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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10920 on: February 17, 2017, 04:05:51 AM »
I also can't believe how stupid some people are

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10921 on: February 17, 2017, 04:24:40 AM »
Joe Rogan is just a fucking meathead. He thought Rhonda Rousey could beat UFC fighters in men's divisions.  :lol
Not to be a Joe Rogan stan (I'm not. I just listen to his podcast sometimes during my commute  :doge) but he later admitted (on another podcast) that he was being hyperbolic.

Hard to take that at face value when his first show after Ronda lost, he completely threw her under the bus with the typical MMA loss talk: They had shitty opponents, were never really that good, etc etc. This is a woman he had on his show and was literally in tears talking about how incredible she was. I 100% believe he thought she could beat some of the men, as he mentioned that on his podcast, on official UFC programs, and other podcasts/radio shows. It's not like it was a one off thing for a hype video. It was multiple times over the course of like 2-3 years, on multiple different platforms, often completely unprovoked.

He threw her under the bus AGAIN after the loss to The Different One, too, basically pulling the "she never should have come back, she wasn't prepared, she sucked at stand up, fuckin' goof" type shit that you'd expect on The Underground.

Eddie Bravo is easily  the worst regular guest he has. He ends up ruining literally every episode he's on by getting out of control hammered/blitzed and aggressively arguing nonstop to the point where everyone clearly is sick of him, but they let it slide because he's their friend. I get why Joe had him on for the Alex Jones episode, but holy shit was Eddie an absolute dick head to Joe's guest the ENTIRE fucking show. Even weirder since Eddie claims to be a huge fan of Alex's and listens to him daily, yet was openly antagonistic literally for no reason other than to be an asshole. He added absolutely nothing, and was actively detracting and harming the flow of conversation and topics themselves. If I'm running that show, I'm immediately instituting a no booze rule for Eddie if he's going to be on mic.


Regarding Rousey, Joe always does this. When he has a guest he "adjusts" his viewpoint to that person's identity and belief system. It's not exactly dishonest either, the guy is very openminded and holds many often moderately contradicting views on many subjects so he picks and chooses which ones to focus on with the specific guest. And yes, he uses hyperbole to do it too. I don't think even he knows if he believed it or not, he just said it.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10922 on: February 17, 2017, 04:32:33 AM »
unpopular opinion ; brendan schaub has become the most reasonable voice on fight companions.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10923 on: February 17, 2017, 06:06:48 AM »
Can't believe grown ass men are caping for Pewdiepie. Dude uploaded a video where he paid people to hold up a sign that said DEATH TO ALL JEWS, got shitcanned by Disney, and now motherfuckers are sitting around talking about context as if Disney is going to pull advertisers and moms aside and say "Well, if you watch the rest of his videos, he's not really an antisemite or anything, he just does jew jokes and screams about rape for the lulz." He tempted fate courting the edgelords, got bit in the ass, and caught the most minimal amount of pushback imaginable

 Who gives a fuck anyway? Dude is still gonna be pulling in more money than god, cry me a fuckin river if he loses a few pennies over some shitty, not funny racist shit


Bullshit.  Grown ass men are pissed off because mass media scumbags completely distorted the truth once again and purposely and methodically lied to the public and smeared a person who was only making OBVIOUS jokes. You're just trying to downplay this despicable shit.

lmfao

if i ever type anything this SRS BUSINESS about a youtuber shoot me in the fuckin head brehs

PS your avatar fuckin blows


You deliberately missed the point twice now. But nice strawman nonetheless, keep attacking it you're winning!

