VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[Himu]

That person is a moron. 

[mormapope]

Bernie was the main candidate during the primaries talking about the environment in ANY capacity. While Trump isn't gonna do the environment any favors, Hilary's approach would've been timid at best.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223934496&postcount=243

I think this is probably the most reasonable time to use violence on someone just because they voted for someone else.

Who does this guy think he is? Amir0x?

[benjipwns]

Kintari playing with fire again: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936578&postcount=541

This goes beyond that, a lot of people are trying to denormalize what they feel is prejudice and hateful language towards people who are white - I'm pretty sure I got banned for that. But holy shit - look at OT right now. People are so conformable saying disgusting stuff about white people that we literally have a thread about them being beat up and people are like 'Terrible... But I get it.' or 'If ever there was a time it was okay'. In this thread alone people are justifying language that you would -never- be allowed to use against any other ethnicity. I think mods are starting to ban this stuff a bit more, but holy shit is the sentiment that it's okay very widespread.

[benjipwns]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

[thisismyusername]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

[Kara]

Bernie was the main candidate during the primaries talking about the environment in ANY capacity. While Trump isn't gonna do the environment any favors, Hilary's approach would've been timid at best.

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/10/clinton-fracking-theworld/

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this. GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge. We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'. A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy. Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle. GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

[fistfulofmetal]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

[james]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

People vote for hope and change

[benjipwns]

I think that a lot of people, especially in Democratic circles, were only getting one half of Trump's message because of willful media choices. It was very easy to get the impression that all he was doing was going around attacking minorities and mocking the disabled and saying things about women. Or LOCK HER UP. But he was also constantly talking about jobs, jobs, jobs, and other kinds of "hope and change" bullshit around all those statements. But if you don't watch the whole speech you don't see that.

You got the same thing with Clinton too, her talking about jobs or this policy or that, that's not on the news much unless its somebody like Vox gushing about it. But if she says Trump supporters are deplorable, that is. If she falls down some steps, same thing.

[thisismyusername]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

Someone on reddit said it better than me, but paraphrasing it: You have to worry about the economy and peoples living-with-money/cost-of-living (whatever you want to call it, not sure of the actual term for it) before worrying about social issues. People will not care about systematic racism and "black lives matter" UNTIL they feel they are able to live without having to scratch at jobs like chickens finding food.

I live in a blue-county among a sea of red. I live on the outskirts of a college town. I can see BOTH sides of this and can understand why Trump got as far as he did. All you have to do is leave your town and go toward these places (notable would be Flint with it's water issues and general downtrodden "life" given auto industry left Detroit area mostly) to see why Clinton and social-progressive-politics weren't hitting there. People going "they're all racist" is missing the point. People can not care about "black lives matter"-ing until "their" lives matter.

Obama ran on "Hope and Change" which resonated with folks after the Bush years and the economy tanking in the tail-end of that. While he was semi-successful, it wasn't enough for most folks.

[daemon]

I think that a lot of people, especially in Democratic circles, were only getting one half of Trump's message because of willful media choices. It was very easy to get the impression that all he was doing was going around attacking minorities and mocking the disabled and saying things about women. Or LOCK HER UP. But he was also constantly talking about jobs, jobs, jobs, and other kinds of "hope and change" bullshit around all those statements. But if you don't watch the whole speech you don't see that.

You got the same thing with Clinton too, her talking about jobs or this policy or that, that's not on the news much unless its somebody like Vox gushing about it. But if she says Trump supporters are deplorable, that is. If she falls down some steps, same thing.

for the longest time I've heard "mexicans as rapists", and never caring to getting to the full quote:

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Speaking in the context of illegal immigration

which is sustained from the data gathered:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html


BUT THE "MEXICAN" RAPIST RACIST TRUMP ATTACK ON LATINOS!

[Momo]

I'm not the master of US politics by any means, but it always seemed likely to me that a lot of Bernie people would hop over the Trump camp. Like it appeared that the main driving force for them was CHANGE and when they couldn't get change + a decent platform they'd just fuck off to Trump and cast a vote for system collapse.

Even without me putting this evil on Bernie supporters, it seems very clear from your elections that most people wanted a change (like 2/5ths of the democratic voters and a majority chunk of repubs)

[zomgee]

I see neogaf moderation hasnt learned anything from this and is just doubling down on making their echo chamber the echoiest (yes i made that up).

