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[etiolate]

http://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2017/02/so-far-rate-of-hate-crimes-in-2017-outpacing-2016-109621

Some critics cast doubt on local tallies of hate crimes, preferring the annual figures released by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, since they apply one standard definition of a hate crime to incidents that take place throughout the nation’s various police districts.

Or they cast doubt because reports of hate crimes aren't the same as actual processed hate crimes. There's a DB for keeping track of the reports vs how many turn out to be false.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

[Freyj]

well actually

[T-Short]

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/833106405708144640

 

https://twitter.com/BeardedGenius/status/833271625508409345

[thisismyusername]

http://www.inquisitr.com/3992467/dnc-disrespecting-bernie-sanders-and-arrogance-lost-2016-election-not-russia/

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-sweden-idUSKBN15Y0QH

"You look at what's happening last night in Sweden," Trump said. "Sweden. Who would believe this? Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible."

"We are trying to get clarity," Swedish Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Catarina Axelsson said.

[Nola]

http://www.inquisitr.com/3992467/dnc-disrespecting-bernie-sanders-and-arrogance-lost-2016-election-not-russia/

Multi-causality, how does it work?

[sarslip]

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/833106405708144640

 

https://twitter.com/BeardedGenius/status/833271625508409345

not bad, woulda worked better with Lose Yourself

[benjipwns]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-impeachment-democrats-235184

They call it the ‘I’ word.

Just a month into Donald Trump’s presidency, Democratic Party leaders are trying to rein in the talk of impeachment that’s animating the grass roots, the product of a restive base demanding deeper and more aggressive investigations into Trump’s ties to Russia.

Democratic officials in Republican-dominated Washington view the entire subject as a trap, a premature discussion that could backfire in spectacular fashion by making the party appear too overzealous in its opposition to Trump. Worse, they fear, it could harden Republican support for the president by handing his party significant fundraising and political ammunition when the chances of success for an early impeachment push are remote, at best.

Still, most congressional Democrats insist on drawing a line that stops far short of using the loaded term. Responding to Waters' impeachment chatter this month, Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said, "When and if he breaks the law, that is when something like that would come up. But that's not the subject of today."

They believe that even if they did have enough evidence to start impeachment proceedings — which they don’t, since a number of investigations are still in their early stages, and Democrats can’t just impeach a president because they don’t like him — they wouldn’t have anywhere near enough votes as long as Trump-sympathetic Republicans control the majority.

Neither party leadership nor the campaign committees have circulated talking points or suggested ways to respond to impeachment questions that are starting to appear. But they are already aware of the potential electoral blowback to the party.

Senate Democratic leadership is for now content with the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee taking the lead

#RESIST

[Trent Dole]

https://twitter.com/veryimportant/status/833371252970635266

[benjipwns]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/fec-elections-ann-ravel-campaign-finance.html

WASHINGTON — A Democrat on the Federal Election Commission is quitting her term early because of the gridlock that has gripped the panel, offering President Trump an unexpected chance to shape political spending rules.

The commissioner, Ann M. Ravel, said during an interview that she would send Mr. Trump her letter of resignation this week. She pointed to a series of deadlocked votes between the panel’s three Democrats and three Republicans that she said left her little hope the group would ever be able to rein in campaign finance abuses.

“The ability of the commission to perform its role has deteriorated significantly,” said Ms. Ravel, who has sparred bitterly with the Republican election commissioners during her three years on the panel. She added, “I think I can be more effective on the outside.”

Her departure will probably set off an intense political fight over how a new commissioner should be picked. By tradition, Senate Democrats would be allowed to select the replacement, but, by law, the choice belongs to the president, and Mr. Trump has shown little interest in Washington customs.

I see no downsides to Ms. Ravel's desired agenda.

[T-Short]

https://www.facebook.com/FrankieBoyleFans/posts/1412914425416586

Frankie

[archie4208]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/833681539997253636

I didn't realize the president was a teenage girl from the 90s. 

[T-Short]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/833681539997253636

I didn't realize the president was a teenage girl from the 90s. 

