Game of Thrones Season 6 Thread "I choose violence"

[CajoleJuice]

Episode 2 is gunna be good. 

[meeb]

This episode just makes you realize how much useless shit was in books 4a and 4b. Sure they made it even shittier in some ways, but the point is that it is all irrelevant in the end.

I actually like the show getting ahead of the books because now I know what chapters to skip when book 6 is released. Like anything having to do with Aegon. Or anything having to do with that shitty Zombie Cat plot.

[meeb]

I like Victarion for many of the same reasons I liked Cersei's chapters. How often do you get a POV for someone who is just a straight dumbass or (in Vic's case) seems mentally challenged? Plus he acts like I'd expect a heartless pos viking to act.

affc/dance

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"hey bro I want you to travel to the end of the earth with this horn and kidnap the most beautiful woman in the world alongside her dragons. Then bring them back to me ok? BTW sorry I fucked your wife"

"...Ok"
 

He doesn't realize this shit is a trap?

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Doesn't he plan on just double crossing his brother and taking the dragons for himself? I mean it doesnt matter since it is all a trap anyway, but at least Vic isn't being a pure doormat.

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[doctavius bonbon]

o boy

[Tasty]

We in this brehs

Get fucked book readers

[CajoleJuice]

I'm a book reader who loved the episode. 

[Tasty]

Fuck, I'm so fucking excited Jesus-Jon Snow is back to fight the Night's King some more.

[meeb]

We in this brehs

Get fucked book readers

You think book readers dont know how all this shit is going to turn out already? lol.

Like anyone believed Jon was dead.

[Phoenix Dark]

Welcome to 5 years ago brehs

*about to watch the episode*

[Human Snorenado]

That was a pretty good episode imo

[Tasty]

[Human Snorenado]

Also, from the sneak peek at next week's episode:

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TOWER OF JOY BREHS

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[CajoleJuice]

Yeah, of course everyone knew that was gonna happen. I appreciated the trolling in the first episode.

Also, I would think book readers would get more excited about the Iron Islands stuff than show watchers. There was practically no context provided for the latter.

[Phoenix Dark]

Not a bad episode. I liked the Tommen stuff, and the Benjen/Brandon/Ned/Lyanna flashback was cool to see. Really didn't like the Winterfell scene with Ramsay. I guess they've thrown any logic out the window last week when bastards annihilated a royal house. Now a legitimized bastard hated in the north has taken over the north. Whatever.

Honestly the revival scene was kind of abrupt to me. I guess you could say Shireen's sacrifice last season perhaps made it possible (king's blood) but still, I was surprised that it was done like Beric's resurrection. I don't understand why

book stuff

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The show is intent on Bran being the only warg. Maybe to make Bran stand out more to viewers, but it would have made Jon's rez better. He enters Ghost at the end of Dance, just as Robb did when he died. Seems like it would have been cooler to do it as I assume it'll be done in TWOW, with Ghost (or someone else) being sacrificed.

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Next week tho. It's time.


In terms of the Iron Isles stuff...also seemed very abrupt. We'll see how it plays out.

[Human Snorenado]

Love how the traitorous Night's Watch brothers got punked. Yeah bro, shoot a giant in the shoulder with an arrow, what could possibly go wrong?

[Shaka Khan]

• Brienne arriving to Sansa's help the second she was about to get caught
• The Wildlings coming to Davos' help the second the door was about to get smashed
• Jon Snow waking up the second everyone leaves

At this rate with the Hollywood takeover, I expect next episode someone stopping a bomb when timer reaches 1 sec.

[Phoenix Dark]

One potential problem I foresee about next week

Book spoilers

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A lot of the Jon stuff is gonna feel really rushed. Basically within four episodes it's going to be "Jon is dead. Actually Jon is not dead. Oh and here's his mother. And BTW Ned isn't his dad. Oh and actually he's a Targaryen too and has the strongest blood claim to the Iron Throne (assuming Rhaegar and Lyanna were married)." I understand why they delayed the Tower Of Joy to this season but this pacing plus the lack of parentage hints until last season makes for odd plotting to me. Could feel like bullshit to some show watchers.

