US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[chronovore]

What'll happen at the end of four years, when not only will the MAGA fans still be unemployed, but general unemployment numbers will be up?

Theyll vote for him again because his policies need more time to take effect

See also: Kansas

  :'(

These people are broken and quite frankly, I dont think theres recourse short of a mass euthanasia program

Trump is radicalizing me

I dislike how this election and pre-inauguration has really allowed so many people to feel that those icky feelings they've repressed for so long are actually acceptable. These are problems they could have worked through, but are instead parading around under the banner of normalcy. Of "decency." It has evoked the most childish response in me: OK, if that's alright for you to do, here are the things I've been holding back on. I've never wanted to hurt people as badly as I do right now, and I feel ashamed of it.

The truth of it is that all of us have things at our core which are not appropriate for sharing. All of us get along in society as a whole by operating within a complex set of rules. Everyone (them, too) must find our way back to tolerance if not acceptance. But I fear I'm going to end up getting killed while smashing the shit out of neo-jackboots if I see others being bullied.

[Samson Manhug]

trump and the international politics game is blowing my mind right now. this man literally ran as president without a single clue about basic relationships we learn in college history and pol sci classes

yeah, but like most of that stuff is worthless horseshit anyway

Yeah, history and pol sci? We experts take IR classes. Maybe you can learn Spanish from taking French and Chinese LOL

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[Himu]

all i know is i learned it in modern american history class. i mean, besides college there's also the fact that during the olympics and other intl. events taiwan clearly wants separation from china where they're labeled "chinese taipei". I'm shocked someone running for president wouldn't know something so basic in the international level. this has been a major point for china and taiwan and america for literally decades.

just from this year:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/05/sport/taiwan-olympics-chinese-taipei/

[Himu]

tbf this is information that should be in HS as well. believe this was covered in AP world history i don't remember

[etiolate]

Who needs (((higher education))) when there's free resources like the internet

 USA:(Image removed from quote.)
 
 Rest of the World: CUCKS

On serious note: Higher education is going to have to change.

It's honestly just a scheme to get youth to gamble thousands of dollars they don't have on the future job market. You don't get what you pay for in the matter of education. That's a sunk cost. You are going into debt on the hopes of the job you get afterwards. A lot of information can be found online, and while some is restricted behind paywalls, the paywalls themselves are likely far less than the cost of college. You do the deal for a certificate that is gradually going down in status and worth. As higher education becomes more of a business, the less standards it can have. You do not revoke customers at the checkout line as long as the credit card goes through.

[Himu]

[VomKriege]

all i know is i learned it in modern american history class. i mean, besides college there's also the fact that during the olympics and other intl. events taiwan clearly wants separation from china where they're labeled "chinese taipei". I'm shocked someone running for president wouldn't know something so basic in the international level. this has been a major point for china and taiwan and america for literally decades.

Beware of believing Trump dumber than he actually is. He tweeted in 2011 that Obama was wrong to withhold F16 fighter planes sales from Taiwan because it was the wrong signal to senc to the PRC. He was obviously aware of the basic facts about the island then.

[agrajag]

Who needs (((higher education))) when there's free resources like the internet

 USA:(Image removed from quote.)
 
 Rest of the World: CUCKS

On serious note: Higher education is going to have to change.

It's honestly just a scheme to get youth to gamble thousands of dollars they don't have on the future job market. You don't get what you pay for in the matter of education. That's a sunk cost. You are going into debt on the hopes of the job you get afterwards. A lot of information can be found online, and while some is restricted behind paywalls, the paywalls themselves are likely far less than the cost of college. You do the deal for a certificate that is gradually going down in status and worth. As higher education becomes more of a business, the less standards it can have. You do not revoke customers at the checkout line as long as the credit card goes through.

You're telling me my U of Phoenix degree is worthless?

[Himu]

all i know is i learned it in modern american history class. i mean, besides college there's also the fact that during the olympics and other intl. events taiwan clearly wants separation from china where they're labeled "chinese taipei". I'm shocked someone running for president wouldn't know something so basic in the international level. this has been a major point for china and taiwan and america for literally decades.

Beware of believing Trump dumber than he actually is. He tweeted in 2011 that Obama was wrong to withhold F16 fighter planes sales from Taiwan because it was the wrong signal to senc to the PRC. He was obviously aware of the basic facts about the island then.

So then why?

