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Momo

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10020 on: February 03, 2017, 11:15:59 AM »
One you stop thinking of it as a chronological flow and start thinking of it as individual conversation threads in a larger topic it works.

zomgee

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10021 on: February 03, 2017, 11:23:09 AM »
One you stop thinking of it as a chronological flow and start thinking of it as individual conversation threads in a larger topic it works.

That's very true but Reddit has a big issue with visibility. Once something like an AMA hits /r/all, your ability to interact is really over. A popular topic gives the same result - there will be six top posts with a bunch of people riding the karma choo-choo while your ability to interact is basically nil. The only was to get a conversation going is to subscribe to the particular subreddits and read topics as new. Which is trash.

High karma accounts skew the direction of the entire site because they 1. have high karma, and 2. try to get more high karma by sitting on the site 24 hours a day or sharing their account.

I agree that subscribing to refined subreddits is key, but the potential for interaction in larger subs like /r/politics is null.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10022 on: February 03, 2017, 01:35:37 PM »
A humble brag using a terrorist shooting... mah man ::)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229630029&postcount=49

Hey I'm going to London in June, pray for me.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10023 on: February 03, 2017, 02:12:31 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229657079&postcount=253

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White moderates are worse than outright bigots and racists.


lol.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10024 on: February 03, 2017, 02:17:16 PM »
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Dennis

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10025 on: February 03, 2017, 02:31:14 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229657079&postcount=253

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White moderates are worse than outright bigots and racists.


lol.

I am sure the "Hate Whitey" narrative will defeat Trump in 2020.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10026 on: February 03, 2017, 02:34:55 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229657079&postcount=253

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White moderates are worse than outright bigots and racists.


lol.

I am sure the "Hate Whitey" narrative will defeat Trump in 2020.

I wonder what Black moderates do politically different that stops them from being worse than bigots and racists.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10027 on: February 03, 2017, 03:37:46 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229662015&postcount=1603

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This is just very disappointing because The Whiteness was on my GOTY list last year.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10029 on: February 03, 2017, 04:06:41 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229665532&postcount=1692

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People who literally want to torture a significant amount of the population to death vs people who want to stop that.

 :lol ain't that some shit. We've gone from pepe memes being a form of hate speech to the right being "people who literally want to torture people to DEATH".


Dennis

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10030 on: February 03, 2017, 04:09:19 PM »
Wait, I am a Senior Member?

I am not that old.........

VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10031 on: February 03, 2017, 04:10:00 PM »
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Baiano19

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10032 on: February 03, 2017, 05:35:51 PM »
Man, NeoGAF sure went to the shiter with the election of Trump. Every thread in the OT is about politics, people outraged and whatnot.

I used to access and here that site to avoid politics, left-righr dichotomy and I my communist brother (who never worked btw) who was brainwashed by former Argentinian president.

I just want to laugh at funny stuff again :(

Guess I'll be moving to here


VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10033 on: February 03, 2017, 05:54:46 PM »
So some typical thread about fuckery on social media and flirting (or not), what does it all mean, wow her BF is an asshole...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229671156&postcount=31

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In 5 years you won't know this bitch anyways so why bother?

:dead

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229671725&postcount=44

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Deserved tag IMO.

Tag reads : Wrong wrong WRONG!!! Ignorance at its finest

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229671802&postcount=47

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Sorry that I'm not a loser on GAF that thinks fucking around with drama chicks in a relationship is worth my time. 😋

Talk about ignorance.

 :lol :whew
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10034 on: February 03, 2017, 06:08:05 PM »
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Man it's fucking hysterical how the only ones lobbing out insults, derogatory shit, and anything resembling policing peoples attitudes here are the ones acting like we're just the worst human beings around for daring to have a different opinion on a fucking entertainment product than them.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=229659935#post229659935


The human mind in an incredible thing.  The things one can force themselves to believe and ignore.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10035 on: February 03, 2017, 08:54:40 PM »
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Surprise, surprise. Donald Trump wants to run the government like he runs his businesses: By slapping his name on it and checking out for the day.

