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Himu

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1800 on: October 24, 2016, 01:41:12 AM »
The only reason I have boiled your argument down in an oversimplification is because honestly I'm not in the mood to argue. If you wanted to argue this you would have done so outside of your safe space. You coming off like someone who laughs at a joke a minute later. If you really had that much to say you would have done it in where I can rebut openly. Instead, you making arguments after the fact. Too bad, too sad, bb.
Real talk, I just devoted some thousand words responding to you and you aren't going to address them "because you aren't in the mood to talk."

 Also trying to call me out as if my thread is this safe space?

 You don't even log in, you just stay covertly reading the thread until someone offhandedly invokes your name despite thinking this thread is lower than you or some shit.

 Then comes the ad hominem and talking about how I'm putting this in a place you can't rebut and that I make my arguments after the fact, despite posting direct responses to your posts as soon as you post them.

 Let's be real Himuro, you could give a damn if you were in a "mood to argue". If you really would've wanted to responded, you would respond to this shit sometime tomorrow or something. This is a thread, not a an IRC chat after all, come back to it in a year if you need to do so.

 Anyways, you'll get your platform to rebut. Go into your PM circle with your buddies on GAF and talk shit about me. Maybe groupthink an actual response to my posts while you're at it.

Jesus you're mad. Haha.

You spent thousands of words writing to me out of nowhere. Like, seriously bro. I appreciate the effort, but you want dialogue all of a sudden? Caught me off guard. I'll humor you and give you a legit reply tomorrow. I didn't mean to come off as stand off-ish. I legit didn't want to argue the topic in a meaningful way anymore and as far as I knew, the bore would be terrible for an actual debate on this. But since you put effort and care into it. I'll take you seriously and reply in pm. I just  got off work so I ain't got no time for that mess right now.

I mean, this is ignoring the fact that earlier you flat out admitted that you don't know who I am. I don't know who you are either. So some guy I don't even know, typing all that, out of nowhere, is just weird as fuck to me. I don't know your intentions or anything. How am I supposed to know you're serious when usually you post snipes and wise ass posts towards gaffers? How was I supposed to know it wouldn't be a waste of my time?
« Last Edit: October 24, 2016, 02:03:10 AM by Queen of Ice »
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mormapope

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1801 on: October 24, 2016, 02:45:14 AM »
With neogaf its usually less about racial talk and more about white people oozing white guilt on a videogame forum. Which is fine, I guess? I've stopped going to off topic when it became a Trump and Hillary news headquarter.

With all these new videogame consoles and revisions coming out, seems like gaming side is looking ripe for the nice and steamy shitposting.

Microsoft is taking North America back and banging out decent exclusives, Sony is getting lazy and arrogant again, Nintendo is making weird shit that will probably flop.

:rejoice

« Last Edit: October 24, 2016, 02:50:37 AM by mormapope »
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Nola

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1802 on: October 24, 2016, 03:09:29 AM »
I don't know who you are either. So some guy I don't even know, typing all that, out of nowhere, is just weird as fuck to me. I don't know your intentions or anything. How am I supposed to know you're serious when usually you post snipes and wise ass posts towards gaffers? How was I supposed to know it wouldn't be a waste of my time?
I mean we are on a forum and in a thread that is built upon meta commentary of another forum lol....Not sure any of us(here or on GAF) can say with a straight face our time is that precious or our purpose that meaningful. :idont


Frankly if someone wants to deviate for a few hours and have a thought provoking debate about the nature of racism, how it manifests itself and how best to deal with it, that might actually be an interesting diversion. Especially if it can remain free of the typical GAF nonsense.



Worse case scenario The Bore :snob 's end up getting all  :umad and shit because our safe space of GAF hate-posting gets disrupted. Though that might actually be rather  :delicious

Raist

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1803 on: October 24, 2016, 03:12:20 AM »
So are al white people racist?

Maybe you can clarify outside of your gaf safe space

Yes

clothedmacuser

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1804 on: October 24, 2016, 03:18:11 AM »
You're ok 213372bu.  I'm here to just bring up the shit NeoGAF perpetuates that will cause the forum die.  That you discussed real world shit shouldn't be a issue.
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Himu

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1805 on: October 24, 2016, 03:36:11 AM »
So are al white people racist?

