VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[railGUN]

Maybe if a thread about Amir0x can't exist because it will devolve into how shitty the moderation on NeoGAF is, that might tell you something about the current quality of NeoGAF moderation. 

[Raist]

Besada

He was a shitty asshole of a person, who thrived on being obnoxious and in your face. I didn't like him before I was a mod, and I didn't like him after I was a mod. I was a user here when he scammed GAF and punched his mom. I'd have been okay if he'd been permed, but, like a lot of people who deserved to be permed, he was given extra chances, presumably because he went to rehab to try and improve. We have lots of old users -- people who have been here since before GAF was GAF -- and those old users accrue what appear to be ridiculous numbers of bans compared to modern users. It's because moderators try to take into consideration the frequency of bans, not just the number.

If guy A gets 3 bans in one year, and guy B gets 10 bans in ten years, guy A is a lot more likely to get tossed, regardless of the total number of bans. The process is holistic and includes looking at a poster's performance over a long time scale, not just one post. This is a thing a lot of people don't get. They look for the post that got them permed and say "this is much less obnoxious than that other thing" and completely ignore that it's their ninth ban for the exact same sort of behavior. And the thing is, if someone really tries to improve, we're usually willing to give them another chance. There are dozens of people using alts right now that we know about. And we've left them alone because some time passed and they grew up a little, and came back and didn't repeat their old habits. Some people can't manage that.

As a long time user, Amir0x was at the end of this process. I banned him last time for three months and warned him that if he acted like a shit head when he returned, I'd perm him regardless of how long he'd been at GAF. I've done that with a lot of older members that can't wrap their heads around the fact it's not 2001 anymore and GAF is not a hundred people who all know each other anymore.

This was, of course, before anyone had a clue that he was a fucking pedophile. Like a lot of our posters, we just thought he was an asshole. Like everyone else, we were wrong. It feels awful. It also feels pretty shit to see people using it as a way to attack people because they got banned off a video game forum and there's a lot of that going on. Amir0x was not popular before this, as anyone who ever clicked a youtube link from here ought to know, so it's become quite a holiday for those guys.

Which is part of the reason not a lot of mods really want to have a deep discussion about this. Because they're as bothered as you that he was among us. But they're not willing to take the blame for shit that someone else did. And they don't want to get dragged into the ranting and raging being done by the closet psychopaths who read GAF more carefully than I do so they can cry to each other about how terrible the place is a decade after they got banned. We don't get paid and we have no interest in putting up with that shit. If people want to talk about amir0x and their shock, that's one thing, but it's another when shitbags with an axe to grind use this hideous crime as a weapon.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=242230114#post242230114

Bullshit.  I was Permed for speaking up in a race thread and saying it's ok for others to not agree with everything the poli group BLM says.  You know my bans before that?  Calling a guy a fuck face in a thread about frozen spaghetti, posting a picture of a girl that I didn't realize showed pubes, telling Gaimeguy to stop being a pussy.

Bish permed me because he got high on his own supply.

I got perm'd for posting "it's a racing game FFS" in a thread about how the new Forza doesn't address the historical shitshow of Australia. After, I dunno, 6-7 bans in 10 years?

This line of defense of their moderation standards in recent years is complete bullshit, and you don't even need to know about his PM about their double standard to realize it. Of course lots of people on GAF these days will just gobble it up.

[benjipwns]

I got perm'd for posting "it's a racing game FFS" in a thread about how the new Forza doesn't address the historical shitshow of Australia.

oh god i forgot that controversy

[Himu]

Benji can you tell who wrote it?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238368597&postcount=1388

You've been here for over a decade, and during that time you've largely made the forum a worse place by being a mean angry person who demands attention 24/7. Projecting your own insecurities by yelling at others is not healthy adult behavior. I hope for your sake that you find something to belong to and that it gives you happiness in life, but you are not welcome here.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

oh okay, i didn't know the message had knowledge of your past in it, that's definitely an old hand who had had enough

i thought you were put down for calling the BCT onto the carpet

lol I think it was Stump then. They seem to be high up, and it wasn't Evi because we know he wasn't around. I'm just really curious why it was that post in particular. I said shit like "all white people are racist" for months. Said awful, terrible, discriminatory things without ever being banned for it. So that's allowed? This inconsistency is what we were talking about earlier. It shows gross incompetence by the staff that they don't even follow their own rules. I'm glad whoever banned me is looking out for me though. They know I have anger in my heart.

