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Jenkem

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25080 on: September 12, 2017, 02:19:04 PM »
rabbit holed AND a free snarky ban message?!?
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I've always thought it would be kind of interesting if someone got permed and snapped and took it out on a mod. Obviously I would never actually condone that happening, and of course it would technically be a crime, but it would be kind of wacky if Youngblood, Stump or whoever banned someone and then woke up chained to a post in a dark smelly basement with no memory of the last 24 hours and a masked figure holding a scalpel approaching them on fat, plodding feet.

uhh.. which mod was anti-hillary that prompted this?  :doge

Jenkem

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25081 on: September 12, 2017, 02:22:21 PM »
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=248662082#post248662082

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There isn't a person alive I'd rather see go down in fucking flames than pewdiepie. Everything about him is a mistake, his dad jizzing in his mom to make their aryan wunderboy youtube star was a mistake. God making the universe was probably a mistake if he was going to inhabit the shit with pdp style motherfuckers. But him saying fucking n*****r clearly wasn't a mistake. That boy clearly says shit like that all the time, it's that 4chan neo nazi alt right bullshit lingo where n*****r is just a random expletive to call someone. I've accidentally played with some white dudes who drop indiscriminate N bombs (they got kicked from my party as soon as they did) but pdp is basically the exact model of one of those fuckboi's. I imagine his non streamed gameplay is a cornucopia of race related swear wording.

 :neo

daemon

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25082 on: September 12, 2017, 02:25:36 PM »
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=248662082#post248662082

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There isn't a person alive I'd rather see go down in fucking flames than pewdiepie. Everything about him is a mistake, his dad jizzing in his mom to make their aryan wunderboy youtube star was a mistake. God making the universe was probably a mistake if he was going to inhabit the shit with pdp style motherfuckers. But him saying fucking n*****r clearly wasn't a mistake. That boy clearly says shit like that all the time, it's that 4chan neo nazi alt right bullshit lingo where n*****r is just a random expletive to call someone. I've accidentally played with some white dudes who drop indiscriminate N bombs (they got kicked from my party as soon as they did) but pdp is basically the exact model of one of those fuckboi's. I imagine his non streamed gameplay is a cornucopia of race related swear wording.

 :neo

lock him and lose the key.

Jansen

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25083 on: September 12, 2017, 02:27:50 PM »
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=248662082#post248662082

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There isn't a person alive I'd rather see go down in fucking flames than pewdiepie. Everything about him is a mistake, his dad jizzing in his mom to make their aryan wunderboy youtube star was a mistake. God making the universe was probably a mistake if he was going to inhabit the shit with pdp style motherfuckers. But him saying fucking n*****r clearly wasn't a mistake. That boy clearly says shit like that all the time, it's that 4chan neo nazi alt right bullshit lingo where n*****r is just a random expletive to call someone. I've accidentally played with some white dudes who drop indiscriminate N bombs (they got kicked from my party as soon as they did) but pdp is basically the exact model of one of those fuckboi's. I imagine his non streamed gameplay is a cornucopia of race related swear wording.

 :neo

status: not banned!

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Cerveza mas fina

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agrajag

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25085 on: September 12, 2017, 02:38:13 PM »
Vidya game nerds were a mistake. How the fuck could a dweeb like pewdiepie get a mass following like that in the first place?

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25086 on: September 12, 2017, 02:39:01 PM »
Vidya game nerds were a mistake. How the fuck could a dweeb like pewdiepie get a mass following like that in the first place?

tweens

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25087 on: September 12, 2017, 02:42:32 PM »
Yeah vidya game nerds are terrible, but personally I have yet to meet one who actually liked pewdiepie. Meanwhile all the tweens (and even younger) loves watching him, but really watch youtube shit like that, more than they play.

Jenkem

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25088 on: September 12, 2017, 02:43:06 PM »
I think this thread was lost in the PDP storm but it has some hilarious posts:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1431149
Hillary Clinton on why she lost and "the most important" mistake she made

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I think it's crazy that Hillary Clinton was the first candidate to ever plan a victory celebration.

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HOW DARE SHE.

PREPARE AHEAD OF TIME!?

THE ABSOLUTE ARROGANCE.

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Book seems to be doing poorly. Amazon and other retailers just cut the price from $30 to $18.

