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« Reply #4260 on: November 14, 2016, 11:37:48 PM »

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« Reply #4261 on: November 14, 2016, 11:41:00 PM »
Well I did my part. I made a thread about how I subscribed to the New York Times and Washington Post.
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« Reply #4262 on: November 14, 2016, 11:46:47 PM »
I fell like most Gaffers haven't seen bitter defeat before.  Man, the meltdowns were great, but it's like the forum is in a collective depression. It's wild.  It's become the Charlie Brown of online communities.

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« Reply #4263 on: November 14, 2016, 11:55:01 PM »
I remember when I was worried and depressed when Obama won back in 2008. Then again, I was a conservative douche canoe back in 2008.  :doge

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« Reply #4264 on: November 15, 2016, 12:00:29 AM »
I voted for Hillary. But she lost.  Get over it.  You can't win everything.  I guess participation trophies were a bad idea ;) Everyone doesn't win and sometimes you're gonna lose and have to swallow that bitter pill.

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« Reply #4265 on: November 15, 2016, 12:14:16 AM »
They haven't, midterms don't count only the Presidency, and the majority of the forum has come of age politically during the Obama era. Basically every form of media they consume has said the GOP was dead forever for years. The most active posters have always had all the talking points at their fingertips, just look at Aaronology's fine work this election.

Just to take some examples, if you were:
12 in 2008, you're 20 now and first time voter.
15 in 2008, you're 23 now and you won last time if you're a Democrat.
18 in 2008, you're 26 now and never lost a Presidential election if you're a Democrat.

Hell, if you were 21 in 2008, you're 29 now, never lost a Presidential election and your first election was the Democrats grabbing the House and Senate for the first time in over a decade.

Even someone whose first time voting for President was 2004 is in their thirties.

And when you consider Bush "stole" both his elections, and the Democratic media wasn't exactly friendly to his regime, and the prior President was Bill Clinton. Plus everything has said for months that Clinton was a shoe-in and that Trump literally is a fascist and Hitler. Factor in how GAF in general operates on any topic. Existential dread is the most obvious reaction.

Which is why they're so eager to save the country by subscribing to The New York Times and The Washington Post. (Which they just spent six months bitching about for covering Hillary's scandals. And normalizing Trump.)

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« Reply #4266 on: November 15, 2016, 12:17:58 AM »
Remember, this is a forum built on brand loyalty uber alles.

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« Reply #4267 on: November 15, 2016, 12:18:23 AM »
NYTIMES is owned by a billionaire

Wash Post is owned by Amazon owner

The fuck are you saving???

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Well, did my part, subbed to NYT and Washington Post. Thinking of donations. #1

I never do this type of this stuff but i've had it with this crap. They gonna try and shut off the media when the heat gets too hot. No access if there isn't acceptance.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314675

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« Reply #4268 on: November 15, 2016, 12:21:30 AM »
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We subbed to Jacobin, New Republic, The Nation and Washington Post
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The bad thing about Mother Jones though is that their agenda gets in the way of objectivity. If I wanted reporting that's guaranteed to reinforce my world view, I wouldn't be much better than the jackasses watching Fox.

They're not hurting for funds though. If you're looking for organizations that need your real support, look elsewhere.
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Yep, I became Seattle Times subscriber earlier this week. Good on you, OP.
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You guys are warming up my heart. I'm glad you guys care.
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railGUN

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« Reply #4269 on: November 15, 2016, 12:23:31 AM »
 :neogaf

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« Reply #4270 on: November 15, 2016, 12:26:23 AM »
It's funny that they think Trump is going to try and shut down the largest forms of corporate media. (Which their subscriptions will prevent!) Like 80% of the reason he even had a shot at being President is all the free media coverage he resurrected his popular career with and then was given for the last two years as everybody covered every second of his campaign.

He's dumb, but he's not that dumb.

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« Reply #4271 on: November 15, 2016, 12:51:54 AM »
Not having an existential crisis but I am definitely scared a white nationalist is in the White House and I'm not sure why not liking that is treated with scorn or why you're shocked such a fact is depressing people.

I agree they're going after the wrong things but they want to help.

comparing their worries to participation trophies makes you look like a dip shit
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« Reply #4272 on: November 15, 2016, 12:56:00 AM »
Trump supporters - will you stand up against hatred and violence?

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I want an honest accounting.

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It's a simple question, and I'd like to know your answer.