Let's just go over this again:

Fuck you BernieOrBusters
Fuck you third-party voters
Fuck you Mickey Mouse voters in Florida
Fuck you Rust Belt
Fuck you Baby Boomers
Fuck you racist shitbags
Fuck you Tea Party nuts
Fuck you Putin
Fuck you members of the press who enabled him
Fuck you Breitbart
Fuck you white people

Fuck alllllll of you for this shameful turn of events.

All right. I'm good now. Let's be constructive.

 :umad
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10036 on: February 03, 2017, 09:08:29 PM »
Man, NeoGAF sure went to the shiter with the election of Trump. Every thread in the OT is about politics, people outraged and whatnot.

I used to access and here that site to avoid politics, left-righr dichotomy and I my communist brother (who never worked btw) who was brainwashed by former Argentinian president.

I just want to laugh at funny stuff again :(

Guess I'll be moving to here
U have to be gay 2 post here tho
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zepblackstar

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10037 on: February 03, 2017, 09:24:28 PM »
Neogaf is a board of laci greens

before and after election


clothedmacuser

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10038 on: February 03, 2017, 10:02:33 PM »
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MLK-namedropping is now a corollary to Godwin's law that applies exclusively to civil rights discussion.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=229685244#post229685244


It's also strange how every discussion of WWII always has to involve Hitler.  What agenda do people have bringing up America's most famous Civil Rights leader when talking about civil rights?
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10039 on: February 03, 2017, 10:19:35 PM »
If someone telling you to go fuck yourself offends you in the slightest you are just being fragile.
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etiolate

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10040 on: February 03, 2017, 10:23:19 PM »
I guess we're nearing my I Have a Dream = nazi point

Jansen

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10041 on: February 04, 2017, 12:20:58 AM »
Official threads are bad enough but now there is the pre official thread shilling Blitz

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1340780

zomgee

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10042 on: February 04, 2017, 12:21:25 AM »
If someone telling you to go fuck yourself offends you in the slightest you are just being fragile.

If you don't nod your head and applaud when someone tells you to go fuck yourself, you enabled Trump.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10043 on: February 04, 2017, 12:25:29 AM »


I tried browsing 4chan this one time to see who the people who run the country are but I can't wrap my head around how threads are supposed to flow.

 ???

But how, it is literally all on one page and you just read from top to bottom.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10044 on: February 04, 2017, 12:39:52 AM »
Official threads are bad enough but now there is the pre official thread shilling Blitz

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1340780

Isn't this what they were trying to avoid by not allowing official threads until the day before release? But tbh for a niche game like Nier it's probably okay to give it a little word of mouth unlike some AAA sony exclusive or whatever that doesn't need any free marketing from the GAF hype crowd.

But the mods will probably put a stop to it soon since these things always get out of hand.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229689407&postcount=256 on a different note  :neogaf
« Last Edit: February 04, 2017, 01:03:00 AM by king of the internet »

Rahxephon91

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10045 on: February 04, 2017, 01:38:25 AM »
One problem with Neogaf now is that every thready in OT goes like this.

OP-Man my boss(who is a decent guy) is very pro-turmp. How do I talk to him without being a douche since I'm a normal person in normal society and people aren't simply good and evil.

Every following post:

"Oh just quite your job"

"How can you work with a fascist"

"God, I can't people actually voted for him. What idiots"

"Economic anxiety"

"but her emails"

"He's the reason America is dying, so fuck people like your boss"

Yes, Turmp is bad but honestly I hate to say it but just attacking every person who voted for him or even simply is not enraged like them does not help. There was that Howard stern thread where he(who was pro-Hillary) just had some simple things to say about Trump and people just threw mud. It's like people are complex animals. HS is not a piece of shit or a coward because he's friends with Trump.

VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10046 on: February 04, 2017, 07:07:46 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229698120&postcount=1

no1curr.gif
At some point the amount of "fly sodomizing" (as we say over here) over minute differences of shades in intent is really pointless.

Also obligatory :expert News Bot :expert mentions.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10047 on: February 04, 2017, 07:30:07 AM »
I remember when I thought "moderate" was neutral. It was the summer of 94, and I was just turning 14 years old.  It was a terrible year.

Olivia Wilde Homo

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10048 on: February 04, 2017, 07:39:06 AM »
Yes, Turmp is bad but honestly I hate to say it but just attacking every person who voted for him or even simply is not enraged like them does not help. There was that Howard stern thread where he(who was pro-Hillary) just had some simple things to say about Trump and people just threw mud. It's like people are complex animals. HS is not a piece of shit or a coward because he's friends with Trump.

I think my favorite phase of post-election GAF was when PoliGAF was trying to root out russian spies on the forum.  Their sole criteria was anyone who wasn't pro-Hillary enough for their personal tastes :lol

They've totally disconnected from reality and it's entertaining to watch.
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archie4208

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10049 on: February 04, 2017, 08:29:45 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229698120&postcount=1

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At some point the amount of "fly sodomizing" (as we say over here) over minute differences of shades in intent is really pointless.

Also obligatory :expert News Bot :expert mentions.

OP is small time.

Raist

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10050 on: February 04, 2017, 09:39:52 AM »
Watch out, we've got a Sarkeesian 2.0 in the making.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1340012

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Another point for the ‘status quo’-category: comments on how we’re already doing well and should ‘let the developers do their work’. These comments often point to a limited amount of positive examples to claim that the issue is not that bad. For example; saying ‘look at Horizon: Zero Dawn and the Last of Us Part II; they have female protagonists, we’re doing fine!’ while completely ignoring that we are only just now getting these AAA titles with female protagonists.

And that's right after debating the (apparently commonplace, in which universe I wonder) argument that games with female protagonists don't sell well.

But yes, let's ignore Tomb Raider, Bayonetta, PE, SH3, FFXIII (and arguably most mainline FF had central female characters) and many others.
Only now are we getting big games with female leads. Thanks based Sony :rejoice


VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10052 on: February 04, 2017, 11:09:45 AM »
Bish come back and protect us!!!!!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229657900&postcount=3728

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229657975&postcount=3729

2016 : The year Bish left
Donald Trump was also elected as President of the United States of America

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VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10053 on: February 04, 2017, 02:00:51 PM »
In a thread about "Foxler", a crypto-nazi furry

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I'm super deep in the furry subculture. I normally act as a background player, and a few people have taken my username for other sites.

But yeah. The guy is weird. Had this strange vore obsession that made a lot of his RP partners just call it quits on even contacting him. Plus he's into cub stuff (pedophilia) so he's scorned in most circles.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229714451&postcount=67

 :oreilly :trigger
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10054 on: February 04, 2017, 02:03:51 PM »
I told y'all we should've gassed the furries and the weebs a long time ago. :yeshrug
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10055 on: February 04, 2017, 02:10:01 PM »
Bish come back and protect us!!!!!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229657900&postcount=3728



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229657975&postcount=3729

And naturally, zero names given. But the totally real alt-right Nazi Trump supporters are totally flagrant with it on NeoGAF.com. They just post from another school. In Canada.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10056 on: February 04, 2017, 02:22:31 PM »
Xbox Scorpio boost improvements spoken by a developer: Hack developer.

PS4 Pro boost improvements: 3800 posts of animated gifs, based Sony.

Added bonus: low benefit from BloodBorne:

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So far I didnt notice the mode help like BB. I assume the drops are more about bad coding.
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Dennis

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10057 on: February 04, 2017, 02:22:47 PM »
In a thread about "Foxler", a crypto-nazi furry

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I'm super deep in the furry subculture. I normally act as a background player, and a few people have taken my username for other sites.