[VomKriege]

all i know is i learned it in modern american history class. i mean, besides college there's also the fact that during the olympics and other intl. events taiwan clearly wants separation from china where they're labeled "chinese taipei". I'm shocked someone running for president wouldn't know something so basic in the international level. this has been a major point for china and taiwan and america for literally decades.

Beware of believing Trump dumber than he actually is. He tweeted in 2011 that Obama was wrong to withhold F16 fighter planes sales from Taiwan because it was the wrong signal to senc to the PRC. He was obviously aware of the basic facts about the island then.

So then why?

Why what ? Signalling a pro-Taiwan message ? Bush the lesser did something similar in April 2001 with a "vow to defend" the island and it was, not unlike Trump's call, perceived as a break in accepted usage (or poor choice of words due to inexperience). Trump one upped that with his... trademark boldness but apart from the questionable method & etiquette, it's not too hard to speculate some rationale (beyond Trump being played by some pro-Taiwan lobbies) where it makes sense : for instance if you plan on being (or appearing) tougher on the People's Republic of China. Which certainly seems coherent with a lot of the stuff he said in the past and during the campaign.

[benjipwns]

Not everyone agrees with pretending Taiwan doesn't exist as a sovereign nation just because China says otherwise.

Same as nonsense about Cuba. Iran. Etc. Foreign policy "consensus" always has a convenient "local politics" escape hatch.

Even the Concert of Europe had one.

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That nobody fucking used when they should have in 1914.

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[VomKriege]

I went to the official site for Trump campaign ( ) and here's what his "foreign policy" speech contains about the People's Republic of China :

President Obama watches helplessly as North Korea increases its aggression and expands even further with its nuclear reach. Our president has allowed China to continue its economic assault on American jobs and wealth, refusing to enforce trade rules – or apply the leverage on China necessary to rein in North Korea. He has even allowed China to steal government secrets with cyber attacks and engage in industrial espionage against the United States and its companies. We’ve let our rivals and challengers think they can get away with anything.

It seemed we put more effort into adding China to the World Trade Organization – which has been a disaster for the United States – than into stopping Al Qaeda.

Fixing our relations with China is another important step towards a prosperous century. China respects strength, and by letting them take advantage of us economically, we have lost all of their respect. We have a massive trade deficit with China, a deficit we must find a way, quickly, to balance.

Maybe half of it was written by a policy wonk, but it does ring true with the character.

[james]

I dislike how this election and pre-inauguration has really allowed so many people to feel that those icky feelings they've repressed for so long are actually acceptable. These are problems they could have worked through, but are instead parading around under the banner of normalcy. Of "decency." It has evoked the most childish response in me: OK, if that's alright for you to do, here are the things I've been holding back on. I've never wanted to hurt people as badly as I do right now, and I feel ashamed of it.

The truth of it is that all of us have things at our core which are not appropriate for sharing. All of us get along in society as a whole by operating within a complex set of rules. Everyone (them, too) must find our way back to tolerance if not acceptance. But I fear I'm going to end up getting killed while smashing the shit out of neo-jackboots if I see others being bullied.

I disagree with the whole "embrace" "listen" "understand" bullshit.

Our society is not comfortable with the concept of intelligence.

Say "Kobe is better at basketball than you" and the person will agree
Say "I am better at basketball than you" and the person may not agree, but will after we play a quick game

Rinse and repeat for strength, speed...any physical ability. X is stronger than me. Ok! Y can run faster, sure after we did a sprint I agree.

But try "X is smart than you"

OH FUCK NO

Try and prove it by competing in a test?

OH FUCK NO

We have a society where we accept that everyone has different physical skills, but somehow we're supposed to accept that everybody is on the same plane mentally.

And thats the problem.

Kobe Bryant would gain nothing by "engaging" me or "understanding me" if I claimed I was better at basketball than him. It would be a waste of his time. He would tell me to fuck off if I tried to challenge him on that.

So why are we expected to waste our time engaging with people who are mental simpletons?

If you believe the pizzagate bullshit, then you are mentally deficient. Case closed.

If you believe that trickle down economics can work, then you are not smart. Period.

Its time we accept this. Its time we realize that many, if not most Trump voters are mentally simple. The average IQ is 100 right? That means there are tens of millions of people sitting under a 90, many of whom probably hit the R button every election.

There is nothing to gain in a conversation. These people need to either be tricked into voting for the best candidate or excluded from the process.

"Why do people keep voting against their interests?"

