VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[Shuri]

I think Lime may be a shared account.

One user in Denmark.

One user in the US.

Hmmm, this pattern reminds me of some other high profile gaffer tho I forget his name.

But surely he wouldn't...

Dragona/Lyre?

 

And I remember rumors of Dragona being from Europe back then..  and LyteEdge was american..

[Let's Cyber]

I normally don't believe in Astroturf conspiracy statements like this, but considering that apparently during the Xbox One reveal a lot of junior accounts here defending MS traced back to Microsoft headquarters, and considering that some of the most ardent Hillary supporters (and I WAS one of them, never once supported Bernie) are MIA right now.

I don't know. I just don't know.

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[bork]

I think Lime may be a shared account.

One user in Denmark.

One user in the US.

Hmmm, this pattern reminds me of some other high profile gaffer tho I forget his name.

But surely he wouldn't...

Dragona/Lyre?

 

And I remember rumors of Dragona being from Europe back then..  and LyteEdge was american..

LOL.  That's me.  Lyte...not Lyre. 

[nudemacusers]

wait bork pls = dragona?

[Sausage]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1312704

Gaffers mindlessly flushing money down the drain based on a lie by OP will never not be hilarious.

[benjipwns]

"NYTimes: The Democrats have one last chance to take back the Senate."

Normally when you put (Media outlet):

it means that's the headline that they chose.

[benjipwns]

Pretty ignorant when it comes to US politics, but what's stopping liberals from getting on a bus and driving there to vote from around the country?

[benjipwns]

I donated because I believe in this well. WE NEED EVERY CHANCE WE CAN GET.

I thought we had a chance, I would never intentionally lie to anyone about someone as big as this. Jesus christ man, I'm in fucking tears right now, I can't handle this.

[railGUN]

Seriously, OP shouldn't be allowed to make threads for a while. Not only did he mislead with the title ("NYTimes:" implying there was a quote to follow), he is factually incorrect about what this election's outcome would mean, AND he's using these inaccuracies to encourage Gaffers to spend money.

That's gotta be the trifecta of things not to do when making a thread, right?

You just got...

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Amir0xed!

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[benjipwns]

Leave the OP alone, obviously he got excited and counted wrong, i can't blame him if he saw a tiny glimpse of hope between all of this darkness and wanted to share it with the rest of us. *Hugs OP*

[railGUN]

Oooooh. A revolution. Led by Michael Moore.

[james]

To be fair, turnout for that runoff might be pretty good.

But WTF dont they do instant runoff? Do they like wasting money on elections?

[benjipwns]

It's Louisiana, they still use law derived from the Napoleonic France civil code.

[Himu]

the one perplexing thing on GAF is that after seeing the GOP lose for 8 years and being like "Why aren't you paying attention to why you're losing?" GAF's answer to the loss is essentially, "We're right! We just need to wait until demographics change as the old white people die off!" Uh...ok. So you're willing to wait 20-30 years until that happens? What if you're wrong like everyone you've banned has been telling you, you willing to only find out after 20-30 years? THAT is your plan?

This isn't just gaf. I'm seeing it all over my facebook. I'm seeing it on subreddits I go to. I'm seeing it in a lot of places. Some people are saying "Fuck forgiveness;etc" "This blaming middle America stuff is bs;etc" You've got people who think trying to understand why we lost is an attempt to humanize and be empathetic with all Trump voters, who think you're sweeping the racism, misogyny, and xenophobia under the rug. Even in light of damning articles all over news media that are completely annihilating Clinton and her awful campaign.

[Himu]

Dragona is Canadian. I can't believe I had to tell people where my fucking friend lives to defend her from people who don't even know her.

[I'm a Puppy!]

All I remember about Dragona was parking jokes and something about fisting.

[james]

All I remember about Dragona was parking jokes and something about fisting.

You dont remember what happened when a joke was attempted and a character in said joke was female?

[Dennis]

Dragona would give 6 month bans for jokes about women drivers.

[Mupepe]

Dragona would give 6 month bans for jokes about women drivers.

