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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #60 on: November 08, 2016, 03:59:01 PM »
Why is going full Black Panthers stupid exactly?

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #61 on: November 08, 2016, 04:00:18 PM »
Look Himu, its a shit sandwich being a discriminated minority and it's not fair, but turning inwards won't win any fights and you have to be stronger then that.

My grandma was in fucking Auschwitz and her dad died in the camps but she doesn't hate Germans and if she can get over it then who the fuck am I to get notions

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« Reply #62 on: November 08, 2016, 04:01:42 PM »
Why is going full Black Panthers stupid exactly?

Becuase you said you were perfectly capable of not being obssesed about race or hate before Ferguson.

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2016, 04:02:26 PM »
Just saying, what used to be the most powerful country in the world now has to choose between the two worst and almost cartoon like candidates as their leader. And its making people have nervous breakdowns all over the internet.

One day, you can have a leader like us.

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An American black man was just beaten to death by a random group in Toronto

This shit is everywhere

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« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2016, 04:02:34 PM »
I dunno man. I wish I knew. I'll say hold for tomorrow : Trump voters will not vanish overnight, but maybe the constant hysteria (EMAIL ! FBI ! MOOZLEMS ! DEPORTATIONS !) will quiet down a little and you'll be able to catch your breath.
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #65 on: November 08, 2016, 04:03:32 PM »
Just saying, what used to be the most powerful country in the world now has to choose between the two worst and almost cartoon like candidates as their leader. And its making people have nervous breakdowns all over the internet.

One day, you can have a leader like us.

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An American black man was just beaten to death by a random group in Toronto

This shit is everywhere

Yup. Cacs think it's just an American thing.

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« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2016, 04:04:20 PM »
It should be pointed out that the vast majority of white people are not "I don't like black people and I think their culture is disgusting" level racist. There are plenty of vocal shitheads on the internet, but there are a lot more white people of the "Obama elected, racism over" variety of racist than card carrying cross-burner types. I understand your frustration, but it does seem like you're taking a toll on yourself by creating this monotlithic view of white people. Hell, you're giving a dude in South Boston a pass in this very thread - if you can concede someone there is aaight, you should know there are other people on that level.

I also find it hard to believe you find the entirety of white culture disgusting, but if that's how it is, fine, I'll just be over here eating chicken salad with basil aoili while watching Westworld and playing with Legos (which I know isn't the correct plural, but I'm so white that I don't even respect other white cultures)

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #67 on: November 08, 2016, 04:08:20 PM »
Fucking Canadians. That's another thing. The type of white person who acts like this shit is above them even if they live in a country that was based on native suffering but HOLD IT YOU'RE BEING EXTREME and this problem is only unique to America like some holier than thou fuck stain who is above shit like this because they live in the Wintery Wonderland (tm) where there is no racism and only love, poutine, and hockey. Eat shit.

I can co-opt this if you include literally everywhere when they make fun of the US for racism. Lots of people say the US was built on institutionalized racism and a long history of bigorty, which is true, but some act like it's the US alone.

I avoid Arab twitter like the plague but I once encountered a saudi dude shake his head at american racism while calling black people slaves in the same tweet. Bitch please, having this tweet sandwiched between retweets of propaganda against Persians ain't helping your case. Then you see european countries spout the same against the US while bitching about Romas and Syrian refugees, and I didn't even get into the sub-group racism. Shit is not so blue anywhere else, superiority complexes makes no sense when bigotry takes many forms.
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« Reply #68 on: November 08, 2016, 04:11:51 PM »
I agree Vom.

My problem is the emotion of hate. It is tiring and hurtful. How do I get past that emotion? It needs to go away.

Seek professional help. As in a therapist.

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« Reply #69 on: November 08, 2016, 04:14:15 PM »
My conundrum is:

1. I'm a white person.
2. I care about racial inequality.
3. But at the same time, I'm out of my depth. I both admit and have been told that I can't relate to the black experience in America, because I can't.
4. I've also been told I can't be an "ally" because white liberals don't really care, and I don't want to act like I can speak for (or at) the black community.

So for now I basically have to be content with doing nothing for non-whites other than voting for Democrats and pro-black policies. Sucks but whatever.

I wouldn't see you as an "ally" or an enemy to be fair. Calling out racism is great, the only problem is if you decide you know what's best for another race or how they should be(a trap many white liberals fall into).

