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[Coitus]

The only thing lamer and older than Joe Biden is this guy’s schtick.

[zomgee]

Jerry Jr. got the boot at Liberty:

Jerry Falwell Jr. resigned Monday as president of Liberty University after 13 years at the helm of the prominent evangelical Christian school, according to multiple media reports, marking an end to the embattled leader's tumultuous tenure.

Politico confirmed the news with a Liberty University spokesperson. NBC News could not immediately confirm the report.

Falwell's departure comes after the school placed him on an indefinite leave of absence on Aug. 7. In a statement Friday, Liberty officials had said the "decision whether or not to retain Falwell as president has not yet been made."

mess with the bull...

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1297928575757287426

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Eat your heart out John Kasich.

https://m.

[Mandark]

Jerry Jr. got the boot at Liberty:

Jerry Falwell Jr. resigned Monday as president of Liberty University after 13 years at the helm of the prominent evangelical Christian school, according to multiple media reports, marking an end to the embattled leader's tumultuous tenure.

Politico confirmed the news with a Liberty University spokesperson. NBC News could not immediately confirm the report.

Falwell's departure comes after the school placed him on an indefinite leave of absence on Aug. 7. In a statement Friday, Liberty officials had said the "decision whether or not to retain Falwell as president has not yet been made."

mess with the bull...

AMAZING post

[benjipwns]

Jerry Jr. got the boot at Liberty:

Jerry Falwell Jr. resigned Monday as president of Liberty University after 13 years at the helm of the prominent evangelical Christian school, according to multiple media reports, marking an end to the embattled leader's tumultuous tenure.

Politico confirmed the news with a Liberty University spokesperson. NBC News could not immediately confirm the report.

Falwell's departure comes after the school placed him on an indefinite leave of absence on Aug. 7. In a statement Friday, Liberty officials had said the "decision whether or not to retain Falwell as president has not yet been made."

FACT CHECK:

Jerry Falwell Jr. says he is not resigning as president and chancellor of Liberty University, contradicting news reports announcing his departure from the Evangelical school.

“I have not resigned," Falwell told POLITICO on a phone call on Monday evening. Asked how the news reports of him resigning had gotten out, he replied, "I don’t know."

“I have not resigned. I will be on indefinite leave," Falwell repeated.

A Liberty University spokesperson earlier on Monday responded affirmatively to a reporter’s text message seeking confirmation of whether Falwell was resigning. The spokesperson added that a formal statement would be “forthcoming.”

But later on Monday evening, the spokesperson declined to comment, saying in a text message: “I cannot say anything and I can only give a statement from the Board if they give me a statement.”

[benjipwns]

Jerry Jr. got the boot at Liberty:

Jerry Falwell Jr. resigned Monday as president of Liberty University after 13 years at the helm of the prominent evangelical Christian school, according to multiple media reports, marking an end to the embattled leader's tumultuous tenure.

Politico confirmed the news with a Liberty University spokesperson. NBC News could not immediately confirm the report.

Falwell's departure comes after the school placed him on an indefinite leave of absence on Aug. 7. In a statement Friday, Liberty officials had said the "decision whether or not to retain Falwell as president has not yet been made."

FACT CHECK:

Jerry Falwell Jr. says he is not resigning as president and chancellor of Liberty University, contradicting news reports announcing his departure from the Evangelical school.

“I have not resigned," Falwell told POLITICO on a phone call on Monday evening. Asked how the news reports of him resigning had gotten out, he replied, "I don’t know."

“I have not resigned. I will be on indefinite leave," Falwell repeated.

A Liberty University spokesperson earlier on Monday responded affirmatively to a reporter’s text message seeking confirmation of whether Falwell was resigning. The spokesperson added that a formal statement would be “forthcoming.”

But later on Monday evening, the spokesperson declined to comment, saying in a text message: “I cannot say anything and I can only give a statement from the Board if they give me a statement.”

FACT CHECK:

Later that evening, a statement from Liberty confirmed Falwell had agreed to resign as president and from the university's board of directors, then withdrew his resignation after media reports about it.

Monday evening, however, Falwell told the Wall Street Journal that he had, in fact, sent his letter of resignation to the board.

[benjipwns]

Speakers at the Republican National Convention turned California into a dystopian punchline on Monday, portraying America’s most populous state as a dangerous wasteland ruled by liberal politicians who are oblivious to public safety.

