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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Attorney-client privilege is DEAD!
« Reply #16680 on: April 12, 2018, 10:46:48 AM »
the_donald censored posts


It forever amuses me that The_Donald will simultaneously cry victim about how they are being oppressed on a private company's website that has no obligation to give them a platform, while they will censor/ban the fuck out of you the moment you attempt to speak ill of the chosen one or do any of the trolling/shitposting they want free reign to do on the rest of the site.

Funny enough, I tried to participate in a genuine conversation on The_Donald a few weeks back, but was banned after two posts for 'trolling' and 'not being a Trump supporter'.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984374422587965440

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He just wants to be loved.  :'(

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« Reply #16681 on: April 12, 2018, 10:59:26 AM »
How desperate is the RNC to setup(terribly) https://www.lyincomey.com/ before the book is released? They don't even know what's in it.
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« Reply #16682 on: April 12, 2018, 11:02:51 AM »
Thanks, Americabama.
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« Reply #16683 on: April 12, 2018, 11:10:58 AM »
It's not nonsensical. When you corner your enemies in a siege, they dig in as much as possible. Any attempts to take the rest of the city are suicidal. Look at how long it took to take Mosul from ISIS. Now imagine you can gas them out like rats.

Also worth pointing out that the insurgents basically abandoned Douma in the days immediately after the gas attack, which seems like an odd choice if they'd staged it themselves in order to draw in the US.

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« Reply #16687 on: April 12, 2018, 04:48:52 PM »
Dino's gonna be found floating face-down in the Potomac in a few weeks.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Everyone is Bolton for the exits.
« Reply #16688 on: April 12, 2018, 04:50:43 PM »
I doubt it Rumbler. I don't see what motive Hillary would have to kill him (like she did with Seth Rich) ((allegedly)) (((not allegedly)))

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« Reply #16689 on: April 12, 2018, 05:01:15 PM »


 :neogaf
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« Reply #16690 on: April 12, 2018, 05:07:39 PM »
Dronabinol is used clinically pretty much as an appetite stimulant. Get more junk in dat trunk baes.
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« Reply #16691 on: April 12, 2018, 05:11:42 PM »
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“He brought up what he called the ‘golden showers thing’ … adding that it bothered him if there was ‘even a one percent chance’ his wife, Melania, thought it was true,” Comey writes in “A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership,” a copy of which was obtained by The Post.

“He just rolled on, unprompted, explaining why it couldn’t possibly be true, ending by saying he was thinking of asking me to investigate the allegation to prove it was a lie. I said it was up to him.”

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Comey says he warned Trump an investigation might “create a narrative that we were investigating him personally,” the former top G-man writes.

The president replied that he “might be right” — but kept asking him to consider the idea, and said he would as well, according to Comey.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/12/comey-trump-asked-me-to-investigate-pee-tape-to-reassure-melania/

 :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #16692 on: April 12, 2018, 05:23:14 PM »

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« Reply #16693 on: April 12, 2018, 05:24:11 PM »
Before the 70's US was manipulating the UN into doing shit like Suez
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« Reply #16694 on: April 12, 2018, 05:34:56 PM »
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“He brought up what he called the ‘golden showers thing’ … adding that it bothered him if there was ‘even a one percent chance’ his wife, Melania, thought it was true,” Comey writes in “A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership,” a copy of which was obtained by The Post.

“He just rolled on, unprompted, explaining why it couldn’t possibly be true, ending by saying he was thinking of asking me to investigate the allegation to prove it was a lie. I said it was up to him.”

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Comey says he warned Trump an investigation might “create a narrative that we were investigating him personally,” the former top G-man writes.

The president replied that he “might be right” — but kept asking him to consider the idea, and said he would as well, according to Comey.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/12/comey-trump-asked-me-to-investigate-pee-tape-to-reassure-melania/

 :lol :lol :lol

So the Pee Pee tape is real.