All you have to do is not treat anyone differently because of their race, a decent person is decent and an asshole is an asshole. And just understand that you won't understand fully. You already do that so you're good.

Sure, obviously, just wish I could do more.

My conundrum is:

1. I'm a white person.
2. I care about racial inequality.
3. But at the same time, I'm out of my depth. I both admit and have been told that I can't relate to the black experience in America, because I can't.
4. I've also been told I can't be an "ally" because white liberals don't really care, and I don't want to act like I can speak for (or at) the black community.

So for now I basically have to be content with doing nothing for non-whites other than voting for Democrats and pro-black policies. Sucks but whatever.

You are fine.

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« Reply #70 on: November 08, 2016, 04:17:24 PM »
Sure, obviously, just wish I could do more.

The reality is you can't.

Don't fret, though. I can't either.
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #71 on: November 08, 2016, 04:20:33 PM »
Its kind of lame my grandma story gets ignored, ad Im the only one here that has had family murdered over their ethnicity in here but whatever I'm white so it doesn't count I guess

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« Reply #72 on: November 08, 2016, 04:24:57 PM »
I just picked up medicine and haven't gotten the chance to respond asshole

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« Reply #73 on: November 08, 2016, 04:36:00 PM »
Nevermind. Very overshare.
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #74 on: November 08, 2016, 04:40:18 PM »
Come on, guys, for real, I voted for Hillary today and somehow that's not good enough?!
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« Reply #75 on: November 08, 2016, 04:44:45 PM »
 :lol

Holy shit at this thread.

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« Reply #76 on: November 08, 2016, 04:48:41 PM »
When you dive deep into activism, the negative is usually the thing that gets amplified. I was hugely politically active in the 90's for gay rights and all the negativity ate away at my soul. I had to step back and take care of myself and my immediate circle of friends/family, and it helped a lot. I try to take every person and their opinion as individuals instead of as a group. If you find yourself being hateful of an entire group of people, especially based on the color of their skin, it's time to take a step back for your own health/well being. It's not good for you or anyone else.

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« Reply #77 on: November 08, 2016, 04:51:42 PM »
Come on, guys, for real, I voted for Hillary today and somehow that's not good enough?!

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #78 on: November 08, 2016, 04:53:04 PM »
Yeah, I need to spend less time on the internet.

Maybe I'll be back here months after the election is done.

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« Reply #79 on: November 08, 2016, 04:55:05 PM »
Its kind of lame my grandma story gets ignored, ad Im the only one here that has had family murdered over their ethnicity in here but whatever I'm white so it doesn't count I guess
Also the fact that it didn't happen to you.   Not saying that I think it's good to hold a grudge against all white people, but there's a more delicate way to express that than invoking the Holocaust.   I've never known a Holocaust survivor but I'm sure that plenty of them hate the whole German people, others have found forgiveness and others fall anywhere in between.

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #80 on: November 08, 2016, 05:21:16 PM »
Im not jewish gross

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« Reply #81 on: November 08, 2016, 05:22:16 PM »
Yeah, I need to spend less time on the internet.

Maybe I'll be back here months after the election is done.

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But you just came back?  :'(
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« Reply #82 on: November 08, 2016, 05:23:16 PM »
Look Himu, its a shit sandwich being a discriminated minority and it's not fair, but turning inwards won't win any fights and you have to be stronger then that.

My grandma was in fucking Auschwitz and her dad died in the camps but she doesn't hate Germans and if she can get over it then who the fuck am I to get notions

Your comparison would be apt if white people actively made steps to improving the lives of people they colonized and fucked without lube. Instead they create false platitudes that do nothing but make themselves feel better and take away their own involvement ("racism is over" "I'm color blind" "we live in a multicultural society" "I'm Canadian!") or they seek to alter history to make their acts not as bad (Texas history textbooks being altered to make it seem like the antebellum slavery was self inflicted and the slaves were well provided for and happy!).

Germany? After WWII Germany made it illegal to have a Nazi uniform or flag. America allowed confederate flags to still exist under the guise of "freedom" despite being a symbol of racism. Germany? Germany went into thorough attempts to educate a new generation so nazi-Ism is uniformly seen as a gross injustice and platform to partake in. America? we gloss over the harsh realities of the past that minorities faced (even the Irish!). Germany paid reparations to Jewish people while white Americans recoil at the mere thought despite it being justified.