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[Tasty]

I really want to see Jon gut Ollie like the traitorous fuckstain he is.

They pretty much showed a baby and his mom getting torn apart by rabid dogs this week so something like that isn't completely off the books (no pun intended.)

[Shaka Khan]

One potential problem I foresee about next week

Book spoilers

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A lot of the Jon stuff is gonna feel really rushed. Basically within four episodes it's going to be "Jon is dead. Actually Jon is not dead. Oh and here's his mother. And BTW Ned isn't his dad. Oh and actually he's a Targaryen too and has the strongest blood claim to the Iron Throne (assuming Rhaegar and Lyanna were married)." I understand why they delayed the Tower Of Joy to this season but this pacing plus the lack of parentage hints until last season makes for odd plotting to me. Could feel like bullshit to some show watchers.

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I haven't read the books, and I haven't been keeping up with the most plausible theories regarding the partentage. Can I get a summary?

[Tasty]

R+L=J brehs

[Sausage]

One potential problem I foresee about next week

Book spoilers

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A lot of the Jon stuff is gonna feel really rushed. Basically within four episodes it's going to be "Jon is dead. Actually Jon is not dead. Oh and here's his mother. And BTW Ned isn't his dad. Oh and actually he's a Targaryen too and has the strongest blood claim to the Iron Throne (assuming Rhaegar and Lyanna were married)." I understand why they delayed the Tower Of Joy to this season but this pacing plus the lack of parentage hints until last season makes for odd plotting to me. Could feel like bullshit to some show watchers.

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I haven't read the books, and I haven't been keeping up with the most plausible theories regarding the partentage. Can I get a summary?

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It's not really a theory at this point. Rhaegar is Danaerys's older brother Lyanna is Ned's sister, and the whole reason the war was started was because they ran off and made Jon

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[Phoenix Dark]

One potential problem I foresee about next week

Book spoilers

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A lot of the Jon stuff is gonna feel really rushed. Basically within four episodes it's going to be "Jon is dead. Actually Jon is not dead. Oh and here's his mother. And BTW Ned isn't his dad. Oh and actually he's a Targaryen too and has the strongest blood claim to the Iron Throne (assuming Rhaegar and Lyanna were married)." I understand why they delayed the Tower Of Joy to this season but this pacing plus the lack of parentage hints until last season makes for odd plotting to me. Could feel like bullshit to some show watchers.

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I haven't read the books, and I haven't been keeping up with the most plausible theories regarding the partentage. Can I get a summary?

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https://m.

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[I'm a Puppy!]

what the fucky fuck fuck was that shit?!

The bolton murder telegraphed from on high. And "I prefer to be an only child?" WTF?
The Iron Borne? About 3 years too late
Theon "I gotta go home. Why? For reasons."
Tyrion being a dragon tamer by telling them stories?
And Davos being the one who convinces the Melly to regain her faith?
And that "battle" for the fort. It's like "Oh noes! They have a giant! Just like the dozens of giants we've already fought. Better drop our weapons."
Jamie trying to take on the Sparrow?
Cersei, the fucking raging bitch of Lannister backing down to the royal guard when she's never backed down to anyone on anything but sure, she'll let it keep her from her daughter's funeral. Yeah, that makes sense.

What the fuck was that? I mean I expect the sandsnakes to suddenly show up in any scene at this point. At least Silicon Valley doesn't let me down.

[El Babua]

They gotta set up for the endgame breh. Logic is gone, just enjoy the ride. 

[Shaka Khan]

One potential problem I foresee about next week

Book spoilers

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A lot of the Jon stuff is gonna feel really rushed. Basically within four episodes it's going to be "Jon is dead. Actually Jon is not dead. Oh and here's his mother. And BTW Ned isn't his dad. Oh and actually he's a Targaryen too and has the strongest blood claim to the Iron Throne (assuming Rhaegar and Lyanna were married)." I understand why they delayed the Tower Of Joy to this season but this pacing plus the lack of parentage hints until last season makes for odd plotting to me. Could feel like bullshit to some show watchers.