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« Reply #4273 on: November 15, 2016, 12:57:20 AM »
 :dunno
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« Reply #4274 on: November 15, 2016, 01:00:40 AM »
Not having an existential crisis but I am definitely scared a white nationalist is in the White House and I'm not sure why not liking that is treated with scorn.
It's not the not liking Trump winning factor, I don't think any regulars here likes that. But compare your posts on the election, even when you were angry earlier, to some of this nonsense.

Even when you were angry you were making a pretty sound argument, and since then you've even argued against their type of nonsense to the point of getting a thread locked.

You're not living in their bubble, and even the fact that you acknowledged you were maybe spending time in a bit of one shows you're far more self-aware and not living in a bubble than the brand loyalists.

Besides, you supported Sanders in the primary. You're obviously not trapped in the reality based community that keeps failing to align with reality.

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« Reply #4275 on: November 15, 2016, 01:05:18 AM »
:dunno

What? You think any thread on GAF "asking Trump supporters" anything won't result in them getting shamed? The amount of gotcha threads on GAF is reaching critical mass. There is literally no answer to the questions posed in that thread that won't be dogpiled, then Bish will FOH ban them and everyone will feel better about themselves for 3 seconds.
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« Reply #4276 on: November 15, 2016, 01:11:23 AM »
Benji:

All I'm saying is give them the opportunity to politically mature. This was not my first rodeo. Been voting since 2004. I think you should give them a chance and understand their reaction even if it can be overblown. But let's be honest. Gaffers are not the only people affected by this.

In the Atlantic today alone:

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/11/donald-trump-donations/507668/

And

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/11/john-oliver-activist-comedian/507599/

Yes, six months ago they said publications like wapo and nyt normalized trump. Yes these are the same publications that buried Bernie. But they're still pitching in and giving money and trying to become more informed despite these publications going against their views. You said they're in a bubble but they're now trying to break out of the very bubble you said they're in by subscribing to publications they've refused to endorse. I like that and I respect it. So it feels like you're being hypocritical talking about gaf bubbles when they're doing the opposite thing they were doing six months ago. So which is it? At first gaf was in a bubble for being critical of pubs like WaPo for writing 16 negative articles about Bernie in 16 hours but when they start subscribing to WaPo en made despite that, showing a sign of growing political maturity to understand different points of view, you slam and laugh at them.

What do you want?

I think you are taking your criticism of gaffers too hard and I think they have their hearts in the right place. Plus it's not like they're the only people doing these things, but they're singled out for whatever reason. Give the kids some credit.
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« Reply #4277 on: November 15, 2016, 01:12:56 AM »
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The question is cartoonish, no one is going to say "No I Like Racially Motivated Assaults!!! Yay!!!". The response you'll get is people saying the media coverage about racially motivated assault is biased, and by the way there have been assaults on Trump supporters too. Given that you're not going to accept that response, why even ask the question? There can be no conversation on this subject, quite obviously.

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« Reply #4278 on: November 15, 2016, 01:13:34 AM »
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As far as charitable contributions, phew, that's gotten pretty intense since election day. Since the 9th I've donated around $1000/day to various civil rights and environmental protection organizations, depending in part on which specific unthinkable horrors get announced by the new administration that day.. My core recipients so far are: ACLU, Sierra Club, NRDC, Planned Parenthood, and SPLC.

All paid for by malware ridden, browser hijacking ads.  :lol

I can't fucking believe anyone works for this guy for free...
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benjipwns

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« Reply #4279 on: November 15, 2016, 01:26:55 AM »
Yes, six months ago they said publications like wapo and nyt normalized trump. Yes these are the same publications that buried Bernie. But they're still pitching in and giving money and trying to become more informed despite these publications going against their views. You said they're in a bubble but they're now trying to break out of the very bubble you said they're in by subscribing to publications they've refused to endorse. I like that and I respect it. So it feels like you're being hypocritical talking about gaf bubbles when they're doing the opposite thing they were doing six months ago. So which is it? At first gaf was in a bubble for being critical of pubs like WaPo for writing 16 negative articles about Bernie in 16 hours but when they start subscribing to WaPo en made despite that, showing a sign of growing political maturity to understand different points of view, you slam and laugh at them.
Well, I don't really consider subscribing to The Nation, The NYT, WaPo and New Republic as breaking out of their middle-upper class urban progressive bubble. Especially when one of these publications is a terrible offender of Democratic Party bipartisan circle jerking. They might as well get Washington Monthly and read more Vox while they're at it. So they can see the maps that explain history that includes a photo of a boat.

