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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #120 on: November 08, 2016, 06:41:47 PM »
Yeah, I'm catching your wave. I'm just at the point where I feel if there's anyone who should be able to take a generalization on the chin and move past it to see the valid pain, criticisms, etc it's uncle whitey

I agree. Sorry white boreans, but I do kinda laugh at you when you get angry at being blanketed most of the time. Seems to be the easiest shit to brush off and ignored to me.

I won't hate y'all for it though, as much as it might bother you I see it as ignorance.

I'm just keen on being treated with the same respect that is being asked of me. I think that a mutual respect goes a long way, and if people want to be lazy and make blanket statements about the entirety of a race that I am a part of, then it does piss me off a bit. I'm an individual. I'm of Irish descent (and 1 drop rule and all that, I'm also a dash of Togo descent as well). Me being annoyed doesn't mean I'm ignoring anything either.

Dude, we're cool. You know that. I think we've had this discussion before. Hell, I'm defending white people in this very thread. Just saying that I won't lie about the fact that it's hard for me to relate to it since I've been treated with much worse and learned to brush it off.

I won't treat you awfully just because you're white, though. You'll be treated exactly like everybody else. I do get why it bothers you and others, though. Won't fully write it off, just saying that I find it comical personally.

And Himu, you know you're my gal. It really sucks that you feel that way and I hope you find the peace you crave.

Oh I know, it was just a general response to the sentiment.   :respect

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #121 on: November 08, 2016, 06:53:37 PM »
Fuck that response. Seriously. It's like "whoa there, sure society created these pressures on you, gave you the genetic memories of oppression, but you can't talk about it in a public arena! That's for professionals to handle!" Nerve struck alert

Anger / hate is a very common manifestations of depression.
It's not a coincidence that the 2nd question any medical professional would ask you is "do you have any thoughts about harming others" right after "do you have suicidal thoughts".

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« Reply #122 on: November 08, 2016, 06:56:43 PM »
I believe it was nudemacuser that once said “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #123 on: November 08, 2016, 07:17:27 PM »
nudemacuser wisely said, and I'm paraphrasing here: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

I got chills.
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« Reply #124 on: November 08, 2016, 07:18:06 PM »
I can't really find fault with you disliking or avoiding white people because there really are a lot of racist white people, including The Good Ones. Racism and privileged ignorance go deep.

I do think you're creating a sort of monolithic view of whiteness for yourself. Whiteness and white culture is as confused and contradictory as any identity we force upon a group of people. For example looking down on the poors of your own ethnic group isn't a reflection of some unique aspect of whiteness as it is a class dynamic that's repeated in basically every society. Not to get too ethnic studies here but whiteness is an arbitrary construct designed to maintain a power structure, not an essentialist identity (:expert).

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #125 on: November 08, 2016, 07:19:23 PM »
nudemacuser wisely said, and I'm paraphrasing here: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

I got chills.
He got another one in before the snip? :whew

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #126 on: November 08, 2016, 07:23:52 PM »
nudemacuser wisely said, and I'm paraphrasing here: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

I got chills.
He got another one in before the snip? :whew

Told you I was paraphrasing.
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #127 on: November 08, 2016, 08:06:05 PM »
:drudge KEY RACE ALERT :drudge........it's nothing
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« Reply #128 on: November 08, 2016, 08:34:45 PM »
Sidenote but I'm glad you're back here to some degree Himu. The rare poster than can drop in on a board after being gone for months and spawn a triple page banger in a few hours. Salute

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« Reply #129 on: November 08, 2016, 08:49:16 PM »
*checks kosma posts in thread*

yup, white people
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #130 on: November 08, 2016, 08:50:24 PM »
nudemacuser wisely said, and I'm paraphrasing here: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

I got chills.
Four? Don't put this devilry on me before I lop my nuts off  >:(

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #131 on: November 08, 2016, 09:54:04 PM »
*watching election results coming in*

yeah, fuck white people
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« Reply #132 on: November 08, 2016, 09:55:42 PM »
Just line me up against the wall now, brehs. I'm ready to go. :goty
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« Reply #133 on: November 08, 2016, 09:58:33 PM »
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #134 on: November 08, 2016, 10:07:00 PM »
*watching election results coming in*

yeah, fuck white people

Yup.

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« Reply #135 on: November 08, 2016, 10:08:46 PM »
This is your true face, cacs. Revel in the fake smiles.

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #136 on: November 08, 2016, 10:10:05 PM »
FUCKING CACS

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #137 on: November 08, 2016, 10:15:01 PM »
Ah more like fuck Americans.  Also black turn out seems to be low.
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« Reply #138 on: November 08, 2016, 10:31:31 PM »
At least my gated community will protect me  :doge

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #139 on: November 08, 2016, 10:34:33 PM »
who you gated in with?
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« Reply #140 on: November 08, 2016, 10:38:18 PM »
France is next.

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« Reply #141 on: November 08, 2016, 10:39:00 PM »
Ah more like fuck Americans.  Also black turn out seems to be low.

Which is crazy considering the alternative is letting the KKK candidate win.