Maybe you can clarify outside of your gaf safe space

Yeah.
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agrajag

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1806 on: October 24, 2016, 03:41:30 AM »
Cacs cacs triggered racist cacs everywhere u mad bro  :umad

Nola

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1807 on: October 24, 2016, 04:46:35 AM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=221265051

Be careful Cindi, suspected bish immunity or not, you're trying to have a reasonable conversation with someone that has spent the last 12 hours finding angles to shut down every poster that has tried to articulate a case for why this behavior may not be above reproach. Banning them the moment he finds an opening like mully.

More power to you if you jar something of value loose from bish, but if he was looking to have an elevated conversation he probably could of just quoted the second part of that posters response and done just that. Responded to cyan earlier(or even yourself). The fact he is reaching exclusively for the lowest hanging fruit of otherwise solid posts, that all just happen to share the same underlying narrative of questioning these tactics or assumptions, in ways that aren't inviting a dialogue, is telling.... Guy's crusading, not conversating.



VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1808 on: October 24, 2016, 05:05:13 AM »
Diverting a second from racism, it's that time of the gen for Ntards

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1298994

What do you mean, it had great support !

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=221272278

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I feel more betrayed by the millions of "gamers" who intentionally skipped out on gems such as Bayo 2, Hyrule Warriors, Monster Hunter, Wonderful 101, Smash, MK8, Mario Maker, Xenoblade, etc.

:japancry
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Rufus

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1809 on: October 24, 2016, 05:07:10 AM »
Sidenote but I always thought 'doxxing' meant putting out people's personal info eg home address phone number etc. Since when is exposing dumb shit ppl say on a public facebook page 'doxxing'?
I was confused about that too. The OP chose his words poorly and apparently always meant to shame people who using publically racist, without any obfuscating layers.

I should have read the entire thread, I guess. :doge
« Last Edit: October 24, 2016, 05:14:20 AM by Rufus »

Trent Dole

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1810 on: October 24, 2016, 05:09:54 AM »
Quote from:  Lowmelody
This thread is example #832387 of how white moderates pose a greater threat to equality than the overt and hardcore racists themselves. How are we still treading water on this shit?

Quote from: norm9
What if it isn't a white person saying/posting these racist things?

 :lol Excuse me? Only white people are capable of racism.  :lol
If you say/think this sincerely NOTHING you have to say regarding race relations is worthy of consideration. :pacspit
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VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1811 on: October 24, 2016, 05:20:53 AM »
For all the shit we give to videogame spergs, music stans are probably the WOAT by a healthy margin. Navel gazing and pretentious minutia all around ("It's not Nu Metal, but Nu Retro Metal :smug ").
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Take My Breh Away

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1812 on: October 24, 2016, 05:56:39 AM »
So are al white people racist?

Maybe you can clarify outside of your gaf safe space

You seem rather upset

anyway, this sucks
look at this thread instead
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1298919
glorious gamefaq system warrior is system warrioring

He got bodied so hard when someone brought up he posted the same thing on Gamefaqs System Wars board. Then modbot bailed him out by locking the thread.

He's evilr part two: More gamefaqs edition

https://twitter.com/Str0ngBlackVine

:neogaf :neogaf :neogaf

Bish, come get your boy.

nudemacusers

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1813 on: October 24, 2016, 09:10:39 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1299075

Wherein nerds face the painful realization that the 'culture' they held onto like a precious flower and wear like a badge of honor is superficial by design and based almost entirely around buying shit.
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archie4208

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1814 on: October 24, 2016, 09:15:04 AM »
So are al white people racist?

Maybe you can clarify outside of your gaf safe space

You seem rather upset

anyway, this sucks
look at this thread instead
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1298919
glorious gamefaq system warrior is system warrioring

He got bodied so hard when someone brought up he posted the same thing on Gamefaqs System Wars board. Then modbot bailed him out by locking the thread.

He's evilr part two: More gamefaqs edition

https://twitter.com/Str0ngBlackVine

:neogaf :neogaf :neogaf

Bish, come get your boy.

You'll never be this emotionally invested in a company.  :fbm

VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1815 on: October 24, 2016, 09:19:29 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1299075

Wherein nerds face the painful realization that the 'culture' they held onto like a precious flower and wear like a badge of honor is superficial by design and based almost entirely around buying shit.

