Game of Thrones Season 6 Thread "I choose violence"

[I'm a Puppy!]

Better episode than last. Didn't really have many objections to much of it. The Gilly thing was funny, "I'm never going to leave you!" two minutes later, "OK. I'll leave you." Gotta get that plot thread tied up quick.

The only really major thing that I didn't like was the Rickon thing. It seems like the writers were like "The show needs a villain! Who is going to be it? We just had Sansa run away....Hey wait a minute, what if we gave him a different Stark to play with? Brilliant!!"

[Phoenix Dark]

I think...

vague Dance stuff, tv speculation

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I don't buy that the Umbers are selling out Rickon, I think it's a ruse. Basically a tv version of the Manderlys/grand northern conspiracy in ADWD. The only thing that makes me think I'm wrong is...how do you fake a direwolf head. Still, Smalljon refusing to pledge loyalty to Ramsay as dictated by northern customs seemed important. It kinda reminded me of Manderly adhering to guest right customs until the minute the Freys left his land.

I'm guessing Osha will also become Ramsay's new girlfriend while secretly killing Bolton loyalists inside Winterfell, also like the hooded man in ADWD.

I'm guessing the Umbers will fuck over Ramsay during the big battle that's coming.

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[Human Snorenado]

I think...

vague Dance stuff, tv speculation

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I don't buy that the Umbers are selling out Rickon, I think it's a ruse. Basically a tv version of the Manderlys/grand northern conspiracy in ADWD. The only thing that makes me think I'm wrong is...how do you fake a direwolf head. Still, Smalljon refusing to pledge loyalty to Ramsay as dictated by northern customs seemed important. It kinda reminded me of Manderly adhering to guest right customs until the minute the Freys left his land.

I'm guessing Osha will also become Ramsay's new girlfriend while secretly killing Bolton loyalists inside Winterfell, also like the hooded man in ADWD.

I'm guessing the Umbers will fuck over Ramsay during the big battle that's coming.

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Agreed.

[eleuin]

Jon Snow invented cunnilingus to compensate for a small dick 

[Kara]

Beric was brought back in S3 and noted parts of humanity (and memory) are now lost. Yet Jon is rezzed with no consequences or change of character. If this was the direction they wanted to go in, why change

mild spoiler all books

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that he's a warg, and living in Ghost allowed him to avoid losing his humanity? It feels like they just took the easy route, did it as quickly as possible, and here we are.

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He executed a kid and abandoned his sworn oath, sure seems like he lost some humanity to me.

The scene you're talking about is probably my favorite scene in the entire show and if anything I've appreciated how in sync with it this season has been so far. Mel is more or less reliving what that whiskey priest went through.

[bluemax]

I think...

vague Dance stuff, tv speculation

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I don't buy that the Umbers are selling out Rickon, I think it's a ruse. Basically a tv version of the Manderlys/grand northern conspiracy in ADWD. The only thing that makes me think I'm wrong is...how do you fake a direwolf head. Still, Smalljon refusing to pledge loyalty to Ramsay as dictated by northern customs seemed important. It kinda reminded me of Manderly adhering to guest right customs until the minute the Freys left his land.

I'm guessing Osha will also become Ramsay's new girlfriend while secretly killing Bolton loyalists inside Winterfell, also like the hooded man in ADWD.

I'm guessing the Umbers will fuck over Ramsay during the big battle that's coming.

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If the reddit spoilers are to be believed this isn't how it is gonna play out, but I guess we will see.

[Sausage]

Pretty cool fan made Tower Of Joy scene. Well done.

Of course, do not watch before S6 if you haven't read the books.

... yeah I think I like this version better except for the actual fight.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I think the oath only goes to death, so Jon is a free man again imho.

[Human Snorenado]

I think...

vague Dance stuff, tv speculation

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I don't buy that the Umbers are selling out Rickon, I think it's a ruse. Basically a tv version of the Manderlys/grand northern conspiracy in ADWD. The only thing that makes me think I'm wrong is...how do you fake a direwolf head. Still, Smalljon refusing to pledge loyalty to Ramsay as dictated by northern customs seemed important. It kinda reminded me of Manderly adhering to guest right customs until the minute the Freys left his land.

I'm guessing Osha will also become Ramsay's new girlfriend while secretly killing Bolton loyalists inside Winterfell, also like the hooded man in ADWD.

I'm guessing the Umbers will fuck over Ramsay during the big battle that's coming.

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If the reddit spoilers are to be believed this isn't how it is gonna play out, but I guess we will see.

