VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[benjipwns]

This post was a bad idea lol

Just out of curiousity Mess, you are a Muslim, is that correct? Well didn't the prophet Muhammed enter into marriage with a 7 year old? Do you yourself condemn that behaviour as well?

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia

Can you state the inaccuracies in that for me please if there is any?^

If you do condemn it then why are you a follower of Islam? I mean every argument I have seen lately involves 'If you agree with (insert person here) and some of their beliefs are disagreeable to the group think then you must be guilty by association' does this pattern of thinking follow in this instance as well?

Or is this different?


And before I get dogpiled, let me just say, it's the hypocrisy that bothers me here and religion is an ideology, it's free to be criticised, unless of course criticising ideas is outlawed now?

It sounds to me as well that Milo may have faced abuse himself at a young age, hence why he is trying to normalize it, sadly these things are commonplace in the world and in all religion where it is easy to hide behind faith to justify horrible behaviour.

I find it morally wrong that Milo is justifying this but I am also questioning WHY he is.

Going well so far:

Gross as fuck.

Mess's religion literally has nothing to do with the topic.

EDIT:OH COME THE FUCK ON, you were one of those people in that other Milo thread saying that "intelligent debate" is how we stop people like Milo. Along with debating the semantics of whether or not nazi is an appropriate term for Milo. Nowhere to be found after it turned out that hey, giving hatred a platform doesn't make it go away and that Bill Maher made things worse by letting transphobic shit be spewed on his channel. -______-

"Just asking questions"

Then PM them instead of transparently trying to make a public show of it.

Then do it in a PM. This isn't a catch-all Pedophilia thread. Again, you know exactly what you're doing and it isn't "calling out hypocrisy" as you wish to frame it.

[daemon]

Haha so Milo's a pedo?  Unsurprised.

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I knew he dressed as the cookie monster for a reason.

So, it's rather about the feeling of a threat than the actual potential of a threat?

When you take a dump in a bathroom, do you not lock the door. Well the feel of the threat is what being cautious means. 999/1000 times no one would open, but then you get that guy that keeps trying to open the locked door where you go "wtf is your problem man?" lol

Maybe he needs to take a dump too and you could share. Just let him in, man.

No, i'm concentrated here

[Rufus]

But you got me good, I love the Socratic method

Yeah yeah. Bonus round: what about boys going to the men's bathroom?

[benjipwns]

Like, I'm really trying to understand how this isn't just you attempting to both attack Mess' religious beliefs and trying to shift attention away from Milo's pedophilia defense.

Hey guys I don't like these attacks on Milo let's talk about Islam instead.

Really? Really? At least some of the shitheads around GAF wait until someone mentions Islam to spew their garbage. This fucking guy.

Aaaand derail complete. Well done.

[daemon]

But you got me good, I love the Socratic method

Yeah yeah. Bonus round: what about boys going to the men's bathroom?

fuck. That's a very good point. Because this has in fact created problems. For the most part, when I see kids going on the bathroom, parents always go with them. If there's a kid(boy) only with his mother, i've seen no problems with women accepting the kid needs to go to the women's bathroom. The notion is that we protect kids because we do distinguish clearly a possible threat towards them as they're vulnerable. But when reaching adulthood, women are still vulnerable to men strength, so technically still vulnerable.

[thisismyusername]

Honestly, there should be like 2 Unisex bathrooms at a business in addition to the mens/women's rooms. Thereby a transgender person can go to the bathroom in privacy if one of the unisex's is open.

Of course, that's making more bath/restrooms than needed, but you know... privacy and security and all that.

Also I love how GAF is going in on him being a "pedo." Truly feeding that "all homosexuals are pedophiles" stereotype for them, it seems.

[daemon]

Honestly, there should be like 2 Unisex bathrooms at a business in addition to the mens/women's rooms. Thereby a transgender person can go to the bathroom in privacy if one of the unisex's is open.

Of course, that's making more bath/restrooms than needed, but you know... privacy and security and all that.

Also I love how GAF is going in on him being a "pedo." Truly feeding that "all homosexuals are pedophiles" stereotype for them, it seems.