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I haven't read the books, and I haven't been keeping up with the most plausible theories regarding the partentage. Can I get a summary?

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https://m.

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[Mandark]

Interested in seeing what happens when Davos finds out about what Melisandre did to Shireen.  Really hoping they don't just paper over that, similar to how Sansa suddenly accepted Reek as a close confidante.

And that "battle" for the fort. It's like "Oh noes! They have a giant! Just like the dozens of giants we've already fought. Better drop our weapons."

I mean, those giants were on the other side of a fuck-huge wall.

[toku]

Yeah idk why you'd give them shit for that. Even if they all focused on the giant how many wildings were still there? That'd be a very horrific and bloody L. That giant was gonna murk at least half of them before being mortally wounded.

[El Babua]

 

[meeb]

Why did they change Hodor's name from Walder to Willis?

[meeb]

People are going to be so confused when they reveal Jon's parentage. The people I know that watch it don't even remember those characters at all.

[meeb]

what the fucky fuck fuck was that shit?!

The bolton murder telegraphed from on high. And "I prefer to be an only child?" WTF?
The Iron Borne? About 3 years too late
Theon "I gotta go home. Why? For reasons."
Tyrion being a dragon tamer by telling them stories?
And Davos being the one who convinces the Melly to regain her faith?
And that "battle" for the fort. It's like "Oh noes! They have a giant! Just like the dozens of giants we've already fought. Better drop our weapons."
Jamie trying to take on the Sparrow?
Cersei, the fucking raging bitch of Lannister backing down to the royal guard when she's never backed down to anyone on anything but sure, she'll let it keep her from her daughter's funeral. Yeah, that makes sense.

What the fuck was that? I mean I expect the sandsnakes to suddenly show up in any scene at this point. At least Silicon Valley doesn't let me down.

There's a joke theory that Tyrion actually has Targaryen blood, because Tywin's wife may have cheated at some point. Which would make the dragon taming make sense. And be fucking hilarious.

[Phoenix Dark]

I wouldn't say "cheating" lol. The rumor is that she was raped. I don't believe it personally and hope it's not true.

The probably changed Hodor's name so that the show doesn't have multiple characters with the same name. Makes sense.

[studyguy]

what the fucky fuck fuck was that shit?!

The bolton murder telegraphed from on high. And "I prefer to be an only child?" WTF?
The Iron Borne? About 3 years too late
Theon "I gotta go home. Why? For reasons."
Tyrion being a dragon tamer by telling them stories?
And Davos being the one who convinces the Melly to regain her faith?
And that "battle" for the fort. It's like "Oh noes! They have a giant! Just like the dozens of giants we've already fought. Better drop our weapons."
Jamie trying to take on the Sparrow?
Cersei, the fucking raging bitch of Lannister backing down to the royal guard when she's never backed down to anyone on anything but sure, she'll let it keep her from her daughter's funeral. Yeah, that makes sense.

What the fuck was that? I mean I expect the sandsnakes to suddenly show up in any scene at this point. At least Silicon Valley doesn't let me down.

Last episode was maaaad cheese.
Like Ramsay a comic book villain now. Leaders getting done dirty left and right since the first episode and the whole kingdom being ready to flip because reasons, shit's too much.

Waiting on Iron Isles to become Dorne 2.0, hope they don't but for people not reading the books like my girlfriend shit's funny.

"Who the fuck are these guys are they new"
"Nah it's Theon's dad"
"Theon had a dad?"
"What the fuck's a Kingsmoot?"

[Phoenix Dark]

I like Victarion for many of the same reasons I liked Cersei's chapters. How often do you get a POV for someone who is just a straight dumbass or (in Vic's case) seems mentally challenged? Plus he acts like I'd expect a heartless pos viking to act.

affc/dance

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"hey bro I want you to travel to the end of the earth with this horn and kidnap the most beautiful woman in the world alongside her dragons. Then bring them back to me ok? BTW sorry I fucked your wife"

"...Ok"
 

He doesn't realize this shit is a trap?