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« Reply #16695 on: April 12, 2018, 05:48:07 PM »
Expect President Trump to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in the next few days. Maybe he won’t do it. Maybe he’ll change his mind.
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« Reply #16696 on: April 12, 2018, 05:57:24 PM »
Expect President Trump to sacrifice millions to the Blood God Khorne in the next few days. Maybe he won't do it. Maybe he'll change his mind.

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« Reply #16697 on: April 12, 2018, 06:02:09 PM »
Expect President Trump to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in the next few days. Maybe he won’t do it. Maybe he’ll change his mind.
:trumps

I was reading that earlier, click-bait opening aside, his central thesis is a legitimate one.....Though it's one that has been made like every week for a year. Though you as your Benji self is probably not really concerned with  :-*

But it does seem like he is inching very near his Saturday Night Massacre. And the Republicans are going to bend in cowardice like they have at every step of the way. Having done enough to get 40% of the country to go along with it. Between Cohen, the reported Bannon stuff and the CBS report that he is ordering people to go on TV to specifically make the case for firing Rosenstein/Mueller, this feels a step further than any of the ground-setting that has come before.


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« Reply #16699 on: April 12, 2018, 06:31:03 PM »
Expect President Trump to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in the next few days. Maybe he won’t do it. Maybe he’ll change his mind.
:trumps

I was reading that earlier, click-bait opening aside, his central thesis is a legitimate one.....Though it's one that has been made like every week for a year. Though you as your Benji self is probably not really concerned with  :-*

But it does seem like he is inching very near his Saturday Night Massacre. And the Republicans are going to bend in cowardice like they have at every step of the way. Having done enough to get 40% of the country to go along with it. Between Cohen, the reported Bannon stuff and the CBS report that he is ordering people to go on TV to specifically make the case for firing Rosenstein/Mueller, this feels a step further than any of the ground-setting that has come before.

My fellow Americans today is a great day because America is great again. But some places are not so great, believe me. Babies are choking in their own blood, mothers torn away from their families. Children crawling in the streets gasping for air. We've all seen images of the horrors of Syria. First there was ISIS. Which is by the way almost defeated. But the Animal Assad has decided that now that ISIS is gone he can kill without consequences. He's protected by Iran and Russia who think they can get away with murdering innocents. The United States does not stand for such horror and hatred. We are a peaceful nation only looking to share the flames of liberty and freedom with the world. Such are our values and the values of our allies. Today I have decided. I've made the decision to launch a military strike against Syria. Our allies France, JAPAN and the United Kingdom stand with the United States as we fight to protect the freedom of Syrian children and their mothers. I thank our great secretary of defense, James Mattis and our new National Security Advisor who's doing a terrific job, John Bolton. I also thank our men and women in uniform, French President Macaroni.. Macron and Theresay May. The British president. Also Rosenstein, Jeff Sessions and Mueller are fired from their posts effective immediately. Thank you, god bless you and god bless the United States of America and its wonderful allies as we come together as one in unity to protect the world. I ask all of you to put these wonderful people into your prayers tonight. 
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« Reply #16700 on: April 12, 2018, 06:31:39 PM »
So, Cohen is now asking for an emergency stay in the stormy Daniels case and is planning to plead the fif if it doesn’t go through.

He’s probably fucked.

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« Reply #16701 on: April 12, 2018, 06:34:09 PM »
So, Cohen is now asking for an emergency stay in the stormy Daniels case and is planning to plead the fif if it doesn’t go through.

He’s probably fucked.
All that for paying off a pornstar?  :neogaf
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Attorney-client privilege is DEAD!
« Reply #16702 on: April 12, 2018, 07:11:33 PM »
I prefer 'Make attornies get attornies'

Attorneys.