I've never seen more bathrooms than needed, mostly because fellow men make 90% of the bathrooms unusable  sometimes creating a better setpiece puzzle than most modern games have... as to how that mess happened.

I've seen places without distinction. They have a shared common space and just doors with toilets inside.

[FStop7]

What's Opiate's take on it?   

[benjipwns]

This post was a bad idea lol

Just out of curiousity Mess, you are a Muslim, is that correct? Well didn't the prophet Muhammed enter into marriage with a 7 year old? Do you yourself condemn that behaviour as well?

And banned. Commence celebration:

Sorry about that Messi, you always been good people

Considering that dude was one of the "nowthetimetobereasonable™" people in the other Milo thread, seems it was in his best interest to try and fuck up this one too. Good riddance, on topic, FUCK MILO, super glad this backfired on him.

So fucking glad that kind of attention starved derailment isn't tolerated here.

[Rufus]

But you got me good, I love the Socratic method

Yeah yeah. Bonus round: what about boys going to the men's bathroom?

fuck. That's a very good point. Because this has in fact created problems. For the most part, when I see kids going on the bathroom, parents always go with them. If there's a kid(boy) only with his mother, i've seen no problems with women accepting the kid needs to go to the women's bathroom. The notion is that we protect kids because we do distinguish clearly a possible threat towards them as they're vulnerable. But when reaching adulthood, women are still vulnerable to men strength, so technically still vulnerable.

I assume that to be true for very young boys, but a 12-year-old isn't going to be escorted by mom, or feel particularly great about being dragged into the women's bathroom by her. We're very comfortable letting 12-year-old boys go to the men's bathroom by themselves. Why is that?

[daemon]

But you got me good, I love the Socratic method

Yeah yeah. Bonus round: what about boys going to the men's bathroom?

fuck. That's a very good point. Because this has in fact created problems. For the most part, when I see kids going on the bathroom, parents always go with them. If there's a kid(boy) only with his mother, i've seen no problems with women accepting the kid needs to go to the women's bathroom. The notion is that we protect kids because we do distinguish clearly a possible threat towards them as they're vulnerable. But when reaching adulthood, women are still vulnerable to men strength, so technically still vulnerable.

I assume that to be true for very young boys, but a 12-year-old isn't going to be escorted by mom, or feel particularly great about being dragged into the women's bathroom by her. We're very comfortable letting 12-year-old boys go to the men's bathroom by themselves. Why is that?

I believe it has to do a lot with education. And I mean education as the society education, what people tend to do. Still, my mother would wait outside if we went together somewhere, and for the most part, 12 year old kids don't hang out alone. I'm pretty sure a responsible parent would tell his son to not use certain type of bathrooms (bathrooms that are isolated from the place itself) to prevent things like what happened to cassie hansen. Parents thought a church was a safe haven, but the bathrooms were kinda apart from the place. Result: dead daughter. Then again, this is a case that happened on a 6 year old, but it could happen to a 12 year old too.

A pedophile once tried to lure me to see "the skateboard he had in his car trunk", I booked it. I was about 13 years old. And I've been personally sexually assaulted (if deep tongue kissing is considered sexual) when I was 5 years old. So believe me that there are reasons to care a lot about kids at any age. Any precaution is good precaution. Not to the extent of helicopter parents, but I will never take my child's safety for granted.


I believe that bathrooms on places like restaurants, shopping malls, would pose no threat to kids (or the transgender issue at hand). Then again I don't like in the US and I don't know how public bathrooms are for the most part. So it'd be a stretch for me to have a say in the matter.

[nudemacusers]

What's Opiate's take on it?   

FStop7, your particular situation is absolutely unfortunate, and I'm sorry. Really, I mean that; I am sorry you had to go through that.

But perhaps precisely because of the intimate personal affect this has had on your life, you may be particularly incapable of discussing this topic objectively and rationally. Not because you're a bad person, just because it has had such a serious impact on your life.