But yeah. The guy is weird. Had this strange vore obsession that made a lot of his RP partners just call it quits on even contacting him. Plus he's into cub stuff (pedophilia) so he's scorned in most circles.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229714451&postcount=67

 :oreilly :trigger

Burn it all to the ground.

Take My Breh Away

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10058 on: February 04, 2017, 03:23:05 PM »
Xbox Scorpio boost improvements spoken by a developer: Hack developer.

PS4 Pro boost improvements: 3800 posts of animated gifs, based Sony.

Added bonus: low benefit from BloodBorne:

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So far I didnt notice the mode help like BB. I assume the drops are more about bad coding.

Start of the week: "Scorpio will be shit because it might have Jaguar CPU in it and any dev who says otherwise is a shill sent by M$"
End of week: "OMG PS4 Pro is a beast! Based Jaguar!"

Oh Gaf.  :doge

VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10059 on: February 04, 2017, 04:28:51 PM »
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Diaper furries have always been a thing. People get annoyed (and rightly so) when they walk around with soiled diapers.

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There was a shit show at Rainfurrest where there were people being shits (lol puns) with diapers. People were leaving them on people's cars and around the con space. Rainfurrest shut down the next year and a lot of people think it was the diapers, but it was actually the fact that there was a ton of drug abuse going on at Rainfurrest too and the hotels in the area weren't going to tolerate it anymore.

Most cons actively enforce keeping kinks and fetishes to private rooms, or to their respective panels, but pictures get taken and blown up on Twitter, and muddles the perception up.

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Jesus fuck, and I thought they guy who shows up to our furmeets (held in a public park I might add) in the latex puppy play getup was bad.

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These bastards are really making me reconsider my plans for Rocky Mountain Fur Con.

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I want to be more active in this fandom, but *what the fuck*.

:donot

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This is one fucking nutjob

Sure

You could quote the whole thread.
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zomgee

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10060 on: February 04, 2017, 04:34:13 PM »
so goes the forum
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zomgee

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10061 on: February 04, 2017, 05:27:45 PM »
When is the mere mention of 'purity test' going to be reclassified as a neocon alt right dog whistle?
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10063 on: February 04, 2017, 06:03:21 PM »
furries

This must be your (and by proxy, GAF's) first rodeo with furries. ED and other places have information of some very weird things some subsets of that fandom are into. :doge

VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10064 on: February 04, 2017, 06:26:19 PM »
furries

This must be your (and by proxy, GAF's) first rodeo with furries. ED and other places have information of some very weird things some subsets of that fandom are into. :doge

I guess I'm vaguely familiar with this shit. Like I am with Sonic fandom. I know enough that I think they should keep that shit locked in their closets.

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The only one I'm really distraught with is "cub stuff".
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It's still a notch below that classic :
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1235877
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VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10065 on: February 04, 2017, 06:52:09 PM »
We'll be back after these messages..

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The Malwarebytes warning pops up over and over again every 1-2 seconds

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Just browsing here it downloads something called "System_update"

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There's definitely intrusive ads of some sort, going to turn on adblocker for a couple days then disable it again for GAF to see if its cleared when it's hopefully taken care of.



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This is unacceptable.
I'm sorely tempted to follow Xe4 in getting an AdBlock.

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zomgee

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10066 on: February 04, 2017, 06:54:16 PM »
LOL I'd love to see someone get banned for admitting using adblock on Neogaf.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10067 on: February 04, 2017, 07:01:04 PM »
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As part of comprehensive measures being taken to keep ad quality standards at the highest possible level for NeoGAF and maintain a safe and fast browsing experience for everyone, I've deployed tech that will monitor all the ad tags, desktop and mobile, for non-compliant ad activity to proactively block bad ads, and we're also rolling out a user-reporting feature attached to each ad unit that, if you personally encounter a bad ad that breaches the first line of defense, you'll be able to easily report any bad ad you encounter to NeoGAF's ad team for investigation and takedown.