There are echoey subthreads

[FunSlower]

I'm not the master of US politics by any means, but it always seemed likely to me that a lot of Bernie people would hop over the Trump camp. Like it appeared that the main driving force for them was CHANGE and when they couldn't get change + a decent platform they'd just fuck off to Trump and cast a vote for system collapse.

Even without me putting this evil on Bernie supporters, it seems very clear from your elections that most people wanted a change (like 2/5ths of the democratic voters and a majority chunk of repubs)

There's a significant amount of Trump folks who are anti-establishment, same as Bernie. It's not that far fetched to think some Bernie supporters wanted Trump.

[Boredfrom]

I think that a lot of people, especially in Democratic circles, were only getting one half of Trump's message because of willful media choices. It was very easy to get the impression that all he was doing was going around attacking minorities and mocking the disabled and saying things about women. Or LOCK HER UP. But he was also constantly talking about jobs, jobs, jobs, and other kinds of "hope and change" bullshit around all those statements. But if you don't watch the whole speech you don't see that.

You got the same thing with Clinton too, her talking about jobs or this policy or that, that's not on the news much unless its somebody like Vox gushing about it. But if she says Trump supporters are deplorable, that is. If she falls down some steps, same thing.

for the longest time I've heard "mexicans as rapists", and never caring to getting to the full quote:

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Speaking in the context of illegal immigration

which is sustained from the data gathered:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html


BUT THE "MEXICAN" RAPIST RACIST TRUMP ATTACK ON LATINOS!

Still not true, thought. Not every Mexican that goes to USA is illegal, and there is a real problem here of mexican scientific talent going anywhere but Mexico http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/articulo/periodismo-de-datos/2015/07/7/fuga-de-cerebros-crece-en-mexico-alertan

[Kara]

Speaking in the context of illegal immigration

which is sustained from the data gathered:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html


BUT THE "MEXICAN" RAPIST RACIST TRUMP ATTACK ON LATINOS!

This data shows that people in Mexico are committing crimes, which can be said of every country on Earth, not that people immigrating from Mexico to the United States are some spectacular kind of human detritus (as if survivors of an Gorta Mór or funny-hat-wearing English theocrats were H-1B Visa candidates)

[benjipwns]

I'm more concerned with when there's friction, Trump won't go "I'll veto everything". He'll make a bid to assume complete power. That's my worry, and I know there's checks and balances against it, but he's defied all odds so far.

[bork]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

[daemon]

I think that a lot of people, especially in Democratic circles, were only getting one half of Trump's message because of willful media choices. It was very easy to get the impression that all he was doing was going around attacking minorities and mocking the disabled and saying things about women. Or LOCK HER UP. But he was also constantly talking about jobs, jobs, jobs, and other kinds of "hope and change" bullshit around all those statements. But if you don't watch the whole speech you don't see that.

You got the same thing with Clinton too, her talking about jobs or this policy or that, that's not on the news much unless its somebody like Vox gushing about it. But if she says Trump supporters are deplorable, that is. If she falls down some steps, same thing.

for the longest time I've heard "mexicans as rapists", and never caring to getting to the full quote:

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Speaking in the context of illegal immigration

which is sustained from the data gathered:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html


BUT THE "MEXICAN" RAPIST RACIST TRUMP ATTACK ON LATINOS!

Still not true, thought. Not every Mexican that goes to USA is illegal, and there is a real problem here of mexican scientific talent going anywhere but Mexico http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/articulo/periodismo-de-datos/2015/07/7/fuga-de-cerebros-crece-en-mexico-alertan

He didn't say that every Mexican was an illegal immigrant, the quote was on context of illegal immigration and the wall. I stand corrected on the correlation of facts from the previous poster. Yes, I did correlate facts that don't have a defined causality. They can be raped anywhere from their origin of departure until reaching the USA.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

Thank God we don't have any standards for basic human decency here.

[MMaRsu]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

Exactly. God forbid you say something negative about GAF and how the mod team is constantly fucking up. They dont want any dissenting opinions. Fuck GAF and its mod team. Bunch of losers in their own little special bubble ( #notallgafusers )

[MMaRsu]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

Actually I think he was banned for this instead:

    Originally Posted by SuperAngelo64

    I still post here because I like the discussion on the gaming side. Do I still believe in gamergate? Absolutely I'm one of them. Don't like it, newbie? Tough shit.

