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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8460 on: January 17, 2017, 01:35:55 AM »
at home? who cares


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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8461 on: January 17, 2017, 01:37:33 AM »
hve you even been outside of the us or your home state?

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8462 on: January 17, 2017, 01:44:23 AM »
hispanic/latino is such a cac wasp term btw just to make yourself feel superior

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8463 on: January 17, 2017, 01:44:25 AM »
Yes

Now go away, shit-for-brains, and if you have any more questions consult wikipedia

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8464 on: January 17, 2017, 01:47:46 AM »
wow so you crossed the state line? please tell me more insightfull stuff about the world im always curious for opinions of people that have been to at least two southern us states as its such a diverse enviroment


Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8465 on: January 17, 2017, 02:02:38 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1334697

This thread is such a fuckpile, jesus christ.  Also, Sega fans continuing to be the worst fans, special mention goes to ShinUltramanJ.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2017, 02:06:40 AM by Owl-faced Wizard »
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8466 on: January 17, 2017, 02:05:23 AM »
Im sure most europeans would trade our 40/50 million muslims for all your koreans, "hispanics" and 5th generation italians

you guys elected a president that is an islamophobe and you got only 3 million  :lol he wants to ban all muslims from coming in and you barely have any  :lol

what would happen in the us if you had 15 times that?
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8467 on: January 17, 2017, 02:14:59 AM »
curly was saying the us is more diverse then europe, which is not true

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8468 on: January 17, 2017, 02:27:06 AM »
I'm not sure if Platy is just trolling or REALLY sheltered with his "lets just show up and they will go away" bs. Some areas of Paris are VERY rough and hostile, especially to women.

A friend of mine was there with her husband, and while they were walking around, a group of dudes started insulting her and her husband because she was dressed "like a whore" and they started taunting the husband, talking about him "walking his dirty bitch", husband is of Tunisian descent, grew up in Paris and later moved to Quebec and thats where he met her. They pretty much almost ran away on foot because they feared for their safety.

This happened in 2005 or so.

I don't think I would agree for the city proper though there is a handful of pockets with the reputation of being rough in the upper north east quadrant, for either being a bit seedy or a junkie spot. There's parts in some suburbs that have bad records though, I used to work in a place where several colleagues were mugged and/or carjacked and a public furniture enthusiast was stabbed dead -apparently for the "suspicious" behavior of taking photos- in a nearby infamous neighborhood.

But as always with this type of stuff, your mileage may vary and nobody is safe from crossing paths with petty thugs even if it's more the exception than the rule.

Platy is being dumb as a bag of rocks, though, I guess we can all agree with that. Those are day-to-day issues and the result of people with fairly entrenched beliefs. Pulling some big stunt is good in a media sense but doesn't do anything to solve it.

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The source is France 24. Basically a French version of NPR.

To be perfectly precise : France 24 is a public-funded news channel mainly made for international consumption (translation in english and arab available).
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8469 on: January 17, 2017, 03:05:43 AM »
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I do think we should stop assuming everyone's a paid troll though. His whataboutism is stupid but he could just be deluded. Us assuming they're all Russian trolls kinda makes us look like conspiracy theorists :/

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228492475&postcount=13756

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http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1334772

OP post an article which is a small piece concluding with a sensible, reasonably skeptical of his own assumptions.
Threads instantly turns into "Fuck the plebs" :smug . Nevermind the author never actually speaks of outright disturbance but mostly of the dissonance between him and the rest of the audience (likewise, he's not making a definitive statement on the bigotry intent).

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Praise theaters that DGAF and will kick out any disturbances like this. What a bunch of pitiful people.

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Attention whores, the lot of 'em.

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What a bunch of assholes.

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nah as the poster below you mentioned, I have an Alamo Drafthouse in my area and the few times I've had disturbances during films (clacking on phone screens, no so quiet whispers or even couples making out)I have raised the order ticket and had them be given a warning and it feels oh so goddamn good. Now only if there were a way to do this in other theaters too.

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When I saw 12 Years a Slave in Compton, I laughed at the scenes where Sarah Paulson is cucking Fassbender.