And I don't believe for a second that they were ignoring these major news organizations, they were just getting it filtered through TPM or ThinkProgress. And they loved when they were trashing Bernie just like they continue to do.

Even something like subscribing to the Wall Street Journal would be a better compainion than stocking up on center-left publications, because you have the more general news and then the conservative editorial. And the WSJ was generally anti-Trump.

Or just use this and your own rational judgement: http://www.memeorandum.com/

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I think you are taking your criticism of gaffers too hard and I think they have their hearts in the right place. Plus it's not like they're the only people doing these things, but they're singled out for whatever reason. Give the kids some credit.
Come on breh, it's the hypocritically hate on GAF safe space thread  :yeshrug
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« Reply #4280 on: November 15, 2016, 01:41:24 AM »
FFXV fanboys (not Final Fantasy fanboys, the people that have been obsessed with the game for the ten years fanboys) are having meltdowns in the clueless gamer/Conan thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224497959&postcount=258

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It's not a surprise. Conan is actually pretty good at pointing out when games are up their own ass full of nonsense. He hasn't been desensitized into needing to pretend that anime is good like most video game players. Final Fantasy XV looks like one of the most indulgently stupid and poorly written games ever released, so this is not a surprise.

 :leon

Everything he said is true.

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Himu

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« Reply #4281 on: November 15, 2016, 01:44:29 AM »
Yes, six months ago they said publications like wapo and nyt normalized trump. Yes these are the same publications that buried Bernie. But they're still pitching in and giving money and trying to become more informed despite these publications going against their views. You said they're in a bubble but they're now trying to break out of the very bubble you said they're in by subscribing to publications they've refused to endorse. I like that and I respect it. So it feels like you're being hypocritical talking about gaf bubbles when they're doing the opposite thing they were doing six months ago. So which is it? At first gaf was in a bubble for being critical of pubs like WaPo for writing 16 negative articles about Bernie in 16 hours but when they start subscribing to WaPo en made despite that, showing a sign of growing political maturity to understand different points of view, you slam and laugh at them.
Well, I don't really consider subscribing to The Nation, The NYT, WaPo and New Republic as breaking out of their middle-upper class urban progressive bubble. Especially when one of these publications is a terrible offender of Democratic Party bipartisan circle jerking. They might as well get Washington Monthly and read more Vox while they're at it. So they can see the maps that explain history that includes a photo of a boat.

And I don't believe for a second that they were ignoring these major news organizations, they were just getting it filtered through TPM or ThinkProgress. And they loved when they were trashing Bernie just like they continue to do.

Even something like subscribing to the Wall Street Journal would be a better compainion than stocking up on center-left publications, because you have the more general news and then the conservative editorial. And the WSJ was generally anti-Trump.

Or just use this and your own rational judgement: http://www.memeorandum.com/

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I think you are taking your criticism of gaffers too hard and I think they have their hearts in the right place. Plus it's not like they're the only people doing these things, but they're singled out for whatever reason. Give the kids some credit.
Come on breh, it's the hypocritically hate on GAF safe space thread  :yeshrug

I definitely don't agree with the list of publications Oliver suggested and I do believe I mentioned that but I don't know. But I like the sentiment of actually supporting and reading journalism. I wish Oliver suggested reading opposing views as well as international news sources. I dunno, maybe I'm spoiled. I remember having an assignment in college where I had to research conservative media news, moderate news, liberal news, and international news and how they all reported on the exact same story. Doing that assignment and seeing the same story play out in different ways was very influential to me but I had since gotten complacent and fell into my own bubble. I guess I'm hoping others stop doing the same.

I guess a more definitive list would be:

Mixed:

WSJ

Left:

Jacobin
Mother Jones
The Atlantic
Washington Post
NPR/PBS Newshour

Moderate:

Politico (?)
Reuters
Christian Science Monitor

Conservative:

The American Conservative
Real Clear Politics
The Hill

International:

AlJazeera
BBC
The Guardian

Insanity Made Flesh:

Breitbart

Don't have to support all of them. Subscribe to two or three.
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« Reply #4282 on: November 15, 2016, 01:50:16 AM »
It's sad that npr is generally accepted as being "left". Just goes to show how off the rails the country is.
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« Reply #4283 on: November 15, 2016, 01:55:59 AM »
I mentioned it before but John Oliver using so much footage from Al Jazeera America/English for his stories that are on otherwise ignored topics by standard American media is a pretty good silent endorsement of them.