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« Reply #142 on: November 08, 2016, 10:42:07 PM »
And crazy because Hilary has done a lot for black communities. 
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« Reply #143 on: November 08, 2016, 10:43:37 PM »
Ah more like fuck Americans.  Also black turn out seems to be low.

Which is crazy considering the alternative is letting the KKK candidate win.

In a lot of the states so far, voter suppression is a thing. Especially the carolinas.

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« Reply #144 on: November 08, 2016, 10:45:13 PM »
France is next.

Things are shaping up for a second round between the conservatives and the far right, and worse possibly Sarkozy - Le Pen. Probably not great either way, even with a less horrible candidate than Sarkozy.

Cannot rule out, if things continue that way, that France may have a Frexit moment too.

A Trump victory would embolden the far right in Europe and I would expect some possible massive breaks in the alliance and defence setup, if only because US leadership will suffer.
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« Reply #145 on: November 08, 2016, 10:45:45 PM »
France is next.

It's true though.  Just as the world was starting to become more social progressive, we're hitting a time where everyone's getting scared and regressing.  I blame the rise of visible terrorism, the falling world economy post 2008 (thanks USA) and I seriously blame the goddamn internet.  The internet has enabled the uneducated to join meme machine bandwagons and reiterate lies and deteriorated actual truth in the world.  The fact a huge online side of trump supporters are reddit/gamergate types (aka enabled white manchildren) is disgusting.  The spread of available knowledge with the internet should have lead to a more progressive world.  Instead we have reddit. 

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #146 on: November 08, 2016, 10:51:22 PM »
Ah more like fuck Americans.  Also black turn out seems to be low.

Which is crazy considering the alternative is letting the KKK candidate win.

In a lot of the states so far, voter suppression is a thing. Especially the carolinas.

NC GOP sent out a release crowing about how black early voting was down and white early voting was up. :comeon
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« Reply #147 on: November 08, 2016, 10:58:20 PM »
The worst part of this isn't even the presidency.  I can live with 4 shitty years of Trump as long as he doesn't launch any nukes and start WW3 (even though he's gonna end up repealing Obamacare and get rid of pre-existing condition lockouts which will effect me directly and could possibly kill me),

But the Supreme Court picks are going to swing the SC red for decades and totally fuck the USA.  Worst thing is Obama should've gotten his replacement locked in.  It was bullshit that they stalled it.

I know it's retrospect and all at this point, but the pure antagonizing hate towards Obama for 8 years from the right should've been a flag that the right are pissed and gonna come out in droves one of these days.  For a follow up to Obama, Dems really should've played it straight with a normal white guy and let the hate on the right simmer down for a period before trying to run a woman or minority sadly.

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« Reply #148 on: November 08, 2016, 10:58:50 PM »
Darkest timeline confirmed

Whitest timeline?
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #149 on: November 08, 2016, 11:01:11 PM »
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« Reply #150 on: November 08, 2016, 11:16:03 PM »
firmly on the fuck cacs train now

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« Reply #151 on: November 08, 2016, 11:22:55 PM »
One thing I've noticed from lots of white people on both sides of the aisle is they find it very hard to accept that black people can hate white people for treating them like human garbage for years while simultaneously finding the fact that lots of white people hate black people because of the color of their skin not too difficult.

I wonder why that is  :doge

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« Reply #152 on: November 08, 2016, 11:43:05 PM »
Germany? After WWII Germany made it illegal to have a Nazi uniform or flag. America allowed confederate flags to still exist under the guise of "freedom" despite being a symbol of racism. Germany? Germany went into thorough attempts to educate a new generation so nazi-Ism is uniformly seen as a gross injustice and platform to partake in. America? we gloss over the harsh realities of the past that minorities faced (even the Irish!). Germany paid reparations to Jewish people while white Americans recoil at the mere thought despite it being justified.

Please don't airbrush the utter failure of the FRG to engage in meaningful Denazification.

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #153 on: November 08, 2016, 11:46:54 PM »
lol you done fucked up, wtf losers

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #154 on: November 08, 2016, 11:56:50 PM »
Welp

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #155 on: November 08, 2016, 11:58:41 PM »
I seriously cant believe it

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« Reply #156 on: November 09, 2016, 12:00:39 AM »
nm you were completely right

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« Reply #157 on: November 09, 2016, 12:06:20 AM »
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #159 on: November 09, 2016, 12:24:14 AM »
France is next.

It's true though.  Just as the world was starting to become more social progressive, we're hitting a time where everyone's getting scared and regressing.  I blame the rise of visible terrorism, the falling world economy post 2008 (thanks USA) and I seriously blame the goddamn internet.  The internet has enabled the uneducated to join meme machine bandwagons and reiterate lies and deteriorated actual truth in the world.  The fact a huge online side of trump supporters are reddit/gamergate types (aka enabled white manchildren) is disgusting.  The spread of available knowledge with the internet should have lead to a more progressive world.  Instead we have reddit.

Fuck it, I'll take it further than that. Since we can have everything in a single click on the Internet, what's considered news these days has turned to bite sized clickbait shit, including broadcast TV. TV news has to keep up with all the eyeballs of the Internet, so the lowest common denominator of information along with a 3 second factoid completely devoid of research passes for news.