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The idea that when she lost to Obama, she "immediately" endorsed him is incredibly silly. And I guess she forgot that Bernie did actually endorse her? The whole interview is trash. That particular part seemed incredibly dishonest to me.

:six: :noooo

hopefully Benji can provide more posts since it's in his wheelhouse.
after he''s finished reading Hillary's book, of course.






agrajag

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25089 on: September 12, 2017, 02:48:43 PM »

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Book seems to be doing poorly. Amazon and other retailers just cut the price from $30 to $18.


Jack can only place orders so fast, you guys!

agrajag

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25090 on: September 12, 2017, 02:57:07 PM »
I thought you wanted benji to die in a fire?

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25091 on: September 12, 2017, 02:58:42 PM »
Vidya game nerds were a mistake. How the fuck could a dweeb like pewdiepie get a mass following like that in the first place?

His audience are not hardcore gamers, thought. His audience are teens and people looking for funny stuff in YT.

agrajag

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25092 on: September 12, 2017, 02:59:20 PM »
That is mostly for his Bore-exclusive output.

Oh.

Anyway, that poster you keep referencing is banned, it seems.

agrajag

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25093 on: September 12, 2017, 03:01:57 PM »
Vidya game nerds were a mistake. How the fuck could a dweeb like pewdiepie get a mass following like that in the first place?

His audience are not hardcore gamers, thought. His audience are teens and people looking for funny stuff in YT.

I don't know, you guys keep posting that, but seeing the massive PDP defense force on GAF, of all places suggests there's at least an overlap of tweens looking for lulz on youtub and gamers.

Jenkem

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25094 on: September 12, 2017, 03:06:29 PM »
Vidya game nerds were a mistake. How the fuck could a dweeb like pewdiepie get a mass following like that in the first place?

His audience are not hardcore gamers, thought. His audience are teens and people looking for funny stuff in YT.

I don't know, you guys keep posting that, but seeing the massive PDP defense force on GAF, of all places suggests there's at least an overlap of tweens looking for lulz on youtub and gamers.

there's your answer

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25095 on: September 12, 2017, 03:08:53 PM »
Vidya game nerds were a mistake. How the fuck could a dweeb like pewdiepie get a mass following like that in the first place?

His audience are not hardcore gamers, thought. His audience are teens and people looking for funny stuff in YT.

I don't know, you guys keep posting that, but seeing the massive PDP defense force on GAF, of all places suggests there's at least an overlap of tweens looking for lulz on youtub and gamers.

So teenegers are assholes, what it has to do specifically with video game nerds? GAF used to tolerate PDP before going jontron, people complained he had a large following following while other "better" gamer centric youtubers had way less and some mods used to post articles about "PDP is millionare".

agrajag

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25096 on: September 12, 2017, 03:15:09 PM »
But GAF is the nexus of hardcore gaming

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25097 on: September 12, 2017, 03:18:00 PM »
But GAF is the nexus of hardcore gaming

And one of the last bastions for progressives in the net according to Vice

Speaking of Vice, Kek is a haram word now, be aware:

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/8x84kp/destiny-2-included-a-legendary-gauntlet-with-a-white-supremacist-logo?utm_source=wptwitterus

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To be clear, the iconography on the Road Complex AA1 gauntlets is not identical, but its green coloration, and the shape of the KEK lettering are obvious signals. Doubtless there will be people who refuse to acknowledge the very clear symbolism here, much in the same way that the Kekistan flag itself was designed to give overt symbols of Nazi allegiance an ironic cover story. The entire cartoonish nature of modern white supremacist symbolism is to make clear, sincere statements of belief that believers can then turn around and masquerade as an edgy joke.

But that's a shell game where in the name of fairness someone can be asked to provide endless proof of what is evident to the naked eye. It's a way to make victims and targets seem ridiculous while their abusers and assailants are portrayed as mere jesters from the court of internet dadaism, with no connection to real-world harassment and violence.

The best way to beat a rigged game is playing it as intented. Thanks Vice for making shit memes relevant for Trolls and assholes.
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Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25098 on: September 12, 2017, 03:44:01 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=248746178&postcount=297

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I'm not really sure how you would fight something like this. Like, the moment kekistan flag stuff started popping up, we all go to rallies waving the same flag, claiming it's ours? Or draw lots of pictures of Pepe embracing the LGBT community and post them constantly?