[Boredfrom]

Horizon Zero Dawn recap from 4chan

Bad mechanics
Shit AI
generic graphics
fog used to limit draw distance
gameplay ripoff of far cry, tomb raider
glitches galore


all white men are evil
heroes are one white woman, PoC and someone wearing a hijab

This game is gonna be goooooodd

 

http://www.giantbomb.com/reviews/horizon-zero-dawn-review/1900-759/

lol

[Joe Molotov]

Why can't science just make so we don't have to poop anymore?

[daemon]

Why can't science just make so we don't have to poop anymore?

This is something my mom theorized and my grandpa answered when she was just a kid. She found pooping disgusting, so she was like: why can't we just eat something like a compressed chunk with only the nutrients.

My grandpa answered how over the years our intestines would mutate to barely function, and given no teeth compression, we'd get deformed teeth which would eventually just mutate to serve a very basic purpose. The humans from the future would look like the ayy lmao aliens. And of course by the future I mean more years than humans will actually survive, probably.

[agrajag]

Simple solution. Instead of having restrooms where it's one big room with urinals or a bunch of stalls (in case of women), just have a separate, unisex bathrooms with stalls and a sink, with a door directly leading into them from the public location. The area outside these private stalls could be monitored with a camera. This would be more costly for the establishments, but eliminates any dilemmas of discrimination and also addresses safety concerns.

[daemon]

Simple solution. Instead of having restrooms where it's one big room with urinals or a bunch of stalls (in case of women), just have a separate, unisex bathrooms with stalls and a sink, with a door directly leading into them from the public location. The area outside these private stalls could be monitored with a camera. This would be more costly for the establishments, but eliminates any dilemmas of discrimination and also addresses safety concerns.

Yep. I believe the public perception of bathroom spaces has to change to something like this if they want these situations to work (referring to the transgender bathroom situation, which I believe genderfluid people want to be able to choose).

To quote Daenerys: i'm not going to stop the wheel, i'm going to break the wheel. The whole thing is that if we change the notion of segregated bathrooms, everyone will eventually feel included. Having said that, seeing the queue times on female bathrooms, it also means us males will die from a bursted kidney.

[agrajag]

Yeah. The whole locker room aspect of public bathrooms is problematic, and dare I say, even toxic. LOL. My idea wouldn't work in places like bars and clubs, where people would certainly die from bursting kidneys.

[FunSlower]

It's really easy to manipulate media, especially those biased towards the left.

[daemon]

It's really easy to manipulate media, especially those biased towards the left.

I think both sides are easily manipulated. The problem is that the left leaning policies end up in a crux where you don't know how to defend one without affecting the other one you defend.

Example: Islam doctrines and women rights. The left leaning policies saying everyone is welcome is it's biggest downfall.

[ToxicAdam]

I legit would have no clue who Milo is or anything he says without places like GAF talking about him CONSTANTLY. I still don't know the details of GamerGate, don't care about the details of GamerGate, don't give a shit with Milo says or who he is. It's literally only because of liberals that I know he even exists and he'd probably go away after a bit if they'd just shut the fuck up about him.

That's the tribalism game that politics is. They create these totems for 'your side' to focus on and stay engaged. They focus on outliers, people outside the edge of reason. Once those totems are properly villified, you then can use them as shorthand to demonize other people you disagree with.

The right does it too. Jerimiah Wright, George Soros, Bill Ayers, Rezko, etc.

Like Fun Slower said, if you're shameless enough to capitalize on it you can make a lucrative career out of it (coughAnnCoultercough).

[clothedmacuser]

Headlines from today

Video shared ahead of CPAC shows Milo Yiannopoulos appearing to speak fondly of relationships between men and ...
New York Daily News

Video surfaces of Milo Yiannopoulos defending pedophilia, ACU board reportedly not consulted on CPAC invite
TheBlaze.com

Milo On The Joys Of Young Boys Having Sexual Relationships With Older Men
RedState

Milo Angrily Denies Defending Sex Abuse: ‘A Vile And Disgusting Crime’
Daily Caller

Those are all right leaning sources.  I didn't bother posting liberal or neutral places.  It's funny how years of shrieking college liberals did nothing but give him a spotlight and in one fell swoop the establishment media may cut off his head.  The 95% of the population that isn't a freshman or doesn't visit very specific narrow viewpoint websites is finally going to hear about this "Milo" character and it's about how he's a pederast.

