VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[Momo]

There's no way the usual cretins will call out evilore for being in attendance and enjoying a 'controversial' comedy set, that's reserved for users who have no power and others off site. They know the second they do so tyler will end their shit in a heartbeat.

[Trurl]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=232606988

This just comes across as insane.  If somebody called me a virgin back when I was a virgin I would quietly feel bad about it and change the subject, if anyone called me one now I would say"nuh uh" and change the subject.

It's hilarious that at the heart of GAF is a masculinity as insecure as Tom Cruise in Magnolia.

That said people are complicated, it's just one post, yada yada yada

[railGUN]

I'll never quite understand the hypocrisy of the majority of progressive posters, posting on a message board that's owned by a shitlord. All it takes is a few minutes of research to expose all the nasty shit EL has done in the past. But these uber-progressive rats follow their pied piper because... reasons?

[Valkyrie]

I'll never quite understand the hypocrisy of the majority of progressive posters, posting on a message board that's owned by a shitlord. All it takes is a few minutes of research to expose all the nasty shit EL has done in the past. But these uber-progressive rats follow their pied piper because... reasons?

Tag fishing and future mod hopes. Watch all the thirsty tag fishers in meta threads, it's disturbing.

[stufte]

I'll never quite understand the hypocrisy of the majority of progressive posters, posting on a message board that's owned by a shitlord. All it takes is a few minutes of research to expose all the nasty shit EL has done in the past. But these uber-progressive rats follow their pied piper because... reasons?

Yah I practically break my eyes rolling them when I see people virtue signaling in those "separating the art from the artist" threads. "I won't consume content made by garbage people". *continues to post on NeoGAF* 

[Atramental]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232604321&postcount=62

user deleted over a crappy joke

EL has no chill.

EviLore? More like EgoWhore.

Fixed

[Joe Molotov]

More like EvilBORE, amirite? wait...

[Mr. Nobody]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232604321&postcount=62

user deleted over a crappy joke

Validate jokes by getting in your feelings brehs

Get in shape and still be that fat socially awkward loser inside brehs

[Averon]

I'll never quite understand the hypocrisy of the majority of progressive posters, posting on a message board that's owned by a shitlord. All it takes is a few minutes of research to expose all the nasty shit EL has done in the past. But these uber-progressive rats follow their pied piper because... reasons?

People there know that EL is a thin skinned asshole. Look how quickly many turned on Bish when he was demodded.

The fear of losing their GAF account is the only thing keeping their mouths shut.

[FStop7]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232604321&postcount=62

user deleted over a crappy joke

[bork]

He was just saying "accept this" to the username change from lord zimmer to lord virgin. Decided to keep the joke by changing the avatar, tyler didn't though that was acceptable.

So Lord Zimmer rolled with the joke and Evilore couldn't take getting one-upped by the avatar change, then perma-banned and guested his account?  LOL. 

Since things played out pretty quickly: former member followed up the initial exchange, which I was fine with leaving as-is at that point, by swapping his avatar to a photo of me after the name change, which besides the continued escalation is a little inherently creepy. And not too bright.

Y'know, I get the sense that at most other points of NeoGAF's history this would've been a fun, easygoing thread. Right? But it's not at all.

A'ight.

Seems like it was a fun, easygoing thread until someone got pissed off at a stupid joke, retaliated against the guy by changing his name, then perm'd him and locked the thread after the guy changed his avatar.

But hey, that's what he gets for fucking with the admin, I guess.  I wonder if it will get to the point when no one will reply to Evilore's posts out of fear that their accounts will be banned.

[El Babua]

Evilore can play the power hungry admin bit if he had a sense of humor and self awareness but he absolutely doesn't.

Dude is a legit creep and any woman GAFer that's had extended interactions with him will tell you the same.

[Rufus]

A look at how some subreddits overlap:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dissecting-trumps-most-rabid-online-following/

Fits best in here, I think.

[FStop7]

He's kind of pathetic.  The dude has it made.  He makes some degree of bank off of the GAF trainwreck.  He could spend the next 20+ years enjoying life yet he's so delicate some random comments on the Internet leave him that angry and rattled.