[railGUN]

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

 

[Momo]

I hope people just go 'bye bitch' and fuck off, now is the time if ever

[Boredfrom]

I think that a lot of people, especially in Democratic circles, were only getting one half of Trump's message because of willful media choices. It was very easy to get the impression that all he was doing was going around attacking minorities and mocking the disabled and saying things about women. Or LOCK HER UP. But he was also constantly talking about jobs, jobs, jobs, and other kinds of "hope and change" bullshit around all those statements. But if you don't watch the whole speech you don't see that.

You got the same thing with Clinton too, her talking about jobs or this policy or that, that's not on the news much unless its somebody like Vox gushing about it. But if she says Trump supporters are deplorable, that is. If she falls down some steps, same thing.

for the longest time I've heard "mexicans as rapists", and never caring to getting to the full quote:

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Speaking in the context of illegal immigration

which is sustained from the data gathered:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html


BUT THE "MEXICAN" RAPIST RACIST TRUMP ATTACK ON LATINOS!

Still not true, thought. Not every Mexican that goes to USA is illegal, and there is a real problem here of mexican scientific talent going anywhere but Mexico http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/articulo/periodismo-de-datos/2015/07/7/fuga-de-cerebros-crece-en-mexico-alertan

He didn't say that every Mexican was an illegal immigrant, the quote was on context of illegal immigration and the wall. I stand corrected on the correlation of facts from the previous poster. Yes, I did correlate facts that don't have a defined causality. They can be raped anywhere from their origin of departure until reaching the USA.

The thing is that people that go the US legally is generally "the best".

Mexican goverment doesnt encourage illegal inmigration, there is constant campaigns showing how dangerous is to cross to the US. We understand why the US wants to have better control in the border, but building a wall just encourages xenophobia and we dont have the money to pay for it as Trump wants.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223956111&postcount=501

 

[james]

If everyone goes out the door, who is left to view the ads?

[VomKriege]

PoliGAF really has a problem with the whole "peaceful transfer of power" thing, do they ?

Trump is going to make it so easy to campaign against him.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223957038&postcount=18578

Love the confidence.
If Trump doesn't burn the whole house down until then, I expect the 2020 campaign to be madness to be honest. Between his access to media as President, to full RNC backing and to much, much more money this time round, I envision Trump face plastered all around the country 24/7.

[Averon]

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

"Remember that one time when NeoGAF community became self-aware of their echo chamber and questionable mod behavior?"

Whelp, that brief moment of clarity didn't last long.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311813

[railGUN]

Ivanka will be the first female President of the United States of Trumpmerica.

 

Also, EviLore is just grumpy he spent $7,500 on Hillary / DNC.

[Dennis]

benji, why were you banned?

[benjipwns]

whoever likes RPGCrazied I found him again: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223961151&postcount=55

Democracy and free speech is dead. I'm legit scared.

in response to this:

Trump flew from New York to Washington on his private jet without that "pool" of reporters, photographers and television cameras that have traveled with presidents and presidents-elect.

[benjipwns]

Okay, here's my fucking hot election take for all y'all:

Hillary Clinton was an excellent candidate who ran a strong campaign.

She faced a Russian intelligence operation unlike anything we've ever seen, unprecedented in the level of interference in the American election we allowed, that spent a year exposing literally all of her personal and professional information, with the complicit aid of ostensible left-wingers who gladly lent their plausible deniability to a smear campaign.

She faced an explicit effort by the FBI to destroy her by mainstreaming nationalist white-wing (this was a typo but I'm keeping it) smears and making them the basis of meaningless but lengthy formal investigations, including what I would consider a deliberate violation of the Hatch Act (not necessarily by Comey, but by others in the FBI who Comey was trying unsuccessfully to control).

She faced five years of an elaborate Republican smear campaign designed to create scandals out of nowhere, building meaningless choices and real tragedies into stories that took over the media.

She faced a media desperately eager to normalize white nationalism so as to avoid admitting America's original sin, who literally hired people from her opponent's campaign to talk on television because their normal paid shills wouldn't do the job, who seized like a dying man on any scrap of negative news for her to try to preserve the dollars they receive from racists.

And she still won the popular vote and got within 1% in three states of winning the presidency.

I'd like to see your white socialist do that.

I am unconvinced that any other candidate could have won in the face of that much deliberate aggression from multiple different state apparatuses and from the ostensibly neutral arbiters of the race.

Hillary didn't fail. America failed her.

[benjipwns]

benji, why were you banned?

Not voting.

Either that or talking about the hype I'm hearing for Terry McAuliffe in 2020. Which just proves how much it's growing if GAF is trying to keep it under control after the last time they appeared as a top five referrer to a Democratic Presidential nominee.