We using that term now.....really?

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So even though I said this in regards to the fact you said 12 years a Slave Outta Compton and cuck unironically, you attribute this to Royalan? Aight, okay.

I saw 12 Years a Slave... in a movie theater... in Compton.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8470 on: January 17, 2017, 03:16:46 AM »
 

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VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8471 on: January 17, 2017, 03:42:09 AM »
NeoGAF is a more credible, more trustworthy and better news source than all of the large media operations put together.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=228467568#post228467568
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8472 on: January 17, 2017, 04:55:37 AM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=228525816

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228502220&postcount=449

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8473 on: January 17, 2017, 06:52:11 AM »
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True men don't play tutorials or read instructions

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8474 on: January 17, 2017, 07:28:04 AM »
:goldberg
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228529417&postcount=414
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There is a reason why Overwatch has so much porn and Battleborn could never ever have a significant amount.

Even beyond the popularity gap, Overwatch characters are sexy, Battleborn characters are not at all.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8475 on: January 17, 2017, 08:52:00 AM »
:goldberg
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228529417&postcount=414
Quote from: IAmAnAgnostic;228529417
There is a reason why Overwatch has so much porn and Battleborn could never ever have a significant amount.

Even beyond the popularity gap, Overwatch characters are sexy, Battleborn characters are not at all.



look at all this toxic masculinity

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8476 on: January 17, 2017, 08:54:18 AM »
Im sure most europeans would trade our 40/50 million muslims for all your koreans, "hispanics" and 5th generation italians

you guys elected a president that is an islamophobe and you got only 3 million  :lol he wants to ban all muslims from coming in and you barely have any  :lol

what would happen in the us if you had 15 times that?
Women would be banned from going outside unless dressed like a bee keeper and gays would be killed. This isn't much of a thought exercise.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8477 on: January 17, 2017, 09:01:16 AM »
Im sure most europeans would trade our 40/50 million muslims for all your koreans, "hispanics" and 5th generation italians

you guys elected a president that is an islamophobe and you got only 3 million  :lol he wants to ban all muslims from coming in and you barely have any  :lol

what would happen in the us if you had 15 times that?

First thing that would happen is more lawyers, as apparently


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-19/making-u-s-workplaces-safe-for-muslims-and-deterring-lawsuits

"While people who practice Islam make up only about 1 percent of the U.S. population, some 40 percent of religion-based workplace complaints filed with the U.S. Equal Opportunity Employment Commission last year were related to Muslims"

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8478 on: January 17, 2017, 09:28:53 AM »
Most Americans probably dont even know a muslim personally yet they are very scared of them fight wars and vote Trump (muslims are 1% of thr pop)

Then comment on how Europeans are biggoted (10% muslims)

then curly the world traveler wonders how a homogenous place like yurop is racist

look in your own back garden lad

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8479 on: January 17, 2017, 09:35:03 AM »
:goldberg
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228529417&postcount=414
Quote from: IAmAnAgnostic;228529417
There is a reason why Overwatch has so much porn and Battleborn could never ever have a significant amount.

Even beyond the popularity gap, Overwatch characters are sexy, Battleborn characters are not at all.

(Image removed from quote.)

look at all this toxic masculinity

Did Rob Liefeld do the character designs?  :lol
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8480 on: January 17, 2017, 10:00:32 AM »
GAF is a news SOURCE now?

Bwahaha

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8481 on: January 17, 2017, 10:07:18 AM »
GAF is a news SOURCE now?

Bwahaha

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uhhh help me out here

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8482 on: January 17, 2017, 10:07:47 AM »
How many fake gaming news items have been propagated on GAF?  Gotta be dozens.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8483 on: January 17, 2017, 10:08:10 AM »
Most Americans probably dont even know a muslim personally yet they are very scared of them fight wars and vote Trump (muslims are 1% of thr pop)

Then comment on how Europeans are biggoted (10% muslims)

then curly the world traveler wonders how a homogenous place like yurop is racist

look in your own back garden lad

Being fair, many people also voted for Trump because "Mexicans are taking our jobs". And following the back garden comment... well... lets say Trump comment that Mexico is taking unfair advantage of the US is historical incorrect and outright delusional.


