US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The environment, the environment.

[Himu]

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In a normal presidency and normal year, this would be a let them eat cake comment that lived on for centuries

Governors in blue states have effectively given up on the federal government during the Covid-19 pandemic. J.B. Pritzker, the Democratic Governor of Illinois, summarized where he and other governors are. “We have gotten very little help from the federal government. It’s fine. I’ve given up on any promises that have been made.” Since the federal government under Trump has abrogated its responsibilities to the states, a consortium of Midwest governors have banded together to coordinate their own responses to the Covid-19 crisis. California, Oregon, and Washington formed another pact, as did states in the Northeast corridor. Notably, all of the governors participating are either Democrats, or Republicans who already have strained relationships with Trump, such as Mike DeWine of Ohio or Larry Hogan of Maryland.

While this might be interpreted at first glance as Trump taking a laissez-faire attitude towards governors, both his words and actions belie that notion. The Trump administration has been seizing shipments of personal protective equipment (PPE) to blue states, in what can only be assumed to be an attempt to undercut governors’ efforts to control the spread of the virus to medical personnel. Such actions directly endanger the lives of the people on the front lives of the pandemic, and states’ abilities to cope with it.

The Trump administration, for its part, seems determined to follow the desires of his white evangelical base to their logical conclusion: namely bringing blue states to heel, establishing permanent Republican dominance over the government and the courts, and re-establishing conservative Christian morality as a basis for law. His administration, the courts, and the religious conservative legal groups bringing impact litigation all seem dead-set on pushing blue states further and further into a corner.  They assume that these states would never take the ultimate step of defying the federal government and seceding, rather than betraying their citizens and their morals. Every state has an unknown breaking point, and the Trump administration seems to be in a great rush to find exactly where it lies.

Fifteen years ago, the idea that states might be willing to consider whether they were better off outside the union was unthinkable. It is therefore staggering that today, if we continue down the path we’re on, there are plausible scenarios where these sorts of calculations will be made. A Trump victory in 2020 will test the assumption that states will put up with anything the federal government does in ways we haven’t seen since 1861.

https://www.damemagazine.com/2020/04/20/will-trump-2020-break-apart-the-nation/

This provoked the president to raise the issue of secession: “Tell the Democrat Governors that ‘Mutiny On The Bounty’ was one of my all time favorite movies,” he tweeted on Tuesday, seemingly comparing himself to British naval Captain William Bligh, portrayed as a tyrant in the film. Trump specifically taunted Andrew Cuomo, the governor of his home state of New York, where more than 10,000 people are dead with the virus: “Now he seems to want Independence! That won’t happen!”

Though Cuomo has not asked for the Empire State’s independence, his counterpart in Sacramento, Gavin Newsom, did last week refer to California as a “nation state.” Nonetheless, the spat raises the question of whether some states would be better off independent, or as part of regional groupings with more authority on matters ranging from public health and immigration to economic policy and even taxation.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-breakingviews/breakingviews-cox-great-lockdown-begs-great-american-breakup-idUSKCN21X30O

[Nintex]

The environment, the environment.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1296548199906177024

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

god damn no wonder bernie wanted to debate this dickhead in 2016

Bernies been calling out the future since the 70s

[Cauliflower Of Love]

 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1296844189926211584

By my count 69 electoral votes

Oops forgot Oklahoma, 76 electoral votes

[stufte]

Fuck Kanye, that mentally ill fuck.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks/status/1296481368164184069

 

[james]

Good time to defund FEMA

https://twitter.com/PeterGleick/status/1296831735921967109

[Nintex]

Things that didn't exist before the Trump administration

- COVID-19
- Two hurricanes at the same time
- Fire tornadoes
- OnlyFans
- icebae
- Nintendo Switch

I say it evens out

[Tripon]

Feds are using FEMA emergency money to pay unemployment right now. Meanwhile big swathes of the country is either on fire, flooded, or just too fucking hot that people are dying from the heat.

