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https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1245735705499836416


let them eat health insurance premiums  :delicious

Isn’t losing your insurance a qualifying life event that allows you to get healthcare through the exchange?

Yup, but you have to jump through extra hoops and provide paper work and such.

6.6 millie worth of paperwork aint gonna work.

I’ve never had to prove anything when I bought insurance on the marketplace when in between jobs, but that’s probably because I’m in CA.

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HeAlThCaRe  :nope

INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK :ohyeah
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We seriously have the most complacent population in the whole world.

everyone screams eat the rich and makes jokes about guillotines and it's fucking ridiculous

not a single one of them would do anything that might risk sacrificing their ability to watch the mandalorian season 2

if you're not going to actually eat the rich then shut the fuck up

I was talking about this with an acquaintance recently and we came to the conclusion that it's cringy for people to invoke the Jacobins and the guillotine without genuinely accepting what kind of violence that entails or what those politics mean. It's semi-automated, impersonal mass violence backed by state power purportedly "in the hands of the right people". Obviously political violence doesn't exist in an abstract vacuum, only the most birdbrained lib will argue otherwise. There's tons written about whose power that violence was used for and against back then, but since it's being invoked so much these days, what does it mean now? I'll save that for a smarter poster but it is very interesting to see rose emojis who've probably never thrown a punch in anger spam guillotine gifs under every tweet about jeff bezos, you can't help but walk away confused thinking about a symbol of liberal egalitarianism being used to criticise perceived unfair outcomes of markets and wagnerian visions of billionaires sitting on lumps of wealth like dragons not because they have to self-valorize capital but because of some greedy cabal conspiracy.

Your point about personal sacrifice and action has to be balanced with the reality on the ground and that reality is that people who engage in struggle outside of narrowly approved venues like a certain rehearsed brand of trade-union politics typically end up in jail/dead/impoverished. Americans (overall) are nowhere near that desperate to see those options as an ok alternative. Anyway vote for your local Democrat, Hillary 2016, Always With Her.

Fetishization of violence isn't just for fascists. 

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This is completely reductive and I'm sure Esch, jake, and Kara could all make some cogent points that it's a dumb way to frame it, but every time this topic comes up I think "you can't get enough votes to win a primary but you're gonna win a civil war?"

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the plumbing is too good for revolution. we'd need flint to happen nationwide, people will put up with a lot so long as the water runs and the poop flushes  :american
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I'm not gonna revolution if I have to shit in a public restroom. sorry, sweaty. not :clap gonna :clap happen :clap
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It's also "funny" when you think about what group values arming themselves in anticipation about possible mass conflicts.

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I thought Mandark's ultimate point was that the powerless American left, rallied around a (failing) social democratic presidential campaign, pointlessly threatening people with power is stupid in 2020. Which it is.

Yeah. I just feel like if you've got the juice for a revolution you could win some elections first. If bourgeois electoralism is really a dead-end because capital will find illegitimate ways to stymie your agenda even when your people are in office, you deal with the crisis then.

But talking big about violent revolution while also complaining that your boy got jobbed by Amy and Pete dropping out? In the words of one prominent theorist, we don't believe you; you need more people.

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Guillotines are such a cliche. Keep your death threats fresh. And limit them to actual people with power, like billionaires, politicians, and particularly annoying forum posters.

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Who can forget Page Full Of Guillotine Doodles From A Birmingham Jail?


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If bourgeois electoralism is really a dead-end because capital will find illegitimate ways to stymie your agenda even when your people are in office, you deal with the crisis then.
I don't think this is the only issue with waiting around for 50% + 1 votes. Did civil rights protestors wait around for a legislative majority before they started doing sit-ins and bus boycotts?

i agree that rose twitter is dumb though

Part of it is a matter of demographics. Comparing the voting preferences of the young-ish to the old.

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Who can forget Page Full Of Guillotine Doodles From A Birmingham Jail?
i think we’re allowed to work with a broad definition of violence

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Donald Trump just wrote a letter to Schumer, it certainly is something



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They finally got supply chain stuff in order and seem so proud of it.

assholes

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Kushner is now "officially" in charge

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1245835666698768390

They finally got supply chain stuff in order and seem so proud of it.

assholes

https://twitter.com/timjhogan/status/1245837016517894146

Sort of
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i think we’re allowed to work with a broad definition of violence

I think "direct action" might be useful terminology here rather than making "violence" a huge umbrella.