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« Reply #16704 on: April 12, 2018, 07:36:35 PM »
https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/984575109926129667
This dumbfuck probably taped everything  :dead
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« Reply #16706 on: April 12, 2018, 09:57:38 PM »
Expect President Trump to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in the next few days. Maybe he won’t do it. Maybe he’ll change his mind.
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I’m firing Rosenstein, change my mind.
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« Reply #16708 on: April 12, 2018, 10:40:36 PM »
 :dunno  :beli

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« Reply #16709 on: April 12, 2018, 11:11:45 PM »
I can’t believe the peetape is real.

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« Reply #16711 on: April 12, 2018, 11:24:54 PM »
but Libby's sentence was already commuted by Bush...and he "admitted" to no wrong doing...a pardon comes with an admission of guilt? :doge

(look if you're going to disagree with this interpretation re: pardons/guilt, just know that Zombie Gerald Ford is going to crawl out of his grave, show you that clipping he carried around for the rest of his life and then probably eat your brain or something)

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« Reply #16712 on: April 12, 2018, 11:40:38 PM »
Well, at least this confirms to me he knows he did something wrong and he is blatantly cockteasing pardons.

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« Reply #16713 on: April 12, 2018, 11:49:01 PM »
Seems most observers I follow(that have been pretty accurate on this sort of speculation) think this is a signaling move to the Cohen's, Manaforts, and Flynn's. A much more overt one than Joe Arpaio.

That not surprisingly, is probably stupidly risky and not likely going to be that effective. Since all those people are also facing state charges(or potential state charges) and there are so many leaks on this ship, and Trump's people don't even know the extent of it, so they have no idea where to plug, and dangling pardons is already something Mueller has signaled he will consider attempts to obstruct justice.



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« Reply #16714 on: April 12, 2018, 11:50:05 PM »
Is there a reason for this besides sending a signal that Trump's willing to pardon Manafort et al?

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« Reply #16715 on: April 12, 2018, 11:53:00 PM »
Is there a reason for this besides sending a signal that Trump's willing to pardon Manafort et al?

Not really. Scooter already got his voting rights restored and his BAR license reinstated, there's nothing substantive left that a pardon would change at this point.
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« Reply #16716 on: April 12, 2018, 11:53:05 PM »
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Since the conviction, Libby has since had his law license restored and former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell restored his voting rights in 2013.

Many conservatives have been urging a pardon for Libby, including attorneys Joe diGenova and his wife, Victoria Toensing.
okay, i get the last one sorta...but everyone else...why? it's not like the dude works in an industry where criminal convictions are an automatic disqualifier

edit: ARGH DOG

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« Reply #16717 on: April 12, 2018, 11:55:57 PM »
NEVERMIND, FOUND THE ANSWER:


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The Apprentice takes place in a remote mountain inn in northernmost Japan, where a raging blizzard has brought together wayfarers who share only fear and suspicion of one another. It is the winter of 1903, the country is beset with smallpox and war is brewing with Russia.

In the flickering shadows of the crowded room, the apprentice, charged with running the inn during the owner's absence, finds himself strongly attracted to one of the performers lodged there. His involvement with the mysterious travelers plunges him headlong into murder, passion and heart-stopping chases through the snow.
Quote from: Scooter Libby, to Larry King
I first wrote it in Japan -- contemporary Japan -- in college for a credit. Had a good reason -- I wanted to graduate. ... But the story sort of wouldn't let me go, and I sort of said, why am I writing about -- this about Japan? ... And I went back and rewrote the book entirely in New England -- set in New England. Went out to Colorado, drank tequila and wrote. And sort of the dream life. ... But what eventually happened was, that didn't seem right. I took that 300 pages and threw it away, never showed it. [KING: It's a classic first novel.] ... And then I started to think, you know, what I need is more distance for the characters, more sort of isolation. I wanted a land before telephones, before fingerprints -- give the reader even a greater sense [of isolation].
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Although the sexual passages and references make up only a few pages of the novel, one passage in particular — combining zoophilia, pedophilia, prostitution, biastophilia, and voyeurism in just three sentences—has received wide attention:

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At age ten the madam put the child in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest. Groups of men paid to watch. (81)[3][9]

Another sentence in the book introduces necrophilia in addition to zoophilia, as a hunter copulates with a freshly killed deer: "The man called out to the others that the deer was still warm. He asked if they should fuck the deer" (127)


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In his June 7, 2007 Wall Street Journal op-ed calling for Presidential pardon of Scooter Libby, conservative academic Fouad Ajami praised The Apprentice as a "remarkably lyrical novel ... [which] bears witness to an eye for human folly and disappointment."