[team filler]

dp 

[Nintex]

first fire tornadoes, now a fucking double hurricane, 2020 keeps delivering

It's unfortunate that this is a world but the world has always been a dangerous place

[curly]

https://mobile.twitter.com/markos/status/1296619189101158400

A page straight from the John Kerry playbook

[Brehvolution]

trump invited the bat that started covid to speak at the RNC. The bat has declined to wear a mask.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1296820737521717248

[Nintex]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Josiensor/status/1296570740104404994

Seems that Banon is already losing his power now that he no longer has freedom

[team filler]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Josiensor/status/1296570740104404994

Seems that Banon is already losing his power now that he no longer has freedom

https://mobile.twitter.com/Josiensor/status/1296781794541473792

fake illustration 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Honey Badger doesn't give

https://mobile.twitter.com/Josiensor/status/1296570740104404994

Seems that Banon is already losing his power now that he no longer has freedom

https://mobile.twitter.com/Josiensor/status/1296781794541473792

fake illustration 

illustration shows the black shirt.

 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1296895498658500610

Listen to this man smear the great Lou Dobbs. 

What does he mean he doesn't have time to watch Lou 

[curly]

FiveThirtyEight's election forecaster is astoundingly bad web design.

[Phoenix Dark]

Markey's still better and Kennedy's still running out of a sense of entitlement, imo.

And even if only 10% of what's going on is ideological, now that AOC/Sunrise/etc. have planted their flag it's important that they get the W here.

I was stunned to see Markey is leading in the polls there. I just assumed Kennedy would be steam rolling off name ID alone. Maybe that's what happens on election day but as of right now Markey is still up and there's seems to be confusion over why Kennedy is even doing this.

Just seems like a chump move. Warren and Markey are in their 70s...either seat would have been Kennedy's in a couple years, without him looking like a dick. What's the urgency.


In terms of the wildfires and CA in general. They're betting the farm on Biden winning. Same with NY. The expectation is that's the only way they get a massive bailout. This is probably the biggest (and perhaps only) political issue that continually comes up at work via clients/investors/etc. Whether they can last until January...we'll see.

[Mandark]

I'm worried that Charlie Baker runs for Senate in MA whenever Markey or Warren retires and wins. Which is just the sort of scenario where a rising star Kennedy would be a nice card to play.

[Mandark]

If RBG retires in 2013, we're not sacrificing a thousand psykers a day to the Golden Throne just to keep Sam Alito from outlawing OSHA!

[Cauliflower Of Love]

If RBG retires in 2013, we're not sacrificing a thousand psykers a day to the Golden Throne just to keep Sam Alito from outlawing OSHA!

RBG retiring would be an insult the institution she serves.

Lifetime appointment means lifetime. I admire her for sticking to it.

Have some honor in the things you do.

*spit*

[Mandark]

And if Ted Kennedy doesn't decide that he can do his job fine with brain cancer and stick us with Scott Brown, we get more than 4 months of a cloture-beating majority in the Senate!

[Mandark]

It's all fun and games until RBG croaks in December and a lame duck Trump appoints Jacob Wohl to the Supreme Court.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Then so be it.

But Ruth would have done her duty as she pledged to do.

[team filler]

kennedy wants to run for pres in 2024 

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1296820737521717248

[Himu]

let's say trump loses the lection and rbg dies in january. Trump and his people try to replace her. Make a sketch how this could go.

[Transhuman]

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[Mandark]

Trump nominates a replacement, and the lame duck Republican-majority Senate votes on it.

Democrats make a big stink, try whatever procedural shit they can. Senate gets to set its own rules on procedure so McConnell can get a vote if he wants. It's functionally a question of shame levels for Murkowski, Romney, etc.

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[Himu]

Trump nominates a replacement, and the lame duck Republican-majority Senate votes on it.

Democrats make a big stink, try whatever procedural shit they can. Senate gets to set its own rules on procedure so McConnell can get a vote if he wants. It's functionally a question of shame levels for Murkowski, Romney, etc.

Do you think those who have turned on Trump in the Senate such as Romney will vote against?

[Mandark]

I have no clue!

[VomKriege]

Giving Pete veterans affairs

Blandness is the new archive and mental health mismanagement.

[Nintex]

Biden said his job is “to bring the Mayor Petes of the world into this administration … and even if they don't come in, their ideas come into this administration.”

 

[El Babua]

Yep, more McKinsey operatives and ideas from McKinsey operatives in his administration 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1297138862108663808

Will you vote for

McKinsey
Qanon

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

or whoever

Rumor mill and all but ....

Giving Pete veterans affairs

Giving Garcetti housing and urban development

https://twitter.com/AlpertReyes/status/1296969170878255105

that picture making my soul burn #replacekamala

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1297081344225419264

[Cauliflower Of Love]

imagine caring about greta

[Mandark]

Yeah, it's gonna be a matter of degree. Trump claimed widespread fraud after an election he won, because the popular vote hurt his feelings.