[bork]

I wonder if Jim from Gaming-Age regrets selling the forum to Tyler.  He could have been the one making money off of it at this point.

[Boredfrom]

A look at how some subreddits overlap:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dissecting-trumps-most-rabid-online-following/

Fits best in here, I think.

Seems to be a lot of data just to say that: Assholes 4chaners are in TheDonald because they like to troll and being dipshits.

[Klelk]

Cmon guys, he's just stressed from helping his ad team fix the ads

[Atramental]

Cmon guys, he's just stressed from helping his ad team fix the ads

Yeah, those 80+ hour work weeks must be getting to him. 

edit: or was it 120+ hours? It was something laughably ridiculous.

[VomKriege]

Shame on you for belittling a job creator an entrepreneur. 

[Let's Cyber]

If an admin changes your username to "Lord Virgin", changing your avatar to a real life picture of the admin is the perfect response TBH.

[Rufus]

A look at how some subreddits overlap:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dissecting-trumps-most-rabid-online-following/

Fits best in here, I think.

Seems to be a lot of data just to say that: Assholes 4chaners are in TheDonald because they like to troll and being dipshits.

It's a look into the reactionary landscape on Reddit, which actually shows that it's not just 4channers doing it for the lulz.

[zomgee]

beep boop can not process differences

We should protect all consenting sexual interests in someone's private life as protected classes.

[FunSlower]

beep boop can not process differences

We should protect all consenting sexual interests in someone's private life as protected classes.

NeoGAF is really gonna wrestle with this one for a while.

[Boredfrom]

A look at how some subreddits overlap:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dissecting-trumps-most-rabid-online-following/

Fits best in here, I think.

Seems to be a lot of data just to say that: Assholes 4chaners are in TheDonald because they like to troll and being dipshits.

It's a look into the reactionary landscape on Reddit, which actually shows that it's not just 4channers doing it for the lulz.

Thought the same article mentions that there is definitely a connection with 4chan. Thought it was more a expression in that "obviously the inflammatory assholes will stick with inflammatory reddit groups".

I found interesting how GAF reaction was "why there is no more anime correlation with Alt Right".

[Raist]

Cmon guys, he's just stressed from helping his ad team fix the ads

Yeah, those 80+ hour work weeks must be getting to him. 

edit: or was it 120+ hours? It was something laughably ridiculous.

"160+".

Which leaves 8 hours a week for anything else. Including you know like sleeping and stuff.

[counterhit]

The dynamic between GAF's ideologically consistent mods vs. Evilore's Trump-level insecure machismo is fairly amusing. I recall the time he agreed with Richard Dawkins about the Ahmed the clock boy stuff and the mods and aggressively left posters suddenly slithered back into the shadows. Pretty much says it all in terms of principles (which at least EatChildren showed in a case of another mod losing her account because of him not dating transwoman/"transphobia"). Kind of wish it came up more, but then again, he hardly seems involved with the forum.

Don't really believe him and Bish didn't bump heads.

[etiolate]

A look at how some subreddits overlap:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dissecting-trumps-most-rabid-online-following/

Fits best in here, I think.

This was an ignorant article and the writer is getting currently lectured in some of those subreddits as we speak. I give him props for stepping into the threads and admitting he wrote the article. I'll give him more props if he listens to the people and realizes his mistakes.

What he did was take a presumption, then create a formula, and he changed the variables of that formula until he got the results that best let him write his presumption. The overlap between t_d and /r/Conservative isn't clickbait enough, so keep switching around what you subtract from or add to the maingroup until you get a spicy headline. On top of that, he erroneously labeled some subreddits as hate reddits out of his own ignorance.

To go a bit further:

The fact that commenting in a subreddit doesn't mean you support that subreddit doesn't seem to even be taken into question. Consider the overlap between t_d and r/games resulting in TotalBiscuit's subreddit. TB is about as anti-Trump as you can get, and he has gone on rants about Trump, which has resulted in some of his fans getting angry at being labeled racists by him. This then lead to a further discussion between himself and his users on why they vote the way they do. There is discussion between Trump people and TB people without agreement. The overlap is a result of a disagreement rather than agreement, and the conversations that followed. However, if you read this shite article then you'd think TB was a Trumpee.