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« Reply #16718 on: April 12, 2018, 11:57:47 PM »
Seems most observers I follow(that have been pretty accurate on this sort of speculation) think this is a signaling move to the Cohen's, Manaforts, and Flynn's. A much more overt one than Joe Arpaio.

That not surprisingly, is probably stupidly risky and not likely going to be that effective. Since all those people are also facing state charges(or potential state charges) and there are so many leaks on this ship, and Trump's people don't even know the extent of it, so they have no idea where to plug, and dangling pardons is already something Mueller has signaled he will consider attempts to obstruct justice.

That is the thing, we already know that Mueller is going to argue that the pardons are obstruction. Mueller probably already has better evidence than just speculation. What the fuck is Trump thinking outside telling everyone that he is going to pardon any scumbag?

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« Reply #16719 on: April 12, 2018, 11:59:06 PM »
Is there a reason for this besides sending a signal that Trump's willing to pardon Manafort et al?

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Marcy Wheeler seems to lay out a pretty convincing theory/context, which basically amounts to that, yes, which I was largely quoting from(along some random lawyer's and Lawfare people I was reading tweets from).

https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/04/12/the-libby-pardon-trumps-object-lesson-in-presidential-firewalls/

I am struggling to think of any other logic? Though this is Trump, so the idea that rationality is absent is not out of the question.

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« Reply #16720 on: April 13, 2018, 12:00:58 AM »
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What Libby's full name is, about which he has been secretive, is unclear.[9][18] He was prosecuted as I. Lewis Libby, also known as "Scooter Libby."
wait, how is this a thing considering his career

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« Reply #16721 on: April 13, 2018, 12:02:32 AM »
Is there a reason for this besides sending a signal that Trump's willing to pardon Manafort et al?

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Marcy Wheeler seems to lay out a pretty convincing theory/context, that I was largely quoting from(along some random lawyer's and Lawfare people I was reading tweets from).

https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/04/12/the-libby-pardon-trumps-object-lesson-in-presidential-firewalls/

I am struggling to think of any other logic? Though this is Trump, so the idea that rationality is absent is not out of the question.

Maybe is Bannon idea, it seems that he is trying to get back in good terms with Trump (and this is stupid and alt right enough to come from a guy that shit talked his boss on record).

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« Reply #16722 on: April 13, 2018, 12:04:14 AM »
for shastakavich: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2006/08/plame_out.html
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Plame Out
The ridiculous end to the scandal that distracted Washington.
By Christopher Hitchens

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But now we have the final word on who diddisclose the name and occupation of Valerie Plame, and it turns out to be someone whose opposition to the Bush policy in Iraq has—like Robert Novak's—long been a byword in Washington. It is particularly satisfying that this admission comes from two of the journalists—Michael Isikoff and David Corn—who did the most to get the story wrong in the first place and the most to keep it going long beyond the span of its natural life.

As most of us have long suspected, the man who told Novak about Valerie Plame was Richard Armitage, Colin Powell's deputy at the State Department and, with his boss, an assiduous underminer of the president's war policy. (His and Powell's—and George Tenet's—fingerprints are all over Bob Woodward's "insider" accounts of post-9/11 policy planning, which helps clear up another nonmystery: Woodward's revelation several months ago that he had known all along about the Wilson-Plame connection and considered it to be no big deal.)