How's this for a strawman? You offer commentary as childish as expected from a simpleton who actually thinks FALILV is good. Suck my fucking dick.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10924 on: February 17, 2017, 06:07:52 AM »
I think Eddie rubber guarded too many bags of shrooms in his life  :playa  Whenever the subject veers from martial arts and Eddie speaks I'm all like  :jeanluc  and then the verbal fights start and I'm like  :hhh  Then Brendan speaks and it's the most sensible thing said in like an hour and I'm like  :neo

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10925 on: February 17, 2017, 06:48:29 AM »
pewdiecowpie is fucking stupid and unfunny, but not an actual nazi.
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haha come on son.
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« Reply #10926 on: February 17, 2017, 07:37:51 AM »
https://twitter.com/h3h3productions/status/832342208330113024
I watched the first part of the video and got up to where Keemstar talked about his previous job as a debt collector and couldn't stop laughing.   :lol :lol :lol  I skipped the rest and the vid was down a few hours later.

The dude really is a moustache beard twirling villain.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10927 on: February 17, 2017, 08:11:07 AM »
Can't believe grown ass men are caping for Pewdiepie. Dude uploaded a video where he paid people to hold up a sign that said DEATH TO ALL JEWS, got shitcanned by Disney, and now motherfuckers are sitting around talking about context as if Disney is going to pull advertisers and moms aside and say "Well, if you watch the rest of his videos, he's not really an antisemite or anything, he just does jew jokes and screams about rape for the lulz." He tempted fate courting the edgelords, got bit in the ass, and caught the most minimal amount of pushback imaginable

 Who gives a fuck anyway? Dude is still gonna be pulling in more money than god, cry me a fuckin river if he loses a few pennies over some shitty, not funny racist shit


Bullshit.  Grown ass men are pissed off because mass media scumbags completely distorted the truth once again and purposely and methodically lied to the public and smeared a person who was only making OBVIOUS jokes. You're just trying to downplay this despicable shit.

lmfao

if i ever type anything this SRS BUSINESS about a youtuber shoot me in the fuckin head brehs

PS your avatar fuckin blows


You deliberately missed the point twice now. But nice strawman nonetheless, keep attacking it you're winning!

How's this for a strawman? You offer commentary as childish as expected from a simpleton who actually thinks FALILV is good. Suck my fucking dick.


People have explained to you indirectly through jokes (as is the bore way) or directly (as is mine) that this isn't about youtube drama or PDP, it's about mass media scumbags using character assassination and outright lies to deliberately destroy the reputation of certain people and promote their agenda. This alone is fucking despicable and you're consciously trying to downplay these tactics by focusing on PDP.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10928 on: February 17, 2017, 08:16:56 AM »
Joe Rogan is just a fucking meathead. He thought Rhonda Rousey could beat UFC fighters in men's divisions.  :lol
Not to be a Joe Rogan stan (I'm not. I just listen to his podcast sometimes during my commute  :doge) but he later admitted (on another podcast) that he was being hyperbolic.

Hard to take that at face value when his first show after Ronda lost, he completely threw her under the bus with the typical MMA loss talk: They had shitty opponents, were never really that good, etc etc. This is a woman he had on his show and was literally in tears talking about how incredible she was. I 100% believe he thought she could beat some of the men, as he mentioned that on his podcast, on official UFC programs, and other podcasts/radio shows. It's not like it was a one off thing for a hype video. It was multiple times over the course of like 2-3 years, on multiple different platforms, often completely unprovoked.

He threw her under the bus AGAIN after the loss to The Different One, too, basically pulling the "she never should have come back, she wasn't prepared, she sucked at stand up, fuckin' goof" type shit that you'd expect on The Underground.

Eddie Bravo is easily  the worst regular guest he has. He ends up ruining literally every episode he's on by getting out of control hammered/blitzed and aggressively arguing nonstop to the point where everyone clearly is sick of him, but they let it slide because he's their friend. I get why Joe had him on for the Alex Jones episode, but holy shit was Eddie an absolute dick head to Joe's guest the ENTIRE fucking show. Even weirder since Eddie claims to be a huge fan of Alex's and listens to him daily, yet was openly antagonistic literally for no reason other than to be an asshole. He added absolutely nothing, and was actively detracting and harming the flow of conversation and topics themselves. If I'm running that show, I'm immediately instituting a no booze rule for Eddie if he's going to be on mic.