Oh well. I just got back from work. Tekken time! 

[TakingBackSunday]

Jesus Christ the amount of talking about this shit

Video games were a mistake

[benjipwns]

re: flat earthers...

If I ruled the world I'd lock up people like this. Oh, I'd be a bastard alright. But fuck me would these morons deserve it.

[benjipwns]

re: Amir0x

Sounds like it was handled admirably, no time for a POS like that and this is why Neogaf is one of the best places online. 4chan will welcome him with open arms.

[Raist]

When the first thread was created, it was not possible to immediately verify if the person was indeed Amir0x.

Ho I see the "We barely knew him" line is going strong already

[benjipwns]

man I remember when GAF was a fun forum to read

this is exactly the kind of dismissive defeatist attitude that lets the alt-right win

[Jenkem]

Well if I took off the tongue and Googley eyes, found a better picture, and put them side-by-side you'd see it.

The googley eyes stay on though. Those are great.

it's missing a RESIST banner

[bluemax]

Those goddamn moderate darlings!

Speaking of moderate darlings, have you heard about the newest wrestling heel "Progressive Liberal"?

[benjipwns]

I thought his act from the excerpts I saw was pretty clever.

edit:

“I understand now why you all identify with country music. It’s slow and it’s simple and it’s boring, just like each and every one of you.”

He insults his fans’ Appalachian accents, correcting them — “Do you live in a holler? No, you live in a hollow.”

‘If he’s elected president, I hope Trump doesn’t build a wall around Mexico. Instead I hope he builds it around this town so none of you people can infiltrate the population.’”

[etiolate]

I liberal heel would be great for wrestling.

WWE should just invite everyone getting fired from CNN and have a tryout.

[VomKriege]

What we think we're doing :

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What we're actually doing :

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[EightBitNate]

Not trying to turn your thread into Voat, but I noticed you guys talking and thought I'd join in.

Amir0x being a pedophile is just so surreal. It seems pretty common on anti-NeoGAF forums to call the major figures on the site pedophile sympathizers, but I always thought it was more of a meme.

The funny part is, when someone they deem "problematic" says something, it's pretty much pages upon pages of unanimous circlejerk-ery, but pedophilia actually brings out debate and controversy for some reason.

Just chiming in, love your emojis btw

[FreeNudeLyleLanley]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1399416

What's the one thing u own that u would be afraid to let people touch or examine

My internet browsing history and/or my hard drive

🤔🤔🤔

[Oblivion]

Wait, I must have missed something. Dennis got banned recently?

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I thought he's been banned for months(years)?  [/quote]

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[benjipwns]

It seems pretty common on anti-NeoGAF forums to call the major figures on the site pedophile sympathizers, but I always thought it was more of a meme.

Unfortunately the lead investigator into that was a poster by the name of The Walrus, who just up and disappeared randomly a few months after Opiate's downfall. It's almost as if he went undercover, deep cover, to try and ferret out whatever his suspicions ultimately led to.

Now the question is...did they get him? Or is Amir0x the tip of his iceberg and we just have to let global warming uncover the rest.

There was talk he was a master of blending in and running under alternate identities without anyone ever knowing it so for all we know he could be More_Badass unpacking the system from within.

It's probably too risky for him to pop his head up and give us a signal, sometimes you can never come in from the cold, you have to leave your true identity behind with no one ever knowing who you really are or were.

[etiolate]

come out of the cold? if Glen was a super spy detective, he'd make Jacques Clouseau look like a T-1000 Sherlock Holmes

[benjipwns]

leper etoliet, permaban Dennis, free Creepy Stalker

[etiolate]

HOLLYWOOD GOLD

A Pink Panther reboot with Chris Pratt

[Bulleta©™®]

Serious question not from a shitposter:
 Why did some the mod team constantly defend him through the years if supposedly everyone hated him there?

 Amir0x's tirades often led to people getting banned even if they weren't being shitty. I posted an example earlier of somebody arguing an honest, but naive, point to Amir0x and suddenly the dude just gets banned (Confounding Factor). And shit like this happens on the regular.

 When Amir0x fantasizes complete bullshit and acts like the forum's hardass he is consciously just left alone, in the event he does gets banned it's for a relatively short time and after crossing several lines.