Because they're idiots. Not in the insult way, in the medical definition way.

[Nola]

I dislike how this election and pre-inauguration has really allowed so many people to feel that those icky feelings they've repressed for so long are actually acceptable. These are problems they could have worked through, but are instead parading around under the banner of normalcy. Of "decency." It has evoked the most childish response in me: OK, if that's alright for you to do, here are the things I've been holding back on. I've never wanted to hurt people as badly as I do right now, and I feel ashamed of it.

The truth of it is that all of us have things at our core which are not appropriate for sharing. All of us get along in society as a whole by operating within a complex set of rules. Everyone (them, too) must find our way back to tolerance if not acceptance. But I fear I'm going to end up getting killed while smashing the shit out of neo-jackboots if I see others being bullied.

I disagree with the whole "embrace" "listen" "understand" bullshit.

Our society is not comfortable with the concept of intelligence.

Say "Kobe is better at basketball than you" and the person will agree
Say "I am better at basketball than you" and the person may not agree, but will after we play a quick game

Rinse and repeat for strength, speed...any physical ability. X is stronger than me. Ok! Y can run faster, sure after we did a sprint I agree.

But try "X is smart than you"

OH FUCK NO

Try and prove it by competing in a test?

OH FUCK NO

We have a society where we accept that everyone has different physical skills, but somehow we're supposed to accept that everybody is on the same plane mentally.

And thats the problem.

Kobe Bryant would gain nothing by "engaging" me or "understanding me" if I claimed I was better at basketball than him. It would be a waste of his time. He would tell me to fuck off if I tried to challenge him on that.

So why are we expected to waste our time engaging with people who are mental simpletons?

If you believe the pizzagate bullshit, then you are mentally deficient. Case closed.

If you believe that trickle down economics can work, then you are not smart. Period.

Its time we accept this. Its time we realize that many, if not most Trump voters are mentally simple. The average IQ is 100 right? That means there are tens of millions of people sitting under a 90, many of whom probably hit the R button every election.

There is nothing to gain in a conversation. These people need to either be tricked into voting for the best candidate or excluded from the process.

"Why do people keep voting against their interests?"

Because they're idiots. Not in the insult way, in the medical definition way.

And how do you intend to learn what needs to be done in order to "trick" these "mentally deficient" imbeciles to vote for your preferred candidate?

[Himu]

ahhhh if you can't beat em, buy your way into politics

my wwe boycott starts now. oh wait, i haven't watched all year.  Sorry NXT.

Of all the things to draw the line at for supporting WWE. Linda getting rewarded for having a 30 year working relationship with Trump is your line in the sand. Not the decades of racism and sexism, the rapists and murderers in their HOF, the scummy business practices, the sex abuse scandal, the drugs and steroids, the brain damage issue, the saintification of a legitimate pimp (Fabulous Moolah), and about 1000 other things. You were okay with WWE already having a 30 year relationship with Trump, but now it's too much?

 

I wasn't necessarily ok with other things they did. I was vocal about them quite often. But Linda giving Trump 3 million during his campaign while having a company face with an anti-bully motto? Yeah, it bothers me that the WWE basically gave money to the Trump campaign - a campaign that ran on hate and fear. I will not reward those efforts. Sorry if that triggers you.

[benjipwns]

Linda already threw away $100 million on two failed Senate bids under the GOP banner, what's another $3 million between friends.

[Himu]

Trump didn't run for president before 2015. It's not silly you moron. I and most of America had no real problem with Trump before this election. But when he campaigned on hate and getting endorsements by and recruiting white supremacists, I have problem if Linda Be-A-Star McMahon gives money to his campaign while pubicly disparaging him. Comparing the last 30 years to the last two makes you look like a dumbass. Stick to the wrestling or neogaf thread and leave me alone.

[brawndolicious]

I went to the official site for Trump campaign ( ) and here's what his "foreign policy" speech contains about the People's Republic of China :

President Obama watches helplessly as North Korea increases its aggression and expands even further with its nuclear reach. Our president has allowed China to continue its economic assault on American jobs and wealth, refusing to enforce trade rules – or apply the leverage on China necessary to rein in North Korea. He has even allowed China to steal government secrets with cyber attacks and engage in industrial espionage against the United States and its companies. We’ve let our rivals and challengers think they can get away with anything.

It seemed we put more effort into adding China to the World Trade Organization – which has been a disaster for the United States – than into stopping Al Qaeda.