Regarding Rousey, Joe always does this. When he has a guest he "adjusts" his viewpoint to that person's identity and belief system. It's not exactly dishonest either, the guy is very openminded and holds many often moderately contradicting views on many subjects so he picks and chooses which ones to focus on with the specific guest. And yes, he uses hyperbole to do it too. I don't think even he knows if he believed it or not, he just said it.

I've never heard Joe throw a fighter under the bus like he did with Ronda. We're not talking about guys like 45 year old Anderson Silva or 300 year old BJ Penn losing fights and Joe being like "well, that wasn't a good fight for him, maybe he should hang it up, father time, etc etc". With Ronda, he immediately distanced himself from all the hype and praise he had lavished on her and more or less also shit on the entire division being full of untalented women with little to no experience and that's the only reason Ronda was so dominant. While there is certainly some truth to that, I've been listening to JRE since it started and have never heard him had such a 180 turn on a fighter ever. That's not the same thing as being a malleable host who conforms to his guest's views to get the best conversation he can out of them.


Maybe he did the 180 because Ronda was acting like an obnoxious douche before that fight? Don't really follow UFC so not sure about why he changed his mind so quickly.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10929 on: February 17, 2017, 08:30:48 AM »
Regarding Rousey, Joe always does this. When he has a guest he "adjusts" his viewpoint to that person's identity and belief system. It's not exactly dishonest either, the guy is very openminded and holds many often moderately contradicting views on many subjects so he picks and chooses which ones to focus on with the specific guest. And yes, he uses hyperbole to do it too. I don't think even he knows if he believed it or not, he just said it.
Maybe he did the 180 because Ronda was acting like an obnoxious douche before that fight? Don't really follow UFC so not sure about why he changed his mind so quickly.
If the patronizing duplicity from the first quote is an accurate description of his MO, then that sufficiently explains the 180, no? And I would very much call that dishonest. Manipulative, too.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10930 on: February 17, 2017, 08:43:01 AM »
Regarding Rousey, Joe always does this. When he has a guest he "adjusts" his viewpoint to that person's identity and belief system. It's not exactly dishonest either, the guy is very openminded and holds many often moderately contradicting views on many subjects so he picks and chooses which ones to focus on with the specific guest. And yes, he uses hyperbole to do it too. I don't think even he knows if he believed it or not, he just said it.
Maybe he did the 180 because Ronda was acting like an obnoxious douche before that fight? Don't really follow UFC so not sure about why he changed his mind so quickly.
If the patronizing duplicity from the first quote is an accurate description of his MO, then that sufficiently explains the 180, no? And I would very much call that dishonest. Manipulative, too.


You have to watch enough of his podcasts to understand, like I said he's not dishonest about it, if a guest starts testing his limits he'll definitely have an argument with him, Milo comes to mind for example. Milo was saying all kinds of trollish stuff in the podcast and Joe didn't mind until he mentioned he made fun of a fat guy in a gym. Joe was having none of that.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10931 on: February 17, 2017, 08:48:33 AM »
sloptimus is just the fuckin worst mane

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10932 on: February 17, 2017, 09:16:12 AM »
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10933 on: February 17, 2017, 09:26:36 AM »

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10934 on: February 17, 2017, 09:30:14 AM »
Room 2b at the Dharavi Inn.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10935 on: February 17, 2017, 09:30:29 AM »
Hilton never let me down.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10936 on: February 17, 2017, 09:34:53 AM »
The president's own, of course. Tsk tsk.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10937 on: February 17, 2017, 09:37:11 AM »
The president's own, of course. Tsk tsk.
Indeed!


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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10938 on: February 17, 2017, 10:50:37 AM »
sloptimus is just the fuckin worst mane

Yeap, Optimus as my username and Raoul Duke as my avatar, I specifically chose them to annoy you. :smug

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10939 on: February 17, 2017, 11:02:41 AM »
Suicide rate by race/ethnicity thread

Well I'm surprised white privilege isn-

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My guess: one aspect would be that they're not bred to withstand adversity as well as minorities have been historically. All things being relative, etc.