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Doesn't he plan on just double crossing his brother and taking the dragons for himself? I mean it doesnt matter since it is all a trap anyway, but at least Vic isn't being a pure doormat.

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Feast

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Yes but that's a part of the stupidity. He literally thinks Euron gave him a dragon taming horn, asked him to bring a beautiful woman back to him etc and never really thinks "wait, this is a trick." Why would Victarion believe that his brother would trust him to bring back this stuff and say "here you go Euron, here's your dragons and wife. Guess I'll go back to being a pirate now." It's a trick god dammit. You think you're gonna steal all this shit and you're going to end up dying, screaming/burning.

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[Shaka Khan]

There's a joke theory that Tyrion actually has Targaryen blood, because Tywin's wife may have cheated at some point. Which would make the dragon taming make sense. And be fucking hilarious.

I think it's plausible. Making him the third head of the three headed dragon or whatevs. And an actual rightful heir, since he'd be older than Danny, and Jon (his nephew) doesn't give af about the throne (yet).

I mean he wanted a dragon when he was a kid. And tiny stature could be a metaphor of dragons in captivity.

[meeb]

There's a joke theory that Tyrion actually has Targaryen blood, because Tywin's wife may have cheated at some point. Which would make the dragon taming make sense. And be fucking hilarious.

I think it's plausible. Making him the third head of dragon. And actual rightful heir since Jon doesn't give af about the throne (yet).

I mean he wanted a dragon when he was a kid. And tiny stature could be a metaphor of dragons in captivity.

Jon actually has no right to the throne even if he was a Targ by blood. That's part of being in the Nights Watch. You give up any claims like that.

[Sausage]

Why did they change Hodor's name from Walder to Willis?

Because of the Freys

[Shaka Khan]

There's a joke theory that Tyrion actually has Targaryen blood, because Tywin's wife may have cheated at some point. Which would make the dragon taming make sense. And be fucking hilarious.

I think it's plausible. Making him the third head of dragon. And actual rightful heir since Jon doesn't give af about the throne (yet).

I mean he wanted a dragon when he was a kid. And tiny stature could be a metaphor of dragons in captivity.

Jon actually has no right to the throne even if he was a Targ by blood. That's part of being in the Nights Watch. You give up any claims like that.

Well that's an easy one.

"Hear my words and bear witness to my vow. Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."

[Phoenix Dark]

Jonathan Pryce

I need to watch Brazil again

[eleuin]

Snow Jesus back to save the show 

[Dennis]

Good episode.

I admit I had forgotten that Balon was the final leech Mellisandre threw into the fire for Stannis.

Her prophecy came since they are alll dead now....

[bluemax]

I wouldn't say "cheating" lol. The rumor is that she was raped. I don't believe it personally and hope it's not true.

The probably changed Hodor's name so that the show doesn't have multiple characters with the same name. Makes sense.

Yeah they already have a history of changing character names to prevent duplicate names, Theon's sister for example.

Its funny seeing people complain that everything feels "rushed", it just feels rushed because people are used to GURM's glacial pacing and flimsy world building that ultimately goes nowhere. If you strip away the monotonous descriptions of Lemoncakes and Heraldry of minor dead houses this is what you're left with, plot.

[ZephyrFate]

Looks like the longest known book theory will be answered as everyone predicted.

[bluemax]

There are supposedly spoilers for a massive battle out there on the intertubes. Based on the preview for episode 3 some of it is at least plausible.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Audible cheers for Olly getting strung up

[Purple Filth]

Audible cheers for Olly getting strung up

about time.

what a piece of shit

[Purple Filth]

saw this in the gaf thread



 

[Phoenix Dark]

Another subpar episode. Lots of very odd scenes in terms of tone and writing, and the short cuts are having ripple effects. As an example the dialogue in the first scene: "I was dead, now I'm back and don't know why etc etc." Yikes. But perhaps it's fitting as the entire resurrection has had so little weight or drama. Beric was brought back in S3 and noted parts of humanity (and memory) are now lost. Yet Jon is rezzed with no consequences or change of character. If this was the direction they wanted to go in, why change

mild spoiler all books

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that he's a warg, and living in Ghost allowed him to avoid losing his humanity? It feels like they just took the easy route, did it as quickly as possible, and here we are.