 He is the posterboy of a "toxic" loser and he was continuously treated with kid gloves.

I thought he should've been banned 10 years ago or more. But nope. And I wasn't given another chance because at the time "Amir0x used up all of Evilore's compassion" or something back in 2010. So one strike and I was out. He had what, 7?

[Oblivion]

Serious question not from a shitposter:
 Why did some the mod team constantly defend him through the years if supposedly everyone hated him there?

 Amir0x's tirades often led to people getting banned even if they weren't being shitty. I posted an example earlier of somebody arguing an honest, but naive, point to Amir0x and suddenly the dude just gets banned (Confounding Factor). And shit like this happens on the regular.

 When Amir0x fantasizes complete bullshit and acts like the forum's hardass he is consciously just left alone, in the event he does gets banned it's for a relatively short time and after crossing several lines.

 He is the posterboy of a "toxic" loser and he was continuously treated with kid gloves.

I thought he should've been banned 10 years ago or more. But nope. And I wasn't given another chance because at the time "Amir0x used up all of Evilore's compassion" or something back in 2010. So one strike and I was out. He had what, 7?

Hello, Scarlet. Nice to see you're back.

You were banned? I thought you willingly left?

[benjipwns]

CA will always be blue, purely symbolic. This is the scary shit now cause it maps out the ground game for the Russians on the next election and allows gerrymandering to happen. Voting will no longer matter in this country. This is why the investigation needs to hurry because more years of the current trend and all confidence will be lost. Time to visit the shooting range.

[etiolate]

Scar got demod'd and left. She ain't got time for that shit.

Though I forgot to ask her feels on Prime 4.

[Bulleta©™®]

Answer me this, Steve because no other mod will. Who did the final ban on my Cindi Mayweather account? Everyone thinks it's Besada.

That'll get him demodded. Trust me, I know. 

[Bulleta©™®]

Serious question not from a shitposter:
 Why did some the mod team constantly defend him through the years if supposedly everyone hated him there?

 Amir0x's tirades often led to people getting banned even if they weren't being shitty. I posted an example earlier of somebody arguing an honest, but naive, point to Amir0x and suddenly the dude just gets banned (Confounding Factor). And shit like this happens on the regular.

 When Amir0x fantasizes complete bullshit and acts like the forum's hardass he is consciously just left alone, in the event he does gets banned it's for a relatively short time and after crossing several lines.

 He is the posterboy of a "toxic" loser and he was continuously treated with kid gloves.

I thought he should've been banned 10 years ago or more. But nope. And I wasn't given another chance because at the time "Amir0x used up all of Evilore's compassion" or something back in 2010. So one strike and I was out. He had what, 7?

Hello, Scarlet. Nice to see you're back.

You were banned? I thought you willingly left?

No I wasn't banned. But I was given such a cold shoulder I felt going to Antarctica would be warmer. Hitokage said it pretty well in a post he made before he died.

[Sman]

Scarlet? As in Red Scarlet from GAF?

[Verdigris Murder]

Empirical evidence is mounting that in fact those who blindly rail against gamergate and the toxic belief system of Islam are usually either regressive creepy childfuckers, or worse ((((Zelda apologists)))).

[cityhunter]

Guess something huge happened. I commented on why ModBot existed by referring it to CowardBot and the purpose is to use it to hide who closed threads with some snark ass remark to show the internet their power without owning up to it. Got perm'd for that.

Never cared for Amirox and his power trip ass modding

[bork]

man I remember when GAF was a fun forum to read

GAF, sure.  NeoGAF?

[VomKriege]

The politics of feels

That feels like an impeachable offense no? It should be shouldn't it? Like "Abuse of Power" or something?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=242244063&postcount=8178

"The Senate will now vote on impeachment for the count of abuse of power or something."

[Joe Molotov]

Amir0x's downfall even brought back Martin Raperman, what a community bonding experience. #Bore mods <3

[Raist]

Germany votes for 50m euro social media fines (Hate Speech, Fake news)

Germany - world leaders

Pretty sure a lot of governments have been filtering the internet for decades


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[I'm a Puppy!]

leper etoliet, permaban Dennis, free Creepy Stalker

Never has a post been so worthy of the newfeed.