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i had to login i didn't know i was banned because i had logged out

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[Dennis]

benji, why were you banned?

Not voting.

Either that or talking about the hype I'm hearing for Terry McAuliffe in 2020. Which just proves how much it's growing if GAF is trying to keep it under control after the last time they appeared as a top five referrer to a Democratic Presidential nominee.

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i had to login i didn't know i was banned because i had logged out

[close]

Logged out of your benji account huh?

That is not suspicious at all.....

[benjipwns]

kame starts the best stuff, and leaves Liu Kang Baking A Pie to do all the heavy lifting of keeping it going

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223959198&postcount=539

It's telling to me that all the responses to kame's post are going back to the one example of violence in the OP rather than the thousands of examples daily against minorities. It will always be about finger pointing but never doing work ourselves and handling the responsibilities.

What happened in the OP is shitty, but I think a lot of you are still in the bubble you said you would leave after Tuesday shocked you.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223959210&postcount=541

Totally agree.100 fucking %. The fucking double standard on display, the obvious bias, the moderate attitude on display in this thread is fucked. We have a thread with a growing number of violent hate crimes against POC while this incident stays at the top?

I agree. Protect yourself. I'm standing with you, fighting with you for your equal rights. Not words but my body. Nobody deserves to take this kind of treatment sitting down. White Americans doesn't want to be inconvenienced. Well, too bad.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223959405&postcount=544

Violence is not the answer.

At the same time, Trump voters would not have hesitated to use violence, even before they won.

So no, violence is not the answer, but let's not pretend Trump voters should be immune from the consequences of their decisions.

Honestly, white Trump supporters made a gesture that says "Fuck everyone who isn't me". These are the people who tell minorities to "deal with it."

As a white person, I say: Deal with it, white people. You opened this can of shit, now eat it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223959498&postcount=545

People love telling minorities how to respond to racism in this country.

You can do it, but you must do it in a way that doesn't inconvenience me or effect others like me.

If you really cared, you would know that this is a direct result of the evil Trump allowed to flourish under his campaign. The ones who will suffer from his presidency are lashing out. If you didn't want this, you shouldn't have voted for Trump or third party or Harambe.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223959999&postcount=556

I love how this thread stays on the first page but the thread about the MULTIPLE attacks and intimidation on minorities is buried.

We all know why though. We all know why.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223960149&postcount=558

Threads like this usually get shut down. I'm a little confused as to why this one is seemingly ok.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223960404&postcount=561

So it's cool to assault people that don't vote like you do?

It's not unreasonable for people to lash out in anger towards people who treat them as a lesser form of life.

Beating people up is bad, killing people or wishing for their deaths is also not fantastic, but you have to be completely lacking in empathy to react like this.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223960617&postcount=566

This blows. Not to endorse violence, but at least we know there's a decent chance he was racist.

In order to feel empathy, some people need to experience pain themselves... Maybe.
I know, it's not okay, but part of me wants it to happen.

Actual ban was for making these same exact kind of posts but facetiously.

[VomKriege]

It was based on all the polls saying it was a lock, so we were focusing money on places the polls suggested were more competitive.
It's not Clinton's fault that all the polls were wrong. Yes with hindsight we can see that we need to fix polls

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223961223&postcount=18650

but based on available data, the existing strategy was working.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223958805&postcount=18603

Who could have predicted that over reliance on polls and data could be bad ?

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Anyone with a passing familiarity of the subject or social sciences, I guess ?

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[zomgee]

Ivanka will be the first female President of the United States of Trumpmerica.

 

Also, EviLore is just grumpy he spent $7,500 on Hillary / DNC.

Our first First Lady we've seen nekkid?

[thisismyusername]

benji, why were you banned?

Not voting.

Either that or talking about the hype I'm hearing for Terry McAuliffe in 2020. Which just proves how much it's growing if GAF is trying to keep it under control after the last time they appeared as a top five referrer to a Democratic Presidential nominee.

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i had to login i didn't know i was banned because i had logged out

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Logged out of your benji account huh?

That is not suspicious at all.....

But logged into his Dennis account.

[benjipwns]

But logged into his Dennis account.

Lime.

[Kara]

Once again the tyrant Steve Youngblood strikes dear, sweet benji down.