Give this guy a medal, he just resolved the proble...

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Wouldn't you have to go to their haunts constantly to see the plans coalescing so you can counter them? "Ok some guy there is making 100 kekistan flags to hand out, I'm making 100 of my own to hand out for the good guys." I mean they'd probably just look at that as a victory, that they fooled their enemies into waving their flag.

Never mind, he thinks Memes are some sort of intellectual propierty...

Goodammit GAF!

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It used to be lol in orcish in world of Warcraft but it seems to have gone beyond that. I didn't even know until this thread. The similarity is intentional it looks like and someone should be responsible for this.

 :fbm

Joe Molotov

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25099 on: September 12, 2017, 03:48:43 PM »
top kek
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Nabbis

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25100 on: September 12, 2017, 03:50:13 PM »
Gaf has gone too far. Feel free to censor Bur but leave Kek the fuck alone.

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25101 on: September 12, 2017, 03:54:05 PM »
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Ignoring Racism and White Supremacy has never and will never make it go away. It only makes it worse.

For most of the half of the people in that thread it was not a hate symbol until Vice declared it, it was lol from WoW.

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Maybe it's time to accept the reality that ignoring them isn't good enough

Sorry for your loss

In exchange, progressive friends would shit on me if I said kek in twitter while just yesterday they would use it with no problem. Keeping a list of good memes and bad memes is fun, yo!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=248747594&postcount=317

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Inb4 Atlus removes this

Welp.

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25103 on: September 12, 2017, 04:38:53 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=248738804&postcount=824
 :badass


Just close the thread already, what else is there to be said that hasn't already.

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25104 on: September 12, 2017, 04:40:22 PM »
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People disagreeing with you isn't brushing your opinion aside. Having experienced personal racism makes you neither unique, nor the arbiter of what others consider racism.

Said the gigantic white dude living in Texas.

SantaC

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25105 on: September 12, 2017, 04:57:03 PM »
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=248738804&postcount=824
 :badass


Just close the thread already, what else is there to be said that hasn't already.

the mods want to keep the echochamber going. Someone said that all french people are racist. Did he get banned? Nope.

Atramental

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25106 on: September 12, 2017, 04:59:30 PM »


:trumps

Raist

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25107 on: September 12, 2017, 05:02:59 PM »
Fresh mass-quote on page 13 of the new thread:

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Aenima
Member
(Today, 06:16 PM)

So resuming:

- PDP says a hatefull word
- Internet reacts with hatefull words towards PDP
- PDP recognises what he said was wrong and apologises
- Internet keep reacting with hatefull words towards PDP.

Yup, thats the world i know.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=248716352&postcount=614


Page 15 and they're still quoting this post. Why they always do this? Don't they see someone already replied to the poster and said the same thing already multiple times?

Gotta make sure the mods see it yaknow.

Huff

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25108 on: September 12, 2017, 05:03:03 PM »
Fuck the french
dur

Raist

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25109 on: September 12, 2017, 05:08:51 PM »
Fuck the french

Sorry brah but nope. As consistent members of the top 3 best lovers in the world, we have standards.

Jenkem

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25110 on: September 12, 2017, 05:17:41 PM »
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=248738804&postcount=824
 :badass


Just close the thread already, what else is there to be said that hasn't already.

the mods want to keep the echochamber going. Someone said that all french people are racist. Did he get banned? Nope.

where is this post?

Jenkem

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25111 on: September 12, 2017, 05:17:59 PM »
on to more important matters: is the taco bell app worth downloading/using?

Himu

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25112 on: September 12, 2017, 05:27:06 PM »
France makes good stuff.

Have not you listened to Air? Have not you ever eaten creme brulee? France owns.
IYKYK

zomgee

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25113 on: September 12, 2017, 05:28:28 PM »
France makes good stuff.

Have not you listened to Air?

Where have you been all my life
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FunSlower

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25114 on: September 12, 2017, 05:28:30 PM »
on to more important matters: is the taco bell app worth downloading/using?

Yes, absolutely. Customize your order. Put shit on it you didn't think you could. It's magic. Get rid of pesky things like rice and replace it with MORE STEAK.

Himu

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25115 on: September 12, 2017, 05:30:04 PM »
France makes good stuff.

Have not you listened to Air?