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« Reply #4284 on: November 15, 2016, 01:57:35 AM »
Al Jazeera is fantastic and probably my favorite news source.
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« Reply #4285 on: November 15, 2016, 01:58:36 AM »
FFXV fanboys (not Final Fantasy fanboys, the people that have been obsessed with the game for the ten years fanboys) are having meltdowns in the clueless gamer/Conan thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224497959&postcount=258

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It's not a surprise. Conan is actually pretty good at pointing out when games are up their own ass full of nonsense. He hasn't been desensitized into needing to pretend that anime is good like most video game players. Final Fantasy XV looks like one of the most indulgently stupid and poorly written games ever released, so this is not a surprise.

 :leon

Everything he said is true.

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Still probably gonna get it day 1. :doge
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Nu Stump has been the best  :lol

I really wouldn't be shocked if he's moved on in a few years. He seems sick of playing internet babysitter.

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« Reply #4286 on: November 15, 2016, 01:58:42 AM »

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« Reply #4287 on: November 15, 2016, 02:25:19 AM »
what is this sub to medias that had no clue about the election shit?

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« Reply #4288 on: November 15, 2016, 02:47:13 AM »
FFXV fanboys (not Final Fantasy fanboys, the people that have been obsessed with the game for the ten years fanboys) are having meltdowns in the clueless gamer/Conan thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224497959&postcount=258

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It's not a surprise. Conan is actually pretty good at pointing out when games are up their own ass full of nonsense. He hasn't been desensitized into needing to pretend that anime is good like most video game players. Final Fantasy XV looks like one of the most indulgently stupid and poorly written games ever released, so this is not a surprise.

 :leon

Everything he said is true.

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Still probably gonna get it day 1. :doge
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Nu Stump has been the best  :lol

I really wouldn't be shocked if he's moved on in a few years. He seems sick of playing internet babysitter.

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« Reply #4289 on: November 15, 2016, 02:48:06 AM »
WOOOOOOAAAAAAAHHHHHHH   HHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

VomKriege

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« Reply #4290 on: November 15, 2016, 02:49:18 AM »
Remember, this is a forum built on brand loyalty uber alles.

And this is probably all there is to say about that PoliGAF fiasco.
As for that press push, well, good for those outlets. Call me cynical but I think it will be a short lived fad.

EDIT :

Astroturfers on neogaf ?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314657
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« Reply #4291 on: November 15, 2016, 02:52:26 AM »
Donating to WaPo :doge Why not HuffPo while we're at it.


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314405

I dub thee reverse Lime

One of the greatest 45th presidents? Well. That won't be particularly hard, will it :lol

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VomKriege

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« Reply #4293 on: November 15, 2016, 03:55:20 AM »
That's a sentence that has a ton of baggage, though, and everyone knows that.
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« Reply #4294 on: November 15, 2016, 04:10:17 AM »
The Conan thing is comedy and it's supposed to be seen as comedy, if you take it in straight Conan comes off as someone who's never read/watched a fantasy story. Dunno why people want to try and distill real criticism out of it.

That being said, not buying Final Fantasy XV, the platinum demo combat was garbage and that's not changing.

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« Reply #4295 on: November 15, 2016, 04:25:25 AM »
I find it cute that Bish thinks he's better than being a house distinguished black fellow.

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« Reply #4296 on: November 15, 2016, 04:35:21 AM »
The Conan thing is comedy and it's supposed to be seen as comedy, if you take it in straight Conan comes off as someone who's never read/watched a fantasy story. Dunno why people want to try and distill real criticism out of it.

I suspect because comedy is all they have on their diet really, so they lack the perspective.

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I think Conan might be taken in by the stylish nature of P5 if Atlus actually gave him a good build.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224509836&postcount=702

I don't think an outside observer is gonna see that much of a difference...

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That's why I find it weird that people here genuinely believe that a game with super shining previews from skeptic veterans like Jeremy Parish is going to be actually trash.
I mean, it really doesn't make sense at this point. This's going to be a mildly good game worst case scenario.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224502330&postcount=461

Never understood how (and why) people are so confident about an unreleased product.

Meltdown forecast for FFXV : Tearstorm with a chance of salt.
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« Reply #4297 on: November 15, 2016, 04:41:12 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224513022&postcount=1066

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Speaking of questionable depictions of Motoko Kusanagi, at the very least the live action movie is above this kind of overtly sexual nonsense.