Damnit.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10940 on: February 17, 2017, 11:59:55 AM »
Suicide rate by race/ethnicity thread

Well I'm surprised white privilege isn-

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My guess: one aspect would be that they're not bred to withstand adversity as well as minorities have been historically. All things being relative, etc.


Damnit.

And Besada is in the first page of the thread but nowhere to be seen after the usual suspects come.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10941 on: February 17, 2017, 12:00:10 PM »
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When you think Hitler, you instantly think "yeah, that's the guy that bailed out the auto industry and promised entitlements, the bastard!"  :maf
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10942 on: February 17, 2017, 12:35:00 PM »
Suicide rate by race/ethnicity thread

Well I'm surprised white privilege isn-

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My guess: one aspect would be that they're not bred to withstand adversity as well as minorities have been historically. All things being relative, etc.


Damnit.

:gurl white men suffering disproportionately ruins the narrative. this is great spin, though.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10943 on: February 17, 2017, 01:19:17 PM »
God I wish someone would swoop in there and say "why are black people trying to educate white people about a white people issue?" "listen to the white people in this thread, you don't know their stuggles."

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10944 on: February 17, 2017, 01:31:12 PM »
God I wish someone would swoop in there and say "why are black people trying to educate white people about a white people issue?" "listen to the white people in this thread, you don't know their stuggles."

That would show them! White people are treated so unfairly. :(

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10945 on: February 17, 2017, 01:31:41 PM »
Listen I'm not saying that PDP's fandom doesn't realize people exist outside the internet but...

https://twitter.com/pewdiepie/status/832651199572647941

https://twitter.com/TraceOddity/status/832657272392134659
 :doge
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10946 on: February 17, 2017, 01:33:41 PM »


 :doge

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« Reply #10947 on: February 17, 2017, 01:33:56 PM »
God I wish someone would swoop in there and say "why are black people trying to educate white people about a white people issue?" "listen to the white people in this thread, you don't know their stuggles."

That would show them! White people are treated so unfairly. :(

My post was a spin on the discourse in every thread on black culture/issues. When perceived white people want to discuss it they are dismissed in the same ways I referenced above. It's a classic neoGAF thing to do.

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« Reply #10948 on: February 17, 2017, 01:43:43 PM »
God I wish someone would swoop in there and say "why are black people trying to educate white people about a white people issue?" "listen to the white people in this thread, you don't know their stuggles."

That would show them! White people are treated so unfairly. :(

My post was a spin on the discourse in every thread on black culture/issues. When perceived white people want to discuss it they are dismissed in the same ways I referenced above. It's a classic neoGAF thing to do.

Maybe it's because white people have stifled those discussions for ages? For every white person that has something worthwhile to add to the discussion, there's usually a handful more there just to dismiss the problem because they have no perspective and it doesn't effect their lives personally.

I see that you're trying to point out a double standard here, but it's not really comparable when you factor in the centuries of oppression and everything.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10949 on: February 17, 2017, 01:45:07 PM »
God I wish someone would swoop in there and say "why are black people trying to educate white people about a white people issue?" "listen to the white people in this thread, you don't know their stuggles."

That would show them! White people are treated so unfairly. :(

My post was a spin on the discourse in every thread on black culture/issues. When perceived white people want to discuss it they are dismissed in the same ways I referenced above. It's a classic neoGAF thing to do.

Maybe it's because white people have stifled those discussions for ages? For every white person that has something worthwhile to add to the discussion, there's usually a handful more there just to dismiss the problem because they have no perspective and it doesn't effect their lives personally.

And blacks do on the white suicide rate?  :doge "LOL THEY DON'T KNOW OPPRESSION" is healthy discussion? :doge

 :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge :doge

(Bold is what I'm getting at basically)

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10950 on: February 17, 2017, 01:48:45 PM »
God I wish someone would swoop in there and say "why are black people trying to educate white people about a white people issue?" "listen to the white people in this thread, you don't know their stuggles."