:delicious
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1816 on: October 24, 2016, 09:32:46 AM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=221285112

Tegra X1 shits on a 13 year old console, take that MS and Sony

thisismyusername

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1817 on: October 24, 2016, 09:33:35 AM »
https://images.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1461589580ra/18884856.gif

Shhh bb, it's k. I read it, and I understood it completely because it's that level of shit that makes me leery about the Black Community as I said in the past. Broad strokes, but if Himu is going to do the same thing with whites, why should I give the benefit of the doubt to blacks?

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(Benefit of the doubt) Which I do. Because I'm not a dumbass.
[close]

That said, "all Whites are racist" misses the point when talking about individual racism or having (non-existent/pipe dream) discussions on actual racism.

 For example when we see stuff like this:
Quote from: Himuro
Until then you are a typical white person.
This implies that all White people are, by standard, just one form of "racist" and all belong to a sort of "Trump" hivemind. It is problematic to examine societies under the scope of binary racism checks as it is intellectually false and leads to a roadblock in discussion.

 Racism comes in levels and is individually examined that way, calling it binary is counter-productive to actually talking about racism. White people don't share a norm where everyone is a covert Confederate that is voting Trump. It doesn't work that way, and to say otherwise both lacks understanding and makes the other side just ignore your thoughts



Supposedly mods said that using coon, house n-word, and uncle tom were banned words.  Maybe if someone snitches him out to a mod he will be banned like they warned.   

He's using it to reference /r/coontown, which is valid.</backseatmodding>

The quoted mod post, though? Yeah, that won't fly.

This thread is wholly undeserving of the effort that 213372bu has put into his posts recently.

For real. :( :'(

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1818 on: October 24, 2016, 09:34:27 AM »
https://twitter.com/Str0ngBlackVine

:neogaf :neogaf :neogaf

Bish, come get your boy.
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StrongBlackVine ‏@Str0ngBlackVine  Oct 20
All you @Nintendo fans right now: Did you forget the Wii U? Just get a #PS4 already and play #Bloodborne AKA what #Zelda should be.

 StrongBlackVine ‏@Str0ngBlackVine  Oct 20
Nintendo #Switch is a gimmick. It'll pull people away from #Xbox but I don't see people trading in their #PS4 for this. #SonyAlwaysWins

 StrongBlackVine ‏@Str0ngBlackVine  Oct 19
Misleading advertisement. Typical Microsoft spin and the idiots on NeoGAF eat it up.
:miyamoto

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1819 on: October 24, 2016, 09:46:15 AM »
I'm a little slow but it dawned on me today.  I've always assumed off-topic would go back to pre-April 2015 levels of insanity after the election but it is becoming more and more clear that this is the new normal.  The Trump stories will eventually fade but the "The stakes are too high/this isn't the time to criticize" is going to be extended to the point where it becomes the NeoGAF equivalent to the Patriot Act USA Freedom Act.  Any criticism of Hillary will be seen as support of the alt right, indefinitely
The response to everything will be "what, you would prefer Trump?" and "Vote Democratic in the midterms."

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1820 on: October 24, 2016, 09:50:34 AM »
Like, why would you even speculate about future hypothetical "valid" (something unlikely, and probably widely debunked like all current) criticism of a President Hillary unless you were using it as cover for your current alt-right support of Trump?

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1821 on: October 24, 2016, 09:56:31 AM »
I suppose you could be a butthurt Bernie Bro just raging at women because one put you in your place for the first time in your life.

Sorry, but the rest of us have to do the hard work of getting our hands filthy casting a ballot so you jobless cac layabouts can keep your trust funds and whine because nobody's perfect and you aren't getting your pony.

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1822 on: October 24, 2016, 10:25:03 AM »
We'll look back on this all and laugh when I get PoliGAF sent to the camps for betraying The Party. :doge

I'll frame some of them as having watched this Alt Right Opposition manifesto:

bork

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1823 on: October 24, 2016, 10:34:14 AM »
https://twitter.com/Str0ngBlackVine

:neogaf :neogaf :neogaf

Bish, come get your boy.
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StrongBlackVine ‏@Str0ngBlackVine  Oct 20
All you @Nintendo fans right now: Did you forget the Wii U? Just get a #PS4 already and play #Bloodborne AKA what #Zelda should be.

