US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Brehvolution]

Imagine the outrage on the right if Obama blocked fox news from briefings.

[ToxicAdam]

blocked from WH press briefings.  Saw this coming a mile away.

Isn't it the 'press gaggle' which is the informal press briefings that aren't taped?

Maybe that's the only way the Trump organization communicates anymore. IDK

[Boredfrom]

Lol prepare to get fucked Trump

I hate to say it but...

Nah.

Still, feels like a desperate move given how long he took to do it when the speculation was since before Inauguration Day. Probably they realized it was risky idea until the leaks become daily occurrence.

[archie4208]

CNN
NYT
LAT
Politico
Buzzfeed

blocked from WH press briefings.  Saw this coming a mile away.

I'm no political genius, but isn't intentionally pissing off the media going to want them to take you down even more?   

[Joe Molotov]

It's kind of funny that people forget or aren't aware that Mike Pence tried to shut out local news in Indiana and disseminate everything through a state run system where every bit of news had to be approved by his administration before being released to the public. The idea was so ridiculous that fellow republicans were making "lol is this Russia" jokes about it before the negative reaction got it scrapped a couple of weeks before it went live.

Little did they know

I remember, but I read a lot of DailyKos.

[Steve Contra]

Man, i know the media narrative about not calling Conservatives stupid, but my god these people are really fucking stupid.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/nras-wayne-lapierre-tells-cpac-crowd-that-far-left-protesters-are-paid-1500-a-week/

[Atramental]

Where do I go to sign up for my George Soros protest money? 

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/david_j_roth/status/835199468077268992
https://twitter.com/david_j_roth/status/835200467802157056

[Syph]

Imagine the outrage on the right if Obama blocked fox news from briefings.

oh wait, he did on multiple occassions
ps. they're inexcusable in every case

[curly]

What's the genesis of the paid protester thing? It's such an inherently ridiculous idea (although I suppose that doesn't mean much these days).

[El Babua]

koch brothers paying tea party organizers 

[Kara]

What's the genesis of the paid protester thing? It's such an inherently ridiculous idea (although I suppose that doesn't mean much these days).

I'd like to say that it's the product of understanding that we pay dissident (and "dissident") groups abroad to undermine certain governments and, consequently, that it could happen here, but that would require that we exist on an Earth where your average American actually knows anything about the world at large.

[Mandark]

What's the genesis of the paid protester thing? It's such an inherently ridiculous idea (although I suppose that doesn't mean much these days).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11/17/facebook-fake-news-writer-i-think-donald-trump-is-in-the-white-house-because-of-me/?utm_term=.d40532661ef9

His followers don’t fact-check anything — they’ll post everything, believe anything. His campaign manager posted my story about a protester getting paid $3,500 as fact. Like, I made that up. I posted a fake ad on Craigslist.

Why? I mean — why would you even write that?

Just ’cause his supporters were under the belief that people were getting paid to protest at their rallies, and that’s just insane. I’ve gone to Trump protests — trust me, no one needs to get paid to protest Trump. I just wanted to make fun of that insane belief, but it took off. They actually believed it.

So that could be the origin of this particular one.

I think people of any particular ideology/partisan allegiance like to imagine that their adversaries are all dupes or hucksters, for any number of reasons.

[Nola]

Imagine the outrage on the right if Obama blocked fox news from briefings.

oh wait, he did on multiple occassions
ps. they're inexcusable in every case

We are talking about the banning of actual news organizations though(and Buzzfeed).

[chronovore]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-house-gaggle/index.html

Jesus, is this as insane as it seems?

How can they do this?

[T-Short]

Major daily paper here got a lot of googletranslate traffic for this article so they made a proper translation:

https://twitter.com/dagensnyheter/status/835262086141915136

[benjipwns]

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/national-party-news/321040-i-will-leave-the-democrats-if-keith-ellison-is-elected

Tomorrow the Democratic National Committee (DNC) will have to choose the direction of the Democratic Party, as well as its likely composition. It will be among the most important choices the DNC has ever had to make. 