Where have you been all my life

Just waiting for you!
IYKYK

counterhit

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25116 on: September 12, 2017, 05:32:31 PM »
I don't think anyone in that thread watches Pewdiepie, so I'm wondering what is the significance of not accepting his apology is. A lot of the same people already thought he was a nazi, so I'm not sure even that's changed.

SantaC

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25117 on: September 12, 2017, 05:37:38 PM »
I don't think anyone in that thread watches Pewdiepie, so I'm wondering what is the significance of not accepting his apology is. A lot of the same people already thought he was a nazi, so I'm not sure even that's changed.

Gaf hated PDP long before the scandals. No wonder they take the oppurtunity to burn him

SantaC

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25118 on: September 12, 2017, 05:45:06 PM »
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=248738804&postcount=824
 :badass


Just close the thread already, what else is there to be said that hasn't already.

the mods want to keep the echochamber going. Someone said that all french people are racist. Did he get banned? Nope.

where is this post?

Seems  nuked. It all started by a french poster saying they use the n word all the time and it isnt an insult or whatever. Then hilarity ensues and someone called france fucking racists. Mods have removed the conversation.

SantaC

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25119 on: September 12, 2017, 06:11:35 PM »
So the most insane, fanatical "let's make every thread about Bernie!" poster on GAF turned out to be a proponent of Jewish banker conspiracy theories.

Then again, Amir0x turned out to be a pedophile, so I guess it goes both ways.

How did Amir0x stay unbanned for so long with his shitty history? Gaf is known to ban you for nothing but this criminal  posted for over 10 years without problems.

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« Reply #25120 on: September 12, 2017, 06:21:41 PM »
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why this is even a discussion. If you're white, you don't get to say the word unless you're forced to give a oral report on Huckleberry Finn at gunpoint by Russian agents who've kidnapped the only woman you've ever loved.

And even then prepare to get your ass beat.

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25121 on: September 12, 2017, 06:40:46 PM »
So the most insane, fanatical "let's make every thread about Bernie!" poster on GAF turned out to be a proponent of Jewish banker conspiracy theories.

Then again, Amir0x turned out to be a pedophile, so I guess it goes both ways.

How did Amir0x stay unbanned for so long with his shitty history? Gaf is known to ban you for nothing but this criminal  posted for over 10 years without problems.

My theory is that he got them on the Shillary payroll during the campaign, Bish getting demodded for mass banning without a proper justification was never a problem before the election, he must have screwed up down the line. The forum was the top referrer for Hillary Clinton.

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25122 on: September 12, 2017, 06:46:27 PM »
Hey, hey, Voat! We may not be Jack but come on...

ModernBoxes

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25123 on: September 12, 2017, 06:50:29 PM »
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why this is even a discussion. If you're white, you don't get to say the word unless you're forced to give a oral report on Huckleberry Finn at gunpoint by Russian agents who've kidnapped the only woman you've ever loved.

And even then prepare to get your ass beat.

Lolviolence always works out for the aggressive party am I right?  :ohyou

daemon

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25124 on: September 12, 2017, 06:55:17 PM »
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why this is even a discussion. If you're white, you don't get to say the word unless you're forced to give a oral report on Huckleberry Finn at gunpoint by Russian agents who've kidnapped the only woman you've ever loved.

And even then prepare to get your ass beat.

you don't get to say that to a black person, I get that. But really in the context it happened it can hardly be applied.

"But he's probably part of the white supremacy kekistan neonazi squad, a closet racist who simply moderates himself in public" - yeah, spare me that crap. Years ago, saying "wow that was gay" when something wrong happened ingame was commonplace. I haven't used it in a long long time, but if someday it simply resurfaced for whatever reason, i'd like to not be called a homophobe for it. "but he has 50+ million reach, he should be careful with what he says"- yeah, he knows that, alright. people have constantly tried to ruin his career out of jealousy.

Having said that, black people apparently like to use coon a lot against fellow brothers due to wrongthink and shit. They too use a perjorative term meant to demean them as part of the african race, but you don't see the pitchforks when it happens. As for white people, the use of cracker has the same marginalized origin and about the same age in terms of usage, but white people are privileged so calling them crackers doesnt hurt

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25125 on: September 12, 2017, 06:58:06 PM »
There was a thread last week about someone getting mad that some candy or food had negro in the title, because they weren't aware that negro also means the color black in various languages. But the argument that Europeans saying distinguished black fellow doesn't mean the same thing or is okay is lulz, since many countries stopped even using negro to refer to people with dark skin decades ago because it was offensive.