Link to spoilerz or summary?

[fizzel]

Jon Snow invented cunnilingus to compensate for a small dick 

Do dat wi' 'yer tongue, Jon!.

[bluemax]

I think...

vague Dance stuff, tv speculation

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I don't buy that the Umbers are selling out Rickon, I think it's a ruse. Basically a tv version of the Manderlys/grand northern conspiracy in ADWD. The only thing that makes me think I'm wrong is...how do you fake a direwolf head. Still, Smalljon refusing to pledge loyalty to Ramsay as dictated by northern customs seemed important. It kinda reminded me of Manderly adhering to guest right customs until the minute the Freys left his land.

I'm guessing Osha will also become Ramsay's new girlfriend while secretly killing Bolton loyalists inside Winterfell, also like the hooded man in ADWD.

I'm guessing the Umbers will fuck over Ramsay during the big battle that's coming.

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If the reddit spoilers are to be believed this isn't how it is gonna play out, but I guess we will see.

Link to spoilerz or summary?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I believe these were posted by a dude who was an extra but from what I remember it was basically this:

Jon Snow/Sansa + the loyal north + wildings + Stannis leftovers vs Ramsay Bolton. Ramsay sends Rickon out and tells him to run towards his brother or whatever, then as he is doing that he shoots him with an arrow. This pisses off Snow obviously and start the battle. Ramsey's army is winning, encircling Jon's forces and things look bad for our heroes UNTIL!!!! DUN DUN DUN the totally forgotten about armies of the Vale show up and save the day.

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/4bjqq3/all_spoilersseason_6_behold_every_detail_about/d209kf5

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Edit: Added the link.

[studyguy]

Rickon isn't a ruse, unless they're telling the kid to lie in interviews he's already said the wolf is dead and said he wasn't filming with the dog they had before.

[Phoenix Dark]

I think...

vague Dance stuff, tv speculation

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I don't buy that the Umbers are selling out Rickon, I think it's a ruse. Basically a tv version of the Manderlys/grand northern conspiracy in ADWD. The only thing that makes me think I'm wrong is...how do you fake a direwolf head. Still, Smalljon refusing to pledge loyalty to Ramsay as dictated by northern customs seemed important. It kinda reminded me of Manderly adhering to guest right customs until the minute the Freys left his land.

I'm guessing Osha will also become Ramsay's new girlfriend while secretly killing Bolton loyalists inside Winterfell, also like the hooded man in ADWD.

I'm guessing the Umbers will fuck over Ramsay during the big battle that's coming.

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If the reddit spoilers are to be believed this isn't how it is gonna play out, but I guess we will see.

Link to spoilerz or summary?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I believe these were posted by a dude who was an extra but from what I remember it was basically this:

Jon Snow/Sansa + the loyal north + wildings + Stannis leftovers vs Ramsay Bolton. Ramsay sends Rickon out and tells him to run towards his brother or whatever, then as he is doing that he shoots him with an arrow. This pisses off Snow obviously and start the battle. Ramsey's army is winning, encircling Jon's forces and things look bad for our heroes UNTIL!!!! DUN DUN DUN the totally forgotten about armies of the Vale show up and save the day.

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/4bjqq3/all_spoilersseason_6_behold_every_detail_about/d209kf5

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Edit: Added the link.

smh

And don't forget

tv spoiler

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Ramsay runs back to Winterfell after losing the battle. Jon chases him. Wun Wun breaks into the Winterfell gate looking for Ramsay. Jon gives Wun Wun a wink or some shit, then all of a sudden Wun Wun gets taken out by an arrow to the eye from Ramsay.

So Ramsay will have fought the "greatest Iron Born killers" bare chested, destroyed the greatest military commander in Westeros with 20 men, killed his father, and killed a giant by the end. 

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[Kara]

House Bolton da gaos.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm at my parents house and my mom keeps going on about her favorite characters. She kept mentioning how she loves "Fritz" and how he was a great character etc etc. after about five minutes I realized she was talking about Reek.

[TVC15]

Another good ep, though I'm finding the Sparrow stuff to be getting boring. Hope they put that to bed soon.

It was nice to see Dany do something badass.

[Phoenix Dark]

Best episode of the season but that ending was

I guess she's fireproof in the show. Ok.

Tormund and Brienne tho, lots of potential for comedic gold

[TVC15]

So was that Dany's face CGIed onto some stripper's body at the end? I thought she renegotiated her contract so that she wouldn't have to get nekkid anymore, right?