Kimberly Guilfoyle, a leading Trump campaign fundraiser and the girlfriend of Donald Trump Jr., said Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, a lifelong moderate, and his running mate, Kamala Harris, would pursue the same kind of socialist policies that she said had destroyed Cuba and Venezuela.

“If you want to see the socialist Biden-Harris future for our country, just take a look at California,” said Guilfoyle, whose former husband is Gov. Gavin Newsom. “It is a place of immense wealth, immeasurable innovation, an immaculate environment, and the Democrats turned it into a land of discarded heroin needles in parks, riots in streets and blackouts in homes.”

Gaetz suggested socialists in places like Hollywood were manipulating Biden to enact their radical agenda.

“The woke-topians will settle for Biden because they will make him an extra in a movie written, produced and directed by others,” he said. “It’s a horror film, really. They’ll disarm you, empty the prisons, lock you in your home and invite MS-13 to live next door. And the police aren’t coming when you call. In Democrat-run cities, they’re already being defunded, disbanded.”

Republican activist Charlie Kirk took aim at California’s tech industry.

“In this country, it means you can speak your mind without retribution — without being kicked off of social media by a self-righteous censor in Silicon Valley.”

All of these statements are rated "unverified" as every fact checker sent to California has perished without sending their report back.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/American_Bridge/status/1298030438225764352

[kingv]

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1297928575757287426

NOW she says it!

[curly]

https://mobile.twitter.com/joekennedy/status/1298021250493829122

they're doing that thing again

[Nintex]

The sequel to Requiem for a Dream is lit

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1298083316231536641

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1298075982595842048

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1298071645152780294

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1297920648661086209

[close]

https://twitter.com/hiitsbeec/status/1298105803690434560

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1298184638037450753

[curly]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1298075982595842048

bruh what the fuck she's doing this in an empty room

[Nintex]

Joe Biden is a loch ness monster who will eat your children and take away your freedom

Wow I can't believe Nancy would say this

https://twitter.com/SteveScalise/status/1298022930887081984

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.westernslopenow.com/news/local-news/new-mail-sorting-machine-at-grand-junction-usps-thrown-out/amp/

[Mandark]

https://commonwealthmagazine.org/criminal-justice/da-seeks-huge-bail-increase-after-learning-nonprofit-fund-would-pay-it/

Barry Twomey, a 58-year-old homeless Boston man, was arraigned on July 7 on armed robbery charges after he was arrested on July 2 at the South Bay Mall, where two robberies occurred. Prosecutors asked that he be held on $5,000 bail, an amount Boston Municipal Court Judge Eleanor Sinnott agreed to. But when the district attorney’s office learned that the Bail Fund planned to post the $5,000, it filed a request on August 14 for a new hearing at which prosecutors want the court to order a 10-fold increase in Twomey’s bail to $50,000.

[BikeJesus]

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1297928575757287426

Not surprised to see her standing up for another accused rapist.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/stephanie_murr/status/1297899273133133826

https://twitter.com/stephanie_murr/status/1297902689490292738

https://twitter.com/laurenkennedyMA/status/1297949176316264448

https://twitter.com/joekennedy/status/1298021250493829122

Kennedy campaign must have internal polling or something that complaining about Markey bros help him.

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/davidsess/status/1297995927312117765

213372bu continues to be on the right side of history

We need to keep pushing down ballot progressives so we can garner enough house support to make a new party. Have to stick to Democrats for now but this will just backfire for the democrats in placating republicans to let them take their party.

[Nintex]

Kennedy campaign must have internal polling or something that complaining about Markey bros help him.

They're also getting swamped by the Republican trolls taking a break from the RNC

speaking of

https://twitter.com/KatrinaPierson/status/1298270269560127489

[Himu]

I'm not planning on watching the RNC but I hope some of you will.

I'm not. I'll be reading about it in the paper the next day while high. I highly suggest reading the paper high. It makes the normally depressing news a lot more hilarious. The other day I was just laughing at how ridiculous the stories were. Even the bad news stories had an element of comedy to them.

[ToxicAdam]

https://twitter.com/davidsess/status/1297995927312117765

213372bu continues to be on the right side of history

"The calls for state voucher programs are coming from INSIDE YOUR OWN HOUSE!" ::creepy music:::

[Brehvolution]

Same tired playbook no one buys anymore. They did the same thing to Obama. Spend the whole convention yelling about the horrors that a Dem prez will bring while ignoring all the horrors currently going on. Then Biden wins and SHOCKINGLY none of it comes true.