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What does emerge from Hubris is further confirmation of what we knew all along: the extraordinary venom of the interdepartmental rivalry that has characterized this administration. In particular, the bureaucracy at the State Department and the CIA appear to have used the indiscretion of Armitage to revenge themselves on the "neoconservatives" who had been advocating the removal of Saddam Hussein. Armitage identified himself to Colin Powell as Novak's source before the Fitzgerald inquiry had even been set on foot. The whole thing could—and should—have ended right there. But now read this and rub your eyes: William Howard Taft, the State Department's lawyer who had been told about Armitage (and who had passed on the name to the Justice Department) also felt obligated to inform White House counsel Alberto Gonzales. But Powell and his aides feared the White House would then leak that Armitage had been Novak's source—possibly to embarrass State Department officials who had been unenthusiastic about Bush's Iraq policy. So Taft told Gonzales the bare minimum: that the State Department had passed some information about the case to Justice. He didn't mention Armitage.
sounds like typical DEEP STATE operations to me

also pretty impressive that the former President was able to continue to be a State Department lawyer some 70 years after he died

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« Reply #16723 on: April 13, 2018, 12:05:05 AM »
"So this is how bad the news media is, Fox News is now the beacon of reasonable thought on war"





God, I love Jimmy Dore. What a coincidence though, corporate media have once again united to support another war. It's as if these fucks are organized or something.

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« Reply #16724 on: April 13, 2018, 12:10:52 AM »
jimmy dore entrances me with one simple thing

his constant pointing to the OBVIOUS THING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT especially when it's a video, i'm like a minute and a half into this video and we're probably already approaching 15 points or other indications at the content behind him which is the only thing other than him on the screen

can't get that in corporate media, they don't even play videos behind themselves that i know of

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« Reply #16725 on: April 13, 2018, 12:12:33 AM »
"So this is how bad the news media is, Fox News is now the beacon of reasonable thought on war"





God, I love Jimmy Dore. What a coincidence though, corporate media have once again united to support another war. It's as if these fucks are organized or something.

Why the fuck are you promoting Fox News for not liking going to war? the majority of the Republican voter base is already against it. Ben Garrison is against and nobody is saying “he is not so bad”.

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« Reply #16726 on: April 13, 2018, 12:12:45 AM »

Maybe is Bannon idea, it seems that he is trying to get back in good terms with Trump (and this is stupid and alt right enough to come from a guy that shit talked his boss on record).
Might be.

He supposedly has his ear again and is having strategizing sessions. He's also leaning on DiGenova more and more it seems.

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« Reply #16727 on: April 13, 2018, 12:20:35 AM »
lol i didn't connect the obvious dots in the prior post
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Many conservatives have been urging a pardon for Libby, including attorneys Joe diGenova and his wife, Victoria Toensing.
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On March 19, 2018, diGenova and his spouse, Victoria Toensing, were hired to serve on Trump's legal team for the Special Counsel investigation.

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« Reply #16728 on: April 13, 2018, 12:21:48 AM »
Optimus worshipping Jimmy Dore like some omnipotent minister of "the truth" explains so much all of the sudden.

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« Reply #16729 on: April 13, 2018, 12:26:17 AM »
lol i didn't connect the obvious dots in the prior post
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Many conservatives have been urging a pardon for Libby, including attorneys Joe diGenova and his wife, Victoria Toensing.
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On March 19, 2018, diGenova and his spouse, Victoria Toensing, were hired to serve on Trump's legal team for the Special Counsel investigation.

Maybe this is the reason they “couldn’t” join afterwards is because they don’t want to be directly involved in case that it backfires?

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« Reply #16730 on: April 13, 2018, 12:27:35 AM »
Why the fuck are you promoting Fox News for not liking going to war?
It's not even Fox, it's Tucker Carlson, who's always had an anti-war streak*. The rest of Fox's programming can't wait to carpet bomb the Middle East if only these damn deep state investigators would get out of Trump's way.