[helios]

I thought it was only Cersei that didn't want to be nude anymore.

[TVC15]

“I’d like to remind people the last time I took my clothes off was season 3,” she says. “That was awhile ago. It’s now season 6. But this is all me, all proud, all strong. I’m just feeling genuinely happy I said ‘Yes.’ That ain’t no body double!”


http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/15/game-thrones-emilia-clarke-dany?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

[Purple Filth]

 

Tormund be like  aka  best scene of the entire episode

Also that might be the first ever "troll" letter in Westeros   

Nice that a reunion actually happened and it wasn't the "you just missed him/her" bullshit

[Tasty]

This is like the sixth "episode ends with Dany getting a new army" episode, right?

[CatsCatsCats]

Tormund cracked me up, he clearly wants a slice

[jakefromstatefarm]

This is like the sixth "episode ends with Dany getting a new army" episode, right?

the character works so much better when she's just burning shit and taking names instead of sitting around and moping about being a terrible mother and grandstand on anachronistic views of the proper way to exploit labor

[Sausage]

George RR Martin's first book in the series, A Game Of Thrones, gave his readers no reason to believe that Daenerys was immune to heat damage. However, he also didn't give his readers any reason to believe that she was not immune to heat damage. This natually gave rise to questions after Daenerys' walk into the funeral pyre. Was she fireproof? Or was it some sort of fire/blood magic that protected her from the flames? George addressed this question in an online Q&A in March 1999:

Granny: Do Targaryens become immune to fire once they "bond" to their dragons?

George_RR_Martin: Granny, thanks for asking that. It gives me a chance to clear up a common misconception. TARGARYENS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO FIRE! The birth of Dany's dragons was unique, magical, wonderous, a miracle. She is called The Unburnt because she walked into the flames and lived. But her brother sure as hell wasn't immune to that molten gold.

Revanshe: So she won't be able to do it again?

George_RR_Martin: Probably not.

[Human Snorenado]

Whatever, fuck GURM. He gets a seat back at the table when he releases a book, and it hopefully doesn't suck as bad as the last two. Until then I don't want to hear shit from him, even 1999 version him.

[Mandark]

Stay arguing fire resist percentages.

[curly]

an abortion. might have camp value if it didn't take itself so mind numbingly seriously

[Steve Youngblood]

Having never read the books, I didn't realize that there was even doubt that Dany wasn't supposed to be fireproof. As a show-watcher only, I thought several scenes in season one pretty clearly established that she was.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Man, Emilia really can't act. That stupid smirk the whole time, that's just awful.

[studyguy]

Taking power through burning down a house seems as dumb as the snakes taking power through stabbing some fools. Idk, the whole scene seemed super fucking dumb to me. How did Theon get on a boat? Stannis is finally remembered, I KILLED YOUR KING JOBBER  , Ramsey not OSHA compliant 

The dialogue seems really... modern now somehow too. Especially where Tyrion is concerned.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I don't understand why they're doing the whole Kings Moot thing if they're just going to make Yara king.

[Phoenix Dark]

It's clear Targaryens have more fire resist as a passive trait than normal people (PATH OF EXILE ON STEAM F2P NOW), but they are not fire proof. Martin has said the first example of Dany surviving fire was blood magic, which not only saved her from the fire but also birthed the dragons (she sacrificed her child and the witch). And in Dance/S5 she nearly gets blasted by Drogon in the arena, but it sears her skin and hair.

My problem with the scene wasn't that - if she's fireproof in the show fine, it's the show and the books are the books. My problem was that it was cheesy as fuck. She just knocks down some shit and fire spreads through the entire room in 5 seconds like a cheesy 80s action movie. All while she has a goofy smirk on her face. Why wouldn't they try to kill her?



Viserys died due to molten gold, Aerion died after drinking wildfire, and of course the long list of Targs who were killed by dragon fire.

[TVC15]

PD distressed at a female character being a badass smh

Viserys was way cooler, tho. He's like my favorite character.

[studyguy]

Bruh this chick just burned out fucking leaders to the ground. We got bows and knives and shit, shouldn't someone like stab her? Oh nah? We're gonna follow her because... okay.

Also Ramsay being a comic book villain is too much:

DEAR BASTARD,
I'MA RAPE YOUR SISTER, YOUR BROTHER, HIS DOG AND FUCK YOUR FAMILY GRAVE STONES WHILE I'M AT IT. HERE'S A PICTURE OF MY DICK

Signed,
                
xX_R&mZaY420_Xx

[Human Snorenado]

You can try and play it off all you like, but your problem IS the divergence from the books, which you put on a pedestal as something more special than they are in reality. Going back and appealing to book authority in your last sentence just proves that.