That would show them! White people are treated so unfairly. :(

My post was a spin on the discourse in every thread on black culture/issues. When perceived white people want to discuss it they are dismissed in the same ways I referenced above. It's a classic neoGAF thing to do.

Maybe it's because white people have stifled those discussions for ages? For every white person that has something worthwhile to add to the discussion, there's usually a handful more there just to dismiss the problem because they have no perspective and it doesn't effect their lives personally.

I see that you're trying to point out a double standard here, but it's not really comparable when you factor in the centuries of oppression and everything. Tbh you just sound butthurt about the whole thing.

lol so butthurt, you have no idea.  :doge

So the oppression of black people gives them insight into white issues that don't affect them personally?  :itagaki

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« Reply #10951 on: February 17, 2017, 01:49:55 PM »
A black person's opinion on white suicide rates in the US is a little different than a privileged white person's opinion on prejudice and systematic oppression towards people of color imo. I don't see how the two subjects are remotely comparable. Again, this just comes off like a lame attempt at pointing out a double standard when really you're just butthurt about being told that your perspective has no value (and is possibly counter productive) when it comes to certain conversations. No offense btw.  :)
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« Reply #10952 on: February 17, 2017, 01:56:11 PM »
A black person's opinion on suicide rates in the US is a little different than a privileged white person's opinion on prejudice and systematic oppression towards people of color imo. I don't see how the two subjects are remotely comparable. Again, this just comes off like a lame attempt at pointing out a double standard when really you're just butthurt about being told that your perspective has no value (and is possibly counter productive) when it comes to certain conversations. No offense btw.  :)

No offense taken! But it's absolutely a double standard, it's clear people have no idea what they are talking about in that thread when all they can say is "white fragility" and "toxic masculinity". Either races don't discuss each others struggles *at all* or we get equality. Choose one.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10953 on: February 17, 2017, 01:58:04 PM »
X suffer more than Y do.

Note that this is coming from the same forum that want that mental health is treated more seriously or often discuss how suicide is not a "weak solution"
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« Reply #10954 on: February 17, 2017, 01:59:18 PM »
All suffering is relative. One man's getting shot by a cop while walking down the street is another man's being permabanned from a videogame internet message board.
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« Reply #10955 on: February 17, 2017, 02:04:50 PM »
A black person's opinion on white suicide rates in the US is a little different than a privileged white person's opinion on prejudice and systematic oppression towards people of color imo.

I really don't give a shit about the privilege or difference between the two. If you can't see the double-standard being bad, I dunno what to tell you. You can't sit there and discredit other folks opinions because "oh they don't understand" and then turn around and pull the same shit they're (as you're perceiving them to be) doing. It simply can not work like that.

:yeshrug :idont I'm just saying.

It's something that drives me crazy with those sorts of discussions. When it's "x" race that has problems, "y, z..." races fall over themselves to discredit it and/or mock it. The circle goes around and around and around... All of them are completely awful.

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« Reply #10956 on: February 17, 2017, 02:06:55 PM »
All suffering is relative. One man's getting by a cop while walking down the street is another man's being permabanned from a videogame internet message board.

To bad I live in a country with a high probability of being killed by random corrupt cops regardless of race because there is even less check and balances.

Being honest, my big issue is how the same people that call out other because using mental illnesses as adjectives are relatively silent when users imply that suicide is about being " born tough or not".
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« Reply #10957 on: February 17, 2017, 02:39:21 PM »
Maybe it's because white people have stifled those discussions for ages? For every white person that has something worthwhile to add to the discussion, there's usually a handful more there just to dismiss the problem because they have no perspective and it doesn't effect their lives personally.

I see that you're trying to point out a double standard here, but it's not really comparable when you factor in the centuries of oppression and everything.
I agree with this.