Fixing our relations with China is another important step towards a prosperous century. China respects strength, and by letting them take advantage of us economically, we have lost all of their respect. We have a massive trade deficit with China, a deficit we must find a way, quickly, to balance.

Maybe half of it was written by a policy wonk, but it does ring true with the character.

His plan is to (intentionally) burn bridges with China by acting stupid and crude so that he can make them out into a boogeyman. Which makes sense to do if he expects the US economy to do shitty. Considering he's the man "in charge"....

I'm hoping the economy does go through a recession but not a deep one. I feel like most of the big proposals he has will take years to really cause damage as long as liberals don't buckle to compromise.

[benjipwns]

Trump ran for President in 1999/2000.

If he hadn't we'd probably never know Trump Hand Sanitizer exists.

[VomKriege]

President-elect now calling out an union leader on his twitter, seemingly inciting fuckheads to make threatening calls.

[Brehvolution]

I'm glad Trump is calling out the guy who is calling out his BS with the carrier deal. More attention needs to be brought to this farce which is the 1st of many to come.

[james]

And how do you intend to learn what needs to be done in order to "trick" these "mentally deficient" imbeciles to vote for your preferred candidate?

Id start by reading the Art of the Deal. Then Id turn on TLC to see what keeps them entertained.

Remember how the elite mocked Trump for bringing on the Duck Dynasty idiots into the fray?

Well, birds of a feather. You want idiot voters, you show them idiot role models.

Incidentally, populist candidates in Latin America have mastered the art of extracting the vote from low information voters. Its not apples to apples though, as many of them are low information due to a bad school system and poverty, and not necessarily due to a low IQ. Call up the Chavez and Lula campaign managers and and bring them on board.



News update from our boy ROCKY

In Nevada, the partial recount should be completed by the end of the week. If it shows over a one percent difference in votes for De La Fuente, it will trigger a statewide recount, and in De La Fuente’s case, his existing vote count is so low that as few as three votes could be enough.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/8/1608635/-State-of-the-Recount-Michigan-halted-hearing-in-PA-WI-70-complete

Oh look, the idiots who said voting 3rd party was a waste were dead wrong.

Take another L yas queen imbeciles

[Brehvolution]

https://corrupt.af/

[Samson Manhug]

Government might shutdown because of Democratic Senators over coal miner health insurance.  The House passed the CR yesterday and skipped town so odds of Democrats getting what they want is very slim. I doubt it will shutdown, but if the CR isn't passed by Senate today the federal government is closed tomorrow:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/government-shutdown-spending-bill-democrats-senate-232411

[benjipwns]

[james]

Government might shutdown because of Democratic Senators over coal miner health insurance.  The House passed the CR yesterday and skipped town so odds of Democrats getting what they want is very slim. I doubt it will shutdown, but if the CR isn't passed by Senate today the federal government is closed tomorrow:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/government-shutdown-spending-bill-democrats-senate-232411

This is what dems should do.

Close the government for 4 years. Dont let Trump do any damage.

Voters will be upset at Trump for not getting anything done, landslide election for dems.

Also

[benjipwns]

finally queen elizabeth gets what's coming to her

[etiolate]

You all should be paying attention to this shit. That is some dangerous door opening. State wants to filter information flow and is putting pressure on social media companies to do it for them if they don't get their way via the passing of bills.

The coordination of this with the narrative should alert people. WashPo put out that article on secret Russian propaganda agents without verifying it, got called out, and then did a wishy-washy backpedal. They set out the idea without evidence, then start a bill, and have a political figure speak to its importance.

All after losing an election.

[etiolate]

And on that note, Trump continues with the flag burning nonsense:

https://twitter.com/colinjones/status/807325700306956292

[VomKriege]

 
"Like that flag over there beautiful... You can say what you want about free speech, I love free speech I'm a big believer in it... but maybe we're gonna do something about it"

[Syph]

"Like that flag over there beautiful... You can say what you want about free speech, I love free speech I'm a big believer in it... but maybe we're gonna do something about it"

I've noticed that all these right-wing populist shit bags keep going on and on about free speech but at the same time give off authoritarian vibes who just wanna shut people the fuck up whenever they want to.

and yet

[benjipwns]

people on gaf always seemed to get more upset when i outlined absolutist free speech stances (or the presumption of innocence in state trials) than opposing the legitimacy of the state/government to make laws in general

[benjipwns]

Illustrating the difference a successful interview makes, Mr. Trump came away impressed after a session in New York last month with former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who is now considered the leading candidate to head the Energy Department. Advisers to both men said the meeting lasted longer than expected.