[benjipwns]

first he strikes down Hillary, now another with "tremendous hatred in their heart"

this message paid for by benji for vp 2020

[Let's Cyber]

And I'm not saying don't worry about it, I'm saying it's not a global catastrophe literally around the corner. It's at least half a century out, maybe more. There's plenty of time to do things, to experiment and test, especially with the improvements that are already occurring basically on their own, four years of the GOP back in the Presidency won't end all chance of ever doing anything or necessarily even halt our progress and definitively kill us.

Regarding the chicken littles, assuming this was their first election (and for a lot of them it was) I think a lot of these posters probably didn't have the best understanding of climate change to begin with so it comes as a shock.  The concept has penetrated pop culture in a way that everyone is aware of the term but I doubt a lot of them really understood the consequences.  When one first starts digging into it, it is very scary sounding and even apocalyptic depending upon the article one reads.

The truth is, climate change is probably not going to significantly affect the day to day lives of gen xers or even millennials, at least not in the US.  The warnings have been to not kick the can down the road again because actions now will have a direct impact on the future.  We didn't want future generations dealing with the worst case scenarios which ARE dire. But that's just for humans.  For those who gives a shit about environmental conservation and biodiversity, they know an apocalypse has been and still is occurring

Bernie was the main candidate during the primaries talking about the environment in ANY capacity. While Trump isn't gonna do the environment any favors, Hilary's approach would've been timid at best.

I can't remember which primary debate it was (maybe the first one) but the moderator asked Hillary about climate change and her first response was about chasing down Chinese officials during the Copenhagen Summit and demanding access to secret meetings.  She basically pulled the "yeah but what about China?" card right out of the gate. 

 

She would have been better than an outright denier of course but we knew where her loyalties were at after all the dodging on Keystone XL. I was never hopeful she would be an outspoken advocate on environmental issues. 

[Huff]

Just don't breed and you don't have to worry about climate control

Problem solved

[Rman]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

EL has such a thin skin, man.

[benjipwns]

The purpose of this post is to explain why your family members are not white nationalists just because they voted for Donald Trump.

This is important to you, because you love them and don't want to believe that they are morally culpable for, and even in favor of, the violence against people of color that will ensue; and because, ultimately, if you knew they were white nationalists and did nothing, and still maintain friendly contact with them, you are complicit as well.

I decline to provide you this indulgence.

Your family members are white nationalists. That's what they voted for. That's who they are. That's what they are responsible for. They are morally culpable for the consequences of their choice.

If you refuse to accept this and to engage with it, then you are complicit as well.

That's the way things are.

i love new pigeon

[Joe Molotov]

No John, you are the white nationalists.

[benjipwns]

StraightWhiteMale-GAF - what can we do to help Minority-GAF?

I thought it would get better but im still fucking depressed

Is it unhealthy to assume the worst?

My 10 year old son and his classmates are afraid there is going to be a war.

Is anyone now genuinely anxious about nuclear war?

How are you dealing with people who voted for Trump?

[daemon]

did you really get banned benji? There's no saving GAF, it's in self-destruct mode.

[benjipwns]

i should have been banned long ago and more often but somebody likes me

[benjipwns]

If you couldn't be bothered to show up and stop Cheeto Hitler, who you supposedly hate, then you are no better than the people who supported him. Not standing against him is a tacit endorsement, it means you were fine with either choice. A lot of blame falls on Clinton's campaign and the Dems, but I will not let the people that stayed home off the goddamned hook. At the end of the day this is on them.

Is it worth turning to private companies to fund PP? Apple/Valve/EA etc? I'm debating randomly emailing Gabe Newell and going "This organisation needs to be saved, help it!" But I also feel a bit dumb, maybe?

[railGUN]

I mean I expected some pretty serious meltdowns if Trump won, and I have to be honest, I may have willed him into power, but jesus christ, place is pure insanity right now.

The biggest disappointment of Hillary not winning, for me, is that we don't get to see EviLore's avatar tribute change to him cosplaying her in a pantsuit.  :'(

[thisismyusername]

The biggest disappointment to Hillary not winning, for me, is that we don't get to see EviLore's avatar tribute change to him cosplaying her in a pantsuit.  :'(

[Let's Cyber]

These GAFers really need to chill out and be

[Kara]

Lore is going to rake it in two years from now when we're knee deep in der Kulturkampf 3 (Tag line: "Ein, zwei, lie?!?").

It's like y'all weren't even on the internet during George II's reign.

[Cerveza mas fina]

amirox is banned?

[benjipwns]

now they're analyzing body language in a photo of obama and trump shaking hands, you'll never guess what they see