Data doesn't lie about the data it produces, but the people doing the data lie about what the production means. Analytics are not a substitute for poor observational analysis, and those that lack in that mental specialization who overcompensate for it with heaps of data are doing harm.

Also, my general rule is no to take seriously any article about the internet that doesn't first invoke and understand the mechanics of or the post-irony nature of the net. This nonsense from 538 is exactly why I have the rule. The overlap between donald and 4chan speaks to something entirely different but very relative to any racist overlap. If you don't bother to understand or explain this then you're being dishonest. You're lying via omission and prove t_d right in calling your site fake news.

[FatalT]

Wait no one calling him out for enjoying a sexit transphobic show?

I'm SHOCKED.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=232610139 Of course they are calling him out over the LA special, not the Austin one Lore actually attended

I don't even know how to respond to these banana riders.

[counterhit]

My 15 years old cousin was destroyed by JonTron beliefs
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1354901

This is bordering on parody.

[stufte]

These people need an intervention.

[FatalT]

And. Here. We. Goooo!

"Right, so I'm being condemned for attending a comedy special -- that also happened to be the decade-in-waiting comeback tour for one of the best comedians of all time and my personal favorite -- and laughing? That makes me an enemy of the LGBT community now? Yeah, Dave used some outmoded terms that we try to educate folks about avoiding on here, and he went to some places that could justifiably offend or disappoint some people: white, black, gay, and trans too. The so-easy-Clayton-Bigsby-could-see-it takeaway, though, is that Dave clearly isn't promoting a message of hate or trying to tear down social progress or civil liberties for anyone. He's telling jokes. We can talk about the social impact or appropriateness of these jokes, sure, but your "disgust" at me for laughing at goddamned Dave Chappelle's comedy special is impressively misguided, absurd, and pathetic.

1) Go fuck yourself.

2) Leave.

Thanks for your feedback!"

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=232649232

[thisismyusername]

Permed for that?

[etiolate]

tyler dude just admit you went down a certain  path to score social points and PR for your forum and now can't live a real life and keep up that cultish nonsense at the same time

[FatalT]

Time for an alt account!

[Rufus]

No, time to stop giving a shit about the damned site.

Also, my general rule is no to take seriously any article about the internet that doesn't first invoke and understand the mechanics of or the post-irony nature of the net.

Why do you have to ruin a reasonable post with this shit?

[Averon]

'Lore should have known this was going to happen given the kind of comedian Chapelle is and the type of audience that now make up GAF. It's his own fault, so I don't mind him getting grilled over it.

He can't ban them all!

[FStop7]

If anyone other than Lore had written that paragraph they would have been Carne Besada'd with a side of Lime so fast their heads would have spun off.

What he described, although completely reasonable (other than the fuck off bit), is the complete opposite of what the community he's cultivated represents.

[etiolate]

No, time to stop giving a shit about the damned site.

Also, my general rule is no to take seriously any article about the internet that doesn't first invoke and understand the mechanics of or the post-irony nature of the net.

Why do you have to ruin a reasonable post with this shit?

Because it doesn't ruin it. To discuss a thing you should understand said thing. When you don't bother to be honest about the nature of the internet, then I assume you're trying to mislead or manipulate your audience. You're giving a Dr Phil lecture when you should be getting a real doctor to explain what's happening.

[FatalT]

If anyone other than Lore had written that paragraph they would have been Carne Besada'd so fast their heads would have spun off.

What he described, although completely reasonable (other than the fuck off bit), is the complete opposite of what the community he's cultivated represents.

It's unreasonable. If you attend a Trump debate or rally you're automatically assumed to support Donald Trump. If you join a LGBT parade you're automatically assumed to be either Lesbian, Gay, Bi-Sexual, Transgender, or an Ally. Let alone that the owner of the website that's so LGBT positive is supporting anti-LGBT rights with "jokes" is another issue.