Mine was only 3 months.

[james]

Dragona would give 6 month bans for jokes about women drivers.

The best part was that anyone who replied to or acknowledged the joke was banned too

[Let's Cyber]

This forum's turn on Clinton is absolutely unreal.

Hillary is the "No Man's Sky" of off-topic.

[Himu]

This forum's turn on Clinton is absolutely unreal.

Hillary is the "No Man's Sky" of off-topic.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224129289&postcount=34

[Take My Breh Away]

Coming off the Trump Election. There's more bad news for Gaffers. So what is GAF is triggered by more?

Their former favourite Playstation podcast refusing to cover the PS4 Pro because Sony didn't send them one and now they are turning on one of the hosts because he voted third party

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1312200

Or

PS4 Pro gives a worse framerate performance than standard PS4 in some titles, including GAF's cause celibré on why games should be "art". The Last Of Us Remastered.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1312689

 

[benjipwns]

The thing that Colin and Greg are forgetting is that they bill themselves as a Playstation podcast. That’s the whole reason I and many others support them on Patreon (or rather, used to, but I’ll get to that later). I don’t tune in for their critical remarks about the PS4, and it seems like Sony would agree with me here. I think it’s absolutely right for Sony to not send them a Pro after they pretty much tried sabotage its launch to their audience of hardcore Playstation fans with all these falsehoods. It’s incredibly ironic to now see them throwing their toys out of the pram because they didn’t get one for free. If I was Sony, I’d be looking into legal avenues to prohibit them from calling themselves the #1 Playstation podcast too. Now, onto why I don’t support them anymore: I was able to deal with Colin being openly republican before, but his comments after the election on twitter have just been disgusting, inconsiderate, and completely insensitive. Minority lives are at risk, and he is running around spouting off “both sides”/”it’ll all be fine” bullshit, along with a healthy side dish of “lets brand all protesters as violent thugs”. This of course comes after him saying he didn’t vote Trump. Well, going by his current tone, it’s pretty clear that was a lie.

Here's the thing...if you aren't passionate or dislike something you have to give a better reason. It's kind of your duty if you're a pop culture personality. You can't simply stand on your soapbox and say you don't like something to your followers if you haven't experienced it for yourself. It's just ignorance. It does benefit you if you either have a 1080p or 4K TV. Give us reasons why you don't like it by experiencing it yourself. You clearly have the money. If you have a podcast dedicated to all things PlayStation and you don't talk about a MAJOR PS product then what the hell are you doing?

You aren't being fair to your audience. These people pay for your lifestyle and they deserve an informed opinion. Just my two cents

[VomKriege]

PoliGAF trying to fight back the anti Clinton backlash in OT.
It's not super effective.

[FStop7]

As far as I can tell Sony didn't send PS4 Pro units to any outlets.

I guess making a site dedicated to fellating Sony hasn't worked out so well.  They didn't get the freebies AND the fanboys hate them.

[Klelk]

TrumpCrazied doesn't know about the Bush shoe incident 

http://www.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=224102943

[stufte]

TrumpCrazied doesn't know about the Bush shoe incident 

http://www.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=224102943

Probably because he was in elementary school when it happened.

[Let's Cyber]

There was already a mini-backlash in the community thread against Moriarty for being a libertarian, not surprised to see GAF pour it on post-election. 

PoliGAF trying to fight back the anti Clinton backlash in OT.
It's not super effective.

kind of crazy to see them STILL browbeat dissenters with the "you just don't understand politics" angle. 

Especially after all the reassurances that this was going to be a landslide for Clinton even AS THE RESULTS WERE COMING IN on Tuesday night.

[benjipwns]

Ahem, she won the popular vote in a landslide.

Also:

We disqualified Donald Trump, making him unfit to be president
      Exit polls show that 63% of voters do not believe Trump has the temperament to be president.
      Exit polls also showed that he was the most unpopular nominee on Election Day of any candidate in modern history with a net favorability of -22 (38-60).
We also won the economic debate, addressing the anger and frustration many Americans felt about wages and good-paying jobs.
      According to exit polls, 52% of voters cited the economy as their biggest concern and they supported Sec. Clinton by a 10 point margin (52-42)

She didn't lose this election. It was the voters who stabbed Obama in the back by refusing to do their duty.