 :lol

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Speaking purely pragmatically and dispassionately, yes, that's exactly how it's looking and I am not particularly expecting the efforts taken here -- which I expect will significantly improve ad quality as the systems get fully up and running -- to actually address the escalating adblock crisis as far as NeoGAF's concerned. Being an empirically evaluative sort of fellow and looking at the data available, that'd not be the smartest use of a hardcore hellish stretch of time to pivot into focusing intently on, so it's not the motivation for doing all of this. As ad quality on NeoGAF improves with these measures I do obviously appreciate anyone who recognizes that and whitelists, and it should be noted that doing so or not doing so is, at the end of the day, the deciding factor in NeoGAF's continued existence, but I can't control those personal decisions by the community. If the users don't care enough for the site to continue to exist, then should it continue to exist? I'm here for you guys and gals and could've bailed out a long-ass time ago on an extremely comfortable parachute. So it's a two way street, yeah? I'll be sad if a negative outcome happens, and will actively attempt to steer away from one, but I've been doing this thing for more than half my life in one capacity or another; I'm down to play it out to the very end of the road, and I'm full of pride and passion and nostalgia for everything up to this point, as noted in the 100,000,000 retrospective thread the other day, but ultimately it's always going to be as simple as whether the community wants a NeoGAF or not and how that is expressed. I'll keep the options as clear and fair and viable as possible, and then you press a yes button or a no button. Before adblock that was simply either visiting the site (and maybe telling your friends and such) and it thriving, or not visiting it and it dying. In a post-adblock world it has shifted more to whitelisting or eventually optionally Golding to maintain an equitable relationship and a viable community, or using the site inequitably and it ceasing to exist.

Statistics revealed by some top sites apparently show ~1% whitelisting shift when they've politely asked their users to whitelist their non-obnoxious ad footprint after adblock is detected in a clear statement that whitelisting must occur in order to continue to be able to provide their free website to their visitors. That's not an encouraging number. It's just too easy to never look back after pressing that adblock button, which is usually scorched earth internet-wide by default when installed, and it doesn't seem to feel like anything morally questionable to many people to use a free service while disabling the thing keeping it viable, and also much more justifiably felt to be so in response to being served a bad ad somewhere, which changes how the relationship between user and website is going to be evaluated by the user with that adblock button sitting in the top right corner and something malicious hitting. And, of course, as mentioned, it has become increasingly challenging to insulate NeoGAF or any ad-supported website from the decline in ad industry standards.

The rapidly dissolving symbiosis between free ad-supported website and ad-viewing visitor could very well kill the internet as we know it if the ad industry, websites, and internet users don't change the course together, and that'll be a challenge if a critical party like Google doesn't make a move to change some aspect of the status quo pretty soon. I don't want to see an outcome where only, say, 5% of existing ad-supported websites have enough user loyalty and adaptable business structure to stay afloat via paid subscriptions instead, even if NeoGAF could very plausibly be among them. That'd be a shame. Ads can be annoying, definitely, but they're currently vital to facilitate a lively, diverse, risk-taking, low startup-cost internet without every door leading to some kind of paywall instead and likely being dominated by a few big players even more so than it already is.

So yep, no matter what measures I take, and I'm taking all the feasible ones right now, all-in, foregoing E3 and sleep and real life just about 24/7 until it's sorted out to satisfaction, but it very well may not change any outcomes as far as the adblock crisis at all, fully acknowledged. I'm only working with top quality ad partners, having my ad team prioritize ad quality uncompromisingly, and incorporating solutions like the PubNation tech layer this thread is about for monitoring/blacklisting/user reporting of bad ads, all at significant expense and effort; doing everything that can be done on my end, and ad quality should improve by the day, and I'll keep personally handling reports in this thread too. But. Yep. May not matter to the adblock end in the big picture. I'm not doing this with the expectation that it'll reverse adblock uptake on NeoGAF, particularly. Not out of cynicism towards you guys and gals whatsoever; just given the statistics in case studies being as universally dire as they are, and the psychology involved in adblocking being what it plainly is. But hey, NeoGAF could very well be different since it is a community site with the nature of relationship between community host and community visitor/participant not being much like the typical publisher case study. Don't know. No data for a cost:benefit or any such business-minded eval really, so it's just not factoring in through a business-minded angle. A standard corporate entity would, pragmatically, just operate within industry norms for ad quality and then roll out some variant of all the upcoming adblock-bypass tech as it becomes available. That's the pragmatic business choice, but since I'm the sole proprietor with no fiduciary responsibilities, I can just do whatever the hell, which is a lot more fun and can allow for retention of some basic sense of humanity even within the lovely framework of capitalism.