*He initially supported Iraq but turned on it so fast he refused to support Bush and Kerry in 2004 for both being for it still and has written a few pieces over the years about how ashamed he was to have participated in supporting the war including considering himself partially complicit in the disaster.

He even has the blessing of Justin Raimondo, making his credentials bulletproof. (lolbertarian inside joke)

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« Reply #16731 on: April 13, 2018, 12:32:50 AM »
Yeah pretty much the entire reason we had all those alarming(and contradictory) hawkish Syria/Russia tweets from Trump apparently came because he was watching Fox and Friends again.

....His favorite time to tweet:

https://twitter.com/patrickthealba/status/936708424208805889

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« Reply #16732 on: April 13, 2018, 12:35:37 AM »
"So this is how bad the news media is, Fox News is now the beacon of reasonable thought on war"

God, I love Jimmy Dore. What a coincidence though, corporate media have once again united to support another war. It's as if these fucks are organized or something.

Why the fuck are you promoting Fox News for not liking going to war? the majority of the Republican voter base is already against it. Ben Garrison is against and nobody is saying “he is not so bad”.


Fox News and the rest of corporate media are supporting the war, Carlson, Garrison and a lot of Trump supporters aren't because they might be rightwingers but they're anti-establishment rightwing. Which btw makes them less brainwashed than the idiot liberals who support this shit which to me is shocking. Rightwingers being the voice of reason about war is an extinction level event, we might as well give up on humanity right now.


jimmy dore entrances me with one simple thing

his constant pointing to the OBVIOUS THING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT especially when it's a video, i'm like a minute and a half into this video and we're probably already approaching 15 points or other indications at the content behind him which is the only thing other than him on the screen

can't get that in corporate media, they don't even play videos behind themselves that i know of

Well, his main schtick is commenting on corporate media and the political status quo so of course he's gonna do that.

Boredfrom

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« Reply #16733 on: April 13, 2018, 12:44:14 AM »
"So this is how bad the news media is, Fox News is now the beacon of reasonable thought on war"

God, I love Jimmy Dore. What a coincidence though, corporate media have once again united to support another war. It's as if these fucks are organized or something.

Why the fuck are you promoting Fox News for not liking going to war? the majority of the Republican voter base is already against it. Ben Garrison is against and nobody is saying “he is not so bad”.


Fox News and the rest of corporate media are supporting the war, Carlson, Garrison and a lot of Trump supporters aren't because they might be rightwingers but they're anti-establishment rightwing. Which btw makes them less brainwashed than the idiot liberals who support this shit which to me is shocking. Rightwingers being the voice of reason about war is an extinction level event, we might as well give up on humanity right now.


jimmy dore entrances me with one simple thing

his constant pointing to the OBVIOUS THING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT especially when it's a video, i'm like a minute and a half into this video and we're probably already approaching 15 points or other indications at the content behind him which is the only thing other than him on the screen

can't get that in corporate media, they don't even play videos behind themselves that i know of

Well, his main schtick is commenting on corporate media and the political status quo so of course he's gonna do that.

So you concede that being part of a news network doesn’t necessarily means not having opinions on your own?

Nola

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« Reply #16734 on: April 13, 2018, 12:46:01 AM »
Define corporate media for me Optimus? Because you never really do.

When you use that term are you just parroting Dore? Or do you have a working definition that you actually vet before you make these routine sweeping generalizations?

And lol at the guy who is representing Murdoch and Foster Freiss being "anti-establishment."

Mandark

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« Reply #16735 on: April 13, 2018, 12:48:30 AM »
I mostly remember Justin Raimando from being a semi-troll on an obscure wrestling forum back in the day.

benjipwns

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« Reply #16736 on: April 13, 2018, 12:48:52 AM »
Well, his main schtick is commenting on corporate media and the political status quo so of course he's gonna do that.
you don't have to physically point and gesture at it

that kind of thing is what led to Suez

Optimus

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Everyone is Bolton for the exits.
« Reply #16737 on: April 13, 2018, 12:51:09 AM »
"So this is how bad the news media is, Fox News is now the beacon of reasonable thought on war"

God, I love Jimmy Dore. What a coincidence though, corporate media have once again united to support another war. It's as if these fucks are organized or something.