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« Reply #8484 on: January 17, 2017, 10:20:53 AM »
Of course it's hilarious as well but were talking about muslims now, mexican fear is a whole other topic

Europe has gotten 1/1.5 million asylum seekers from syria last year .. and trump sats we shouldnt have admitted these people in need cuz "bad apples ansd isis infiltrants"

us took 10000 (canada 40000)

so tired of europeans being called racist by americans that think they are some diverse valhalla of acceptence while actually being way behind

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8485 on: January 17, 2017, 10:30:26 AM »
Lets not forget another thing diverse kings Americans voted for: taking down Obamacare

That will stop those pesky latinos and blacks (people that benefitted most) from having such luxuries as affordable care..

can you imagine someone in racist europe being elected saying they will take away health insurance from blacks or those ever hated muslims?

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8486 on: January 17, 2017, 10:47:05 AM »
Right, we get it

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8487 on: January 17, 2017, 11:06:47 AM »
People are gonna call me an asshole again but whatever. Any country that receives a large number of undereducated religious morons will eventually turn against that group especially if that group has some very primitive views on society because of that shitty religion. There isn't a single fucking country in the world that would tolerate for long groups like that, yes it's unfair to some middle eastern/North African immigrants that don't come from that backround of pure idiocy (either because of the region they're coming from or the economic status they used to have) but I can't fully blame the Europeans either. Europeans generally speaking don't dislike this group because of its nationality or color of the skin of the people within it, they dislike it because of its fucking stupid ideology.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8488 on: January 17, 2017, 11:46:00 AM »
Exactly, the US don't need no uneducated religious buffoons.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8489 on: January 17, 2017, 12:02:48 PM »
Bitch please. In America we STARTED the party with under-educated religious morons.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8490 on: January 17, 2017, 12:06:08 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228544600&postcount=10

Please refer to this thread that you cannot view

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8491 on: January 17, 2017, 12:31:26 PM »
That will stop those pesky latinos and blacks (people that benefitted most) from having such luxuries as affordable care..

Obamacare disproportionally benefited poor whites in red states though.

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Using census data, the Urban Institute recently calculated that from 2010 through 2015, more non-college-educated whites gained coverage than college-educated whites and minorities combined in all five of the key Rustbelt states that flipped from Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016: Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Whites without a college degree also represented a majority of those gaining coverage under the law in core Trump states like Indiana, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas, and Oklahoma.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8492 on: January 17, 2017, 12:52:02 PM »
That will stop those pesky latinos and blacks (people that benefitted most) from having such luxuries as affordable care..

Obamacare disproportionally benefited poor whites in red states though.

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Using census data, the Urban Institute recently calculated that from 2010 through 2015, more non-college-educated whites gained coverage than college-educated whites and minorities combined in all five of the key Rustbelt states that flipped from Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016: Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Whites without a college degree also represented a majority of those gaining coverage under the law in core Trump states like Indiana, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas, and Oklahoma.

They'd rather have jobs and pay for their insurance. Point being even those who have obamacare would rather not turn into perpetual parasites as their industry is outsourced to ThirdWorld(tm)

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8493 on: January 17, 2017, 01:06:37 PM »
Except employers pick up much less than they used to for employee plans. At a time where a plan would cost the employer $500, they would pay $400 and the employee would pay the other $100. Now the employer is paying $50 and the employee picks up the remaining $450.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8494 on: January 17, 2017, 01:09:34 PM »
They'd rather have jobs and pay for their insurance. Point being even those who have obamacare would rather not turn into perpetual parasites as their industry is outsourced to ThirdWorld(tm)

Too bad automation is rapidly making basic income inevitable and these fuckers are just slowing down progress on all fronts. :trumps

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8495 on: January 17, 2017, 01:28:10 PM »
That will stop those pesky latinos and blacks (people that benefitted most) from having such luxuries as affordable care..

Obamacare disproportionally benefited poor whites in red states though.