 StrongBlackVine ‏@Str0ngBlackVine  Oct 20
Nintendo #Switch is a gimmick. It'll pull people away from #Xbox but I don't see people trading in their #PS4 for this. #SonyAlwaysWins

 StrongBlackVine ‏@Str0ngBlackVine  Oct 19
Misleading advertisement. Typical Microsoft spin and the idiots on NeoGAF eat it up.
:miyamoto

#SonyAlwaysWins
:drake

#NerdsActuallyCaringAboutThisDumbShit
:snore
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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1824 on: October 24, 2016, 10:35:54 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1299075

Wherein nerds face the painful realization that the 'culture' they held onto like a precious flower and wear like a badge of honor is superficial by design and based almost entirely around buying shit.
That guy not realizing that nerd culture has always been a consumer/producer relationship is kind of pathetic. In the pitiful way. Nerd shit has always had the most amount of random knick knacks and high priced "collectibles" that are completely valueless a year later. It was nerds that started conventions where they'd pay to have their favorite actors/writers scribble their name on a picture. How could you go your whole life thinking you were a part of nerd culture and not realize that it's as bad or worse than any other niche community when it comes to ruthless capitalism? Did this guy think those $50 D&D boards were made out of the pureness of art?
I was reading Coates' Between the World and Me last week and these three pages are pretty appropriate for this thread:
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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1825 on: October 24, 2016, 10:37:34 AM »
Quote from: Lime
which in turn makes me think that the next Star Wars film or the next Mass Effect game isn't so much about saying anything meaningful, but about making money.
:stahp

Quote from: Lime
Don't be confused, I appreciate how much some of these universes have become popular and I like the conversations around them and the topics that they spawn

but could I have this without 1:1 replicas of Luke Cage's hoodie, Jessica Jones' whiskey glass, and Black Panther's underwear?
:dolezal

Dennis

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1826 on: October 24, 2016, 10:42:59 AM »
Lime is a troll.

Hardcore PC gamer from way back.

And this is what he/she posts these days?

Come on. Troll.

Mr. Nobody

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1827 on: October 24, 2016, 10:45:53 AM »
So are al white people racist?

Maybe you can clarify outside of your gaf safe space

You seem rather upset

anyway, this sucks
look at this thread instead
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1298919
glorious gamefaq system warrior is system warrioring

He got bodied so hard when someone brought up he posted the same thing on Gamefaqs System Wars board. Then modbot bailed him out by locking the thread.

He's evilr part two: More gamefaqs edition

https://twitter.com/Str0ngBlackVine

:neogaf :neogaf :neogaf

Bish, come get your boy.

You'll never be this emotionally invested in a company.  :fbm

Bless up :rejoice

agrajag

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1828 on: October 24, 2016, 10:46:01 AM »
We'll look back on this all and laugh when I get PoliGAF sent to the camps for betraying The Party. :doge

I'll frame some of them as having watched this Alt Right Opposition manifesto:


Watchu talking about benji, if Ethan of H3H3 Productions was any more alt-right he'd be Donald Trump.

Mr. Nobody

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1829 on: October 24, 2016, 11:04:56 AM »
https://images.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1461589580ra/18884856.gif

Shhh bb, it's k. I read it, and I understood it completely because it's that level of shit that makes me leery about the Black Community as I said in the past. Broad strokes, but if Himu is going to do the same thing with whites, why should I give the benefit of the doubt to blacks?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(Benefit of the doubt) Which I do. Because I'm not a dumbass.
[close]

That said, "all Whites are racist" misses the point when talking about individual racism or having (non-existent/pipe dream) discussions on actual racism.

 For example when we see stuff like this:
Quote from: Himuro
Until then you are a typical white person.
This implies that all White people are, by standard, just one form of "racist" and all belong to a sort of "Trump" hivemind. It is problematic to examine societies under the scope of binary racism checks as it is intellectually false and leads to a roadblock in discussion.

 Racism comes in levels and is individually examined that way, calling it binary is counter-productive to actually talking about racism. White people don't share a norm where everyone is a covert Confederate that is voting Trump. It doesn't work that way, and to say otherwise both lacks understanding and makes the other side just ignore your thoughts

(Image removed from quote.)

Supposedly mods said that using coon, house n-word, and uncle tom were banned words.  Maybe if someone snitches him out to a mod he will be banned like they warned.   

He's using it to reference /r/coontown, which is valid.</backseatmodding>

The quoted mod post, though? Yeah, that won't fly.

This thread is wholly undeserving of the effort that 213372bu has put into his posts recently.

