US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Wow, pete has been studying Obama's mannerisms and facial expressions a lot.

What a fucking fake.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1227417402167742466


 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

"Finest team in politics"

[Great Rumbler]

Kills me how Pete talks like a Coke commercial. Everything he says is just some generic platitude

THE SHAPE OF OUR DEMOCRACY IS THE ISSUE THAT SHAPES ALL OTHERS

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Bernie wins. Delegate tie though.

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/11/21126941/new-hampshire-primary-results-2020

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Rallying around center-aisle politics with republicans in power.

wow.

[Transhuman]

Two wins in a row and y'all still getting greedy

This win needs to be decisive because Iowa was basically a tie. What are you talking about win?

More votes (and more SDE/delegates after recanvas probably, as long as they fix that bad math and don't try to pretend fixing it is unconstitutional or whatever) counts if you ask the voters.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Will wait for satellite primaries to make up the margin.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1227446299794006017

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1227446299794006017

I think bernie needs to stress the point, that when he wins, those will be the people who will be in the executive branch to help transform systems.

He hasn't really touched on that point. He has mentioned it, and people always laugh like "lol you're gonna put farmers running the department of agriculture".

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hire me bernie for digital outreach, i'm bire tested

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[james]

Two wins in a row and y'all still getting greedy

Agreed. Onwards and upwards to the convention

[EightBitNate]

Haven’t watched live TV in years...forgot about that thing where commercials sometimes get cut off after a second. Never understood why that happens.

[Himu]

Nevada projections

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/nevada/

[kingv]

Interesting thing about Bernie is he might have the most straightforward path to victory in a way no one really predicted a few months ago.

Buttigieg is just going to get blown the fuck out in the south, and Biden is looking really weak elsewhere but Berndawg can probably get his 20-30% as a floor in every state.

[Himu]

Interesting thing about Bernie is he might have the most straightforward path to victory in a way no one really predicted a few months ago.

Buttigieg is just going to get blown the fuck out in the south, and Biden is looking really weak elsewhere but Berndawg can probably get his 20-30% as a floor in every state.

You're underestimating Bloomberg.

Consider every election life or death and don't get cocky. Donate and volunteer.

[tiesto]

If Bloomer buys his way to victory, I'd be so disgusted.

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/goodopinionhavr/status/1227440968061931527

[Tripon]

Bloomberg needs a lot of rehab in generic minds in America. I still remember him as the mayor who tried to ban soda. Dude needed at least a year trying to reinvent himself, I still maintain this is just a test run for 2024.

[benjipwns]

holy shit Amy for America

[tiesto]

Bloomberg needs a lot of rehab in generic minds in America. I still remember him as the mayor who tried to ban soda. Dude needed at least a year trying to reinvent himself, I still maintain this is just a test run for 2024.

I feel that NYC mayors frequently overestimate their appeal to the rest of the country... remember how bad Rudy flopped when he ran? And that guy may have been NYs most famous mayor ever.

[Tripon]

Shot.

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1227457253365682178

Chaser.

https://twitter.com/dankgdl/status/1227460747397095424

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https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1227451744571002881

[benjipwns]

Bloomberg will be 82 in 2024.

It's also personal with Trump (and Rudy) which it won't be later.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1227456706759790593

There's this odd part of right wing twitter where they try to concern troll Bernie's wealth. They can't even convince themselves of what they're typing.

[OnlyRegret]

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1227432907477831680

[Mandark]

Looks like turnout is going to beat 2016 and probably 2008 as well which is nice after Iowa.

[benjipwns]

I feel that NYC mayors frequently overestimate their appeal to the rest of the country... remember how bad Rudy flopped when he ran? And that guy may have been NYs most famous mayor ever.

New York Mayors aren't as bad as New York Governors and Senators at the Presidential level, only recently have Mayors thought it made them national material by itself. New York in general has a losing record, and even that's propped up by FDR. Using "primaries" here to also mean conventions and caucuses.

Mayors:
John Lindsay (lost primaries... also Representative)
Rudy Giuliani (lost primaries)
Michael Bloomberg (tbd)
Bill de Blasio (lost primaries)

Governors, Senators, etc.

Governors:
George Clinton (lost primaries, became VP)
Horatio Seymour (lost election)
Samuel Tilden (had rigged election stolen from him)
Grover Cleveland (won presidency, lost re-election, won election again)
Theodore Roosevelt (became VP, president killed, won re-election, lost primaries, lost third-party bid)
Charles Evans Hughes (lost election)
Al Smith (lost primaries, lost election, lost primaries)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (won election, won re-election, won re-election, won re-election)
Thomas Dewey (lost primaries, lost election, lost election)
Averell Harriman (lost primaries, lost primaries)
Nelson Rockefeller (lost primaries, lost primaries, lost primaries, became VP)
Hugh Carey (lost primaries... also Representative)
George Pataki (lost primaries)