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Using census data, the Urban Institute recently calculated that from 2010 through 2015, more non-college-educated whites gained coverage than college-educated whites and minorities combined in all five of the key Rustbelt states that flipped from Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016: Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Whites without a college degree also represented a majority of those gaining coverage under the law in core Trump states like Indiana, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas, and Oklahoma.

isnt that in total numbers not %?

looked it up and it seems so

http://kff.org/disparities-policy/issue-brief/health-coverage-by-race-and-ethnicity-examining-changes-under-the-aca-and-the-remaining-uninsured/

http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2016.303155?journalCode=ajph
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8496 on: January 17, 2017, 01:33:55 PM »
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The first woman attempted to do the same, at which point von Keyserling “reached in from behind to place his hand between her legs and pinch her in the groin area,” according to the police arrest warrant.

Keeblore sweatin'

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8497 on: January 17, 2017, 01:45:43 PM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=228539707

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Somehow I feel that if this encounter with Trump and Prostitute in Russia is true, these 2 poor women are already dead.

GAF right now :

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8498 on: January 17, 2017, 01:54:09 PM »
I live in an Indiana city of less than 50K and there are 3 neighborhoods where there are no English speaking businesses. We don't even have a large Hispanic population. That's pretty normal all around the country, especially in real cities. Have you never heard of Korea/China Towns, or Little Italy districts, Lager?

That comparison doesn't make much sense. Italians and Hispanics are Christian Europeans. That's not really multi-culturalism, they're ultimately part of the same culture and share the same values even if they speak a different language or have slightly darker skin. That's something we're quite used to in Europe, with dozens of countries and languages and free movement. We also have districts and towns full of Romanians and Poles in Germany, but again: Christian Europeans. And funnily enough, in most cases, you can only tell by the names, because they mostly grew up and went to school here and speak German, in most cases exclusively. Asians on the other hand are from a different cultural sphere, but they're usually secular, share many of our values and are quite compatible and willing to integrate. Nobody minds those, either. We have quite a few Asian (mostly Vietnamese) neighborhoods and businesses in Eastern Germany and they cause no issues.

Things only become problematic when you have large groups of people from a completely different culture with different values who don't want to play by your rules, let alone integrate.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8499 on: January 17, 2017, 02:20:35 PM »
They should change the title of the thread about women being harassed in France. I'd suggest something along the lines of 'oh look, SmokyDave was absolutely correct about the left's failure to tackle the problem of unfettered immigration by members of a particular regressive culture leading to a surge of support for the right / far right'.

Not sure if it's under the character limit though. It's a shame because it would apply to more than a few threads in recent times.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8500 on: January 17, 2017, 02:42:47 PM »
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When I saw 12 Years a Slave in Compton, I laughed at the scenes where Sarah Paulson is cucking Fassbender.

We using that term now.....really?

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So even though I said this in regards to the fact you said 12 years a Slave Outta Compton and cuck unironically, you attribute this to Royalan? Aight, okay.

I saw 12 Years a Slave... in a movie theater... in Compton.

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No, really that didn't seem to be your intention. Especially coupled with the fact again, you actually used the word cuck and talked about laughing while watching Precious, I'm sorry if I don't believe yoy

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8501 on: January 17, 2017, 02:43:57 PM »
They should change the title of the thread about women being harassed in France. I'd suggest something along the lines of 'oh look, SmokyDave was absolutely correct about the left's failure to tackle the problem of unfettered immigration by members of a particular regressive culture leading to a surge of support for the right / far right'.

Not sure if it's under the character limit though. It's a shame because it would apply to more than a few threads in recent times.

Thank you for that, Prof. SmokyDave, PhD. in Islamist Extremism. The results of your careful policy study and well-thought conclusion on this pressing issue of our time has opened my eyes. Truly, all of those other experts disagreeing with your opinion have clearly not been to such a prestigious institution as the University of What the Man at the Pub Told Me, and I can therefore feel comfortable in ignoring them.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8502 on: January 17, 2017, 02:53:34 PM »
If the Negro hadn't gotten themselves enslaved we wouldn't have a radical popular vote loser like Lincoln in the White House trampling the Constitution and this war with over half a million Americans dead. :snob

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8503 on: January 17, 2017, 02:54:53 PM »
My pleasure chaps. Unfortunately I don't get much time to chat shit on the net any more, so I'll just leave you this ancient post to help you understand global changes over the next decade:

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=33753917

Just copy and paste that bad boy and you'll be well away.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8504 on: January 17, 2017, 02:59:13 PM »
Oh so racism? Thank you for the insight.
Perfect reply. Seriously.