For real. :( :'(

The cipher wouldn't be complete without username's quarterly "those n!ggers are being racist again!" post  :lawd

Be leery of an entire race and wonder why they don't care for you brehs  :doge

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1830 on: October 24, 2016, 11:23:59 AM »
Be leery of an entire race and wonder why they don't care for you brehs  :doge
Wonder? I know it's because they're the real racists.

Dennis

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1831 on: October 24, 2016, 11:39:34 AM »
Some of my best friends are white and some, I imagine, are good people.

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1832 on: October 24, 2016, 11:46:33 AM »
And after you've killed them all.

I say then you go to the god damn grave, and dig em up, and then kill em a-god-damn-gain because they didn't die hard enough.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1833 on: October 24, 2016, 12:00:29 PM »
That guy not realizing that nerd culture has always been a consumer/producer relationship is kind of pathetic. In the pitiful way. Nerd shit has always had the most amount of random knick knacks and high priced "collectibles" that are completely valueless a year later. It was nerds that started conventions where they'd pay to have their favorite actors/writers scribble their name on a picture. How could you go your whole life thinking you were a part of nerd culture and not realize that it's as bad or worse than any other niche community when it comes to ruthless capitalism? Did this guy think those $50 D&D boards were made out of the pureness of art?

Ehh, nerd culture also has/had a lot of DIY as well - fan conventions (Otakon where they even let ME host a panel), zines, cosplay, open source software, indie gaming, fansubs. There's a large community aspect to it, although with the increased mainstream acceptance of it, that's been diminished nowadays unfortunately. But anyways, it's not complete ruthless capitalism! Not that it matters to me, if someone wants to spend thousands of dollars on a lifesized Boba Fett statue, that's their prerogative. I don't give a shit and I spend plenty of money on geeky pursuits too.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1834 on: October 24, 2016, 12:27:19 PM »
Nerd shit became popular once businesses figured out that these dorks got paid well from their tech jobs and these people weren't the type to go on vacations or impress girls (flashy cars, nice condos, designer clothes, etc.) and instead found that these people perpetually pretend to be 10 years old.  Nerd culture was born.
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Rman

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1835 on: October 24, 2016, 12:28:52 PM »
Lol at Lime. 

Complaining about capitalism yet forgetting that capitalism gave him his precious games.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1836 on: October 24, 2016, 12:30:15 PM »
People spend stuff on the things they like. Sports jerseys, art, going to concerts, traveling, building things, BDSM dungeons
I mean we gonna pretend nerds are the only people who spend stupid money on things they like now?   :idont
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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1837 on: October 24, 2016, 12:35:46 PM »
None of those things are about saying something meaningful like Star Wars and Mass Effect used to be before capitalism got ahold of them.

VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1838 on: October 24, 2016, 12:42:32 PM »
That guy not realizing that nerd culture has always been a consumer/producer relationship is kind of pathetic. In the pitiful way. Nerd shit has always had the most amount of random knick knacks and high priced "collectibles" that are completely valueless a year later. It was nerds that started conventions where they'd pay to have their favorite actors/writers scribble their name on a picture. How could you go your whole life thinking you were a part of nerd culture and not realize that it's as bad or worse than any other niche community when it comes to ruthless capitalism? Did this guy think those $50 D&D boards were made out of the pureness of art?

Ehh, nerd culture also has/had a lot of DIY as well - fan conventions (Otakon where they even let ME host a panel), zines, cosplay, open source software, indie gaming, fansubs. There's a large community aspect to it, although with the increased mainstream acceptance of it, that's been diminished nowadays unfortunately. But anyways, it's not complete ruthless capitalism! Not that it matters to me, if someone wants to spend thousands of dollars on a lifesized Boba Fett statue, that's their prerogative. I don't give a shit and I spend plenty of money on geeky pursuits too.

Some geek ideologues (for lack of a better word) have so much espoused the delusion of being modern day monks underdogs preserving the "real" popular culture of the silent majority against the monopoly held by boring snobby intellectual elites that it's not too surprising to see some cognitive dissonance. "Geek culture" is more often than not the product of postwar mass production from the entertainment industry. It's not just that (the paradox of reconciling artistic goals with commercial ones is nothing new and can be found in most pieces of art), the works themselves can have value & depth and the fans can be genuine. But at the end of the day, it's more often than not as mainstream and commercial as it gets.
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Jansen

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1839 on: October 24, 2016, 01:12:34 PM »
Lol at Lime. 