Germany, as a culture and society, gives plenty of room to forgive because they have made sure that nothing like the holocaust will ever happen again. To black people, the holocaust is still happening and many white people refuse to accept it.

Our circumstances couldn't be further apart. Never mind that my grandpa, although he wasn't murdered, almost was, and by his own co workers. I have personally beaten up and called a distinguished black fellowr. Have you? Has a German personally socked you in the gut and called you a filthy Jew? Because I have. While your family has had awful history on this, it is no longer a threat to your life, family, or livelihood. It is the definition of false equivalence. Since you're splitting hairs, my cousin is the daughter of a former slave and still alive. While it's nice your grandma doesn't hate Germany, she's got more than a few reasons why doesn't need to. White people tho? Oh, all lives matter. Why do they have their own month? Why do they have their own tv channel? Why do they always talk about race? Meanwhile white people took the lessons of WWII (blaming a foreign group as the root of all of our problems) and are literally believe they can build a wall to keep Mexicans out or get out of the Eu to keep Arabs out.

If white society as a whole admitted they have a problem and were willing to talk and discuss how to fix it, we wouldn't be talking about this.

But we are.


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« Reply #84 on: November 08, 2016, 05:28:36 PM »
A lot of white society does though, Himuro. Maybe not to the lengths that you'd like or should be done, but quite a few at least understand it's still a problem that needs to be solved.
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« Reply #85 on: November 08, 2016, 05:31:24 PM »
But a whole lot don't, too. I just explained to my parents the other day how our private prison industry is modern day de facto slavery, there's a huge group of white people who are ignorant to that kind of shit, willfully or not.
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« Reply #86 on: November 08, 2016, 05:32:34 PM »
A lot of white society does though, Himuro. Maybe not to the lengths that you'd like or should be done, but quite a few at least understand it's still a problem that needs to be solved.

A lot of white society does what exactly? If it's not black people, it's some other minority. If it's not another minority they need to feel better than, it's the poor white people ("poor white trash" et al). Because that's their culture.
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« Reply #87 on: November 08, 2016, 05:36:19 PM »
A lot of white society does though, Himuro. Maybe not to the lengths that you'd like or should be done, but quite a few at least understand it's still a problem that needs to be solved.

A lot of white society does what exactly? If it's not black people, it's some other minority. If it's another minority they need to feel better than, it's the poor ("poor white trash" et al). Because that's their culture.

Yah, no.

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #88 on: November 08, 2016, 05:39:40 PM »
Americans are crazy, man.

Jesus.
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« Reply #89 on: November 08, 2016, 05:41:26 PM »
A lot of white society does though, Himuro. Maybe not to the lengths that you'd like or should be done, but quite a few at least understand it's still a problem that needs to be solved.

A lot of white society does what exactly? If it's not black people, it's some other minority. If it's another minority they need to feel better than, it's the poor ("poor white trash" et al). Because that's their culture.

Yah, no.

No, yeah. I wouldn't say it's entirely unique to white people, as Wrath has illustrated, but the western world's culture has its roots in exploitative capitalism, imperialism, etc.
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« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2016, 05:47:38 PM »
I agree Vom.

My problem is the emotion of hate. It is tiring and hurtful. How do I get past that emotion? It needs to go away.

Seek professional help. As in a therapist.

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #91 on: November 08, 2016, 05:50:28 PM »
More importantly

If I didn't tag myself voting on facebook did I even vote?  :huh
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« Reply #92 on: November 08, 2016, 05:51:22 PM »
Fuck that response. Seriously. It's like "whoa there, sure society created these pressures on you, gave you the genetic memories of oppression, but you can't talk about it in a public arena! That's for professionals to handle!" Nerve struck alert
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« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2016, 05:52:13 PM »
No, yeah. I wouldn't say it's entirely unique to white people, as Wrath has illustrated, but the western world's culture has its roots in exploitative capitalism, imperialism, etc.

For the record, China is just as exploitative and capitalistic as we are (these days.)