Plus, it's obvious that someone (the khaleesi she had them spare? Daario and Jorah? ancient stupid Dothraki tradition?) soaked the floor in oil beforehand.

[Tasty]

[Phoenix Dark]

You can try and play it off all you like, but your problem IS the divergence from the books, which you put on a pedestal as something more special than they are in reality. Going back and appealing to book authority in your last sentence just proves that.

Plus, it's obvious that someone (the khaleesi she had them spare? Daario and Jorah? ancient stupid Dothraki tradition?) soaked the floor in oil beforehand.

I literally just said I'm fine with her being fireproof. It's not a big deal to me, I just figured I'd pointed it out. My problem is the scene.

How did they sneak in, and when? The dudes were in the room when Daario/Jorah found Dany. It's another case of getting to C before establishing A or B. I call it Ramsey's Theory.

[TVC15]

So, I'm guessing we all agree that Rickon's gonna die, right?

[Phoenix Dark]

Puberty really hit all the boys in the show pretty rough, huh. By S7 Hodor will be carrying around 7 foot Bran


#SaveHodor'sBack

[TVC15]

Robin being as tall as Littlefinger got a lil lol out of me.

[Tasty]

Isaac Wright is a cutie though. He'll be fine stock in a few more years.

[studyguy]

Puberty stick hit that Robin actor real, real hard.
For a supposedly sickly kid you can tell they're making him wear baggy clothes to make him look thinner than he actually is. Dude was stouter than Littlefinger at this point.

[bluemax]

The kids growing up in real time makes some of the interactions weirder/different/less creepy than in the books.

I think the biggest thing I'm bummed about this season is how utterly boring and useless Jamie Lannister is. His arc in books 4a and 4b was probably the only really good piece of writing GURM did in those.

[CajoleJuice]

Man, Emilia really can't act. That stupid smirk the whole time, that's just awful.

Glad I wasn't the only one annoyed by this.

[Kara]

How did they sneak in, and when? The dudes were in the room when Daario/Jorah found Dany. It's another case of getting to C before establishing A or B. I call it Ramsey's Theory.

Do you call it Ramsey's Theory because you think it's clever to rename nonlinear narrative to something disparaging or do you call it Ramsey's Theory because your consumption pattern in life went something like Harry Potter ---> A Song of Ice and Fire and are unaware of the technique.

[Kara]

I'm not trying to be mean but like seriously you're complaining that a story didn't spoon feed you cause and effect in chronological order...

[Cerveza mas fina]

Man, Emilia really can't act. That stupid smirk the whole time, that's just awful.

You mean sexy right

[seagrams hotsauce]

Can we give a moment to the show writers for killing Ollie? They hung a child for fanservice. Say what you will about them, beniof and weiss know how to cater to their audience. Still a top 5 moment on this stupid ass show

[Phoenix Dark]

How did they sneak in, and when? The dudes were in the room when Daario/Jorah found Dany. It's another case of getting to C before establishing A or B. I call it Ramsey's Theory.

Do you call it Ramsey's Theory because you think it's clever to rename nonlinear narrative to something disparaging or do you call it Ramsey's Theory because your consumption pattern in life went something like Harry Potter ---> A Song of Ice and Fire and are unaware of the technique.

I'll have you know I was reading Dragonlance while you were taking managerial accounting classes, old man
 

[bluemax]

I'm not trying to be mean but like seriously you're complaining that a story didn't spoon feed you cause and effect in chronological order...

Some people seem to get really mad when this show skips over mundane stuff.

These are the same people who praise GURM's boring descriptions of useless stuff as "effective world building".

[bluemax]

More hot spoilers:

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North of the wall: - Bran has a vision in which he finds out the Children of the Forest are the ones who created the white walkers to guard something, but it went wrong. He has another vision about Tower of Joy, we see a baby, Lyanna whispers something to Ned, and we cut to Jon. Bran sees the whitewalkers in his vision (episode 5 possibly?) and the Night King senses him, and they find them. Night King kills 3 eyed raven, the others escape.