« Last Edit: April 02, 2020, 06:39:41 PM by Mandark »

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he's already talking about after and that states should know better for next time.

:snoop

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So it seems like some people were pushing back against Kushner with the leaks, maybe Melania's old spokeswoman now the press secretary who was sidelined.
To curb stomp the rumors they made it official that Kushner is running this thing now.

In any case if Mike Pence drops his 'smug' face and hangs his arms you know you've reached the end.
The man who sold the world is now in charge of the United States



And he brings with him the 'best people'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8180191/Jared-Kushner-former-roommate-heart-Donald-Trumps-coronavirus-response.html
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His team includes a slew of McKinsey consultants plus his former roommate and current U.S. foreign investment czar Adam Boehler, and Brad Smith, the head of Medicare's innovation center.

Buckle up folks  :doge

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reporter:"what do you meant by cash payments"

trump: "Ill let pence tell you what I meant"

pence: "what the president meant..."

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"the scarf is sometimes better than the masks (n95)"


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Kushner is gonna have a pretty rad "internships" resume on his LinkedIn come 2021.
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Won't be long before they announce a 'roadmap' in of these briefings.

You can just see Trump contemplating if he would or would not Dr. Birx  :dead
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we're fucked, aren't we?

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My Bernie poster arrived in the mail today

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I understand that Dr. Birx is trying to do, but I don't think her school teacher act is going to work.  :doge

Just as she implores everyone to stay home and not have parties, someone interrupts with a question about oil.


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we had bans long before people thought of bans

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Kushner smirks when he's asked if he's the shadow task force and Trump starts saying it's fake news.

Jared says that states should look into their own pool and data.
Now he's making the case that most state governors are bad managers.


"Some states are dead flat"  :doge


"I look at the graphs all the time, you have many many flat liners, I call them flat liners"

Trump's trying to get Birx to praise the flat liners.  :lol

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There is now a fight between the Press and Trump about what Dr. Birx meant.  :doge

Dr. Birx sides with Trump  :lol

She successfully pulled the schoolteacher act on the journo's
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Biden is going to get all his supporters in Wisconsin killed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/colinkalmbacher/status/1245853635591802881

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I think "direct action" might be useful terminology here rather than making "violence" a huge umbrella.
alright, then maybe ‘coercion’ is more appropriate. the only point i wanna make is that it’s worth preserving a distinction between the picket line part of a strike and the withholding labor part of a strike.



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Biden is going to get all his supporters in Wisconsin killed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/colinkalmbacher/status/1245853635591802881

Getting Boomer Remover™ to own the Berners. :rejoice


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« Last Edit: April 02, 2020, 10:45:25 PM by Tripon »

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I don't see anything wrong with what Kushner said. There's a national shortage of ventilators and they need to be distributed out by need. Which is why he's asking for utilization numbers. Also at no point does he say that he knows better than the governors about what's in their state.

The idea that there is a Federal stockpile that the States can't use is non-sensical
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The idea that there is a Federal stockpile that the States can't use is non-sensical
I don't understand, what is this?

https://www.phe.gov/about/sns/Pages/default.aspx

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When state, local, tribal, and territorial responders request federal assistance to support their response efforts, the stockpile ensures that the right medicines and supplies get to those who need them most during an emergency. Organized for scalable response to a variety of public health threats, this repository contains enough supplies to respond to multiple large-scale emergencies simultaneously.

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#teamjames
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https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1245906088911949826

Nothing to see here folks, Jared is in charge.  :nothing
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Is shosta being a cock in satirical form?


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What


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https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1246102757003722752

In lieu of an apology shost you can Venmo me $150, plz PM me with details
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https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1246102757003722752

In lieu of an apology shost you can Venmo me $150, plz PM me with details
Stopgap buffer?

Jared wrote that shit himself  :rejoice



Tucker  :whew
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