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« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2016, 05:53:09 PM »
Well, they gotta compete in a global market, right? Yeah humanity needs an overhaul
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« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2016, 05:53:17 PM »
Im happy to find out conquering other tribes is an exclusive past time of white people


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« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2016, 05:53:52 PM »
Literally no one said that
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« Reply #97 on: November 08, 2016, 05:56:06 PM »
Fuck that response. Seriously. It's like "whoa there, sure society created these pressures on you, gave you the genetic memories of oppression, but you can't talk about it in a public arena! That's for professionals to handle!" Nerve struck alert

genetic memories of oppression?? wtf is this, assassin's creed?

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #98 on: November 08, 2016, 05:57:14 PM »
Go back to the gaf thread plz

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« Reply #99 on: November 08, 2016, 05:57:30 PM »
As a white person, I'm constantly baffled by the hoops my fellow pale pals jump through to put blinders on to the majority culture of oppression and exploitation anytime someone labels it white
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« Reply #100 on: November 08, 2016, 05:58:30 PM »
Fuck that response. Seriously. It's like "whoa there, sure society created these pressures on you, gave you the genetic memories of oppression, but you can't talk about it in a public arena! That's for professionals to handle!" Nerve struck alert

genetic memories of oppression?? wtf is this, assassin's creed?

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« Reply #101 on: November 08, 2016, 05:58:57 PM »
strange its almost like its distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed racism making assumptions based on skin colour

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« Reply #102 on: November 08, 2016, 06:02:21 PM »
Go back to the gaf thread plz

why? did you just want your OP validated for you? Do you want us to all tell you it's ok to be racist? Like I said in my previous post in here, you seriously need to take a step back.

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« Reply #103 on: November 08, 2016, 06:02:57 PM »
You realize you look like a petulant child when you refuse to further discuss  or acknowledge exploitation and oppression because someone in a round about way grouped you in with the oppressors? Boo hoo not all whites, okay fine, some whites aren't actively, willingly causing oppression -- but it still exists.
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« Reply #104 on: November 08, 2016, 06:03:46 PM »
yo if black people want to stop getting harassed by cops maybe they should stop committing crimes like Fast and Furious, targeting people with the IRS, letting Iran get nuclear weapons, using the military too much, covering up Benghazi and Clinton e-mails, ruining health insurance with big government, deporting millions, murder droning Americans without trial, not reaching peace with Iran, murder droning foreigners just because, cutting the military to the bone, putting their feet on the people's desk, restricting the second amendment, importing illegals, NSA spying, Solyndra, etc.
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« Reply #105 on: November 08, 2016, 06:06:21 PM »
Fuck that response. Seriously. It's like "whoa there, sure society created these pressures on you, gave you the genetic memories of oppression, but you can't talk about it in a public arena! That's for professionals to handle!" Nerve struck alert

It doesn't sound too unreasonable to suggest that in response specifically to being eaten alive by a negative emotion you are not able to control.
I don't think anyone is saying that opinions & grievances at systemic racial issues can be adressed by medecine.
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« Reply #106 on: November 08, 2016, 06:07:59 PM »
Fair enough, like I said, it just strikes a nerve to me as it is a common occurrence in American culture for people's issues to be dismissed as clinical problems to be solved on a couch or with a bottle of pills
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« Reply #107 on: November 08, 2016, 06:09:41 PM »
Fuck that response. Seriously. It's like "whoa there, sure society created these pressures on you, gave you the genetic memories of oppression, but you can't talk about it in a public arena! That's for professionals to handle!" Nerve struck alert

It doesn't sound too unreasonable to suggest that in response specifically to being eaten alive by a negative emotion you are not able to control.
I don't think anyone is saying that opinions & grievances at systemic racial issues can be adressed by medecine.

I certainly agree. I don't think it's good. It's why I made the thread. But it is a strong emotion that I can't help.

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« Reply #108 on: November 08, 2016, 06:09:46 PM »
But a whole lot don't, too. I just explained to my parents the other day how our private prison industry is modern day de facto slavery, there's a huge group of white people who are ignorant to that kind of shit, willfully or not.