Not that network news' pursuit of ratings is anything new, but it just seems more brazen.
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #160 on: November 09, 2016, 12:40:30 AM »

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #161 on: November 09, 2016, 12:43:19 AM »
We're gonna be alright.

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #162 on: November 09, 2016, 01:08:28 AM »
Wypipo have spoken. All the waffling i've been doing over the last 16 months about leaving here forever is over, i guess. They just don't want people like me here.

Time to #amerexit.

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« Reply #163 on: November 09, 2016, 01:38:35 AM »
Wypipo have spoken. All the waffling i've been doing over the last 16 months about leaving here forever is over, i guess. They just don't want people like me here.

Time to #amerexit.
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #164 on: November 09, 2016, 01:52:21 AM »
I hate everything now.

I know we're all sick of the "fuck 2016" meme but seriously, motherfuck 2016. Personally one of the worst years I've ever had, besting the previous worst year of my life 2015.
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« Reply #165 on: November 09, 2016, 02:02:22 AM »
The "fuck white people" mentality turned out white people in droves to vote for Trump so good job I guess.

It is a cancerous mindset and now America has cancer.

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« Reply #166 on: November 09, 2016, 02:13:36 AM »
I read this post/thread this morning and I had this :smug smarmy reply I was gonna post but now? Let the hate flow freely tbh
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« Reply #167 on: November 09, 2016, 02:14:49 AM »
Also, fuck 2017 thru 2020
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #168 on: November 09, 2016, 02:33:01 AM »
The "fuck white people" mentality turned out white people in droves to vote for Trump so good job I guess.

It is a cancerous mindset and now America has cancer.

Just to show how ludicrous 2016 has been, Dennis thinks he can argue words hurt and no one will call him out on his bullshit.

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« Reply #169 on: November 09, 2016, 02:43:26 AM »
Can I get a "fuck America," people?
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« Reply #170 on: November 09, 2016, 02:55:29 AM »
The "fuck white people" mentality turned out white people in droves to vote for Trump so good job I guess.

It is a cancerous mindset and now America has cancer.

Brexit 2.0

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« Reply #171 on: November 09, 2016, 04:44:48 AM »
Darkest timeline confirmed

Whitest timeline?

This is the Whitest timeline now.

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #172 on: November 09, 2016, 04:50:54 AM »
More like White Supremacist timeline.
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« Reply #173 on: November 09, 2016, 05:00:01 AM »
FUCKING CACS

Is this in response to Trump winning or you getting rejected by every white girl?

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« Reply #174 on: November 09, 2016, 06:56:18 AM »
The "fuck white people" mentality turned out white people in droves to vote for Trump so good job I guess.

It is a cancerous mindset and now America has cancer.
Man, I hate this 4KDennis gimmick

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #175 on: November 09, 2016, 07:08:53 AM »
Germany? After WWII Germany made it illegal to have a Nazi uniform or flag. America allowed confederate flags to still exist under the guise of "freedom" despite being a symbol of racism. Germany? Germany went into thorough attempts to educate a new generation so nazi-Ism is uniformly seen as a gross injustice and platform to partake in. America? we gloss over the harsh realities of the past that minorities faced (even the Irish!). Germany paid reparations to Jewish people while white Americans recoil at the mere thought despite it being justified.

Please don't airbrush the utter failure of the FRG to engage in meaningful Denazification.
I was too tired to "actually" this yesterday. Good to know you're here to pick up the slack. :heart

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #176 on: November 09, 2016, 07:31:23 AM »
I'm not one to pass on the opportunity to kick down le Boche and while all of what you say is true (on top of the fact that "denazification" was first engaged at the behest of the foreign occupying powers, in the same half assed manner to my understanding as it was not practical to break Germany beyond a certain point) I don't think one can deny that the WW2 aftermath did force some European self-reflection on those matters and led to a strong backlash against some casual racism that was a fact of life (mostly antisemitism, colonization didn't die overnight even if ultimately it was brought down by the same apparent "revealed" contradictions), though it unfortunately seems that this pushback is  relying on how strong the memories of shame and trauma are, and those will fade out with time.

All that to say that I don't think the point QoI made was without merit : there's definitely an American specificity to how institutionalized racism played out compared to Europe. Even if it was only Europeans affecting to not be as blatant about it in their mainland and their core expressed values.
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #177 on: November 09, 2016, 07:34:09 AM »
FUCKING CACS

Is this in response to Trump winning or you getting rejected by every white girl?

Neither, he was just restating his goal.

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« Reply #178 on: November 09, 2016, 07:37:26 AM »
We're gonna be alright.

I saw a post in the politics thread, showing the five stages of grief. It dawned on me that as we are moving forward as a species, a portion of us, those who fear change, are also in grief for their changing lifestyle. Trump's election is the embodiment of their anger at disenfranchisement. Though I think this is horrible for us as a nation, and as a species, I also think it's a temporary setback.

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« Reply #179 on: November 09, 2016, 08:10:20 AM »
FUCKING CACS

Is this in response to Trump winning or you getting rejected by every white girl?

Neither, he was just restating his goal.