Senators:
Aaron Burr (became VP, tried for treason)
Rufus King (lost election)
DeWitt Clinton (lost a one-issue campaign... also Mayor of NYC, also Governor)
Martin Van Buren (became VP, won presidency, lost re-election, lost primaries, lost third-party bid... also Governor)
William Marcy (lost primaries... also Governor)
William Seward (lost primaries... also Governor)
Roscoe Conkling (lost primaries)
David Hill (lost primaries... also Governor)
Royal Copeland (lost primaries)
Robert Kennedy (lost life)
Hillary Clinton (lost primaries, lost election)
Kirsten Gillibrand (lost primaries)

Representatives:
Millard Fillmore (became VP, president died, lost primaries, lost third-party bid)
Horace Greeley (lost election so bad he died)
Shirley Chisholm (lost primaries)
Jack Kemp (lost primaries)

Chief Judge of Court of Appeals:
Alton Parker (lost election)

Collector of the Port of New York:
Chester Arthur (became VP, president killed)

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New York has had five "major" non-office candidates, they've done better in general actually:
Wendall Willkie (lost election, moved to Indiana)
Richard Nixon (moved from California, won election, won re-election, forced to resign by the CIA)
Steve Forbes (moved from New Jersey, lost primaries)
Al Sharpton (lost primaries, moved to MSNBC)
Donald Trump (won election, moved to Florida)
Andrew Yang (lost primaries)

Three dudes account for eight of New York's eleven presidential wins. They went 8-1. The rest have combined for 3-13. I didn't count Tilden either way. New York's had a superior rate at getting to the Presidency through the President dying, they've got three of them (Fillmore, Arthur, Roosevelt) which is more than any state.

edit: New York seems to be increasing in "serious" candidates as it's become less of a swing state. That was one reason it used to get VP slots. That actually makes me wonder about nominated candidates and swing states in general. McCain is the only one so far this century actually. Massachusetts (twice), New York (twice in the same election), Illinois, and Texas have been the sources of nominees otherwise. Vermont isn't a swing state. Minnesota is kinda not one either.

[Mandark]

Nixon was a resident of New York when he was successfully elected President

[benjipwns]

That actually perverts New York's record even more.

[Lonewulfeus]

Hillary Clinton (lost primaries, lost election)

And Grover Cleveland was a NJ native

[benjipwns]

If she becomes the nominee at a contested convention she can match Dewey!

[benjipwns]

Michigan is the only state to have a President who never won an election.

[Mandark]

Looks like turnout is going to beat 2016 and probably 2008 as well which is nice after Iowa.

Just realized this is probably inflated by the GOP side not having a competitive primary this cycle so independents in NH's open primary would be more likely to vote on the Dem side. Also population growth obv. Still probably a better sign than Iowa was.

[Mandark]

Michigan is the only state to have a President who never won an election.

Wrong again!

Gerald Ford won like a dozen elections.

[benjipwns]

That would just raise the question of if 95% of House elections are really elections after the first one.

[benjipwns]

[BIONIC]

Listen, fat! The only stench of death I smelled was after I took out Corn Pop while his children were gently caressing my leg hair

[benjipwns]

HELLO AMERICA!

[Occam]

By the way, there's a new Buttigieg simulator on Nintendo Switch:

[Occam]

Love this WaPo headline that accurately reflects the gravity of the situation:
"Prosecutors quit Stone case, raising questions about politicization at Justice Dept."

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1227362893152342016
 

[Occam]

But everything he says fits Trump. Trump voters really are a special case of deranged.

[benjipwns]

Trump is super pro-life now buddy.

[benjipwns]

Weld got 9% against 86% for Trump in the GOP primary. Seems about right.

Back in the Dems primary:

The percentage of young voters actually declined from 2016 to 2020 in New Hampshire, from 19 percent to 14 percent. Independents were a larger share of the electorate, but they did not break nearly as decisively for Sanders as they did in 2016. He received support from just 29 percent of self-described independents this time, as opposed to 73 percent (!) in 2016. Buttigieg, who is derided by Sanders supporters as “Mayo Pete” and “Wall Street Pete,” ran competitively with that group at 24 percent.

At her election-night party in Concord on Tuesday evening, I talked to a typical member of this curious species: a woman who voted for Sanders in 2016, was contemplating Buttigieg late in the process, and settled on Klobuchar the morning she voted. As of late Tuesday, Klobuchar had raised $5 million since the last debate. She will surely raise a lot more this week. She is staffing up to send organizers into the field in states where she has had no presence. She — and Sanders and Buttigieg — will face a heightened level of scrutiny in the days ahead. But after months of false starts, the long-predicted Klobuchar moment finally arrived.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/profcarroll/status/1227492874608005123

[BIONIC]

[ToxicAdam]

That’s it then. No winner of Iowa and NH has went on to lose the party nom in modern times.

[benjipwns]

I didn't watch the debate or anything but NH voters saw something they liked. That's when she went from her slow rise in the polls into that explosion of overdrive, she got $5 million in donations right after the debate, and then as Biden and Warren collapsed it shot her up even more to ~20%.