 :neogaf

Overt sexualisation, very uncharacteristic for Ghost in the Shell and other Shirow's work  :expert
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« Reply #4298 on: November 15, 2016, 05:24:09 AM »
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I think Conan might be taken in by the stylish nature of P5 if Atlus actually gave him a good build.
I hope Conan-san acknowledges my favorite series.  Please validate my taste in video games senpai.

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« Reply #4299 on: November 15, 2016, 06:05:17 AM »
Conan would rip P5 even harder.

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« Reply #4300 on: November 15, 2016, 06:16:11 AM »
You'd think that after what happened to Jimmy Fallon that Conan would care a bit more about his journalistic integrity.

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« Reply #4301 on: November 15, 2016, 06:28:08 AM »
After the Great Media Purge of 2018, Colbert, Maher, Meyers, Bee and Oliver will be wasting away in labor camps.  Meanwhile Fallon will be drinking mimosas with Ivanka in Trump Tower.

Fallon's drunk ass had his finger to the wind and knew when to play his chips.  #FallonKnew

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« Reply #4302 on: November 15, 2016, 07:03:39 AM »
Not having an existential crisis but I am definitely scared a white nationalist is in the White House and I'm not sure why not liking that is treated with scorn or why you're shocked such a fact is depressing people.

I agree they're going after the wrong things but they want to help.

comparing their worries to participation trophies makes you look like a dip shit

I get being upset and even dejected.  I remember that feeling after Bush won a second term.  But stuff like that change.org petition is embarrassing.

Eventually you need to start to regroup and think of viable solution and really examine and accept why you lost. You fielded a shitty candidate who ran a shitty campaign, but you were in a huge bubble so any relevant criticism was squashed.  Bigots will always exists.  And running on a I'm not a bigot platform is the path of a loser. John Kerry had a similar strategy and got wrecked.

Mourn. That's fine. But there are better ways to fight back than asinine and ineffective online petitions.

Not only but there's a prevailing strawman that even thinking of a winning political strategy is now pandering to racists. GTFO. 

I guess Obama pandered to these "deplorables" since he won them in both elections.  This is what I mean.  There's a lack of self criticism and self examination.  There are a few rational voices here and there on the forum but it seems that many just haven't learned anything. 
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« Reply #4303 on: November 15, 2016, 07:30:22 AM »
i like conan. top tier of yappy yank loudmouths who sit behind a desk. colbert is decent enough too.

no time for the rest of them.
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« Reply #4304 on: November 15, 2016, 08:25:48 AM »
It's sad that npr is generally accepted as being "left". Just goes to show how off the rails the country is.

I don't think it's accepted as being left, just that people that lean that way are more likely to be big supporters of it. It has a very East Coast left sensibility about it. PBS gets hit with that also.


Also, what a laugh that Evilore donates to the ACLU. Must be to absolve some guilt for him.


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« Reply #4305 on: November 15, 2016, 08:27:30 AM »
The fanboy reactions to Conan making jokes about their precious Final Fantasy video game are quite enjoyable.

:delicious

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 :lol
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« Reply #4306 on: November 15, 2016, 08:54:56 AM »
That video has shaken my preorder to its roots.

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« Reply #4307 on: November 15, 2016, 09:12:21 AM »
I find it cute that Bish thinks he's better than being a house distinguished black fellow.

I find it cute that you're still trying
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« Reply #4308 on: November 15, 2016, 09:57:00 AM »
Can anyone remind gaffers in the "Romeo + Juliette" thread that the 1968 actress that they are reducing to fap fodder was 14 when they shot the movie?

gross. For real

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« Reply #4309 on: November 15, 2016, 10:00:32 AM »
If I don't get satisfactory video game reviews from The Bore, I turn to Conan.  :doge
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« Reply #4310 on: November 15, 2016, 10:45:17 AM »
Can anyone remind gaffers in the "Romeo + Juliette" thread that the 1968 actress that they are reducing to fap fodder was 14 when they shot the movie?

That'll probably make them even more horny.

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« Reply #4311 on: November 15, 2016, 11:08:07 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314921

Trump is Hitler now.  Can we cut the fucking hyperbole out already?  Jesus.
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« Reply #4312 on: November 15, 2016, 11:31:08 AM »
'now'

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« Reply #4313 on: November 15, 2016, 11:46:00 AM »
He's not Hitler but you can't really fault people for being worried. White supremacists and the european far right are over the moon that he was elected. Let's not forget that, at the first traumatic event, more normal US politicians implemented torture, arbitrary jailings devoid of most legal protections, clandestine kidnappings of foreign nationals and took the habit to order constant discrete military strikes with little accountability.