Keeping the ads clean is just part of my mission statement for NeoGAF, and that hasn't changed, nor will it, and so I've taken drastic and comprehensive measures to uphold those goals over the past month of complete business restructuring in order to run the ads in-house, to my specifications, utilizing all the tools at my disposal. Whatever the percentages say about adblock use here (they're really bad percentages...), I can safely assume *all* of you know how to adblock and likely have some variant of such an extension installed, not just that particular overwhelming majority percentage actively using one on NeoGAF right now, so the subsequent assumption is that there are still a lot of people specifically whitelisting NeoGAF out of appreciation, respect, enjoyment of the site, accident, or whatever impetus it may be, so those choices will continue to be acknowledged, and the responsibility will be taken on my end in maintaining the site's integrity and standards across the board 'til such a time as that adblock percentage should start the final steps toward the 100% finish line from the fairly dire mark it's already standing on.

Everyone's working on tools to start an arms race about this crap, of course, and that's going to be a thing you'll notice on a daily basis soon in whatever anti-adblock incarnation gets deployed from website to website from here on out, but I wouldn't feel too fuzzy inside about going all Forbes on NeoGAF users, I don't think, y'know? It just seems like trying to force something that severe, if it gets to being that bad to seem necessary, that I'd probably be concluding in doing so that the users have largely decided that the site isn't really worthwhile enough to exist. I'm here for the community, otherwise I'd bounce from sole proprietorship of NeoGAF and do something else with my time, since it's not out of financial necessity or neurotic compulsion or something. I simply care about the community I've fostered and enjoy shaping it and influencing the video game industry in some positive ways here and there. But it's a two way street still. A two way street of a very explicitly defined nature, though, mind you. You're never, ever getting some slimy donation bar to fill at the top of the screen every month or any such nonsense, because I run NeoGAF as a business, on my own terms, as a necessary component of its identity and in being an uncompromising extension of myself on some level. I can cope with offering an option to equitably subsidize the ad model in response to widespread very vocal requests for the option and in being able to personally relate to preferring a token subscription fee over ubiquitous ads for a service I use regularly, though reluctantly (I never wanted to take money from my community after the initial gracious mini crowdfund to start it in 2004...sigh...), but I'm not going to go all fucking stretch goal on you, no offense to the people who utilize that sort of model; well, maybe some offense, whatever. NeoGAF is basically me and my stubbornness and values in website form, expressed through its vibrant community. Out of whichever of those aspects ended up being the deciding factors in NeoGAF thriving as it has and becoming the biggest video game forum, I'll leave up to you to determine, but beyond that I'll only point to all the former competitors, dead or dying, that typically sold out to big corporate, had leadership go absentee out of complacency or fatigue or straight up inability to cope with how crazy this job actually is long-term (who else has been hands-on running an enormous forum by themselves independently for this long now? yeesh, I'd like to see *their* psych eval to compare), or changed their values in whatever way that changed their site's identity along with it. Hate me or...hate me (I think those are the two options insofar as social media indicates), I just stick to my original plan, let it evolve a little over time as I go all Old Man as the years fly by, and see what happens.