[Klelk]

One of Amir0x's videos:



>Here's a method for gaining CP quickly

It's like poetry

[daycru]

So, riddle me this - why can't a thread dedicated to this fact, exist on NeoGAF?

I'm asking you honestly here: do you think that a thread on GAF wouldn't basically just go down exactly like this thread now or a voat thread? And if you don't, do you honestly think it's important catharsis that people be able to proudly deride amir0x as a worthless piece of shit on NeoGAF? These may seem like combative, rhetorical questions, but I'm asking them in earnest.

The entirety of OT is a VOAT thread against Donald Trump. There isn't bandwidth for one about noted GAF mod/icon being a pedophile?

[jiji]

The entirety of OT is a VOAT thread against Donald Trump. There isn't bandwidth for one about noted GAF mod/icon being a pedophile?

 

[Mr. Nobody]

Bish had been doing that for awhile. I don't see why they'd suddenly care about it.

Evilore finally felt his ad money getting shorter.

[benjipwns]

World should come together and sanction the fuck out of the US until this idiot is gone.

that's the spirit!

[bork]

It takes nothing.  You don't have to violate any rules.  There are no rules.  Have a mod dislike you.  That's it.

That's how it has been since day one. 

[Great Rumbler]

So what happened with Ami's drug arrest? Did it get resolved or is it still an on-going issue?

[Mr Gilhaney]

Serious question not from a shitposter:
 Why did some the mod team constantly defend him through the years if supposedly everyone hated him there?

 Amir0x's tirades often led to people getting banned even if they weren't being shitty. I posted an example earlier of somebody arguing an honest, but naive, point to Amir0x and suddenly the dude just gets banned (Confounding Factor). And shit like this happens on the regular.

 When Amir0x fantasizes complete bullshit and acts like the forum's hardass he is consciously just left alone, in the event he does gets banned it's for a relatively short time and after crossing several lines.

 He is the posterboy of a "toxic" loser and he was continuously treated with kid gloves.

I thought he should've been banned 10 years ago or more. But nope. And I wasn't given another chance because at the time "Amir0x used up all of Evilore's compassion" or something back in 2010. So one strike and I was out. He had what, 7?

Hello, Scarlet. Nice to see you're back.

You were banned? I thought you willingly left?

No I wasn't banned. But I was given such a cold shoulder I felt going to Antarctica would be warmer. Hitokage said it pretty well in a post he made before he died.

Good. #justiceforsupahblah

[cityhunter]

man I remember when GAF was a fun forum to read

GAF, sure.  NeoGAF?

Sure, I think that it was pretty fun around early 00 era?

[Himu]

man I remember when GAF was a fun forum to read

GAF, sure.  NeoGAF?

Sure, I think that it was pretty fun around early 00 era?

his point is that gaf used to be gaming age forums, as owned by gaming-age.com and Jim.

Evi bought it and it was gaming age forums still for a while, but then shifted it to neogaf like in 2006 or something. gaf (gaming age forums) is different from neogaf. gaf was a place where people went to shoot the shit about games. neogaf, well....

[Let's Cyber]

 OPPO DROPPO (in the form of a vauge tweet at 3am)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1399536

RPGCrazied vindicated. 

Edit: PoliGAF digested this as Holder potentially running for office while OT is fantasizing about Obama becoming dictator, horrified Trump will fire Mueller and posting a bunch of  wrestling gifs. 

[cityhunter]

man I remember when GAF was a fun forum to read

GAF, sure.  NeoGAF?

Sure, I think that it was pretty fun around early 00 era?

his point is that gaf used to be gaming age forums, as owned by gaming-age.com and Jim.

Evi bought it and it was gaming age forums still for a while, but then shifted it to neogaf like in 2006 or something. gaf (gaming age forums) is different from neogaf. gaf was a place where people went to shoot the shit about games. neogaf, well....

I know what he means. I wasn't around during the gaming-age era. I think I was around right as it was changed to neo. It was the time when things were more laid back. I still remember you with your original name on there as well (but don't recall it currently). So I don't know how much more laidback it was. But at the time I joined, "butt slide into jail" tagline were around for laughs.

[I'm a Puppy!]

OPPO DROPPO (in the form of a vauge tweet at 3am)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1399536

RPGCrazied vindicated. 