At the same time, for this specific discussion, depression and suicide are often mischaracterized as a sign of "weakness" and that perception leads to all kinds of issues. The biggest one being those most desperately in need of outside professional help not reaching out to get it. To come into a thread mostly dealing with mental illness and suicide, which I think are generally misunderstood by a large segment of the population to the detriment of those suffering, and to immediately jump into a discussion of white fragility can easily been seen as either insensitive or as far as NeoGAF goes, purposefully inflammatory. Not because it isn't a part of equation but because making it the focus of the discussion completely misses what should be the point.

Basically that topic, like many others, is one NeoGAF as a whole couldn't even begin to do any justice or give deeper insight into (a few posters probably could but most of the good ones don't waste their time) because it requires a deft touch and a base level of understanding they just don't fucking have. 

I do agree there isn't a double standard here because I don't think the situations are similar.  White folks clumsily whitesplaining racial issues to PoC or stumbling over themselves to handwave away institutional racism will always have a very different connotation for the reasons you've mentioned.

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« Reply #10958 on: February 17, 2017, 02:58:53 PM »
Very well said!

I feel like this is one of those "gray areas" that cannot be forced into a simple world view. "If A then B" or "If NOT A then B" cannot possibly apply to something as broad and delicate as mental illness.

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« Reply #10959 on: February 17, 2017, 03:02:40 PM »
Maybe it's because white people have stifled those discussions for ages? For every white person that has something worthwhile to add to the discussion, there's usually a handful more there just to dismiss the problem because they have no perspective and it doesn't effect their lives personally.

I see that you're trying to point out a double standard here, but it's not really comparable when you factor in the centuries of oppression and everything.
I agree with this.

At the same time, for this specific discussion, depression and suicide are often mischaracterized as a sign of "weakness" and that perception leads to all kinds of issues. The biggest one being those most desperately in need of outside professional help not reaching out to get it. To come into a thread mostly dealing with mental illness and suicide, which I think are generally misunderstood by a large segment of the population to the detriment of those suffering, and to immediately jump into a discussion of white fragility can easily been seen as either insensitive or as far as NeoGAF goes, purposefully inflammatory. Not because it isn't a part of equation but because making it the focus of the discussion completely misses what should be the point.

Basically that topic, like many others, is one NeoGAF as a whole couldn't even begin to do any justice or give deeper insight into (a few posters probably could but most of the good ones don't waste their time) because it requires a deft touch and a base level of understanding they just don't fucking have. 

I do agree there isn't a double standard here because I don't think the situations are similar.  White folks clumsily whitesplaining racial issues to PoC or stumbling over themselves to handwave away institutional racism will always have a very different connotation for the reasons you've mentioned.

I agree with mostly all but people also tend to think that every PoC situation is similar to the U.S. That doesn't mean that stuff like White Privilege doesn't exist (because it exist, specially in a post globalization world) but people tend to use it as a catch all term or for outright dismiss problems.

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« Reply #10960 on: February 17, 2017, 03:03:52 PM »
Maybe it's because white people have stifled those discussions for ages? For every white person that has something worthwhile to add to the discussion, there's usually a handful more there just to dismiss the problem because they have no perspective and it doesn't effect their lives personally.

I see that you're trying to point out a double standard here, but it's not really comparable when you factor in the centuries of oppression and everything.
I agree with this.

At the same time, for this specific discussion, depression and suicide are often mischaracterized as a sign of "weakness" and that perception leads to all kinds of issues. The biggest one being those most desperately in need of outside professional help not reaching out to get it. To come into a thread mostly dealing with mental illness and suicide, which I think are generally misunderstood by a large segment of the population to the detriment of those suffering, and to immediately jump into a discussion of white fragility can easily been seen as either insensitive or as far as NeoGAF goes, purposefully inflammatory. Not because it isn't a part of equation but because making it the focus of the discussion completely misses what should be the point.

Basically that topic, like many others, is one NeoGAF as a whole couldn't even begin to do any justice or give deeper insight into (a few posters probably could but most of the good ones don't waste their time) because it requires a deft touch and a base level of understanding they just don't fucking have. 