[nachobro]

I don't even know how to respond to these banana riders.

probably with the same impotent rage you used to call out lore

[Trurl]

Is the Chappelle special good?

I get disapproving of some jokes and being offended, I get eagerly waiting for GAF's cognitive dissonance, I get ripping on Evilore for banning people and being thin-skinned, but grilling him for being in that audience is pretty ridiculous.

[FStop7]

If anyone other than Lore had written that paragraph they would have been Carne Besada'd so fast their heads would have spun off.

What he described, although completely reasonable (other than the fuck off bit), is the complete opposite of what the community he's cultivated represents.

It's unreasonable. If you attend a Trump debate or rally you're automatically assumed to support Donald Trump. If you join a LGBT parade you're automatically assumed to be either Lesbian, Gay, Bi-Sexual, Transgender, or an Ally. Let alone that the owner of the website that's so LGBT positive is supporting anti-LGBT rights with "jokes" is another issue.

You're right, it was unreasonable: he wrote "we try to educate around here."  Unless their definition of education is 100 replies consisting of the same REEEE REEE IT'S 2017 lines, face down pinocchio gifs, followed by a ban.

[nachobro]

Is the Chappelle special good?

I get disapproving of some jokes and being offended, I get eagerly waiting for GAF's cognitive dissonance, I get ripping on Evilore for banning people and being thin-skinned, but grilling him for being in that audience is pretty ridiculous.

the second special is better than the first, but the first one has the best long setup joke i've heard in years

[FatalT]

I don't even know how to respond to these banana riders.

probably with the same impotent rage you used to call out lore

You seen the thread lately?

[nachobro]

this thread or the chappelle thread? actually both are raging tire fires. i just wanted to talk about the special but instead it's turned into...that 

[FatalT]

this thread or the chappelle thread? actually both are raging tire fires. i just wanted to talk about the special but instead it's turned into...that 

GAF's Chappelle thread.

Here: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44834.0

[Jansen]

And the people who continue to purchase pieces of corpse from beings that are slaughtered for their own enjoyment and not out of nutritional or economic necessity suffer from psychopathy equally. At this point it's not even an argument of nescience, it's an argument of willful ignorance and complicity.

You have a brain imbalance, bud. Get help.

What I posted was not myopic. I'm speaking of the mass consumption of meat for pleasure. The mass complicity of slaughtering other beings because you want a fucking hamburger. It's interesting you consider what I said an insult too, if a brain imbalance doesn't explain being complicit in the destruction of the lives of thinking and feeling beings for pleasure, what do you think explains it?

Redefine your moral landscape.

Only almost sounds like that? Well shit, I'm not doing a good enough job.

Most people are willfully ignorant of this issue, yes. You are right. They are not nescient, however, which would ABSOLVE THEM OF BLAME. Willful ignorance is choosing to not inform yourself when you have information available to you. Nescience is being uninformed because you lack access to information.

So, it can be said then, that if a person makes a choice to purchase and eat meat without understanding the processes and common practices that go along with cultivating said product, they are being willfully ignorant of the horrors AND THEREFORE NOT ABSOLVED FROM BLAME.

And that's just talking about the sadistic side of meat consumption for pleasure. The issue of determining that your pleasure is worth the end of a life is a separate thing but they still go hand in hand, which is how a literal meat grinder of an industry like this continues to function. Willful ignorance, poor moral fiber and no desire to take personal responsibility for one's choices. I didn't slaughter this pig, I didn't torture that pig. I only bought their corpse so I could feel good for a few moments.

It's not enlightenment to come to the conclusion that the life of a being is not worth ending for a few moments of pleasure. It's decency. It's called being personally responsible for one's own morality.

My value system is deranged because I think it's wrong to end a life for my own pleasure? Re-read what you wrote here, and tell me that you don't think you have a brain imbalance.