They think their little charade is going to win new voters? They are literally screaming to the choir.

[Nintex]

Same tired playbook no one buys anymore. They did the same thing to Obama. Spend the whole convention yelling about the horrors that a Dem prez will bring while ignoring all the horrors currently going on. Then Biden wins and SHOCKINGLY none of it comes true.

They think their little charade is going to win new voters? They are literally screaming to the choir.

They either lose everything or like in 2016 they have figured out what the majority of voters actually want.

[Mandark]

We need to keep pushing down ballot progressives so we can garner enough house support to make a new party. Have to stick to Democrats for now but this will just backfire for the democrats in placating republicans to let them take their party.

there's like a 99% chance that the democratic party will be the leftmost viable party in american politics for the rest of your life

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1298069045577687041

 

[Mandark]

just telling the truth so cindi hopefully doesn't get emotionally invested in a fantasy scenario then flip out when it inevitably fails to materialize

trolling is telling someone that a griftpac recruiting michael steele is "building a massive power base"

[Mandark]

there are any number of actual institutions and political dynamics that exert rightward pressure on the dems, but the lincoln project?

that's like when nintex says the meme army will carry trump to victory

[Tripon]

I don't know about a massive power base, but I would be wary that something like the Lincoln project installing a foothold, not in terms of a voting base, but another avenue for billionaires, PACs, etc. to put and give away. I can see the Lincoln project evolve into another centrist org like 3rd way and go "See, this is what the middle of America wants!"

We still get stuff like Third Way pretend they're a left-center organization from politico

[Himu]

Sis is worried about an influx of rehabilitated conservatives into her party and you want to try to troll her like she's a hostage

this bitch calling them "my" party. you mother fucker

[Mandark]

I saw when he did that

[Himu]

You're just trying to keep her on the Democrat Plantation.

I've been trying for 10 years.

[Himu]

there are any number of actual institutions and political dynamics that exert rightward pressure on the dems, but the lincoln project?

that's like when nintex says the meme army will carry trump to victory

They've successfully built up a massive media machine and are being celebrated by liberals.

[Mandark]

everybody who votes Biden is a Democrat. that includes Jennifer Rubin and Richard Spencer

jennifer rubin is a scoop jackson democrat

richard spencer is a theodore bilbo democrat

cindi is a bilbo baggins democrat (she is short)

[Himu]

everybody who votes Biden is a Democrat. that includes Jennifer Rubin and Richard Spencer

[Mandark]

They've successfully built up a massive media machine and are being celebrated by liberals.

they produce and run negative ads targeted at trump and now a handful of republican senators

that's it

[Tripon]

everybody who votes Biden is a Democrat. that includes Jennifer Rubin and Richard Spencer

What if I write in Tulsi's name in November?

[MMaRsu]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1298078661090910208

Lmao some ol Hitler bullshit

Sounds German too, the tones I mean

[Himu]

I don't know why the concern that Lincoln project will and can take over the Democratic Party is not taken with seriousness. With the Republican party the way it is now, the neoconservatives have no way of rehabilitating the current vacuum of the modern GOP while they're all labeled "RINOS". Considering the Rehabilitation of the modern Republican Party isn't a real possibility, rehabilitating it through the Democratic Party is far easier.

Not only are they a popular group, they're very vocal, and Democrats seem keen on inviting them into their fold. Liberals have already forgiven Dubya and don't forget, the Iraq War was voted on through bipartisan support. There are so few things that separate Neocons from the Obama/Clintonian politics at this point. With the Democratic Party being such a big tent, and with establishment Dems already primarying progressive Dems and trying to take away their influence, they have even more reason to grow tied to Lincoln Project conservatives. The existence of progressives forces the center Democrats to naturally go towards the more conservative base, and let's not forget, Democrats are normally unwilling to vote on anything regardless of whether it's popular or not (see: two popular issues in M4A and weed legalization), thus showing their more conservative tendencies off the bat.

Currently the Trump administration is extreme right of right. It only makes sense the Democratic Party would appear to the left of that, which is really just the neo conservatism of ten years ago with gay marriage support.

Also, it took me forever to write that post because I am high as shit. So forgive me if it doesn't make any sense.

[Tripon]

everybody who votes Biden is a Democrat. that includes Jennifer Rubin and Richard Spencer

Mods are asleep. More Rubin Posting.

https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1296645969505853441
https://twitter.com/MiaFarrow/status/1296584834182262789
https://twitter.com/capeandcowell/status/1296608964122206213

https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1297527247113527297

[EchoRin]

the Bore has broke me, and when that last tweet said "distinguished" I thought for a second it was the word filter and it made me 

[Nintex]

Imagine how broken these people would be if Trump won again.