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Similarly the Small Council scene just felt trivial. Yes, Jaime has a seat on the council...the show confirmed that Barristan sat on the Small Council a couple seasons ago.

In terms of the Tower of Joy...

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Guessing Bran will return to the past at some point, without Bloodraven, and see what happens next.

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The fight was really well done although I'm surprised they basically wrote Dawn out the show in order to make Dayne a dual wielder.

[toku]

I disagree my biggest gripe is the cut to bran diving into past shit just felt so out of place in this ep. I'd honestly rather them just do like an entire ep aroudn Bran stuff maybe Khaleesi too. In the sense that both characters are kinda "stuck" or at least in a position they have very little control over right now.

And I still think it's too early to call Jon being rezzed with no consequences.

[Mandark]

Beric was brought back in S3 and noted parts of humanity (and memory) are now lost. Yet Jon is rezzed with no consequences or change of character. If this was the direction they wanted to go in, why change

mild spoiler all books

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that he's a warg, and living in Ghost allowed him to avoid losing his humanity? It feels like they just took the easy route, did it as quickly as possible, and here we are.

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Whaaaaaaaaaaat.

"Guys, remember that one throwaway line from a minor character three seasons ago?  It's really important that we maintain 100% consistency with how he described the effects of his resurrections, even though we never actually demonstrated those effects in the show.  So we need to squeeze in a couple scenes to explain this, and also give a main character a new magical power which might or might not be relevant later."

Someone needs to make a direwolf version of

[toku]

I could be remembering wrong too but isn't Beric like at least half a dozen rez's deep by time we hit s3 shit? PD wants Jon to wake up and forget his niccas on the wall and shit off the first time or somehow give interior dialog about how he can't recall his first pets name aka some book ass shit when this is a god damn tv show.

[Tasty]

DIE OLLIE FUCKING DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT INBRED ASSHOLE

BURN IN HELL WITH THE REST OF YOUR WRETCHED KIN YOU PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT

YAAAAASSSS

[Purple Filth]

I could be remembering wrong too but isn't Beric like at least half a dozen rez's deep by time we hit s3 shit? PD wants Jon to wake up and forget his niccas on the wall and shit off the first time or somehow give interior dialog about how he can't recall his first pets name aka some book ass shit when this is a god damn tv show.

Yea his loss/death to Sandor was his 6th

[Phoenix Dark]

I don't want him to forget everything but him coming back with full memory and being exactly the same is a cop out. It's not about throwaway lines either, the show already established what happens when you get rezz'd by the lord of light.

I can't be the only person who found this entire rez process abrupt and rushed.

[Brehvolution]

Young Ned Stark was NPH? 

[Human Snorenado]

The fight was really well done although I'm surprised they basically wrote Dawn out the show in order to make Dayne a dual wielder.

Get sad about leaving a sword out of an adaptation, brehs

[Phoenix Dark]

Just figured it would be cool to see but maybe a super light sword would look weird with CGI? Not sure how you could do it without it looking like a corny, semi light saber

[Sausage]

tbf it's a really cool sword

[Human Snorenado]

tbf it's a really cool sword

It's a cool sword, but it's pretty much just added fluff and not integral to any part of the plot, even in a minor way. And they already changed that scene a lot when they went from 7 on Ned's side vs. 3 Kingsguard to just 5 vs. 2, removing Gerold Hightower and making Dayne the head Kingsguard there. All of which was fine.

It's basically just a sword. NBD. If, say, in any potential adaptation of the Wheel of Time they chose to remove Callandor, that would be problematic. This is not.

[Phoenix Dark]

Just a sword that might be Lightbringer