He's right though, it's like fuckin' Hunger Games over here

http://www.thelocal.se/20170217/confused-randy-elk-mounts-wooden-elk-in-swedes-garden

[Take My Breh Away]

https://twitter.com/elainaplott/status/833741436923285505

Someone flew too close to the sun

[ToxicAdam]

NASA has some big announcement today. I found it humorous to think that we found proof of alien life and Donald Trump is going to be our representative of our species.

Like meeting your future in-laws after you just shit yourself. 'So sorry, please come back later!"

[Phoenix Dark]

[Joe Molotov]

Breitbart is just playing into his hands and giving his views more oxygen, they should let him speak. *wrings hands*

[Vertigo]

https://www.facebook.com/FrankieBoyleFans/posts/1412914425416586

Frankie

So many quotables.    Shame on the guardian getting shook.

[FStop7]

"but what about free speech!" - Jerry Sandusky

[zomgee]

https://twitter.com/PublishersWkly/status/833802274187120640

lol

Dear Diary I had such a day today

[etiolate]

The Milo thing is weird because that Rogan interview is old and his jokes about sucking preacher cock are oldhat. I guess being on Maher was an accomplishment that ruffled too high level of feathers.

[Vertigo]

The Milo thing is weird because that Rogan interview is old and his jokes about sucking preacher cock are oldhat. I guess being on Maher was an accomplishment that ruffled too high level of feathers.

That this was the threshold is hilarious. The sheer speed that 'top tier' conservatives have shut him out is pretty interesting. Even more funny after he said on Bill Maher on Friday that he wouldn't say he was a pure conservative.

I think a punished Milo is going to be a lot more interesting.

[etiolate]

The Milo thing is weird because that Rogan interview is old and his jokes about sucking preacher cock are oldhat. I guess being on Maher was an accomplishment that ruffled too high level of feathers.

That this was the threshold is hilarious. The sheer speed that 'top tier' conservatives have shut him out is pretty interesting. Even more funny after he said on Bill Maher on Friday that he wouldn't say he was a pure conservative.

I think a punished Milo is going to be a lot more interesting.

I am seeing some weird celebrations of it. This sends Milo where? Back to the internet that spawned him and is more of the cultural maker than the platform that is punishing him?

I feel like it's just going to get weirder.

[chronovore]

https://www.facebook.com/FrankieBoyleFans/posts/1412914425416586

Frankie

"Seemingly everyday we have the unveiling of some new cabinet member who has stepped screaming into our dimension after being outwitted by a princess in a cautionary folktale."

[chronovore]

https://twitter.com/veryimportant/status/833371252970635266

 I tried watching this interview yesterday and struggled through about two thirds of it. I was surprised to find myself screaming at my home computer at Milo when he claimed that transgender people are involved in more sexual related crimes, disproportionately. 

 Sadly I realized his statement was technically true although he was recontextualizing it.  Milo clearly intended to imply that transgendered people commit more crimes, but his grammar can be defended by the actual truth: transgendered people are the victims in a disproportionate number of sexually related crimes.

[etiolate]

The panel being to clueless to know how to challenge that says a lot about Maher's guests.

[FStop7]

I haven't watched Maher since Politically Incorrect.  The show was infuriating to watch back then because just as a guest would start to contextualize a statement he'd cut them off and go to a break.  From what I've heard Real Time isn't much better even though it's a commercial free format.  Which tells me that Maher's not actually interested in discussion but rather having pundits bark half-formed thoughts at each other.

[Phoenix Dark]

I was surprised it took this long. The Muslim and trans stuff was never going to take him down, but when I saw that pedo video a few months ago I figured that would bring him down eventually. If there's something most adults can agree on across political lines it's that pedophilia is disgusting.

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ironically the Prophet Mohammad would agree with Milo on this 

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[etiolate]

Salon would agree with him if he actually went pro-pedo. 

Milo has always been pro-deviancy. He's about transgressing current moralities. His view of gay life and culture is that it should experiment, so his idea that he'd have a relationship with a preacher at 17 is nothing new or that he'd tease it out as being more scandalous.

But at the same time, he'll wag his finger at various things for being abhorrent. So he's a hypocrite and an insincere troll, but admonishing him for pedo defense when it's not really what he's doing seems like it's going to end up with his return.