There has been powerful push from the hard-left of the Democratic Party, led by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), to elect Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) chairman.  If he is elected, I will quit the party after 60 years of loyal association and voting.  I will become an independent, continuing to vote for the best candidates, most of whom, I assume, will still be Democrats.  But I will not contribute to the DNC or support it as an institution. 

My loyalty to my country and my principles and my heritage exceeds any loyalty to my party.  I will urge other like-minded people — centrist liberals — to follow my lead and quit the Democratic Party if Ellison is elected chairman.  We will not be leaving the Democratic Party we have long supported.  The Democratic Party will be leaving us!

[Take My Breh Away]

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/835488569850494976

Someone's intern is getting a better letter of recommendation than they would have when they leave

[Cerveza mas fina]

question muhammed alis son at the airport brehs

[Mandark]

tbh wouldn't mind seeing the end of "even Democrat Alan Dershowitz says torture is okay!"

[Nola]

Perez is new DNC chair.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/tom-perez-elected-as-first-latino-leader-of-democratic-party/2017/02/25/1fd76f52-fad7-11e6-9845-576c69081518_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_dncelection-330pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory


https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/835589406820036608

[Boredfrom]

Bernie stans throwing a hissy fit because he's not Ellison and they have no idea who Perez is (a liberal whom they most likely agree with on many issues BUT HE'S NOT ELLISON WAH WAH, BABY WANT BOTTLE, BABY WANT BOTTLE!!111).

Eight years of Trump

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I said this independently of the actual politician, just that this devolving in yet another BernieVSClinton drama.

[close]

[curly]

More Bernie vs Obama imo. Looked like an easy win for Ellison until Obama people started pushing Perez hard.

[Nola]

Bernie stans throwing a hissy fit because he's not Ellison and they have no idea who Perez is (a liberal whom they most likely agree with on many issues BUT HE'S NOT ELLISON WAH WAH, BABY WANT BOTTLE, BABY WANT BOTTLE!!111).

What is telling is that skimming GAF or Reddit or Twitter, the objections are purely identity based and not rooted in any sort of legitimate policy or organizational vision gripes.

Both candidates were by and large the same, just one guy had Bernie's blessing because Bernie was reciprocating Ellisons earlier blessing and the other side had Biden and Obama dems because of their connection. But somehow a liberal ideologue vs a liberal ideologue with only minor marginal differences got turned into Hillary vs Bernie again.

[D3RANG3D]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/835610917568200705

 

[curly]

Ok that's a pretty good troll

[Syph]

Ellison still named Deputy Chair
enjoy 8 years of Trump

[Trent Dole]

If he survives the first four, yeah. If he gets thrown out Pence isn't going to win a second term.

[D3RANG3D]

The Rock 2020 believe!

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/835608648625836032

Surprising.

[curly]

https://twitter.com/recordsANDradio/status/835493746275987460



It's horrifying yet hilarious how simple he is.

[T-Short]

https://twitter.com/CPAC/status/835498809346174977

 

[Joe Molotov]

God watching this like

[Optimus]

The DNC neoliberal fucks would rather see 8 years of Trump than lose power to the actual left.  Well, wish granted, fuck this party I'm done.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Done with what? You've been passionately railing against dems since you joined

[Raist]

God watching this like

What you mean, the god who killed babies because some pharaoh didn't want to let Moses' peeps go because god mind-controlled him to say so?

Dunno man, I think he'd approve.

[Phoenix Dark]

in which we pretend views on corporate donations is the only issue that matters

[Freyj]

Perez is leftist as fuck you moron.

He's practically latino Bernie Sanders.

Proxy Hillary v. Bernie forever.

[thisismyusername]

Perez is leftist as fuck you moron.

He's practically latino Bernie Sanders.

Proxy Hillary v. Bernie forever.

(Image removed from quote.)

Politics. Politics never changes.

[sarslip]

Trump is served his entree. According to a waiter, who wished to remain anonymous:

“The President ordered a well-done steak. An aged New York strip. He ate it with catsup as he always does.

 

[Great Rumbler]

 

[Joe Molotov]

Trump is served his entree. According to a waiter, who wished to remain anonymous:

“The President ordered a well-done steak. An aged New York strip. He ate it with catsup as he always does.

 

[chronovore]

The man is the world's best troll. He can even troll with his food intake.