I do agree there isn't a double standard here because I don't think the situations are similar.  White folks clumsily whitesplaining racial issues to PoC or stumbling over themselves to handwave away institutional racism will always have a very different connotation for the reasons you've mentioned.

I agree with mostly all but people also tend to think that every PoC situation is similar to the U.S. That doesn't mean that stuff like White Privilege doesn't exist (because it exist, specially in a post globalization world) but people tend to use it as a catch all term or for outright dismiss problems.

There has to be room and opportunity for nuance in discussion. If the conversation is with sledgehammers, then that thread is the result.
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Cascade

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10961 on: February 17, 2017, 03:08:16 PM »
Do we still not know what happened with Bish?

zomgee

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10962 on: February 17, 2017, 03:08:18 PM »
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Raist

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10963 on: February 17, 2017, 03:33:26 PM »
I just find it fairly interesting that on a forum with a massive mental health thread, and countless members talking about / considering suicide, people are getting away with "white ppl so weak lulz" in that thread. But then again it's the usual suspects, so...


Do we still not know what happened with Bish?

Who cares?

FStop7

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10964 on: February 17, 2017, 03:36:35 PM »
Do we still not know what happened with Bish?

He should launch a Kickstarter.  Pay him 10 grand and he'll reveal what happened.

studyguy

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10965 on: February 17, 2017, 04:13:15 PM »
So it's like the apocalypse right now in southern California with this rain. Literal wall of water outside for me for hours now.
Send help, we don't know what a season is.
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VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10966 on: February 17, 2017, 05:07:40 PM »
ὕβρις


Syph

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XO

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10969 on: February 17, 2017, 10:20:27 PM »
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When you think Hitler, you instantly think "yeah, that's the guy that bailed out the auto industry and promised entitlements, the bastard!"  :maf
They forgot how Hitler also rose to the highest office in a country he wasn't from.

Also, he had black ancestors.

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10970 on: February 17, 2017, 10:21:00 PM »
I just find it fairly interesting that on a forum with a massive mental health thread
have you ever looked at that thing :holeup

Baiano19

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10971 on: February 17, 2017, 10:28:19 PM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1344778

Now that's a distinguished mentally-challenged thread

clothedmacuser

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10972 on: February 17, 2017, 10:36:11 PM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1344778

Now that's a distinguished mentally-challenged thread

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helios

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10973 on: February 17, 2017, 10:36:29 PM »
Those lame, dumb, stupid, idiots.

Atramental

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10974 on: February 17, 2017, 10:58:13 PM »
NeoGAF: Nexus of Windowlickers  :PP

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10975 on: February 17, 2017, 11:25:29 PM »
Recently you read about the dangers of normalizing hate speech, but this is also an issue that few seem to be aware of.

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10976 on: February 17, 2017, 11:29:44 PM »
Quote
The thing is, while there's a lot of people who will argue that there are plenty of legitimate uses of the word "distinguished mentally-challenged fellow" as a way to justify their use of it, deep down they know full well that when someone calls another person a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow they are doing so in a way which equates them as someone with diminished mental capacity. They're not suddenly referring to chemical or engineering degradation of properties, or equating them to engine brakes, they're equating them to someone with a serious mental condition.

I fully admit that I have to stop myself from using this sometimes because I grew up at a time when this was a common insult to fling around. It sucks, and I imagine everyone's going to have to go through that at some point in their life.

bluemax

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10977 on: February 17, 2017, 11:34:19 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1345124

"Also if it matters, me and Bobby Robberts have also already seen the film (we both liked it -- me a little less so). I'll have a bullet point quick review up as well as some tagged spoiler deets later on."

Triggered
NO

Atramental

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10978 on: February 17, 2017, 11:38:30 PM »
"Online Dating is Hard"
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1345199

It's not if you become a hilarious caricature of yourself (or of something else) in order to mask how boring/lame you really are.  :itagaki

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #10979 on: February 17, 2017, 11:40:48 PM »
From now on I'm reading all these "GAF lectures people" threads as if it's Dennis explaining to the gang.

Now Dennis, I've heard speed has something to do with it.