FStop7

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8505 on: January 17, 2017, 03:08:01 PM »
Dave shouldn't you be on a corner somewhere in Manchester, courageously roaring on about how all the Pakis are being shipped home soon?

SmokyDave

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8506 on: January 17, 2017, 03:20:12 PM »
Dave shouldn't you be on a corner somewhere in Manchester, courageously roaring on about how all the Pakis are being shipped home soon?
I don't think you understand how broad the political spectrum is in real life. The caricature you describe would probably call me a 'cuck sjw' given most of my beliefs. I'm left wing and voted 'remain', you moomin. My motivation in ranting about uncontrolled immigration (before it was too late), was to PREVENT the rise of the far right, and the empowering of the caricature you described.

Still, must be much easier to understand the world when you can put everyone into a neat little box with a pile of labels attached. I can see the appeal.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8507 on: January 17, 2017, 03:41:11 PM »
GAF could make a "Person we banned ended up right" megathread and manage to keep it continually updated.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8508 on: January 17, 2017, 03:48:31 PM »
Dave is a xenophobic brexiteer, I can confirm. He kept bullying me on GAF, just because I'm a french expat living in the UK  :fbm

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8509 on: January 17, 2017, 03:56:28 PM »
show us on the doll where Dave trolled you.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8510 on: January 17, 2017, 03:57:56 PM »
I have two "friends" with similar views as Smoky's.

They ended up voting for Trump.  :doge

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8511 on: January 17, 2017, 04:08:10 PM »
They should change the title of the thread about women being harassed in France. I'd suggest something along the lines of 'oh look, SmokyDave was absolutely correct about the left's failure to tackle the problem of unfettered immigration by members of a particular regressive culture leading to a surge of support for the right / far right'.

Not sure if it's under the character limit though. It's a shame because it would apply to more than a few threads in recent times.

Struggled to even reach 6 pages before some dickhead closed it.

The left is gonna receive the mother of all arse-kickings for their arrogance, ceaseless character attacks and dismissive attitude.


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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8512 on: January 17, 2017, 04:16:31 PM »

Struggled to even reach 6 pages before some dickhead closed it.

The left is gonna receive the mother of all arse-kickings for their arrogance, ceaseless character attacks and dismissive attitude.

Probably. The problem is that those replacing them aren't necessarily any better. Would have been a good idea to properly discuss this shit and try to reach a compromise like adults before this train started to derail.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8513 on: January 17, 2017, 04:40:08 PM »
The caricature you describe would probably call me a 'cuck sjw' given most of my beliefs. I'm left wing and voted 'remain', you moomin. My motivation in ranting about uncontrolled immigration (before it was too late), was to PREVENT the rise of the far right, and the empowering of the caricature you described.
Here's where the argument is confusing to some of us maybe. The Yuropean "far-right" is for the most part "left-wing" except for allowing certain ethnicities access to the nation state and opposing "political correctness." On the continent they're almost universally in favor of the existing welfare state, claim opposition to capitalism and free trade, many of them want to the use the "savings" to increase benefits for people of the proper ethnicity, etc. So the points of disagreement seem to be very few, especially if you're in agreement with them on other ethnicities/cultures being negative influences on the "proper" culture.

So you can see how some get the wrong impression and view your diagnosis and prescription as similar to these groups you claim to oppose.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8514 on: January 17, 2017, 04:48:45 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1335035

come on gaf gimmie da goods already

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8515 on: January 17, 2017, 04:50:34 PM »
aww yeah here we go
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For everyone who thinks this is a good thing, it's really not. Manning didn't give this stuff to Wikileaks out of altruism or a sense of doing the right thing. Manning's temper was notorious; she once flipped a table when being counseled about poor timekeeping practices. I agree that potential war crimes and criminal acts committed by our military need to be brought to light. But what she passed included things like diplomatic cables and protected names which put lives in jeopardy and probably ended up getting people killed. This wasn't an oversight: she chose to include these things.