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Something you'd know if you understood how politics actually works instead of in Bernie fantasy land.

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[Kara]

Big ups to Dragona, the only mod to ever hand me a ban in my long, undistinguished, and continually ongoing GAF career.

[daemon]

Ahem, she won the popular vote in a landslide.

You call 0.30ish % a landslide?

[Let's Cyber]

She didn't lose this election. It was the voters who stabbed Obama in the back by refusing to do their duty.

That still remains a huge failure on Clinton's part. Faith in people to have morality. Specfically Republicans.

Hillary was just too pure and trusting  :'(

This country isn't good enough for her.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224153379&postcount=201

groomed for congress to one day run for the President of the United States.. we saw it with Hillary. just stay home Chelsea.

Yes Chelsea stay home and preferably in the kitchen where your Clinton-esk features won't offend progressive eyes.
Would it help your sense of righteousness if she changed her last name to Mezvinsky? You know her Husband's name?

[Averon]

Seeing PoliGAF become a pariah to GAF beyond its bubble puts big damn smile on my face. 

PoliGAF deserves all the shit it is getting after a year of constant mocking, ban baiting, biased moderation, and dog piling. That one community made the entire OT a more miserable place than it already is.

And it looks like PoliGAF learned nothing and is doubling down. 

[fizzel]

Ivanka will be your first lady-prez.

[FStop7]

Ivanka will be your first lady-prez.

Change the dash to a comma and it's still true

[nudemacusers]

Can we rate First Ladies in this thread 

[stufte]

Can we rate First Ladies in this thread 

Ivanka>Eleanor>Everyone else

[benjipwns]

Laura's always been underrated, Hillary's not the only one who can knock off a lover and get away with it.

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Plus librarian.

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[benjipwns]

You call 0.30ish % a landslide?

You have to adjust the numbers for voter bias.

[benjipwns]

why is there not a ten hour loop of that already

[Dennis]

Anybody know why backslashbunny was banned?

[Atramental]

For being my alt account.

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j/k

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[benjipwns]

he's back! the OG! and here i thought he was getting soft in his old age...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=224165316#post224165316

She lost. Get over it. I hate that Trump won, too, but this would be the equivalent of rolling a grenade down a crowded hallway. We would have outright war in this country.

Outright war is far better than rolling over for fascism.

They are the ones with all the guns remember. You'll be dead.

Not with Obama as Commander in Chief.

Nothing more fascist than trying to subvert democratic institutions. The irony is too much.

Trump "won" with the collusion of the Russian government on a variety of fronts including but not limited to hacking into voting systems and hacking into the DNC. There's nothing remotely legitimate about Trump's "victory." It is an aberration of democracy and must be treated as such

Exactly. Which is why no American, really no one in the world, should ever accept this abortion of an election as legitimate. It is not. Trump's fascism and the fascist means by which he "won" the election are not normal and must be problematized every day until he and his ilk are out of power.

"Salty Hillary fans"? This isn't sports or a videogame. I could give fuckall about being on a "winning team." This is fascism, open and naked coming to the United States. So please dial back the glibness for a moment.

Voter suppression was real and documented.

Comey got himself involved in the election in an historic, unprecedented way. Russians were hacking into voting systems.

There's nothing legitimate about the Trump campaign's fascist coup. Nothing.

I will never accept the fascist Trump coup as legitimate and I never will. There are many, many other who will do the same.

Everyone should do themselves a favor and read the sage words of Masha Gessen, a Russian journalist very familiar with the rise of a dictatorship.

Others:

Ah, the Erdoganic version of democracy, only at least a majority of voters supported him and he didn't have interference from the FBI and dictatorships.

Not subverting shit. This would be literally be used for the fucking reason EC is a thing. EC must act and prevent America from killing itself.

Read the Federalist Papers #10 and #68. Preventing something like Trump was part of the design of the Electoral College.