"Negro" is also commonly used in Africa. To quote the Liberian constitution, article 27b (latest revision from 2011):

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In order to preserve, foster and maintain the positive Liberian culture, values and
character, only persons who are Negroes or of Negro descent shall qualify by birth
or by naturalization to be citizens of Liberia.

Probably not surprising that this article is a bit... controversial. And not for the choice of words.

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25126 on: September 12, 2017, 06:58:57 PM »
There are users that were never moderators and they are even more protected. There's no transparency from them, they could even be alt-accounts from previous notorious members that got banned, you never know.

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25127 on: September 12, 2017, 07:05:07 PM »
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why this is even a discussion. If you're white, you don't get to say the word unless you're forced to give a oral report on Huckleberry Finn at gunpoint by Russian agents who've kidnapped the only woman you've ever loved.

And even then prepare to get your ass beat.

you don't get to say that to a black person, I get that. But really in the context it happened it can hardly be applied.

"But he's probably part of the white supremacy kekistan neonazi squad, a closet racist who simply moderates himself in public" - yeah, spare me that crap. Years ago, saying "wow that was gay" when something wrong happened ingame was commonplace. I haven't used it in a long long time, but if someday it simply resurfaced for whatever reason, i'd like to not be called a homophobe for it. "but he has 50+ million reach, he should be careful with what he says"- yeah, he knows that, alright. people have constantly tried to ruin his career out of jealousy.

Having said that, black people apparently like to use coon a lot against fellow brothers due to wrongthink and shit. They too use a perjorative term meant to demean them as part of the african race, but you don't see the pitchforks when it happens. As for white people, the use of cracker has the same marginalized origin and about the same age in terms of usage, but white people are privileged so calling them crackers doesnt hurt

Most people say that is an asshole and probably racist because he said when he is the middle of a drama shitstorm and has become hyper defensive but backtracking when calling out. A lot of people are less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt after having a similar racia and social insensitive controversy every two weeks.

He saying the n-word on stream was on him alone, even he understands that. Is not the WSJ taking something out of context or doing a tasteless joke after charleston.

daemon

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25128 on: September 12, 2017, 07:12:02 PM »
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why this is even a discussion. If you're white, you don't get to say the word unless you're forced to give a oral report on Huckleberry Finn at gunpoint by Russian agents who've kidnapped the only woman you've ever loved.

And even then prepare to get your ass beat.

you don't get to say that to a black person, I get that. But really in the context it happened it can hardly be applied.

"But he's probably part of the white supremacy kekistan neonazi squad, a closet racist who simply moderates himself in public" - yeah, spare me that crap. Years ago, saying "wow that was gay" when something wrong happened ingame was commonplace. I haven't used it in a long long time, but if someday it simply resurfaced for whatever reason, i'd like to not be called a homophobe for it. "but he has 50+ million reach, he should be careful with what he says"- yeah, he knows that, alright. people have constantly tried to ruin his career out of jealousy.

Having said that, black people apparently like to use coon a lot against fellow brothers due to wrongthink and shit. They too use a perjorative term meant to demean them as part of the african race, but you don't see the pitchforks when it happens. As for white people, the use of cracker has the same marginalized origin and about the same age in terms of usage, but white people are privileged so calling them crackers doesnt hurt

Most people say that is an asshole and probably racist because he said when he is the middle of a drama shitstorm and has become hyper defensive but backtracking when calling out. A lot of people are less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt after having a similar racia and social insensitive controversy every two weeks.

He saying the n-word on stream was on him alone, even he understands that. Is not the WSJ taking something out of context or doing a tasteless joke after charleston.


I didn't say anything that contradicts what you're saying though.


And I don't agree with the whole every two weeks.
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Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25129 on: September 12, 2017, 07:20:23 PM »
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why this is even a discussion. If you're white, you don't get to say the word unless you're forced to give a oral report on Huckleberry Finn at gunpoint by Russian agents who've kidnapped the only woman you've ever loved.

And even then prepare to get your ass beat.

you don't get to say that to a black person, I get that. But really in the context it happened it can hardly be applied.