I know and I do agree with you. Just arguing against the whole blanket statement stuff. As active racial hatred is sadly common but not applicable to an entirety of a race. Lots of white people should learn, but I've learned to accept widespread ignorance as long as it doesn't lead to bodily harm.
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« Reply #109 on: November 08, 2016, 06:12:40 PM »
Yeah, I'm catching your wave. I'm just at the point where I feel if there's anyone who should be able to take a generalization on the chin and move past it to see the valid pain, criticisms, etc it's uncle whitey
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« Reply #110 on: November 08, 2016, 06:13:22 PM »
Great article that fully encompasses my views.

http://racebaitr.com/2015/10/09/why-i-dont-talk-to-white-people/

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« Reply #111 on: November 08, 2016, 06:14:07 PM »
lol I'm sorry but I giggled at the URL (gonna go read it now)
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« Reply #112 on: November 08, 2016, 06:14:45 PM »
Himuro, it seems you are becoming a radical. Usually this happens because of other issues but it manifests itself like this as you feel helpless to attend those.

Not saying these aren't real issues but usually there are other things that would make someone become radical.

Talking to a professional might help.

Im saying this as a guy that only vaguely has seen you post over the years, but you've never been this extreme.

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« Reply #113 on: November 08, 2016, 06:16:07 PM »
Yeah, I'm catching your wave. I'm just at the point where I feel if there's anyone who should be able to take a generalization on the chin and move past it to see the valid pain, criticisms, etc it's uncle whitey

I agree. Sorry white boreans, but I do kinda laugh at you when you get angry at being blanketed most of the time. Seems to be the easiest shit to brush off and ignored to me.

I won't hate y'all for it though, as much as it might bother you I see it as ignorance.
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« Reply #114 on: November 08, 2016, 06:17:28 PM »
You dont become number 1 world dominators by ignoring insults

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« Reply #116 on: November 08, 2016, 06:23:11 PM »
Yeah, I'm catching your wave. I'm just at the point where I feel if there's anyone who should be able to take a generalization on the chin and move past it to see the valid pain, criticisms, etc it's uncle whitey

I agree. Sorry white boreans, but I do kinda laugh at you when you get angry at being blanketed most of the time. Seems to be the easiest shit to brush off and ignored to me.

I won't hate y'all for it though, as much as it might bother you I see it as ignorance.

I'm just keen on being treated with the same respect that is being asked of me. I think that a mutual respect goes a long way, and if people want to be lazy and make blanket statements about the entirety of a race that I am a part of, then it does piss me off a bit. I'm an individual. I'm of Irish descent (and 1 drop rule and all that, I'm also a dash of Togo descent as well). Me being annoyed doesn't mean I'm ignoring anything either.

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #117 on: November 08, 2016, 06:25:27 PM »
Meh Nvm I didn't read everything and I'm not about to (this was a response to stufte at first)
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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #118 on: November 08, 2016, 06:31:54 PM »
Himuro, it seems you are becoming a radical. Usually this happens because of other issues but it manifests itself like this as you feel helpless to attend those.

Not saying these aren't real issues but usually there are other things that would make someone become radical.

Talking to a professional might help.

Im saying this as a guy that only vaguely has seen you post over the years, but you've never been this extreme.

Maybe I am becoming a radical. But to say I'm turning into a radical without justified phenomena or experience doesn't make much sense to me.

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Re: This US election, white people, and the aftermath
« Reply #119 on: November 08, 2016, 06:37:56 PM »
Yeah, I'm catching your wave. I'm just at the point where I feel if there's anyone who should be able to take a generalization on the chin and move past it to see the valid pain, criticisms, etc it's uncle whitey

I agree. Sorry white boreans, but I do kinda laugh at you when you get angry at being blanketed most of the time. Seems to be the easiest shit to brush off and ignored to me.

I won't hate y'all for it though, as much as it might bother you I see it as ignorance.

I'm just keen on being treated with the same respect that is being asked of me. I think that a mutual respect goes a long way, and if people want to be lazy and make blanket statements about the entirety of a race that I am a part of, then it does piss me off a bit. I'm an individual. I'm of Irish descent (and 1 drop rule and all that, I'm also a dash of Togo descent as well). Me being annoyed doesn't mean I'm ignoring anything either.

Dude, we're cool. You know that. I think we've had this discussion before. Hell, I'm defending white people in this very thread. Just saying that I won't lie about the fact that it's hard for me to relate to it since I've been treated with much worse and learned to brush it off.

I won't treat you awfully just because you're white, though. You'll be treated exactly like everybody else. I do get why it bothers you and others, though. Won't fully write it off, just saying that I find it comical personally.

And Himu, you know you're my gal. It really sucks that you feel that way and I hope you find the peace you crave.
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