There are questions about her mental health, and that's fine. But this was a calculated act committed by a person who knew they were breaking the law. The LAW. I wanna repeat that. What she did put a lot of lives in jeopardy. This was a crime, and it absolutely sends the wrong message to people who are tempted to do the same thing.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8516 on: January 17, 2017, 04:52:39 PM »
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Callling Manning a whistleblower is a joke and a complete disservice to actual whistleblowers. Sharing 700,000 unedited documents with an organization that you allegedly "knew little about" is hardly whistleblowing. That's treason of the highest order and should have been served as such.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8517 on: January 17, 2017, 04:55:12 PM »
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She literally sold out American info to its leading geopolitical rival. Why should anyone be happy that she isn't facing her punishment?
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I agree with you that Obama probably isn't doing this out of kindness and more to look good, but man, what do you think should have been done with her after the shit she pulled? A light slap on the wrist for basically handing huge swaths of info to a sketchy group that turned out to be working for a huge enemy of ours?
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And it legitimized Wikileaks and put it on the map. How did that turn out?
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One of the first times I have truly been disappointed with the president.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8518 on: January 17, 2017, 05:05:47 PM »
The caricature you describe would probably call me a 'cuck sjw' given most of my beliefs. I'm left wing and voted 'remain', you moomin. My motivation in ranting about uncontrolled immigration (before it was too late), was to PREVENT the rise of the far right, and the empowering of the caricature you described.
Here's where the argument is confusing to some of us maybe. The Yuropean "far-right" is for the most part "left-wing" except for allowing certain ethnicities access to the nation state and opposing "political correctness." On the continent they're almost universally in favor of the existing welfare state, claim opposition to capitalism and free trade, many of them want the use the "savings" to increase benefits for people of the proper ethnicity, etc. So the points of disagreement seem to be very few, especially if you're in agreement with them on other ethnicities/cultures being negative influences on the "proper" culture.

So you can see how some get the wrong impression and view your diagnosis and proscription as similar to these groups you claim to oppose.

That's why the "right vs. left" classification is nonsense. The political spectrum is more complicated than that. You generally have at least three scales to consider: "Progressive vs. conservative", "liberal vs. authoritarian" and "socialist vs. capitalist". A huge part of the "left" tends to be not just progressive and socialst, but also authoritarian. To make things even more confusing, many/ most self-proclaimed US "liberals" are actually authoritarian as well, completely misusing the term.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8519 on: January 17, 2017, 05:05:53 PM »
I live in an Indiana city of less than 50K and there are 3 neighborhoods where there are no English speaking businesses. We don't even have a large Hispanic population. That's pretty normal all around the country, especially in real cities. Have you never heard of Korea/China Towns, or Little Italy districts, Lager?

That comparison doesn't make much sense. Italians and Hispanics are white Christian Europeans. That's not really multi-culturalism, they're ultimately part of the same culture and share the same values even if they speak a different language or have slightly darker skin. That's something we're quite used to in Europe, with dozens of countries and languages and free movement. We also have districts and towns full of Romanians and Poles in Germany, but again: White Christian Europeans. And funnily enough, in most cases, you can only tell by the names, because they mostly grew up and went to school here and speak German, in most cases exclusively. Asians on the other hand are from a different cultural sphere, but they're usually secular, share many of our values and are quite compatible and willing to integrate. Nobody minds those, either. We have quite a few Asian (mostly Vietnamese) neighborhoods and businesses in Eastern Germany and they cause no issues.

Things only become problematic when you have large groups of people from a completely different culture with different values who don't want to play by your rules, let alone integrate.

"No multiculturalism because they are white christian Europeans".

Hahaha... Dude... European history was not as simple as that. Also, free movement some centuries before was not exactly as you are currently experiencing.