This shit can spiral downward fast.
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« Reply #4314 on: November 15, 2016, 11:48:13 AM »
Not having an existential crisis but I am definitely scared a white nationalist is in the White House and I'm not sure why not liking that is treated with scorn or why you're shocked such a fact is depressing people.

I agree they're going after the wrong things but they want to help.

comparing their worries to participation trophies makes you look like a dip shit

I get being upset and even dejected.  I remember that feeling after Bush won a second term.  But stuff like that change.org petition is embarrassing.

Eventually you need to start to regroup and think of viable solution and really examine and accept why you lost. You fielded a shitty candidate who ran a shitty campaign, but you were in a huge bubble so any relevant criticism was squashed.  Bigots will always exists.  And running on a I'm not a bigot platform is the path of a loser. John Kerry had a similar strategy and got wrecked.

Mourn. That's fine. But there are better ways to fight back than asinine and ineffective online petitions.

Not only but there's a prevailing strawman that even thinking of a winning political strategy is now pandering to racists. GTFO. 

I guess Obama pandered to these "deplorables" since he won them in both elections.  This is what I mean.  There's a lack of self criticism and self examination.  There are a few rational voices here and there on the forum but it seems that many just haven't learned anything.

Which change.org petition? The one ran by idiots who want to outlaw (and not modernize) the EC? Or the one that's petitioning Trump's appointment of a white nationalist in the WH?

This is my problem with many in this thread. The posts too sweeping and the posts too general. The threads I'm reading ppl have accepted the loss and are rallying behind the call for Keith Ellison. But then I come here and it's "haha gaffers still haven't accepted it, participation trophies;etc" it's like, what gaffers are you even referring to? Why not post a fucking link? Why be lazy and do it like Benji and give us actual quotes? I voted in 2004 too and this feeling is much worse than then personally. Your post comes off as insincere as if there's not more riding here for the American people in this election than in 2004. Are you talking about the people up in arms about appointing a white nationalist or the people protesting or the morons who want to kill the EC? Who?
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« Reply #4315 on: November 15, 2016, 11:49:05 AM »
Trump's a big enough asshole all by himself to not need to be painted as the reincarnation of Hitler, all that does is make people ignore you for lacking an ounce of sense, perspective and scale.

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« Reply #4316 on: November 15, 2016, 11:49:53 AM »
First some snark:
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If he does attempt to jail his political opponents and shut down press outlets critical of him it will be time for impeachment.
Impeached by his political supporters of course.

And now, history with SG-17:
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Franco, Hitler, and Mussolini all rose in similar circumstances with similar rhetoric that can be seen being repeated today with Trump and the alt-right.
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The book was about the rise of a Hitler-analog in the US, written before Hitler was the Hitler we all remember today. The overall point was about the rise of fascism. At its root, Franco, Mussolini, and Hitler all rose under similar circumstances, circumstances of which the patterns can been seen emerging again today.
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This is not about a direct comparison of Trump to the mass-murdering Hitler we remember today. Rather it is a comparison of the rise of Trump and the rise of fascism across the board in the 1920s and 30s
But at "its root" none of those, or any fascist movements, at all rose under similar circumstances to each other let alone to Trump. Unless your only criteria is that part of the population supported them. And you can apply this to all kinds of transitional dictatorships, including ones that were not self-declared fascists like in Portugal or Greece or the Soviet Bloc.

Hell, Franco rose to political power more because he was the only general still alive at the end of the Civil War than anything else he did.

And yet they were willing to back a social fascist rather than let the third period come about. :ussrcry

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« Reply #4317 on: November 15, 2016, 11:51:13 AM »
Let's not forget that, at the first traumatic event, more normal US politicians implemented torture, arbitrary jailings devoid of most legal protections, clandestine kidnappings of foreign nationals and took the habit to order constant discrete military strikes with little accountability.
The death of James Dean?

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« Reply #4318 on: November 15, 2016, 11:55:56 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314921

Trump is Hitler now.  Can we cut the fucking hyperbole out already?  Jesus.

Trump's a big enough asshole all by himself to not need to be painted as the reincarnation of Hitler, all that does is make people ignore you for lacking an ounce of sense, perspective and scale.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/white-nationalists-on-bannon/index.html
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« Reply #4319 on: November 15, 2016, 11:57:06 AM »
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Duke, who last week lost his longshot bid for the US Senate seat from Louisiana, said he plans on expanding his radio show and is hoping to launch a 24 hour online news show with a similar approach to Comedy Central's Daily Show.
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