Sorry. Oops.

[VomKriege]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/opinion/the-world-fears-trumps-america-thats-a-good-thing.html

I'm all for realpolitik but this opinion piece is  .

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

And on that note, Trump continues with the flag burning nonsense:

"When I was young I don't remember that happening."

Dude, you were young in the 60's and 70's. It was pretty much the only time it ever happened, if it ever really did all that much.

[benjipwns]

the late Justice Antonin Scalia said while he doesn’t like the practice [of flag burning], “we have a First Amendment, which says that the right of free speech shall not be abridged.”

(In this same speech today Trump said he wants to find a Supreme Court nominee “that is as close to Justice Scalia as possible.”)

[benjipwns]

In both cases, William J. Brennan wrote the majority opinion, joined by Thurgood Marshall, Harry Blackmun, Antonin Scalia, and Anthony Kennedy (Kennedy also authored a separate concurrence in Johnson), and the dissenters in both cases were then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist (who authored a dissent in Johnson), and Justices John Paul Stevens (who authored dissents in both cases), Byron White and Sandra Day O'Connor.

i love when the SC puts up lineups like those

i think there was a case not so long ago where the dissenters were RBG, Scalia, Sotomeyer, and Thomas

[benjipwns]

From 1995 to 2005, beginning with the 104th Congress, the proposed amendment was approved biennially by the two-thirds majority necessary in the U.S. House of Representatives, but it consistently failed to achieve the same constitutionally-required super-majority vote in the U.S. Senate. During some sessions, the proposed amendment did not even come to a vote in the Senate before the expiration of the Congress' term. The last time it was considered, in the 109th Congress, the Amendment failed by one vote in the Senate. Some Senate Republican aides indicated that almost a dozen of the Republican senators who voted for the amendment were privately opposed to it, and they believed that these senators would have voted to defeat the amendment if required.

fuckery 

[benjipwns]

the Johnson of Johnson is on the right (the guy on the left is his lawyer)

 

[Trent Dole]

This is all just an attempt at baiting anti trumpsters into burning flags outside of his rallies at which point his supporters will start firing at the 'disruptors' and thus... make it unsafe for him to hold his rallies? I'm not sure what the end game is here.

[recursivelyenumerable]

the Johnson of Johnson is on the right (the guy on the left is his lawyer)
(Image removed from quote.)
 

this is one of the most strangely hot pictures

[recursivelyenumerable]

anyway what if I got a flag to go super saiyajin. what would you do then hmmmmm? 

[VomKriege]

Exxon CEO now "favorite" for Secretary of State, supposedly and if it means anything beyond the manufactured drama.
Giulani did make a formal statement to signal he was exiting that race.

Also LOL Mitt being possibly cucked.

[VomKriege]

An article on US-Russia relations under Obama or really about the power dynamics between Putin and Medveded during the latter's tenure as President. Kremlinology not dead.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/12/09/the-russian-reset-that-never-was-putin-obama-medvedev-libya-mikhail-zygar-all-the-kremlin-men/

For its part, the new U.S. administration tried to offer the Kremlin assurances that the mutual resentment of the Bush era was history. Speaking in February 2009 at the Munich security conference, Vice President Joe Biden said Russia and the United States should press the “reset button on their relationship.” A month later, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton met in Geneva, where Clinton gave her counterpart a symbolic button they were to press together. Printed on the button was the word “reset” in both English and Russian. Unfortunately, the Russian version was misspelled, and instead of “reset” (perezagruzka) it said “overload” (peregruzka). Lavrov explained the mistake to his embarrassed colleague but still agreed to press it, joking that he would “try to prevent system overload in Russian-U.S. relations.”

I'm not super convinced by the conclusion that Russia seriously feels they are being expelled from the Powers circle (though indeed she is being assertive).

[benjipwns]

Speaking of cucks, I kinda started to develop a soft spot for seeing Medvedev when he'd be in all those absurd Russian setups that Putin had built back up to Soviet/Tsardom eras with the giant doors and ten mile long hallways and shit before every tiny little appearance, plus he was short and small, and he was so obviously supposed to just keep the seat warm for Putin. And you could see him becoming increasingly miserable after being so happy about it all in his first couple years.