[Nola]

I haven't watched Maher since Politically Incorrect.  The show was infuriating to watch back then because just as a guest would start to contextualize a statement he'd cut them off and go to a break.  From what I've heard Real Time isn't much better even though it's a commercial free format.  Which tells me that Maher's not actually interested in discussion but rather having pundits bark half-formed thoughts at each other.

He has always came off to me as the closest to being the twin of the sort of know-it-all unprepared conservative pundits. Which is why I think he is the most frequent target for the right. He's an easier target.

Like that whole Milo thing, I had to turn it off because it just came off like Maher didn't even bother to prepare properly for this showcase interview.

[etiolate]

His show is very pandering. His biggest disagreements as guests are Milo and Afleck, which are not a pair of rhetorical wizards in any way.

[chronovore]

https://www.facebook.com/FrankieBoyleFans/posts/1412914425416586

Frankie

"Seemingly everyday we have the unveiling of some new cabinet member who has stepped screaming into our dimension after being outwitted by a princess in a cautionary folktale."

One more: "I sometimes think that the new right have arisen without warning, then I remember that there were loads of warnings but I just kept muting and blocking them all."

[curly]

Milo could rape a kid on stage and etoilet would think it's only going to make him stronger

[Vertigo]

I like Maher. Out of all the blowhards on TV he always has pretty interesting guests even wankers I wouldn't say I particularity like.

[etiolate]

Milo could rape a kid on stage and etoilet would think it's only going to make him stronger

Are you saying he's an interdimensional vampire?

[Oblivion]

"Last week he gave the sort of press conference that in a movie would bring a weary superhero out of retirement. "

 

I haven't watched Maher since Politically Incorrect.  The show was infuriating to watch back then because just as a guest would start to contextualize a statement he'd cut them off and go to a break.  From what I've heard Real Time isn't much better even though it's a commercial free format.  Which tells me that Maher's not actually interested in discussion but rather having pundits bark half-formed thoughts at each other.

He has always came off to me as the closest to being the twin of the sort of know-it-all unprepared conservative pundits. Which is why I think he is the most frequent target for the right. He's an easier target.

Like that whole Milo thing, I had to turn it off because it just came off like Maher didn't even bother to prepare properly for this showcase interview.

As I keep saying, this is a complete misunderstanding of why Maher invited that dipshit on his show to begin with. He was never planning on debating him or calling him out because he was also kicked out of Berkeley and asked Milo to come on so that he could bond with him.

[Syph]

back with a momentary Rubio-related driveby


rubio-gowdy-haley dreamteam 

pce out

[seagrams hotsauce]

A number of responses to this I've seen from right-wing sources have noted how they couldn't believe anyone with 'conservative values' wouldn't be disgusted by this, which is admittedly a kinda clever way of politicizing pedophelia

[CatsCatsCats]

So Milo is a piece of shit because he was abused. Can't I just hate anyone in peace anymore?

[Boredfrom]

A number of responses to this I've seen from right-wing sources have noted how they couldn't believe anyone with 'conservative values' wouldn't be disgusted by this, which is admittedly a kinda clever way of politicizing pedophelia

Is also a way to distance themselves from Milo while claiming he was not a true conservative.

[sarslip]

[Mupepe]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/politics/dhs-immigration-guidance-detentions/index.html

I have family that is here under DACA and without papers at all.  I now fear that DACA is basically a self submitted list of easy targets.  Fuck.  ICE has gotten really aggressive over the last couple of weeks.  A week or so ago they had set up a checkpoint outside a Houston neighborhood that's under construction because of course the laborers that build the homes are largely Hispanic.

[I'm a Puppy!]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/politics/dhs-immigration-guidance-detentions/index.html

I have family that is here under DACA and without papers at all.  I now fear that DACA is basically a self submitted list of easy targets.  Fuck.  ICE has gotten really aggressive over the last couple of weeks.  A week or so ago they had set up a checkpoint outside a Houston neighborhood that's under construction because of course the laborers that build the homes are largely Hispanic.