I honestly read posts like these as "minorities, fall back and know your place." Instead of being so flippant and telling people to just accept defeat and get over it, how about you actually be open to legitimate concerns of millions in this country?

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1312593

O.P. fail.

Fuck off.

We get it. A rich white male's discrimination and marginalization of minorities and women doesn't affect you.

But fuck you for thinking you can tell us that we shouldn't be affected by it.

You are on the wrong side of history, O.P. Have fun with that.

"Hey, guys, Hitler won fair and square, accept it!"

OP, you sound privileged as fuck right now.

You and every single moderate motherfucker on this board and on this planet can go fuck themselves.

This is propaganda. We are getting sprayed with this brainwash that this is just some normal election.

Resist.

This thread can't get locked soon enough.

is OP even American

fuck off

This is peak privileged white moderate right here

The longer this discussion goes on, the more I realize that excising Trump voters from my life isn't enough. I also need to excise people who just throw up their hands and say "you just gotta accept it, man!"

I hope you do a lot of World War 2 reading, OP. It feels like as soon as that moment in time left the public consciousness due to age that we're reliving it again. Our grandmas are talking to us about our families escaping being burned in ovens while kids joke about it to our face and tell us to fight after the violence and oppression starts.

We being too rough on op here. This narrative is emanating from a source upstream.



Propaganda.

The more I think about this thread, the more it pisses me off.

Democracy is rolling over for a dude who won such a small percentage of the electorate, and not even the popular vote, when he doesn't give a shit about you? Fuck that, democracy is your officials representing to the best of their ability the will of the people. Trump is actively hostile towards most of the people of the united states through his words and actions. If people don't 'fall in line', it's on him.

Democracy doesn't work when two wolves and a sheep are voting to decide whats for dinner.

Tyranny of the majority is a potential outcome of democracy. It existing does not make it acceptable

Accepting the person who won 26 percent of eligible voters? Not even as many actual voters as the loser, and an insanely low number regardless?

That's not democracy, that's a glitch in the system.

We don't need to wait because the protest are about the kind of democracy Trump is willing to implant on USA (you listen to what is fighting for). The people are saying FUCK YOU Tyranny of the majority is unacceptable. We want a Consensus Democracy, where everybody is included.

I never knew GAF had so many secret libertarians/anarchists.

[FStop7]

Nicely written OP, Himu.  I hope people take the time to absorb it rather than lash out.

[Let's Cyber]

Anybody know why backslashbunny was banned?

possibly for calling Trump supporters "distinguished mentally-challenged fellows"

[FStop7]

Anybody know why backslashbunny was banned?

possibly for calling Trump supporters "distinguished mentally-challenged fellows"

LMAO

Call them all racists
Excuse acts of violence

But please oh please, don't call them distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

[Let's Cyber]

Next time Mrs. Clinton, don't give people so much credit. She should have pandered to the distinguished mentally-challenged fellows and then been like "lol just kidding but too bad we're forcing you to modernize."

That's only my guess for the ban.

[benjipwns]

LMAO

Call them all racists
Excuse acts of violence

But please oh please, don't call them distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

i think it's using problematic ablest language like "distinguished mentally-challenged fellow" which is an unacceptable term

[clothedmacuser]

Nicely written OP, Himu.  I hope people take the time to absorb it rather than lash out.

I remember after that horrible week where two innocent black guys were shot by cops and then the next day there was the Dallas police shooting where she really opened up.  Cindi began using full paragraphs and self-reflection and commenting in a manner to explain her position instead of just flippant insults.  I saw that Cindi wasn't just another of those fart sniffers that get off on being morally right and having the most dismissive attitude to all who don't agree 100%.   But that clarity didn't' last long and soon Cindi was posting trite, "no lies detected" or "America is always racist and always will be," shit.  Yet still, she's the only only of the protected posters willing to do some introspection and attempt to understand others instead of banish.


Massive Duck, C.M. on the other hand must be operating on 4 hours of sleep since Tues and he's spinning in circles to justify being a passive-aggressive, arrogant, self-congratulating jerk-off.   