Castle Black/North: -Jon and Sansa go to bear island and the mormont girl backs Jon as the King of the North, so does Sansa apparently. They get support of several Northern houses, but apparently the Mormonts only have a hundred men left to pledge. Overall seems a bit funny. Davos is there and has a sick speech. Other houses pledge to Jon as King of the North. -Sansa meets up with Littlefinger in episode 5 in Moat Cailin(?) and says she doesn't believe he didnt know about Ramsay. She doesn't want anything to do with him. -Bastardbowl happens, at the start Rickon is running towards Jon who rides to him, but just when he arrives Ramsay aims for him to die and he dies in Jons arms. Team Jon wins in the end (unknown if its because Littlefinger or not) and he imprisons Ramsay, he does not kill him. Wun Wun survives, no other Stark dies.

Kings Landing: - Tommen jumps out of the window and kills himself. - Tyrells/Other big Kings Landing actors get slaughtered in the end, red wedding style. - Cersei's trial by combat gets denied, Mountain kills the Septa Unella.

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Dude who posted these originally has a track record of posting real spoilers.

[curly]

I'm not trying to be mean but like seriously you're complaining that a story didn't spoon feed you cause and effect in chronological order...

Some people seem to get really mad when this show skips over mundane stuff.

These are the same people who praise GURM's boring descriptions of useless stuff as "effective world building".

Two dudes sneaking into the Dothraki capitol hut and coating the place with oil isn't really mundane stuff though. The Dothrakis are supposed to be the equivalent of the Huns but all it takes to assassinate their leaders is five minutes off-screen prep time. That whole story line felt cheap and half-assed.

[CatsCatsCats]

Probably should have been a dragon and they just wanted to save that cgi budget

[Human Snorenado]

speculation

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http://uproxx.com/tv/game-of-thrones-pink-letter-littlefinger-theory/2/

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[Phoenix Dark]

speculation

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I've been wondering about that. Only thing that makes me doubtful is that the show went out its way to show a Bolton rider deliver the letter, and it was sealed with the Bolton sigil. Whereas in Dance the letter just has pink wax. It could all be a ruse, but as with the Shaggydog head it seems like an up front tell that what we're seeing is the real deal.

BTW I'm pretty sure Mance sent the letter in Dance.

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[helios]

More hot spoilers:

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North of the wall: - Bran has a vision in which he finds out the Children of the Forest are the ones who created the white walkers to guard something, but it went wrong. He has another vision about Tower of Joy, we see a baby, Lyanna whispers something to Ned, and we cut to Jon. Bran sees the whitewalkers in his vision (episode 5 possibly?) and the Night King senses him, and they find them. Night King kills 3 eyed raven, the others escape.

Castle Black/North: -Jon and Sansa go to bear island and the mormont girl backs Jon as the King of the North, so does Sansa apparently. They get support of several Northern houses, but apparently the Mormonts only have a hundred men left to pledge. Overall seems a bit funny. Davos is there and has a sick speech. Other houses pledge to Jon as King of the North. -Sansa meets up with Littlefinger in episode 5 in Moat Cailin(?) and says she doesn't believe he didnt know about Ramsay. She doesn't want anything to do with him. -Bastardbowl happens, at the start Rickon is running towards Jon who rides to him, but just when he arrives Ramsay aims for him to die and he dies in Jons arms. Team Jon wins in the end (unknown if its because Littlefinger or not) and he imprisons Ramsay, he does not kill him. Wun Wun survives, no other Stark dies.

Kings Landing: - Tommen jumps out of the window and kills himself. - Tyrells/Other big Kings Landing actors get slaughtered in the end, red wedding style. - Cersei's trial by combat gets denied, Mountain kills the Septa Unella.

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If Tommen dies, who is the next in line?

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[TVC15]

More hot spoilers:

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North of the wall: - Bran has a vision in which he finds out the Children of the Forest are the ones who created the white walkers to guard something, but it went wrong. He has another vision about Tower of Joy, we see a baby, Lyanna whispers something to Ned, and we cut to Jon. Bran sees the whitewalkers in his vision (episode 5 possibly?) and the Night King senses him, and they find them. Night King kills 3 eyed raven, the others escape.

Castle Black/North: -Jon and Sansa go to bear island and the mormont girl backs Jon as the King of the North, so does Sansa apparently. They get support of several Northern houses, but apparently the Mormonts only have a hundred men left to pledge. Overall seems a bit funny. Davos is there and has a sick speech. Other houses pledge to Jon as King of the North. -Sansa meets up with Littlefinger in episode 5 in Moat Cailin(?) and says she doesn't believe he didnt know about Ramsay. She doesn't want anything to do with him. -Bastardbowl happens, at the start Rickon is running towards Jon who rides to him, but just when he arrives Ramsay aims for him to die and he dies in Jons arms. Team Jon wins in the end (unknown if its because Littlefinger or not) and he imprisons Ramsay, he does not kill him. Wun Wun survives, no other Stark dies.