If it's any consolation we went through something similar with Reagan's Amnesty in the 80s. Reagan announced an amnesty lottery (although we were here on a international student visa) and my mom won it, we spent several thousand on paperwork and all that. And after we had put in all the paperwork and paid all the fees congress shut it down. So we were there with Immigration having all our information and then congress blustering about deporting everyone. In the end we were OK. YMMV of course, but this isn't necessarily something we didn't see before. Hang in there.

[benjipwns]

rupert murdoch
whoever tucker's booker is

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[close]

[Sausage]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/politics/dhs-immigration-guidance-detentions/index.html

I have family that is here under DACA and without papers at all.  I now fear that DACA is basically a self submitted list of easy targets.  Fuck.  ICE has gotten really aggressive over the last couple of weeks.  A week or so ago they had set up a checkpoint outside a Houston neighborhood that's under construction because of course the laborers that build the homes are largely Hispanic.

My mom is an elementary school teacher at a school with a pretty high hispanic population and she was saying there were like 80 kids missing, and of the kids that are there are worried about moving back to Mexico

[Take My Breh Away]

https://twitter.com/grynbaum/status/834124012678676485

Take the money and run

[FStop7]

Tucker Carlson has the world's most punchable face.


Re: Milo:  Bye bitch.  Enjoy your new cubicle in Alex Jones' basement dungeon.

[ToxicAdam]

They need to refer to Milo as 'Future Dancing with the Stars contestant'.

[Joe Molotov]

Re: Milo:  Bye bitch.  Enjoy your new cubicle in Alex Jones' basement dungeon.

Can you craft pedophilic reptilian conspiracies alongside a pederasty advocate?

 

Yes?

[etiolate]

The alex jones angle will be this:

Milo is the truth teller that they're throwing under the bus to take the pedo heat off for the real pedos!

They'll cite Salon suddenly removing all their pro-pedo articles.

[zomgee]

Milo really is the gay frog Alex was warning us about.

[benjipwns]

And like all trolls, Yiannopoulos thinks his provocations are brilliant, when actually he's just a goof with an accent and a C-minus mind who says witlessly obnoxious things and through sheer accident of historical circumstance gets rewarded for it.

He seems genuinely to believe that he's one of the first people ever to notice that you can make a good living through lying and the unscrupulous use of hate speech. With the confidence of a person who hasn't yet discovered the depth of his own unoriginality, he leans into controversies instead of recoiling from them, sure he can always spin things in a pinch.

somebody's jealous

[chronovore]

https://twitter.com/jzellis/status/834153776885882880

[Raist]

And like all trolls, Yiannopoulos thinks his provocations are brilliant, when actually he's just a goof with an accent and a C-minus mind who says witlessly obnoxious things and through sheer accident of historical circumstance gets rewarded for it.

He seems genuinely to believe that he's one of the first people ever to notice that you can make a good living through lying and the unscrupulous use of hate speech. With the confidence of a person who hasn't yet discovered the depth of his own unoriginality, he leans into controversies instead of recoiling from them, sure he can always spin things in a pinch.

somebody's jealous

He seems genuinely to believe that he's one of the first people ever to notice that you can make a good living through lying

Yeah, nothing new for Rolling Stone 

[agrajag]

Milo isn't going away, no. But I think if anything, his fall from grace is accelerating the rift between mainstream Republicans and alt-righters. There's no way Republicans would want to be associated with Milo now.

[benjipwns]

now i'm convinced they're faking these guests

[etiolate]

https://twitter.com/greggutfeld/status/834229620480294917

[benjipwns]

What Is Fascism?

January 11, 2017 by Refuse Fascism
The Call, “In the Name of Humanity, We REFUSE To Accept a Fascist America!” says:

“Fascism foments and relies on xenophobic nationalism, racism, misogyny, and the aggressive re-institution of oppressive “traditional values.” Fascism feeds on and encourages the threat and use of violence to build a movement and come to power. Fascism, once in power, essentially eliminates traditional democratic rights. Fascism attacks, jails, even executes its opponents, and launches violent mob attacks on “minorities.” In Nazi Germany in the 1930s and ’40s, fascism did all these things. This is where this can go. And yes, Hitler himself could “talk graciously” when he felt it would serve his interests and lull his opponents.”

And by any definition of fascism, the Trump regime is a fascist regime.

[benjipwns]

manifest the no

[benjipwns]

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