Complaining about capitalism yet forgetting that capitalism gave him his precious games.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1253826

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Finally, the US suffers from
The biggest frequency of non-ratified international agreements
The lowest allocation to international development assistance and emergency help
The biggest international seller of arms and weaponry
The lowest score of student results in mathematics
The highest drop out rate in high school (except for Spain)
The highest frequency of homicides
The highest amount of imprisoned citizens both generally and per citizen

Then, the general things off the top of my head:

    Staging coups in Iran, Indonesia, Cuba, DRC, Chile, Afghanistan, Nicaragua
    Vietnam
    Iraq
    Afghanistan
    Crazy gun laws that won't even get changed in the face of children being murdered
    Climate change denial despite the country being the biggest GHG emitter per capita
    Rampant consumerism & commercialism of everything
    Taking away the vote from convicted felons (seriously what the fuck?)
    A large part of the country condones torture
    The death penalty
    The prison industrial complex
    Private healthcare
    Pollution
    Hating their poor as if it is their own fault for being in the situation they are in
    High exploitation of natural resources
    White supremacy and its complete oppression of Black citizens
    Genocide of Native Americans,
    Chattel slavery,
    Housing laws and segregation
    Guantamo
    Severe hypocrisy of ideals (freedom, justice, liberty, etc.)
    Supporting Israel
    Using its foreign aid to Uganda to promote evangelical Christian morals to sex (abstaining), thus throwing the country back in its efforts to curb HIV.
    Drone strikes (imagine how the US would react if another country were flying drones of its country and extrajudicially killing its citizens)
    No due process for non-Americans
    Celebrating violence and murder (see the hypocritical public reaction to the killing of bin Laden)
    Marshall plan impeding democracy by suppressing communists for running
    Shitty TV with billions of commercials every five minutes
    Militarized police force
    Air conditioners for everyone, everywhere
    Cars for everyone
    Shitty collective infrastructure
    In this so-called Land of the Free you can't even drink in public
    Inherent aversion to socialism and left-wing politics. The left is non-existent in the US.
    Broken two-party political system (it's certainly not a representative democracy)
    Christian right-winged nuts with political and economic power
    Boot straps rhetoric
    The American Dream is childishly naive and completely overlooks social environmental factors
    Supporting Saudi Arabia
    Spending an insane amount of money on their military
    Fighting against the right to abortion
    NSA and surveying everyone, especially non-Americans

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  Air conditioners for everyone, everywhere

i can't believe anyone would take lime seriously  :lol

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1840 on: October 24, 2016, 01:20:38 PM »
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The American Dream is childishly naive and completely overlooks social environmental factors
Shitty TV with billions of commercials every five minutes
Air conditioners for everyone, everywhere
Cars for everyone
In this so-called Land of the Free you can't even drink in public
:usacry

Averon

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1841 on: October 24, 2016, 01:25:36 PM »
Lime trolls the hell out of NeoGAF through the angle of social justice, which means his(her?) trolling goes unimpeded, and is even cheered by most of NeoGAF.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1842 on: October 24, 2016, 01:29:53 PM »
None of those things are about saying something meaningful like Star Wars and Mass Effect used to be before capitalism got ahold of them.

That is why I am saying Lime is an obvious troll.

Come on, Star Wars and Mass Effect were hyper-commercial from the inception. Lime is taunting GAF by making the trolling super obvious.

Dennis

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1843 on: October 24, 2016, 01:36:26 PM »
The brilliance of Lime is how by cloaking yourself in the language of social justice you can completely disarm the NeoGAF moderation team.

"Look, I can get away with trolling you assholes every day because I am saying all the social justice stuff the moderators feel it is their sacred duty to defend."

In this way Lime ingeniously manages to troll both the average gaffer as well as the red overlords.

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1844 on: October 24, 2016, 01:38:50 PM »
yo this guy is even better than Lime
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You're talking to an economic historian, so this is going to fall on deaf ears. I like to think what I study is not useless.
:lol

and these guys
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Not sure how well I can articulate this, but I think what happened is the nerd culture too quickly swung from being an essentially ostracized group of "weirdos" to what is now basically an exploited destination for tourists. The nerds put in decades of effort carving a niche for themselves while taking social abuse. Now you have people coming in on a whim dropping considerable money on products that don't have much thought put into them, or meaning to the buyer, and these people are apt to abandon the entire culture once the next hip thing comes along.
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Batman's rogues gallery is practically an illustrated guide to mental issues, or at least to quite a few of them, but even outside that there's quite a bit of discussion about what makes the titular character such a lasting force - the Hypercrisis threads from 4chan's /co/ come to mind, especially that one bit about dramatic presentation being so integral tot he Batman persona that that character was essentially born in a theatre outside which young bruce wayne's parent got shot. Alas, the fleeting nature of 4chan threads make stuff like that tricky to share, sustain and debate, outside a few recurring screengrabs - it may never reach an audience that might get more out of the setting thanks to it.