"But he's probably part of the white supremacy kekistan neonazi squad, a closet racist who simply moderates himself in public" - yeah, spare me that crap. Years ago, saying "wow that was gay" when something wrong happened ingame was commonplace. I haven't used it in a long long time, but if someday it simply resurfaced for whatever reason, i'd like to not be called a homophobe for it. "but he has 50+ million reach, he should be careful with what he says"- yeah, he knows that, alright. people have constantly tried to ruin his career out of jealousy.

Having said that, black people apparently like to use coon a lot against fellow brothers due to wrongthink and shit. They too use a perjorative term meant to demean them as part of the african race, but you don't see the pitchforks when it happens. As for white people, the use of cracker has the same marginalized origin and about the same age in terms of usage, but white people are privileged so calling them crackers doesnt hurt

Most people say that is an asshole and probably racist because he said when he is the middle of a drama shitstorm and has become hyper defensive but backtracking when calling out. A lot of people are less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt after having a similar racia and social insensitive controversy every two weeks.

He saying the n-word on stream was on him alone, even he understands that. Is not the WSJ taking something out of context or doing a tasteless joke after charleston.


I didn't say anything that contradicts what you're saying though.

Just saying why people are specially mad about this, including people that defended him in previous drama. He was full aware on how people were to react when using that word. I personally don't think he is a racist but he is a prick because he is starting deliberately  trying to push people buttons.

Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25130 on: September 12, 2017, 07:29:52 PM »
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why this is even a discussion. If you're white, you don't get to say the word unless you're forced to give a oral report on Huckleberry Finn at gunpoint by Russian agents who've kidnapped the only woman you've ever loved.

And even then prepare to get your ass beat.

you don't get to say that to a black person, I get that. But really in the context it happened it can hardly be applied.


The context is that he was mad and wanted to throw out an insult. Instead of 'asshole' or 'fuckface' or 'donkey fucker' he used a derogatory term for black people. This means that not only is he comfortable using a word that doesn't belong in a white dude's mouth as an insult, but also that he views being a black person as something bad, something derogatory enough in his mind that it would count as an insult to recipient . You don't using insults based on things you view as good. The math is real simple on this one.

We're way, way past not pretending to understand that there are shades to being a racist fuck. The "well he's not burning crosses" defense has never held weight.

Finally, "how come black people can say [insert synonym for word we're actually talking about] and nobody cares?" This isn't some new shit. Maybe it's not fair in some esoteric sense, but yeah man, black people can use words for one another that other people can't. Nothing else can be said on that except for why the fuck does this bother anybody that isn't actually itching to say it? Why do you care if somebody else is using a word that you would totally never say it? I don't get mad at some gay dude sucking more cocks than me because that is of no interest to me.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25131 on: September 12, 2017, 07:30:32 PM »
So the most insane, fanatical "let's make every thread about Bernie!" poster on GAF turned out to be a proponent of Jewish banker conspiracy theories.

Then again, Amir0x turned out to be a pedophile, so I guess it goes both ways.
ErasureAcer? He was on those conspiracy theories long before hopping on the Bernie train, that was just the logical end point really.

Hell, even that El_Tigre guy you hate might have been. There was a (((cabal))) of them that scattered to the winds after empty_vessel left (or switched to his benjipwns alt?) and Kara flat out destroyed zuh-zuh-zombie or whatever his name was. And then the forum started protecting that one Venezuelan poster and using his threads for protected Socialism/Communism blasting. That used to be the epicenter of some of those great battles between us radicals.

Though a couple I think flipped over to the RUSSIA IS ALWAYS RIGHT UKRAINE ALWAYS THEIR LAND HAHA AMERICANS HAVE RACIAL PROBLEMS group that was short-lived.

TVC15

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25132 on: September 12, 2017, 07:30:50 PM »
Blatantly stolen from the GAF thread, but this got a chuckle out of me

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25133 on: September 12, 2017, 07:36:25 PM »
sucking more cocks than me because that is of no interest to me.

Delete your Bore account.


Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25135 on: September 12, 2017, 07:50:37 PM »
Like moths to a flame.

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25136 on: September 12, 2017, 07:54:56 PM »
Like moths to a flame.

Gaf would be proud:

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I really have no idea what you're on about, i'm genuine, not trying to be a dick either.

People are free to say whatever they want, i'm not even a mod, but i'm free to point out how i found some of the opinions expressed here to be wrong and criticize them.