As such, I'll continue both systematically and personally addressing all the ad quality concerns I can to make up for the ad industry's fuckups, work on a Gold option as an equitable alternative to the ad-based model for those who prefer that route, roll out all the slated updates and refinements for 2016 overall as they are completed, and keep NeoGAF NeoGAF, as ever. I'll make the user parameters a little clearer now that the choices and consequences are a little more complicated than they used to be as far as the site's life or death, but it'll still just be me making a website (with a bunch of amazing people volunteering or contracting every day to help realize it all and implementing my blueprints, without whom nothing much would work as intended), no donations, no begging, but also no transparency, and no committee, all so that it remains NeoGAF. If you're on the fence, though, I suggest reading Youtube comments for a few hours.

Anyhow, while I may make the decisions here, and that doesn't involve a committee and never will, no offense, you're the one that presses a yes or no button afterwards, and that's the real existential decision. After all this unacceptable ad garbage gets cleaned up and so forth to the extent currently possible and a likely Gold option introduced and so on and the choices are unambiguous, press the button that suits you and I'll sort out the rest.

Back to looking for these bad ads being reported here and deploying and bugfixing more new tech to get fully operational. Cheers.

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You can always PM me a manual bad ad report, or use this thread as a temporary solution for manual reporting. As a top priority I'm trying to get a handle on locking down all of this redirect garbage especially that seems to still be hitting mobile as per the reports coming in here, since it's among the most common type of malicious ad and pretty jarring in terms of compromising browsing experience even if it can't do the same potential proper "harm" in mobile environments that it can sometimes in desktop environments (like in the good ol' days of visiting a website that loads a popup that redirects itself to your browser downloading a virus exe, phew, even plugging in your ethernet cable on a fresh OS install was harrowing..).

Side note: fucking popup ads. Back when you couldn't do much to prevent them from loading and browsers didn't have integrated solutions and so on, understand that the websites that had them were making a conscious, straightforward cost:benefit determination in doing so, intentionally tanking user experience and potential traffic growth/retention over time, but to a ludicrous instant increase in ad revenue. IIRC I was getting offers back then of guaranteed CPMs on implementing a popup ad placement that would have resulted in literally 25x revenue increase per pageview on NeoGAF, maybe more toward 50x in the early and dire Adsense-only days. But for a non-forum site it would've typically been more like 2x or 3x; still more than enough for tons of sites to make that choice. Even if you have a unique selling point for your site, though, and people end up tolerating it and continue to visit out of necessity/usefulness, for fuck's sake, there's a reason it was eventually officially classified as malicious and automatically disabled by web browsers. Don't intentionally serve malicious shit to your users, regardless of the math. :| And yet here we are in 2016, Google now encouraging mobile sites to activate interstitials, which are firmly in the same category as popups as far as I'm concerned. The ad industry...

Anyway, all of the currently reported stuff in this thread is coming through Google's platform, far as I can tell. They're the biggest internet ad provider by far and have so many "partner networks" as potential weak links that aren't seemingly kept in check too proactively, so while at this time, even with our other ad solutions in place as part of a dynamic stack of quality providers, being a forum means we have a bad ratio of users to pageviews compared to most sites, and so just the premium curated ad platforms running can't fill out the the majority of our ad space (as mentioned, already compromised severely as it is by ad blocking currently), so Google's ad platform, which is the best solution available by far for filling out that giant gap, is not something that I can just turn off completely, or I would just drop it from the pool if it addressed these remaining ad issues being reported as I could with any of the other companies. It'll require some finesse, instead, gathering the new ad monitoring data and reports and such so that we can get Google's thousands of opt-in/opt-out toggles manually set to a profile that emphasizes only the safe parts of their system and discard the rest -- a NeoGAF Profile, I suppose -- since these things aren't exactly labeled "vulnerable and unsafe" or "safe" within the system; it's all just a big-ass opaque list. Very, very few websites care about ad quality standards beyond the broad strokes or divergences from internet norms that might impact traffic or revenue significantly, too, and so we're dealing with an opaque system with tremendous customization potential...but no information available either within the system or as reported by any major websites in order to actually perform a customization of it to our standards. Gotta gather info on our own first, but that should help plug the remaining holes, though it will also mean another hit to ad revenue with each element disabled. Is what it is.