I guess there are quite a few Youtube videos on aspects like that, but more often than not I get the impression people in those are trying to sell themselves more than the ideas, and it's kind of a poor environment to counter points properly.
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You have girls wanting to watch Daredevil on netflix with you, you can discuss shows like Gotham or Flash and people discuss it like they probably discussed Melrose Place and 90210 in the past. Game of Thrones a show about Dragons and Zombies and medieval fantasy is winning all the awards and people are excited and it is the biggest show on television right now.
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I'm not partying because Jack Kirby isn't a household name. Because many of the people who created this stuff have died penniless. Because I value artists over brands.

Also because all these movies and TV shows are terrible.
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Welcome to what gay people and black people have been dealing with fo forever.
:doge

agrajag

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1845 on: October 24, 2016, 01:39:23 PM »
Some of my best friends are white and some, I imagine, are good people.

Lies. They all must be cucked, lobotomized, sterilized, and euthanized in thay order.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1846 on: October 24, 2016, 01:51:17 PM »
Didn't think you'd waste it on this thread.

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Jansen

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1849 on: October 24, 2016, 01:59:56 PM »

tiesto

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1850 on: October 24, 2016, 02:00:26 PM »
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=221298639#post221298639

🙄

:drudge

The "10 years ago today" things are going too far... noting the anniversary where Sony took down Lik-Sang? Really?
^_^

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CatsCatsCats

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1852 on: October 24, 2016, 02:08:42 PM »

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1853 on: October 24, 2016, 02:09:15 PM »
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=221298639#post221298639

🙄

:drudge

The "10 years ago today" things are going too far... noting the anniversary where Sony took down Lik-Sang? Really?
Speaking of racism, Sony and ten years ago, we forgot the tenth anniversary of this!

archie4208

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1854 on: October 24, 2016, 02:11:04 PM »
I bought Ouendan off Lik-Sang.

This anniversary hits really close to home.

agrajag

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1855 on: October 24, 2016, 02:16:43 PM »

Shuri

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1856 on: October 24, 2016, 02:23:10 PM »
Lik-Sang was the 'clean' branch of a very oldschool hk company that used to be the biggest exporters of snes/genesis console copiers in the early '90 and eventually n64/saturn/psx stuff. You used to see ads about them in intro loaders at the start of scene releases of console games of the era.

I wish i could remember the original name. It's probably still out there

Nintendo used to be hardcore about this and they suddenly went 'legit' overnight, rebranding themselves as an import store, and then they opened a fancy physical store too at some point.

So gaffers are crying about a store originally linked to heavy duty warez groups, copiers companies and psx silvers corps.





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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1857 on: October 24, 2016, 02:57:15 PM »
(Image removed from quote.)

Y'all got real mad real quick

I know you'd be using that pretty quickly.
rub

zomgee

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1858 on: October 24, 2016, 03:03:39 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1299261

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When Republicans watch Star Wars.... Do they support the Empire instead of the Rebels? "Who are these rebels, anyway?"

Just two weeks to go.
rub

Nola

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no alt-right allowed]
« Reply #1859 on: October 24, 2016, 03:06:27 PM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=221316582

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I don't think there was anything anyone knew about that woman to indicate she wasn't aware of the plights of people in Africa. She was visiting family who had been ardent supporters of Nelson Mandella. Her joke was actually pretty obviously a jab at Americans being oblivious, or at least able to ignore, the problems facing those people (problems she knew about because, surprise, she's got fucking family in Africa). I didn't earlier, but I don't really have much trouble defending her. She was treated like shit by complete strangers because there are shitty anonymous people (children) out there on the internet who treat it like they're still in middle school and its cool to be a bully.
If all these things were true maybe she should have thought a little better about posting that knowing how it could and would maybe be perceived.


I.E. Maybe she shouldn't of worn that dress knowing how it could and would maybe be perceived.