[Himu]

"America is always racist and always will be"

I mean, always will be is probably overly cynical but I'm not seeing the problem with this sentence given America literally became a world power off the backs of my ancestors.

[clothedmacuser]

"America is always racist and always will be"

I mean, always will be is probably overly cynical but I'm not seeing the problem with this sentence given America literally became a world power off the backs of my ancestors.

The cynical fatalism bothers me because it's lazy 14-year-old thinking.  Always offer the bleakest view of things and you can insulate yourself from any criticism or counter-argument.  Plus, it's trite, vague, and offers nothing when it's used in every single thread about a minority who is racially profiled.

Plus, Australia was founded as a prison colony but that doesn't reflect what it is today.  To just offer "it was founded on so therefore it exists today," is weak.  Better to talk about the systemic systems of oppression that existed beyond the founding that continues to this day.

[king of the internet]

LMAO

Call them all racists
Excuse acts of violence

But please oh please, don't call them distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

i think it's using problematic ablest language like "distinguished mentally-challenged fellow" which is an unacceptable term

It actually is kinda uncool imo

Expand your vocabulary, dummy.

[benjipwns]

"America is always racist and always will be"

I mean, always will be is probably overly cynical but I'm not seeing the problem with this sentence given America literally became a world power off the backs of my ancestors.

thanks for that btw

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there, we should be even now

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[benjipwns]

It actually is kinda uncool imo

Expand your vocabulary, dummy.

i agree but it's just funny if that's the reason she was banned

[Himu]

"America is always racist and always will be"

I mean, always will be is probably overly cynical but I'm not seeing the problem with this sentence given America literally became a world power off the backs of my ancestors.

The cynical fatalism bothers me because it's lazy 14-year-old thinking.  Always offer the bleakest view of things and you can insulate yourself from any criticism or counter-argument.  Plus, it's trite, vague, and offers nothing when it's used in every single thread about a minority who is racially profiled.

Plus, Australia was founded as a prison colony but that doesn't reflect what it is today.  To just offer "it was founded on so therefore it exists today," is weak.  Better to talk about the systemic systems of oppression that existed beyond the founding that continues to this day.

Telling me that is trite makes no sense. You bring up Australia and yeah, sure. Australia may be way different than why it was created but America is still in the position of profiting off of minorities suffering. The America of the past and the here and now subsist off racism and this will not change in the near future. Saying this is something a 14 year old would is highly dismissive and disrespectful.

[king of the internet]

I would imagine they probably do soft bans in general for using the word distinguished mentally-challenged fellow out of context.

[clothedmacuser]

"America is always racist and always will be"

I mean, always will be is probably overly cynical but I'm not seeing the problem with this sentence given America literally became a world power off the backs of my ancestors.

The cynical fatalism bothers me because it's lazy 14-year-old thinking.  Always offer the bleakest view of things and you can insulate yourself from any criticism or counter-argument.  Plus, it's trite, vague, and offers nothing when it's used in every single thread about a minority who is racially profiled.

Plus, Australia was founded as a prison colony but that doesn't reflect what it is today.  To just offer "it was founded on so therefore it exists today," is weak.  Better to talk about the systemic systems of oppression that existed beyond the founding that continues to this day.

Telling me that is trite makes no sense. You bring up Australia and yeah, sure. Australia may be way different than why it was created but America is still in the position of profiting off of minorities suffering. The America of the past and the here and now subsist off racism and this will not change in the near future. Saying this is something a 14 year old would is highly dismissive and disrespectful.

I'm sorry for the 14 year old line and you are right it's dismissive.  It just reminds me of the sort of apathy and whatever-ness that can be worn as an armor.  But I still find it a trite line to trot out for every instance of racism instead of commenting on the subject.  On GAF it's a parroted line applied whenever a poster wants to voice displeasure but not take the time to say anything relevant.

It's not the sentiment that I take issue with it's how it's used on GAF to restrict discussion while offering no real position.  On GAF it's just saying "This is bad," to +1 your morality points.