maybe supply the top titles with new readership. Anthologies of the classic runs and masterpieces will probably continue to bring some decent money in for quite some times too.

I've long grown out of my comics phase but the overall impression I took from my imported comics specialty shop was that there was far too much titles for whatever demand is existing (Who seriously has time and money, apart from the whales, to bother sorting out the X different titles for Batman, Spiderman and Xmen running concurrently and follow storylines peppered all across them ?) and that it was a rather pricey hobby all things told, plagued with delays on top of that.

[Great Rumbler]

Kick Marvel and DC into the bushes, read Image and IDW.

[Let's Cyber]

PoliGAF can't possibly become more mastorbatory, right?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1272145

Oh, nevermind.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215539537&postcount=3865

EDIT:  FUCK YOU 213372bu