Why the fuck are you promoting Fox News for not liking going to war? the majority of the Republican voter base is already against it. Ben Garrison is against and nobody is saying “he is not so bad”.


Fox News and the rest of corporate media are supporting the war, Carlson, Garrison and a lot of Trump supporters aren't because they might be rightwingers but they're anti-establishment rightwing. Which btw makes them less brainwashed than the idiot liberals who support this shit which to me is shocking. Rightwingers being the voice of reason about war is an extinction level event, we might as well give up on humanity right now.


jimmy dore entrances me with one simple thing

his constant pointing to the OBVIOUS THING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT especially when it's a video, i'm like a minute and a half into this video and we're probably already approaching 15 points or other indications at the content behind him which is the only thing other than him on the screen

can't get that in corporate media, they don't even play videos behind themselves that i know of

Well, his main schtick is commenting on corporate media and the political status quo so of course he's gonna do that.

So you concede that being part of a news network doesn’t necessarily means not having opinions on your own?


I concede that Fox News made a mistake with Carlson, a mistake they'll likely correct in the future when they find a good chance and if he continues to go against the narrative.


Define corporate media for me Optimus? Because you never really do.

When you use that term are you just parroting Dore? Or do you have a working definition that you actually vet before you make these routine sweeping generalizations?

And lol at the guy who is representing Murdoch and Foster Freiss being "anti-establishment."

No, I'm parroting leftist ideology, actual leftist ideology. Maybe status quo media is a more self explanatory term for you? How about media controlled by the American ruling class?

Boredfrom

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Everyone is Bolton for the exits.
« Reply #16738 on: April 13, 2018, 12:55:58 AM »
"So this is how bad the news media is, Fox News is now the beacon of reasonable thought on war"

God, I love Jimmy Dore. What a coincidence though, corporate media have once again united to support another war. It's as if these fucks are organized or something.

Why the fuck are you promoting Fox News for not liking going to war? the majority of the Republican voter base is already against it. Ben Garrison is against and nobody is saying “he is not so bad”.


Fox News and the rest of corporate media are supporting the war, Carlson, Garrison and a lot of Trump supporters aren't because they might be rightwingers but they're anti-establishment rightwing. Which btw makes them less brainwashed than the idiot liberals who support this shit which to me is shocking. Rightwingers being the voice of reason about war is an extinction level event, we might as well give up on humanity right now.


jimmy dore entrances me with one simple thing

his constant pointing to the OBVIOUS THING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT especially when it's a video, i'm like a minute and a half into this video and we're probably already approaching 15 points or other indications at the content behind him which is the only thing other than him on the screen

can't get that in corporate media, they don't even play videos behind themselves that i know of

Well, his main schtick is commenting on corporate media and the political status quo so of course he's gonna do that.

So you concede that being part of a news network doesn’t necessarily means not having opinions on your own?


I concede that Fox News made a mistake with Carlson, a mistake they'll likely correct in the future when they find a good chance and if he continues to go against the narrative.


lol what? It sounds like this guy has been anti war while sucking GOP and Trump otherwise...

Optimus

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Everyone is Bolton for the exits.
« Reply #16739 on: April 13, 2018, 12:58:24 AM »
No, I'm parroting leftist ideology, actual leftist ideology.

Newsfeed.

The US government and the shady fucks behind it are bad. 12:55 AM Friday April 13, 2018

Corporate media don't care about the truth 12:57 AM Friday April 13, 2018

Don't trust them you fucking morons 12:59 AM Friday April 13, 2018



I'll keep you updated.