A month ago she was tied with Tulsi and Yang at 4%. Then barely got above them to 5% for two more weeks or so.

She must have become a lot of Biden second-choices.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/MCaruso_Cabrera/status/1227258780431327232

Former CNBC anchor Michelle Caruso-Cabrera is hoping to knock Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., out in this year's primary, as she runs to take New York's 14th congressional district.

[benjipwns]

(Image removed from quote.)

FACT CHECK:

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1227561237782855680

Oh shit Bill Barr caught in the Trumpnado

[thisismyusername]

I didn't watch the debate or anything but NH voters saw something they liked. That's when she went from her slow rise in the polls into that explosion of overdrive, she got $5 million in donations right after the debate, and then as Biden and Warren collapsed it shot her up even more to ~20%.

A month ago she was tied with Tulsi and Yang at 4%. Then barely got above them to 5% for two more weeks or so.

She must have become a lot of Biden second-choices.

Bidet voters taking the Grey pill. You hate to see it.

[Transhuman]

https://twitter.com/MCaruso_Cabrera/status/1227258780431327232

Former CNBC anchor Michelle Caruso-Cabrera is hoping to knock Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., out in this year's primary, as she runs to take New York's 14th congressional district.

She's challenging AOC? AOC is waaay hotter. I don't get it.

[Rman]

Why are people panicking about Pete closing on Bernie? It's one of the whitest states in the country. The political analysis from the talking heads has been horrendous. 

I guess that's' the issue with corporate news. They want to create these fake dramatic storylines.

[benjipwns]

Then came Friday night’s debate.

With roughly eight million people watching, Ms. Klobuchar challenged rivals like Pete Buttigieg (“a cool newcomer”) and drew contrasts with her more progressive rivals. As the marathon debate came to a close, her voice steady yet infused with the strained exhaustion of a Democrat in the Trump era, Ms. Klobuchar promised to bring compassion to the White House.

“There is a complete lack of empathy in this guy in the White House right now, and I will bring that to you,” she said onstage in Manchester. “If you have trouble stretching your paycheck to pay for that rent, I know you, and I will fight for you.”

It was a verifiable “moment,” with many political analysts calling it one of the most memorable deliveries of the debate. The campaign pounced, moving quickly on Friday night to turn the debate line into Ms. Klobuchar’s final ad in New Hampshire. In less than 24 hours, after an overnight effort to cut together the ad, her closing statement was on air in New Hampshire. Hours later, the campaign put nearly $250,000 into the cluttered New Hampshire television market for the final two days, more than any other candidate except Mr. Buttigieg.

JoAnne St. John, an influential Democratic activist in Nashua who had long backed Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey, was still adrift and without a candidate heading into the final weekend.

“I went to a Buttigieg rally, and at the end of that, I said, ‘I think I’m going to support him,’” she said in an interview on Tuesday. “But I had almost begrudgingly promised some of my very proficient Democrats here in Nashua that I would go see Amy at 3 o’clock. And I did, and I’m glad I did. I saw a woman with power. I’ve seen her many times before, but she has developed her style. I just looked at that woman onstage and I thought, ‘She can do this.’” (Ms. St. John voted for Ms. Klobuchar on Tuesday, and spent most of her day encouraging others to do the same.)

On Election Day, she bought a special wrap of The New Hampshire Union Leader, highlighting its endorsement of her. At a rally in Nashua — the biggest of her candidacy — volunteers had printed out copies of the endorsements from local papers.

And in her speeches, she referred to local matters that had flown under the radar of other candidates. She mentioned the importance of “rail to southern New Hampshire” in Nashua. She gave a shout-out to Ms. Shaheen in Salem.

But her campaign is aggressively expanding. It currently has 50 staff members on the ground in Nevada, and plans to have campaign workers in multiple Super Tuesday states by Saturday. The campaign is also starting a seven-figure ad buy in Nevada, and she has events lined up in Reno and Las Vegas.

from Jenkem

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[Brehvolution]

https://twitter.com/JimmyTraina/status/1227051040954077184

[BisMarckie]

We want a Klobmentum emote

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Pete called himself a middle class veteran?

foh, asshole.

At least bernie never pretends to be middle class when he's talking about helping them.

[Occam]

The Billion-Dollar Disinformation Campaign to Reelect the President
How new technologies and techniques pioneered by dictators will shape the 2020 election

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-2020-disinformation-war/605530/

Excellent article about Trump's ongoing technological disinformation campaign (well, not his personally, he's a moron, but he has some capable, unscrupulous propagandists). Explains why it's impossible to reach Trumpists from the outside.
Whichever percentage of Americans resides inside the bubble is lost, and there are no rules or laws in place to prevent it.

Everything the Democrats are doing is amateur hour in comparison.

[benjipwns]

there are no rules or laws in place to prevent it.

And hopefully it stays that way, right?