I thought the explanation was obvious, sorry. Here you go. Your sense of morality is askew, your values are askew, and your unwillingness to accept that you are complicit in torture and murder for pleasure shows that you are unwilling to take personal responsibility for your actions. You have a brain imbalance.

Is it an insult to say a murderer has a brain imbalance, or is it stating facts?

It absolutely is the same when the information is available, but you chose not to pursue it. It's not as if it's news that killing something for pleasure is wrong, either.

Get as offended as you like. If you're ever able to take personal responsibility for your choices, I hope you'll be gentle when you see that others WILL NOT do the same.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1354918

[bork]

My take is, our own founder of this site was there, he didn't find it offensive as far as we know, so it's ok to laugh at said jokes.   Not saying we ourselves should make jokes like that on this forum but in context of the comedy show I'm comfortable in saying I definitely laughed at them and everything else in the show.   The world needs Dave more than ever.....But what he wants (not to be in the spotlight like that ever again) needs to be respected.

 

[etiolate]

Since I shit on 538, I did find one interesting thing in it: the Sanders/Trump/Clinton overlap ratios.



If you look at this, you can see the Hilary group is isolated in a way. On reddit, I saw Trump/Sanders talk and attempts to get people to cross sides. You saw Sanders/Hilary debates and discord. A lot of urge for movement from Sanders to Hilary came from celebrity types rather than from some place like reddit. This is what happens when your campaign chooses to demonize the internet as a tactic. I'd argue that Shitposter420 was likely a better approach to courting Bernie folks than white girl comedian #38.

[FStop7]

Maybe it wasn't the wisest idea to callout the forum's admin as an enemy to LGBT people on his own forum.

 Maybe.

Gotta admit it's a little funny to see the monster turn on its creator.

[FatalT]

Maybe it wasn't the wisest idea to callout the forum's admin as an enemy to LGBT people on his own forum.

 Maybe.

Maybe, maybe not. Sure as hell stirred the pot though so it wasn't a total waste of an account suicide.

Gotta admit it's a little funny to see the monster turn on its creator.

I'm enjoying it

[Boredfrom]

No, time to stop giving a shit about the damned site.

Also, my general rule is no to take seriously any article about the internet that doesn't first invoke and understand the mechanics of or the post-irony nature of the net.

Why do you have to ruin a reasonable post with this shit?

Because it doesn't ruin it. To discuss a thing you should understand said thing. When you don't bother to be honest about the nature of the internet, then I assume you're trying to mislead or manipulate your audience. You're giving a Dr Phil lecture when you should be getting a real doctor to explain what's happening.

Being totally fair, is way more difficult to distinguish between people that actually believe what hey are writing or just be inflammatory for the sake of it. Worse when it seem to be a mix up of this two and people trying to encourage this cognitive dissonance because ideology.

[Rufus]

No, time to stop giving a shit about the damned site.

Also, my general rule is no to take seriously any article about the internet that doesn't first invoke and understand the mechanics of or the post-irony nature of the net.

Why do you have to ruin a reasonable post with this shit?

Because it doesn't ruin it. To discuss a thing you should understand said thing. When you don't bother to be honest about the nature of the internet, then I assume you're trying to mislead or manipulate your audience. You're giving a Dr Phil lecture when you should be getting a real doctor to explain what's happening.

Being totally fair, is way more difficult to distinguish between people that actually believe what hey are writing or just be inflammatory for the sake of it. Worse when it seem to be a mix up of this two and people trying to encourage this cognitive dissonance because ideology.

Oh, but he has the internet discourse skeleton key. Post-irony!

[etiolate]

No, time to stop giving a shit about the damned site.

Also, my general rule is no to take seriously any article about the internet that doesn't first invoke and understand the mechanics of or the post-irony nature of the net.

Why do you have to ruin a reasonable post with this shit?

Because it doesn't ruin it. To discuss a thing you should understand said thing. When you don't bother to be honest about the nature of the internet, then I assume you're trying to mislead or manipulate your audience. You're giving a Dr Phil lecture when you should be getting a real doctor to explain what's happening.