Does "discussion" mean "free from rebuttal and criticism" to you? That's really all i'm doing.
I didn't tell anyone to stop posting, so i don't know what you mean.
Telling someone you disagree with them, isn't shooting them down, that is part of the discussion being had.

Besides, there are many ways to express outrage, doesn't mean all of them are right.

UrbanRats is going to get banned hard.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25137 on: September 12, 2017, 08:13:51 PM »
The context is that he was mad and wanted to throw out an insult. Instead of 'asshole' or 'fuckface' or 'donkey fucker' he used a derogatory term for black people. This means that not only is he comfortable using a word that doesn't belong in a white dude's mouth as an insult, but also that he views being a black person as something bad, something derogatory enough in his mind that it would count as an insult to recipient . You don't using insults based on things you view as good. The math is real simple on this one.

We're way, way past not pretending to understand that there are shades to being a racist fuck. The "well he's not burning crosses" defense has never held weight.

Finally, "how come black people can say [insert synonym for word we're actually talking about] and nobody cares?" This isn't some new shit. Maybe it's not fair in some esoteric sense, but yeah man, black people can use words for one another that other people can't. Nothing else can be said on that except for why the fuck does this bother anybody that isn't actually itching to say it? Why do you care if somebody else is using a word that you would totally never say it? I don't get mad at some gay dude sucking more cocks than me because that is of no interest to me.
There is a funny component to it where people are demanding others pick a fine line of racist/not racist in both directions of the conservation so as to make it this grander thing rather than the simple immediate thing that is. (Along with the endless hunting for hypocrisy.) Look at the response your post got for example.

Just hypothetically, the idea that PDP is no more racist than the average person of Yurop (heck since it's a made up hypothetical we could even say he's practically non-racist) but both used and intended the term in a derogatory manner and that was wrong and people shouldn't do that somehow seems not be an acceptable option for "either" side making hundreds of posts.

The latter point about "why can't I use it" is also amusing in that they seem not to comprehend that you're not saying they literally can't say it or use it. You're saying you should never say it because there's never a valid reason to use it like a whole bunch of other stuff we regularly self-police. They're totally free to do so, and everyone else is totally free to apply consequences for that. (Even if we'll all disagree as to what exactly those consequences should be.)

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25138 on: September 12, 2017, 08:18:41 PM »
There was a thread last week about someone getting mad that some candy or food had negro in the title, because they weren't aware that negro also means the color black in various languages. But the argument that Europeans saying distinguished black fellow doesn't mean the same thing or is okay is lulz, since many countries stopped even using negro to refer to people with dark skin decades ago because it was offensive.

I mean, where do you thing distinguished black fellow comes from?

From French (LOL RACIST FRENCH PEOPLE AMIRITE) "Nègre", originally giving neger in english. Which means black (as in a person). Came from Spanish "negro", which just means the colour black in general.

People in europe stopped saying it (not the slur, just the "normal" word) mostly because of american culture influence. Also because it's sort of old fashioned. Still, the whole point about europeans not being as sensitive about the word as americans, has a lot to do with culture. We don't get it drilled in our heads since age 2 that it's a terrible word to use. Musical influences certainly don't help either.
Similar thing with "jap", which triggers a lot of americans all the way up to eleven, but in french for instance, it's just a very common short for japanese, without any bad meaning whatsoever.

And, to an outsider (non-US) the difference between the "OK" forms and the bad one is rather puzzling honestly. The whole n****r, N-word, nicca etc is frankly a bit amusing. You just know EXACTLY what people mean, so what's the difference exactly? It's a bit of a bizarre loophole.
Like people who type "g*d", because you know, you shouldn't use god's name in vain.

agrajag

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of Trash People for Trash People
« Reply #25139 on: September 12, 2017, 08:29:39 PM »
^

To add to Raist's posts when I grew up in Soviet Russia the common name for black people there was "negr" which is a loan word, probably derived from Spanish or French or another Romance language. It wasn't a pejorative, as far as I know, I am not sure if it's as common now than it was then, as American culture is more prevalent there in the post-Soviet times. Only when my mom went to visit her relatives to US in the early 90's they explained to her not to use that word here and that it's a pejorative. When I eventually moved to U.S. with my family I understood (the best I could) the word's history and impact on people.