Old media go!

[clothedmacuser]

And done.  I wonder how many gaffers take credit for that.

[agrajag]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230672717&postcount=3003

[FunSlower]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230672717&postcount=3003

This is what happens when you mess with a 4'5" 100lb bull, Benj.

[Great Rumbler]

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And done.  I wonder how many gaffers take credit for that.

[Atramental]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230672717&postcount=3003

Trying to demonize Benji with Bore posts that aren't even his. Sad! 

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Shit! He has us talking about him again! 

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[etiolate]

You could just comment here Bobby. We don't ban for disagreeing.

[Let's Cyber]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230672717&postcount=3003

Poor Bobby.  The original thread died and only a few posters commented on the amazing revelation.  :'(

I wonder how many times he'll quote those posts in the future for maximum exposure?

 

[FunSlower]

If Boblet wants to make a difference, he should post here.  It would be a nice, little thing he could do.

[king of the internet]

If Boblet wants to make a difference, he should post here.  It would be a nice, little thing he could do.

Nah we good.

[Let's Cyber]

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Shit! He has us talking about him again! 

[close]

That thing was too big to be called an ego. Too big, too thick, too heavy and too rough.

[recursivelyenumerable]

Why can't science just make so we don't have to poop anymore?

sweet, the #NewModel lateral thinking is spreading. I take credit for this

[railGUN]

Bobby has mastered the art of quoting yourself.

[Averon]

No doubt Bobby absolutely love this attention. Got to wonder what makes someone as self-absorbed as him.

[FStop7]

Bobby is to Bore what Milo is to GAF 🤔

[Vertigo]

What a strange little man he is. Saving and compiling quotes about yourself from other sites? To use at at undetermined date!?

 

Seems his ego has to make up for his lack of height.

[Vertigo]

Simple solution. Instead of having restrooms where it's one big room with urinals or a bunch of stalls (in case of women), just have a separate, unisex bathrooms with stalls and a sink, with a door directly leading into them from the public location. The area outside these private stalls could be monitored with a camera. This would be more costly for the establishments, but eliminates any dilemmas of discrimination and also addresses safety concerns.

This is what a lot of UK unis have.

[Raist]

This post was a bad idea lol

Just out of curiousity Mess, you are a Muslim, is that correct? Well didn't the prophet Muhammed enter into marriage with a 7 year old? Do you yourself condemn that behaviour as well?

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia

Can you state the inaccuracies in that for me please if there is any?^

If you do condemn it then why are you a follower of Islam? I mean every argument I have seen lately involves 'If you agree with (insert person here) and some of their beliefs are disagreeable to the group think then you must be guilty by association' does this pattern of thinking follow in this instance as well?

Or is this different?


And before I get dogpiled, let me just say, it's the hypocrisy that bothers me here and religion is an ideology, it's free to be criticised, unless of course criticising ideas is outlawed now?

It sounds to me as well that Milo may have faced abuse himself at a young age, hence why he is trying to normalize it, sadly these things are commonplace in the world and in all religion where it is easy to hide behind faith to justify horrible behaviour.

I find it morally wrong that Milo is justifying this but I am also questioning WHY he is.

Going well so far:

Gross as fuck.

Mess's religion literally has nothing to do with the topic.

EDIT:OH COME THE FUCK ON, you were one of those people in that other Milo thread saying that "intelligent debate" is how we stop people like Milo. Along with debating the semantics of whether or not nazi is an appropriate term for Milo. Nowhere to be found after it turned out that hey, giving hatred a platform doesn't make it go away and that Bill Maher made things worse by letting transphobic shit be spewed on his channel. -______-

"Just asking questions"

Then PM them instead of transparently trying to make a public show of it.

Then do it in a PM. This isn't a catch-all Pedophilia thread. Again, you know exactly what you're doing and it isn't "calling out hypocrisy" as you wish to frame it.

"It's not relevant and it's not calling out hypocrisy"



I wonder how many PMs Besada got.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-are-redguard-not-welcomed-in-whiterun.513756/

[stufte]

I can't wait for Horizon Zero Dawn, it looks awesome.