Being totally fair, is way more difficult to distinguish between people that actually believe what hey are writing or just be inflammatory for the sake of it. Worse when it seem to be a mix up of this two and people trying to encourage this cognitive dissonance because ideology.

If you don't know if one is sincere or insincere, I tend to fall on the insincere side. However, if I was writing about it, I would just openly state that I do not know the true intent of posts and include that these statements may be made to incite or be made with belief behind them.

I error on the side of insincerity because mocking any sense of sincerity of the ideas is what tends to happen either way. I don't know if GAF is truly sincere about the positions its users tend to hold. I doubt they really believe in a lot of the bullcrap, especially since many times it overlaps and causes hypocrisy. However, they could be sincere about what they say. It just doesn't matter, because the way they go about it makes sincerely holding those views a joke.

You have to sort of examine the views separate from the performance of those views. The performance is distraction that causes a lot of problems.

[zomgee]

And. Here. We. Goooo!

"Right, so I'm being condemned for attending a comedy special -- that also happened to be the decade-in-waiting comeback tour for one of the best comedians of all time and my personal favorite -- and laughing? That makes me an enemy of the LGBT community now? Yeah, Dave used some outmoded terms that we try to educate folks about avoiding on here, and he went to some places that could justifiably offend or disappoint some people: white, black, gay, and trans too. The so-easy-Clayton-Bigsby-could-see-it takeaway, though, is that Dave clearly isn't promoting a message of hate or trying to tear down social progress or civil liberties for anyone. He's telling jokes. We can talk about the social impact or appropriateness of these jokes, sure, but your "disgust" at me for laughing at goddamned Dave Chappelle's comedy special is impressively misguided, absurd, and pathetic.

1) Go fuck yourself.

2) Leave.

Thanks for your feedback!"

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=232649232

And right after that:



You self-fellating chicken-shit. You can preach your high-horse bullshit and condemn everyone until you get scared you won't have a captive audience.

Way to take a stand, Braveheart.


Text resurrected by Lore:

I don't think that what you did - attending a comedy special or laughing at his joke - is transphobic. However, I do recall you posting in a YouTube comments section, that you asked of a trans woman (paraphrasing): "is that a dude in a dress?" I can chalk that up to a comment made out of ignorance, but I feel it would be beneficial to ask why you defaulted to that inclination as well.

[clothedmacuser]

Chapelle is tearing us apart!!@!!!

 

God bless you chapelle. 

[FatalT]

And. Here. We. Goooo!

"Right, so I'm being condemned for attending a comedy special -- that also happened to be the decade-in-waiting comeback tour for one of the best comedians of all time and my personal favorite -- and laughing? That makes me an enemy of the LGBT community now? Yeah, Dave used some outmoded terms that we try to educate folks about avoiding on here, and he went to some places that could justifiably offend or disappoint some people: white, black, gay, and trans too. The so-easy-Clayton-Bigsby-could-see-it takeaway, though, is that Dave clearly isn't promoting a message of hate or trying to tear down social progress or civil liberties for anyone. He's telling jokes. We can talk about the social impact or appropriateness of these jokes, sure, but your "disgust" at me for laughing at goddamned Dave Chappelle's comedy special is impressively misguided, absurd, and pathetic.

1) Go fuck yourself.

2) Leave.

Thanks for your feedback!"

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=232649232

And right after that:

(Image removed from quote.)

You self-fellating chicken-shit. You can preach your high-horse bullshit and condemn everyone until you get scared you won't have a captive audience.

Way to take a stand, Braveheart.


Text resurrected by Lore:

I don't think that what you did - attending a comedy special or laughing at his joke - is transphobic. However, I do recall you posting in a YouTube comments section, that you asked of a trans woman (paraphrasing): "is that a dude in a dress?" I can chalk that up to a comment made out of ignorance, but I feel it would be beneficial to ask why you defaulted to that inclination as well.

http://archive.is/aBOUm

Yeah, he's a chicken shit.

[nudemacusers]

Lol who cares tho

[zomgee]

Lol who cares tho

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[FatalT]

Lol who cares tho

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

What pronoun does zhe prefer to use?