Kings Landing: - Tommen jumps out of the window and kills himself. - Tyrells/Other big Kings Landing actors get slaughtered in the end, red wedding style. - Cersei's trial by combat gets denied, Mountain kills the Septa Unella.

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If this is true, that's a helluva episode.

[Phoenix Dark]

More hot spoilers:

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North of the wall: - Bran has a vision in which he finds out the Children of the Forest are the ones who created the white walkers to guard something, but it went wrong. He has another vision about Tower of Joy, we see a baby, Lyanna whispers something to Ned, and we cut to Jon. Bran sees the whitewalkers in his vision (episode 5 possibly?) and the Night King senses him, and they find them. Night King kills 3 eyed raven, the others escape.

Castle Black/North: -Jon and Sansa go to bear island and the mormont girl backs Jon as the King of the North, so does Sansa apparently. They get support of several Northern houses, but apparently the Mormonts only have a hundred men left to pledge. Overall seems a bit funny. Davos is there and has a sick speech. Other houses pledge to Jon as King of the North. -Sansa meets up with Littlefinger in episode 5 in Moat Cailin(?) and says she doesn't believe he didnt know about Ramsay. She doesn't want anything to do with him. -Bastardbowl happens, at the start Rickon is running towards Jon who rides to him, but just when he arrives Ramsay aims for him to die and he dies in Jons arms. Team Jon wins in the end (unknown if its because Littlefinger or not) and he imprisons Ramsay, he does not kill him. Wun Wun survives, no other Stark dies.

Kings Landing: - Tommen jumps out of the window and kills himself. - Tyrells/Other big Kings Landing actors get slaughtered in the end, red wedding style. - Cersei's trial by combat gets denied, Mountain kills the Septa Unella.

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If Tommen dies, who is the next in line?

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House Baratheon would be extinguished and there would be a Great Council. IIRC the line of succession, based on Targaryen blood, would be

Robert>Joffery>Tommen>(Stannis/Renly, who were removed from the succession due to rebellion)>Doran Martell>Trystane Martell>Myrcella>Shireen>Daenerys. Jon would technically have the better claim but given that only 2-3 people know who his parents actually are, I doubt he'd be able to convince everyone that he should be king. Not to mention that he was brought back to life by a supporter of the Lord of Light, whereas the Council would be heavily influenced by the Faith.

So a Great Council, basically with Dany and perhaps Gendry as candidates. And whatever decision was made I'd expect the ruler to be determined by conquest. I can't imagine the Tyrells simply saying "oh well" and letting Dany become queen, for instance. They'd try to crown Loras IMO. Regardless I'd expect a war for the throne.

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[toku]

More hot spoilers:

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North of the wall: - Bran has a vision in which he finds out the Children of the Forest are the ones who created the white walkers to guard something, but it went wrong. He has another vision about Tower of Joy, we see a baby, Lyanna whispers something to Ned, and we cut to Jon. Bran sees the whitewalkers in his vision (episode 5 possibly?) and the Night King senses him, and they find them. Night King kills 3 eyed raven, the others escape.

Castle Black/North: -Jon and Sansa go to bear island and the mormont girl backs Jon as the King of the North, so does Sansa apparently. They get support of several Northern houses, but apparently the Mormonts only have a hundred men left to pledge. Overall seems a bit funny. Davos is there and has a sick speech. Other houses pledge to Jon as King of the North. -Sansa meets up with Littlefinger in episode 5 in Moat Cailin(?) and says she doesn't believe he didnt know about Ramsay. She doesn't want anything to do with him. -Bastardbowl happens, at the start Rickon is running towards Jon who rides to him, but just when he arrives Ramsay aims for him to die and he dies in Jons arms. Team Jon wins in the end (unknown if its because Littlefinger or not) and he imprisons Ramsay, he does not kill him. Wun Wun survives, no other Stark dies.

Kings Landing: - Tommen jumps out of the window and kills himself. - Tyrells/Other big Kings Landing actors get slaughtered in the end, red wedding style. - Cersei's trial by combat gets denied, Mountain kills the Septa Unella.

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sounds like all the things that kings landing rulers have deserved for five seasons now finally catching up to them. Gonna be interesting to see how the pull of motivation for Tommen suicide tho. I don't see him having the stones for something like that.

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