He probably chews with his mouth open.

[Syph]

"What we need to be looking at is whether this election was rigged by Donald Trump and his buddy Vladimir Putin," Perez said in an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" on Sunday.

  new chair, same ineffective demoshit talking point
blues could honestly win so easily in 2020 if they stopped the whining smh

The man is the world's best troll. He can even troll with his food intake.

He probably chews with his mouth open.

gross, too far

[Nola]

"What we need to be looking at is whether this election was rigged by Donald Trump and his buddy Vladimir Putin," Perez said in an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" on Sunday.

  new chair, same ineffective demoshit talking point
blues could honestly win so easily in 2020 if they stopped the whining smh

The man is the world's best troll. He can even troll with his food intake.

He probably chews with his mouth open.

gross, too far

So whining by the left, guaranteed defeat.

Whining by the right, guaranteed victory.

Just trying to understand the reasoning at work here lol.

Because right now Trump and his supporters are outpacing on the whining scale by an order of magnitude and Republicans did it for 8 years and earned a three branch majority.

[Kara]

The Republican base (as currently constructed) will vote for whomever the party machine churns out, which is a material point of differentiation.

[Nola]

The Republican base (as currently constructed) will vote for whomever the party machine churns out, which is a material point of differentiation.

Liberals are more fickle, I will give you that. But as we saw/see with Trump, one person's whining is another person's mobilizing trigger. Your's or my particular value judgement on a behavior or line of rhetoric is immaterial to whether that behavior/rhetoric is serving as an effective mobilizer at large and weakening the target(s) it is aimed at.

If we are talking about the evidence to the effectiveness of this line of attack of going after Trump with Russia, I would say so far it is a winning tactic. It hasn't pierced the core Trump bubble(and maybe never will) but liberals are more motivated then I have seen in my lifetime and Trump is bleeding with independents. His own party is feeling increasing pressure to investigate him. Trump himself has recently shed a Russia apologist for a Russia hawk. Which continues to make his foreign policy distorted and two-faced which has made his administration look further inept and confuses the few supporters that follow.

.. But most voting decisions are made 6 months out from election, so I probably wouldn't put a whole lot of stock into what the DNC chair says a couple days into his job as a way to paint the likely outcome of 2018.

[agrajag]

People who say catsup instead of kethcup 

[Kara]

They're not just more fickle, the underlying ideology that drives both movements is dissimilar. American conservatism is resentment as politics, which is why pissing and moaning gets the 20 whatever percent of the country that decides everything for everyone to turn out again and again. Continued Republican failure to immanentize the eschaton doesn't drive them away, it just makes them more and more resentful, and more and more lockstep. In contrast, even the most insufferable wonk aspires to (more often than not nebulous) societal betterment. Sure, that aspiration might lead to loathsome nonsense like (no strawperson) means testing the gas tax, but dude, at least it's an ethos.

[Phoenix Dark]

Trump is served his entree. According to a waiter, who wished to remain anonymous:

“The President ordered a well-done steak. An aged New York strip. He ate it with catsup as he always does.

 

Two black presidents in a row

[thisismyusername]

Black people eat Steaks with ketchup?

  *that PD .gif throwing a cross into a fire*

[Mupepe]

People who say catsup instead of kethcup 

mrburnscatsupketchup.gif

[agrajag]

In my experience with black people, they are more likely to eat everything with A1 and hot sauce.

[Phoenix Dark]

I was referring to the well done steak. Ketchup on steak is 5yo shit.

[Joe Molotov]

A well-done strip steak and a bottle of your finest imported catsup, my good man.

[Joe Molotov]

And if you could arrange to have string cheese and peanut butter crackers sent up after I awaken from my nappy, there will be an extra $2 in it for you.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

good thing Trump doesn't drink, or we'd be suffering the further indignity of boxed wine and Hamm's being served at state dinners.

[CatsCatsCats]

Well done steak is an insult to the cow

[Joe Molotov]

Well done steak is an insult to the cow

Just knock it's horns off, wipe it's nasty ass, and toss it on the table.

[Phoenix Dark]

Well done steak is an insult to the cow

Not after you sprinkle some Italian dressing on top.