Edit: PoliGAF digested this as Holder wanting to run for office while OT is talking about Obama becoming dictator and posting a bunch of  "Sting swooping in from the rafters" wrestling gifs. 

All this because of a 3am tweet that was probably intended to be "inspirational"?

But there are wrestling gifs 

[daycru]

The entirety of OT is a VOAT thread against Donald Trump. There isn't bandwidth for one about noted GAF mod/icon being a pedophile?

 

Not my scene bro, that's for you and ami

[Steve Contra]

Wait wtf happened? I go out of town for a few days and...

[benjipwns]

Edit: PoliGAF digested this as Holder potentially running for office

to be fair, that was totally because i was taking a cheap shot at him and not because of their own thought processes

[EightBitNate]

It seems pretty common on anti-NeoGAF forums to call the major figures on the site pedophile sympathizers, but I always thought it was more of a meme.

Unfortunately the lead investigator into that was a poster by the name of The Walrus, who just up and disappeared randomly a few months after Opiate's downfall. It's almost as if he went undercover, deep cover, to try and ferret out whatever his suspicions ultimately led to.

Now the question is...did they get him? Or is Amir0x the tip of his iceberg and we just have to let global warming uncover the rest.

There was talk he was a master of blending in and running under alternate identities without anyone ever knowing it so for all we know he could be More_Badass unpacking the system from within.

It's probably too risky for him to pop his head up and give us a signal, sometimes you can never come in from the cold, you have to leave your true identity behind with no one ever knowing who you really are or were.

I wish the Reddit neofag subreddit was around. I feel like there's a lot of things people just forgot about.

[VomKriege]

Edit: PoliGAF digested this as Holder potentially running for office

to be fair, that was totally because i was taking a cheap shot at him and not because of their own thought processes

Please source your allegation about his criminal past you chekist.

[zomgee]

Still proud of my account suicide of I don't even know how many years ago now.
I probably need a new avatar here now.

[Shuri]

Brehs, imagine if Amir0x actually makes it through his prison term? I have no doubt in my mind that he'd try to register an account on GAF. Would he be approved? Would GAF even still be around then? Just picture ex-con sex offender Amir0x virtue signaling on GAF again!

I don't think they can use the internet for a couple of years after jail time. I guess it depends.

[nachobro]

if anyone would break a court order regarding internet just to post on gaf, it'd be amirox

[VomKriege]

Wait wtf happened? I go out of town for a few days and...

Amir0x got busted for kiddie porn, Gaffers old and new came in to dance on the corpse of his freedom.

He also got permanently banned from NeoGAF.com, much like Dennis.

The best thing out of this is all the old avys we didn't see a lot recently making a comeback.

[Optimus]

Germany votes for 50m euro social media fines (Hate Speech, Fake news)

Germany - world leaders

Pretty sure a lot of governments have been filtering the internet for decades


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What a collection of sad, gullible little morons.

"Please censor us with vague laws that would definitely not get exploited by the government to suppress free speech and freedom of the press" is pretty much the mentality in that thread. And people wonder why some of us hate these dangerous SJW imbeciles.

[benjipwns]

that was the latest thread where i upset some yuropeans by posting my usual AMERICAN absolutist free speech positions and then responding to a guy using "i think most of the forum agrees with me on this" as some kind of counter argument by asking who gives a shit what a forum full of reactionary conservative firebrands who love to cheer on their favorite corporations violently grinding their perceived enemies into dust thinks

i feel like that's my GAF peak rhetoric point for a month or two maybe longer

YEAAAAAH POSTING ON NEOGAF.COM

PLUS both "urges i need release for so i don't do something worse to children" Amir0x and Dennis are still permanently banned from NeoGAF.com

 

[benjipwns]

that was the latest thread where i upset some yuropeans by posting my usual AMERICAN absolutist free speech positions and then responding to a guy using "i think most of the forum agrees with me on this" as some kind of counter argument by asking who gives a shit what a forum full of reactionary conservative firebrands who love to cheer on their favorite corporations violently grinding their perceived enemies into dust thinks

i feel like that's my GAF peak rhetoric point for a month or two maybe longer

YEAAAAAH POSTING ON NEOGAF.COM

PLUS both "urges i need release for so i don't do something worse to children" Amir0x and Dennis are still permanently banned from NeoGAF.com

 

just die in a fire already please