[EchoRin]

Well I know I'll be drinking hard on election day regardless. That feeling when you are a legal resident, but can't actually vote to make a difference 

[Himu]

Further, you can say with authenticity that Biden's campaign is the most "liberal" the Democratic Party has fielded in decades, and that's right enough as far as it goes.

But will it act on those policies? Democrats are very good at promising things and doing nothing while in power, at least at the Federal Level. And if they do get something done, often they make massive concessions even when they have massive rope to debilitate and negotiate.

Basically, after Obama's CHANGE and HOPE the Democrats have to show me they're really good for putting down actual policy without obstruction. There's far more evidence towards the Democrats fucking things up. Thankfully with some progressive dems in congress with some backbone now we can get some balls rolling. If Biden wins I will be following his administration like a hawk.

[Mandark]

Not only are they a popular group, they're very vocal, and Democrats seem keen on inviting them into their fold.

An institution this popular and with this much groundswell that is blatantly Conservative will be yet another, harsher force that scolds anyone to the left of them when they feel threatened.

It should also be noted that The Establishment has little online media presence, they’re out-of-touch boomers, they could increasingly turn to people like The Lincoln Project who already have that public base and are very online— be it by their own videos or the shit  they steal. They interact with celebs in a cl”cute” manner to gain favor and follows that spread their reach to more and more people. I’d say their effectiveness and charisma isn’t just from a place of “Get Trump Out”. A well-built machine like that is quite the salacious bite, and it’s not one boomers can get going on their own.

people who like the lincoln project do so because they constantly talk shit about donald trump

it's similar to candace owens' position: she has an audience because of what she says, and if she flipped then that audience would abandon her

when your popularity is predicated on telling people what they want to hear, your influence is pretty well constrained

[team filler]

*he says as the neocons applaud all of the bide's administation picks*

[team filler]

we're seeing the official transition into one party rule no matter who wins 

[Himu]

Not only are they a popular group, they're very vocal, and Democrats seem keen on inviting them into their fold.

An institution this popular and with this much groundswell that is blatantly Conservative will be yet another, harsher force that scolds anyone to the left of them when they feel threatened.

It should also be noted that The Establishment has little online media presence, they’re out-of-touch boomers, they could increasingly turn to people like The Lincoln Project who already have that public base and are very online— be it by their own videos or the shit  they steal. They interact with celebs in a cl”cute” manner to gain favor and follows that spread their reach to more and more people. I’d say their effectiveness and charisma isn’t just from a place of “Get Trump Out”. A well-built machine like that is quite the salacious bite, and it’s not one boomers can get going on their own.

people who like the lincoln project do so because they constantly talk shit about donald trump

it's similar to candace owens' position: she has an audience because of what she says, and if she flipped then that audience would abandon her

when your popularity is predicated on telling people what they want to hear, your influence is pretty well constrained

I think you underestimate traditional Democratic party liberals. They turn anything progressives do as an attack. See Rubin, Khive stans, Warren stans. AOC seconding Bernie, which is a customary traditional act tied to convention politics, is seen as her not being loyal. Key word emphasis. The establishment, whether inside the ranks of politics or media, have it out against progressives and will always find way to undermine them because they are seen as "too extreme". Democrats are also just as capable of pulling rank and emphasizing a cult like adherence to party politics as Republicans. If the party coalesces around neocons, liberals will pull rank and support them because it's "good for the party". We have already seen neocons like Rubin rehabilitate Obama. I wouldn't put it past them to go slightly to their left so long as to stay relevant and influence policy. Essentially Democrats in name who "has gay friends" and that's it.

[BIONIC]

Esch in 2015/6: I don’t know why people would be worried about Donald Trump running for President.

[Himu]

But just 1 post ago you were remarking that the Democrats got nothing done when they briefly held power...

... didn't that happen because of their inability to really mimic the cult-like GOP adherence to party policy?

?

I was obviously referring to everyday libs not actual policy makers.

Everyday liberals are like plastic. One day they're campaigning for Bush to end the wars, then under Obama don't care because he's using drones to kill random Arab families because "at least it's not our troops".

They emphasize charisma and empty gestures over policy which is precisely why Democrats catered to them during the convention with feel good nonsense.