Best case is probably Trump tweets that he was cheated, GOP electeds mostly don't back him, there's no serious legal challenge, and for years the fraud of 2020 is a staple of racist Facebook uncle lore.

[Nintex]

The worst case is a contested Florida recount type contested election.
Where it is all down to 1 or maybe 2 states. Even the Democrats have signaled that they don't plan to concede if that happens because their expected outcome is that they are going to win.
If Trump loses quite a bit he'll get it over with and concede. In 2016 he spend more time on his concession speech than his winning speech.
They had some props on stage like a MAGA hat in a glass case and such probably meant for the event of losing 

If Trump wins... well it will be contested again for the next 4 years just like the outcome of 2016 was.

[Mandark]

he's not wrong

probably biden's best attribute as a person but the one most likely to fuck up his potential presidency

[Phoenix Dark]

Rumor mill and all but ....

Giving Pete veterans affairs

Giving Garcetti housing and urban development

https://twitter.com/AlpertReyes/status/1296969170878255105

Anything that gets Garcetti out of LA is good for the country.

[Tripon]

Rumor mill and all but ....

Giving Pete veterans affairs

Giving Garcetti housing and urban development

https://twitter.com/AlpertReyes/status/1296969170878255105

Anything that gets Garcetti out of LA is good for the country.

Good for L.A., not good for the country. Garcetti is an empty suit that doesn't know how to do shit. Putting in charge of anything, much less an agency, whose primary focus to help the needy means a lot of people are going to suffer though incompetence and neglect.

[Nintex]

Between the diversity police who successfully got Harris in and donors owed a seat at the table, Biden won't be able to make many of these choices himself anyway.
The best fit you will see is probably Andrew Yang as Labor secretary or something but that could also go to I dunno, Mike Bloomberg.

Trump said he would fire most if not all of his current cabinet if re-elected. So after the C, D and E picks he will probably get great people on board like Portnoy and Judge Janine 

[Pissy F Benny]

The Great as Vice President

[Nintex]

Melania made the White House garden great again
https://twitter.com/BeschlossDC/status/1297209653152161793

Before and after shot

[Joe Molotov]

https://mobile.twitter.com/RussFrushtick/status/1296809616244977664

[Trent Dole]

kennedy thinks he's gonna be pres 

He's not even going to be a Senator.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://mobile.twitter.com/RussFrushtick/status/1296809616244977664

[Nintex]

The worst case is a contested Florida recount type contested election.
Where it is all down to 1 or maybe 2 states. Even the Democrats have signaled that they don't plan to concede if that happens because their expected outcome is that they are going to win.
If Trump loses quite a bit he'll get it over with and concede. In 2016 he spend more time on his concession speech than his winning speech.
They had some props on stage like a MAGA hat in a glass case and such probably meant for the event of losing 

If Trump wins... well it will be contested again for the next 4 years just like the outcome of 2016 was.

Bruh that is definitely not even close to worst case scenario here

I have a second and third worst case scenario for how things develop in the future but this is sort of the baseline.

[Trent Dole]

I'm worried that Charlie Baker runs for Senate in MA whenever Markey or Warren retires and wins. Which is just the sort of scenario where a rising star Kennedy would be a nice card to play.

Baker could actually have a shot at it honestly.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/513212-judge-orders-trump-to-pay-legal-fees-to-stormy-daniels

This week’s decision was the culmination of Clifford’s efforts to be reimbursed by Trump for the legal expenses related to the case.

Broadbelt ruled that Clifford was entitled to be reimbursed for the legal fees after deciding she was the "prevailing party" under California law even though the case was dismissed.

He also dismissed arguments from Trump’s attorneys that he was not responsible for covering the fees because he did not sign the NDA, ruling that because Trump had reimbursed Cohen for the $130,000 and since the president’s legal team had argued that a defamation suit from Clifford should be handled by an NDA arbiter, Trump was effectively a party to the deal.

[Transhuman]

https://mobile.twitter.com/RussFrushtick/status/1296809616244977664

It makes me happy when stuff like that slips through. The moderation of profanity on television and radio is needless and it neuters the free expression of anger. I understand why politicians and religious types would want that though.

[james]

Let's pray that the south gets absolutely wrecked by hurricanes next week so the gop comes to Nancy with their hands out

[Nintex]