Ad quality/safety should have already improved considerably now, though, with the new monitoring/blacklist tech, the addition of a proactive NeoGAF ad team monitoring the ads for quality and malicious activity, and the shift to a tightly curated in-house ad stack, all live now, instead of continuing to use a third party setup conforming to current "industry standards" like we had been doing for the past few years, and I hope those measures to improve ad quality so far are reflected in personal experiences here by the users.

Keeping on it until our ad solutions are confidently as safe as they can be, since there is still a lot more to do beyond just the initial rollout. And while the measures taken so far are extremely aggressive and done at considerable expense, getting to "far above average" isn't inherently good enough if the standards internet-wide have decreased as sharply as they have, so we'll continue targeting my standards, not any comparative one, for you whitelisters out there.

Thanks for your patience throughout this process, and look forward to a host of improvements throughout 2016, not just on the ad quality front.

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Just browsing here it downloads something called "System_update"

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10068 on: February 04, 2017, 07:34:33 PM »
When is the mere mention of 'purity test' going to be reclassified as a neocon alt right dog whistle?

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10069 on: February 04, 2017, 07:38:20 PM »
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Thanks for your patience throughout this process, and look forward to a host of improvements throughout 2016, not just on the ad quality front.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10070 on: February 04, 2017, 07:45:00 PM »
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I must be insecure because hearing the women filming it speaking in a language I don't understand and giggling automatically made me assume they were saying something bitchy about her.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229726268&postcount=54

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10071 on: February 04, 2017, 08:15:26 PM »
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These fuckers gotta be chased out. Anime did a fucking shit job and basically let 4chan set the entire tone for how anime fans behave and are seen by the world. I know plenty of non-shit people that are furries so I really hope this shit can be culled.

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Hopefuly the next General Assembly of the Animated Nations will have a resolution defining how to be a good kawaii anime fan.

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Your doctor, your co-worker, that nice lady down the street.....even your best friend could be a furry.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229728051&postcount=257

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10072 on: February 04, 2017, 08:21:48 PM »
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My god, can you imagine what Reagan and Nixon and JFK and Truman are thinking of Trump? And likewise what Stalin, Khruschev are thinking of his praise?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229730551&postcount=91

I can imagine quite well, in fact I imagine what they're saying is something like this :

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10073 on: February 04, 2017, 08:22:07 PM »
If you base your identity on wanting to be a cartoon anthropomorphic creature then you should expert weirdness to be part of your future life. Expecting some sort of conformity when that is your starting point is just... i don't have a word for that. Bewildering? It's beyond bewildering.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10074 on: February 04, 2017, 08:37:01 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1341010

4Chan's /v/ Viyda Game Awards

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10075 on: February 04, 2017, 09:09:24 PM »
NeoGAF: "STOP DISLIKING WHAT I (for contrived reasons) LIKE!"

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10076 on: February 04, 2017, 09:16:37 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1341010

4Chan's /v/ Viyda Game Awards

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This only makes me further appreciate our community here.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10077 on: February 04, 2017, 09:20:20 PM »
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What is this "alt-left" shit

That's not a thing, I don't believe.

This is like when people were trying to suggest "trans-racial" was a thing last year, right?

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10078 on: February 04, 2017, 09:22:41 PM »
At least the alt-right are smart enough to know that they're the assholes.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10079 on: February 04, 2017, 09:40:23 PM »

(Image removed from quote.)

It's when you click the link and see the avatar that comes with the message, that you know what a sides rupture means.

Was watching Married with Children and it dawned on me that one of the writers had a crystal ball and wrote a whole episode on how to prevent GAF's existence. Only to be foiled by a lesbian and thrown in jail. Thanks Marcy!

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