[OnlyRegret]

I'm reminded of that quote always attributed to Lenin: "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."

[Nintex]

Comedians in 2015: "OH yes, Run, please run, please run Donald! I will even grant you an interview if you run hahaha"

Comedians in 2020: "Welcome to my YouTUbe show from home, Who is this: U r fake news, U re all fake news guhuhu" *play the laugh tape*

[OnlyRegret]

In any case, Cindi is right in caution since a bunch of these """rehabilitated""" cons are merely in a personal spat with Trumpy. They're on board with most of it, only butting heads when Trumpy flips the imperialist switch or fails to maintain the mask.

[Mandark]

My main concern is that Democrats desperately cling to the inroads they make with suburban and educated republicans by giving those voters an unusual amount of attention. ToxicAdam will make us tear down windmills to save a few birds.

Actual constituencies, that can make or break a House majority? Now we're talking!

The good news is that the high-education suburbanites are generally to the left of the rural voters who are leaving the party, even on economic issues.



The bad news is "to the left of rural voters" doesn't get you to M4A and the marginal House seat is like 4% redder than the country.

[Nintex]

In any case, Cindi is right in caution since a bunch of these """rehabilitated""" cons are merely in a personal spat with Trumpy. They're on board with most of it, only butting heads when Trumpy flips the imperialist switch or fails to maintain the mask.

If Trump wins they'll organize a dinner party with Kushner and Vanky at the Lago within a week 

[Mandark]

In any case, Cindi is right in caution since a bunch of these """rehabilitated""" cons are merely in a personal spat with Trumpy. They're on board with most of it, only butting heads when Trumpy flips the imperialist switch or fails to maintain the mask.

is anybody saying they should be trusted?

the question here is what sort of actual power do they wield

[Himu]

Democrats have participated with Republicans in help shift further to the right for decades rather than routinely check them out some sense of duty and rightness. They find firebrands like AOC which directly combat the GOP, their lies, their culture of malpractice and obstruction for what it is as not having the right "tone". Liberals like my late father, dislike her for that. Because Democrats are always at the mercy of perception, they won't want to further ally themselves with progressives and will follow the mantra of Third Way and shift further right to appeal to the new neocons within their ranks to take advantage of the media empire they've built.

Liberals do not care about ideals, Mandark.

They do not care about policy. They care about their perception and what's "right". without real change. For this reason, they've got much more in common with Republicans.

Therefore, the only way forward is to merely stab the Democratic party in the gut, repeatedly with raw fury.

[Mandark]

folks, what if we did

and hear me out

materialist analysis?

[Himu]

But just 1 post ago you were remarking that the Democrats got nothing done when they briefly held power...

... didn't that happen because of their inability to really mimic the cult-like GOP adherence to party policy?

?

I was obviously referring to everyday libs not actual policy makers.

Everyday liberals are like plastic. One day they're campaigning for Bush to end the wars, then under Obama don't care because he's using drones to kill random Arab families because "at least it's not our troops".

They emphasize charisma and empty gestures over policy which is precisely why Democrats catered to them during the election with feel good nonsense.

"Democrats are also just as capable of pulling rank and emphasizing a cult like adherence to party politics as Republicans."  this was obviously meant to be about "everday libs"?  What "rank" do they hold? lol

It's a pretty simple thing to understand.

Democratic voters and supporters at all levels this year have made "accountability" the running theme. Trump accountable for Ukraine. Trump accountable for Covid-19. Trump accountable for protests. Yet the second Kamala became Vice President candidate and was met with criticism of her past, sending oodles of black Californians to prison, suddenly we were told to "wait". If you criticized Kamala it meant you were obviously a Trumper. In a year of mass protest against systemic violence, discrimination, and injustice we were told that not supporting Kamala or wanting to hold her accountable was bad. "Wait", they said. Suddenly words like accountability went out the window, once again proving what I already knew: Democrats are not my friends, we are only temporary allies, but a liberal will always show you their true face eventually.

Like I said, liberals do not have ideals.

Because of the nature of partisan politics they're just as much cultists as Republicans. They just can't see it and the only you can is by divorcing yourself from party politics in general. I have detested Democrats since 2009-2010 so for me it's pretty easy to accomplish and see.

[Mandark]

cindi, you know in the past how you have occasionally shifted your political affiliation?

and each time when you did that, you explained how the people you had previously associated with (socialists, conservatives, dems, whoever) were all terrible people and morally deficient hypocrites?

just ruminating on this randomly for no reason