[clothedmacuser]

Bwahahah.  In a thread about a self-promoting, fart sniffer, egotist, BobbyRoberts manages to come on even stronger than Milo.

[conradcervantes]

The "Milo book canceled" thread needs that Opiate L thrown in with the rest.

[daemon]

I can't wait for Horizon Zero Dawn, it looks awesome.

Okay, i'll bite.

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Stufte waiting:

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[FStop7]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230690432&postcount=613

Who let Opiate back in?   

[stufte]

Nah, I'm genuinely excited for the game. Not bothered by a cherry picked side mission as an example of the whole.

[railGUN]

GAF used to be the place for pedophile defense - what happened?

[zepblackstar]

GAF used to be the place for pedophile defense - what happened?

Gaf started trending once on twitter due to the mod that kept making those pedo threads and tyler cleaned house over a year ago

Plus Milo not the right type of pedo

[Raist]

GAF used to be the place for pedophile defense - what happened?

Obviously not compatible with the ad netw- wait nevermind.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230672717&postcount=3003

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[benjipwns]

Why do I have so many GAF PMs?

[zepblackstar]

Google search

neogaf pedo site:www.neogaf.com

About 7,270 results

neogaf pedo

About 22,200 results


 

[benjipwns]

I was just trying to help, Bobby, making sure you're credited for your posts, getting your name out there, getting people talking, exploring the new media paradigms of our open paths of communication, you know.

Ask Steve Youngblood for references on my career making potential.

[Averon]

GAF used to be the place for pedophile defense - what happened?

Opiate happened.

You could tell after he was demodded the other mods went on a zero tolerance policy on pedo sympathy. Likely an order from 'Lore himself. And I don't blame him. Having your cash cow linked to pedophilia is a death blow.

[Oblivion]

Bobby and Wario64 have more followers on Twitter than Evilore does. :O

[railGUN]

So Milo gets invited to Maher, and GAF is like

BOOOO HISSSS quit giving this troll attention

Milo gets said attention, and, as a result, loses speaking gigs and his book deal and GAF's reaction is

YAY! WE DID IT CLAP CLAP CLAP

  never change

[clothedmacuser]

It's funny.  All the online indignity, the liberal protests, the "literally a nazi," talk had no effect.  But one day the media finally gets a story about him worth running and he is finito.  Just letting him talk was enough to do it. 

Now gaffers has switched to saying "well it was unique and we can't let something happen again."  The man was Sui generis,a one of a kind political commentator who offered no ideas.  I course such an inept troll would blow up.  The kid who eats worms during recess always has a shelf life.

[zepblackstar]

Nah, give it some weeks or a month and someone else will step in to be a Milo type who pisses people off.

he was unique enough that he shamed a ton of people on d list celeb twitter to give him a following but he never knew when to stop.

The irony is this isn't the left doing it and the footage is on a joe rogan podcast for fuck sakes. Its not hidden

People pointing at the nevertrump cons who got pushed to the side not trying to take out the Bannon wing starting with Milo.


But Milo put on act that will be used by others probably smarter to not running their mouths as much

[Mr. Nobody]

I legit would have no clue who Milo is or anything he says without places like GAF talking about him CONSTANTLY. I still don't know the details of GamerGate, don't care about the details of GamerGate, don't give a shit with Milo says or who he is.

Feels great, doesn't it? 

[counterhit]

Nothing really reinforces how weak and juvenile schadenfreude is than seeing the most unbearable posters of GAF do it for a whole day. I think I went from "FINALLY!" to "alright, enough" one hour after finding out Milo is cooked. You'd almost think they accomplished something themselves even though it was their right-wing nemesis that did the job they couldn't.

They also seem real focused on the appearance on Maher's show, but the only reason Milo got on in the first place was because of the left-wing campus violence and intimidation. That ended up being a smokescreen for Milo, and his foot into the door. It only blew up in his face because the conservatives really didn't want him to keynote CPAC. A cruel irony would be if it was because he's flamboyantly gay (if not a walking mockery of Christianity).

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What did I miss? Bobby linked The Bore and then people freaked out?