Paulo Toro1 year ago
he dance just like Elaine from Seinfeld

Ivan Sedajew9 months ago
i wish in usa there was a president like Putin, America fucked up wars everywhere

i wish in usa there was a president who would dance like Elaine

tho Trump's "dad dancing" on SNL was pretty gud

[benjipwns]

So that guy whose article above I posted about Democrats not paying taxes, I actually read his book some time ago (may have posted about it in book thread), and his solution was a semi-proportional allocation of Electoral Votes. Basically, the current EVs would be divided by % of the vote, rounding up for the top two parties. Then another "third" of EVs would be awarded to the winner for the state.

Under his system it would have been...(without his bonus)
Trump: 357 (254)
Clinton: 336 (260)
Johnson: 10 (10)
Stein: 1 (1)
McMullin: 1 (1)

And I'm supposed to trust this guy with tax law?

[Take My Breh Away]

https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/807414254630539264

Trump is attacking the CIA to defend Russia after the CIA said they suspect Russian intervention in the election

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-cyber-russia-idUSKBN13Z02Q?il=0

The gipper is probably spinning in his grave so hard his corpse might hit molten core soon.

[seagrams hotsauce]

i cant wait to die

[T-Short]

i cant wait to die

https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/807601365132382208

[VomKriege]

Apparently reporters are really convinced that Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon, will get the SoS nomination with NBC mentioning John Bolton as the Deputy SoS.
Tillerson is apparently very familiar with Russia and Putin due to the extensive business dealings of Exxon over there.
One wonders just how strong exactly is Trump obsession with foreign oil to make such a nomination...

[TakingBackSunday]

this country is plain fucked

[Great Rumbler]

Drain the swamp, amirite lol

[brawndolicious]

Don't be such pussies. You got the whole world watching while the conservatives are in control and have all of their hopes in Donald Trump.

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Who just shat on the CIA for mistakes made under the last Republican president. I pity the poor fools.

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[VomKriege]

Drain the swamp, amirite lol

More like drain the tar sands.

However, if chosen, Tillerson would be one of the few people selected for major roles in the Trump administration to believe that human activity causes climate change.

Though it seems that he is of the "...but we can't be sure of how much human activity accounts for it" variety.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN14004D?il=0

[VomKriege]

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1400TY?il=0

"I fully understand the 'one China policy,' but I don't know why we have to be bound by a 'one China policy' unless we make a deal with China having to do with other things, including trade," Trump said on an interview with Fox News Sunday.

I guess one more chit in the column of his foreign policy probably taking the form of agressive bilateral bargaining.

[Samson Manhug]

On election night I was at a watch party hosted by progressives who train women to run for office. As it was becoming clear Trump won, I was asked ironically and sadly, "What are we going to do?"

Attempting to lighten the mood, I joked, "I don't know about you, but I'm moving to Exxon-Mobil-controlled Syria!"

 

[benjipwns]

[VomKriege]

So I went to the Global Times, which often voices some of the sanctioned consensus or official framing and it seems the PRC is still trying to defuse the latest Trump comments.

"Trump is a novice at dealing with diplomatic and international relations issues," Li said, "He is inexperienced in sensitive and complicated issues except for business and trade. His knowledge about Sino-US relations, particularly the Taiwan question, is very superficial, which gives him the nerve to say whatever he likes. (...) these ideas may come from some of his conservative consultants, not necessarily from him. (...) he's very fickle as well, he may eat his words sometime soon. (...) Trump is still immature (...) prevent him from being manipulated by some conservative forces."

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1023150.shtml

The message hammering is a bit insane for such a short article. 
I see Chinese Marxists still are using the good old, mysterious and elusive reactionary forces.

[VomKriege]

From the same interview on Fox, apparently.

“You know, I'm, like, a smart person. I don't have to be told the same thing in the same words every single day for the next eight years. Could be eight years — but eight years. I don't need that” (...) “But I don't need to be told, the same thing every day, every morning, same words, ‘Sir, nothing has changed. Let's go over it again.' I don't need that.”

In lieu of receiving the daily briefings every day, Trump said the retired generals he has nominated for his Cabinet, James Mattis as secretary of defense and John Kelly as secretary of homeland security, are being regularly briefed. As is Vice President-elect Mike Pence, who Trump called “one of my very good decisions.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-briefings-232479

 

[benjipwns]

Terry Branstad is apparently good friends with Xi Jinping

though John Podesta's ThinkProgress didn't seem to agree: