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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Bring Obama Back Already #boba
« Reply #10680 on: November 10, 2017, 05:21:37 PM »
Is this a hill you want to die on man? She's not going to be president, the Clinton machine is dead, none of them are going to hire you. It's over. Be like Donna Brazille and throw them in the bushes man.

Can't stop, won't stop!

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« Reply #10681 on: November 10, 2017, 06:00:13 PM »
Fucking your intern is absolutely basically the same thing as Weinstein is accused of doing. The only difference is that she liked it. But he was still abusing his power in the exact same way.

And Hillary’s conduct was pretty bad throughout. Where she had a hand in hiring private investigators to dig up dirt on women her husband had affairs with to discredit them or brand them as liars, even when they were telling the truth (I.e Gennifer Flowers)

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« Reply #10682 on: November 10, 2017, 06:08:28 PM »
It’s still a massive abuse of power.

Edit: my final position is.

1) Bill Clinton is a serial adulterer who abused his position to set up affairs on multiple occasions, and then publically smeared the women he cheated on his wife with to shut them up. In other words he’s a scum bag.

2) Hillary Clinton was happy to help. She knew her husband was a serial adulterer and also was happy to publically smear the women he cheated on her with to help him cover it up. She was is also a scumbag.

Neither is as bad as Moore or Weinstein. They are more like Louis C.K. level.

Exit2: actually somewhere in between the 2. Louis C.K. is st least aware enough to know he needed to apologize. I don’t think anyone has ever applied to Gennifer Flowers for saying she is a liar when she wasn’t.
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« Reply #10683 on: November 10, 2017, 06:48:11 PM »
WSJ alleges that Flynn may have been part of a plot to kidnap exiled cleric and Erdogan opponent Gülen and send him back covertly for Turkey against a 15m$ payment.
:mindblown

EDIT : To be exact, they report that Mueller has been investigating those claims.

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A Reuters report on Oct. 26 said one of Flynn’s business associates, former CIA Director James Woolsey, pitched a $10 million contract to two Turkish businessmen to help discredit Gulen while Woolsey was an adviser to Trump’s election campaign.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/mueller-probing-alleged-flynn-plan-to-deliver-cleric-to-turkey-wsj-idUSKBN1DA1S6
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« Reply #10684 on: November 10, 2017, 07:51:15 PM »
Jack, I hope you have a daughter one day and realize what a shitty opinion you're spouting in here.

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« Reply #10685 on: November 10, 2017, 07:54:02 PM »
Jesus, Jack.
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« Reply #10686 on: November 10, 2017, 08:04:53 PM »
party hackery :yuck

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« Reply #10687 on: November 10, 2017, 08:17:05 PM »
Fucking your intern is absolutely basically the same thing as Weinstein is accused of doing. The only difference is that she liked it. But he was still abusing his power in the exact same way.



Nah, its really not. Weinstein is accused of actual sexual assault and rape, not consensually fucking around with his intern who would go on to have fun with it on places the Tom Green Show to help advertise her handbags.

Frankly, it speaks to the power of right-wing media that so many of the innuendos and misconstrues of fact during that period have managed to find their way into the default narrative and zeitgeist on the left. No doubt helping fuel the emotionally derived macro feelings people had toward Hillary to this day. Some of which, like her tacit complicity in her husband hiring investigators to dig up dirt on Gennifer Flowers, is worth scrutinizing. Though I might question how much given the double bind she found herself in during that era(still, she could of distanced herself more cleanly than she seemingly did). Bill himself certainly has a right to be scrutinized with whether he carried into Weinstein territory on other occasions, but as Jack does rightfully point out, when the rubber met the road with a lot of those investigations, what the woman said to conservative media(or occasionally the Times) seemed to be different with what they were willing to say under oath.

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« Reply #10688 on: November 10, 2017, 08:18:37 PM »
Tillerson offers 25k for people to quit their jobs

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/929153405456670720

This really is the best timeline. Tillerson is doing everything he can to destroy whatever is left of diplomacy at this point.

You have Jared Kushner traveling to Saudi Arabia to orchestrate a palace coup in exchange for a listing on the NYSE and get the Saudi's to declare war on all of the Middle East while CNN screams Trump is too stupid to do anything.
and all that because Al Talweed gave Trump some shit on Twitter.  :doge
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« Reply #10689 on: November 10, 2017, 08:26:01 PM »
Tillerson offers 25k for people to quit their jobs

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/929153405456670720

This really is the best timeline. Tillerson is doing everything he can to destroy whatever is left of diplomacy at this point.

You have Jared Kushner traveling to Saudi Arabia to orchestrate a palace coup in exchange for a listing on the NYSE and get the Saudi's to declare war on all of the Middle East while CNN screams Trump is too stupid to do anything.
and all that because Al Talweed gave Trump some shit on Twitter.  :doge

This honestly is the real lasting damage this administration is doing. Good time to be alive if you are an industry crony opportunist though. Trump's personal narcissism, incompetence, and lack of any actual moral, constitutional, or policy principles, with a base of support ready to rationalize away anything their leader does, makes it a ripe environment for all manner of fuckery.

He might not pass any major legislation besides debt crippling tax cuts for the wealthy but he certainly seems poised to severely cripple many of the government's key institutions. Which should work great for Republicans in 5-10 years when they can than run on the idea of how broken government is and why we need to cut more of it, knowing most people will forget who broke it to begin with.

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« Reply #10690 on: November 10, 2017, 08:51:54 PM »
Jack, I hope you have a daughter one day and realize what a shitty opinion you're spouting in here.

Tell me where I'm wrong.

Dismissing Juanita Broaddrick's claims because she wasn't willing to say it happened under oath is disingenuous as fuck when in almost all of these cases of powerful men getting accused of sexual abuse the women are afraid of going public with their claims. 

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« Reply #10691 on: November 10, 2017, 09:58:19 PM »
Fucking your intern is absolutely basically the same thing as Weinstein is accused of doing. The only difference is that she liked it. But he was still abusing his power in the exact same way.



Nah, its really not. Weinstein is accused of actual sexual assault and rape, not consensually fucking around with his intern who would go on to have fun with it on places the Tom Green Show to help advertise her handbags.

Frankly, it speaks to the power of right-wing media that so many of the innuendos and misconstrues of fact during that period have managed to find their way into the default narrative and zeitgeist on the left. No doubt helping fuel the emotionally derived macro feelings people had toward Hillary to this day. Some of which, like her tacit complicity in her husband hiring investigators to dig up dirt on Gennifer Flowers, is worth scrutinizing. Though I might question how much given the double bind she found herself in during that era(still, she could of distanced herself more cleanly than she seemingly did). Bill himself certainly has a right to be scrutinized with whether he carried into Weinstein territory on other occasions, but as Jack does rightfully point out, when the rubber met the road with a lot of those investigations, what the woman said to conservative media(or occasionally the Times) seemed to be different with what they were willing to say under oath.

When it comes right down to it, how many of Weinstein’s accusations have any substantiation, either? I have not followed it closely, but it seems to be mostly he said she said.

Broaddrick is easily the most believable of the Clinton accusers and there doesn’t really seem to be a reason for her to make it up. She only recanted her testimony after she was granted immunity by the independent counsel, and apparently wanted nothing to do with the investigation until she was subpoenaed.

I don’t know whether I believe her or not, frankly.

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« Reply #10692 on: November 10, 2017, 10:28:19 PM »
This Moore thing is just sad.


Fuck Racist Rural idiots.

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« Reply #10693 on: November 10, 2017, 11:34:23 PM »
Fucking your intern is absolutely basically the same thing as Weinstein is accused of doing. The only difference is that she liked it. But he was still abusing his power in the exact same way.



Nah, its really not. Weinstein is accused of actual sexual assault and rape, not consensually fucking around with his intern who would go on to have fun with it on places the Tom Green Show to help advertise her handbags.

Frankly, it speaks to the power of right-wing media that so many of the innuendos and misconstrues of fact during that period have managed to find their way into the default narrative and zeitgeist on the left. No doubt helping fuel the emotionally derived macro feelings people had toward Hillary to this day. Some of which, like her tacit complicity in her husband hiring investigators to dig up dirt on Gennifer Flowers, is worth scrutinizing. Though I might question how much given the double bind she found herself in during that era(still, she could of distanced herself more cleanly than she seemingly did). Bill himself certainly has a right to be scrutinized with whether he carried into Weinstein territory on other occasions, but as Jack does rightfully point out, when the rubber met the road with a lot of those investigations, what the woman said to conservative media(or occasionally the Times) seemed to be different with what they were willing to say under oath.

When it comes right down to it, how many of Weinstein’s accusations have any substantiation, either? I have not followed it closely, but it seems to be mostly he said she said.

Broaddrick is easily the most believable of the Clinton accusers and there doesn’t really seem to be a reason for her to make it up. She only recanted her testimony after she was granted immunity by the independent counsel, and apparently wanted nothing to do with the investigation until she was subpoenaed.

I don’t know whether I believe her or not, frankly.

I was mostly just speaking to your point about Monica. Making the argument there really isn't much difference except consent and enjoying it. Which is a pretty big difference TBH.

Broaddrick as a whole is certainly the most concerning story. Also one of the more head scratching in how it all developed. I certainly wouldn't call it the most ironclad of Bill's laundry list. Though not the most suspicious one.
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« Reply #10694 on: November 11, 2017, 03:03:09 AM »
Anyway, accused pedophile Roy Moore only led by 0.6% in a poll today and trailed by a couple points in a three way.
Doesn't count, "write-in" plus "other" is 14%.

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« Reply #10695 on: November 11, 2017, 03:56:12 AM »
Regarding this whole discussion about "identity politics" I think that rather than using terms that became popular decades later we should instead look to political science giants of the 1950's and call it "cleavage politics" in an attempt to offend as many cleavages as possible.

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« Reply #10696 on: November 11, 2017, 03:58:50 AM »
*realizes he should work on wording a grant so that he can tell people his job is currently to compare cleavages*

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« Reply #10697 on: November 11, 2017, 05:01:06 AM »
LIEBERAL MEDIA GENERALLY DEBUNKED:


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« Reply #10698 on: November 11, 2017, 05:04:58 AM »
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Will Richman
8 hours ago
He sounds innocent .. this is a terrible attack by Democrats on an innocent man. Republicans that abandon him will pay the price
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Living Small
4 hours ago
This lie was engineered by DEMS & endorsed by Rinos because they feel he is a threat 2 one of their evil agendas...wonder which one!
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Brad Pittman
9 hours ago
John mc Cain socialist pig. The nerve of you.
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Brad Pittman
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The deep state looks like they're getting closer to lighting off a civil war. F ing stupid. And it's incredible that any democrat socialist can point the finger at anyone involved sexual scandals or corruption. It feels close to the end or new beginning.
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Dynamite guy
8 hours ago
How do you spell fake news again and again and again and again!!!

The timing of these allegations is very interesting......

He has been the public guy for years and years and years why NOW anybody get it or is it just me that I’m so damn smart then  the rest of you???

This almost ruins my veterans celebration this weekend..... Vietnam vet😡😡😡😡😡😡
Hell I Can’t remember who I dated 40 years ago.......

This is a set up......

Wait breaking news ....was the so-called 14-year--year-old a Russian.......
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Jim Jones
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Lord let the truth be known and the wicked revealed. John McCain and Romney noodle are Republican sellouts I trust them like I trust the devil.
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Barbara Farmer
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This is a smear campaign plain and simple. Roy Moore sounds like my Dad who after almost 70 years of marriage, still thinks the stork had some involvement in the arrival of us kids. And yes, he asked my Grandpa if he would give permission to date my Mom.
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Joseph Mellen
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I am 74 and cannot imagine having to defend myself about allegations made about me that happened 40 years ago. The Rinos hate Moore because he is everything they could never be.
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george ash
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This is obviously a hit job, it comes out a few weeks before his senate election. Judge Roy Moore has been a high profile figure in  Alabama for decades and this comes out now? Ted Kennedy murders a girl but the liberals kept re-electing him to the Senate. This is a put up job and I hope he wins the election.

i don't think those are the real "Jim Jones" and "Brad Pitt, man" in the comments, just a hunch i've got, feel free to disagree

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« Reply #10699 on: November 11, 2017, 05:06:04 AM »
 :rofl at "by" "rinos" auto-converted to "Ted Danson" in that second comment

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« Reply #10700 on: November 11, 2017, 05:37:23 AM »
I missed you Benji  :cody

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« Reply #10701 on: November 11, 2017, 06:33:44 AM »
Bore redeemed

:thinking

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« Reply #10702 on: November 11, 2017, 09:56:25 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/11/11/our-culture-is-experiencing-hostile-takeover-must-stop-rejecting-god-if-ever-want-it-to-end.html

It’s the scorching hot take that ties together mass shootings, Senator Menendez, Hillary Clinton selling all our uranium to Putin, NFL players kneeling, Harvey Weinstein, whores and their slut pills, Evolution, and the LAMESTREAM MEDIA you didn’t even know you needed.

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Our cultural crisis is exhibited by egotistic multimillionaires demonstrating on football fields against the police instead of seeking solutions to rampant inner-city violence; coddled young people demanding free birth control and socialized health care; and even the major media ignoring the corruption trial of Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J.

Another example of the crisis is the lack of attention the mainstream media are paying to the Clintons’ collusion to sell Russia 20 percent of U.S. uranium.
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« Reply #10703 on: November 11, 2017, 10:01:20 AM »
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Our cultural crisis is exhibited by egotistic multimillionaires demonstrating on football fields against the police instead of seeking solutions to rampant inner-city violence
why should we listen to a bunch of egotistic sports multimillionaires about how we should run OUR cities? this is AMERICA BUDDY

unless they happen to be the President of the United States :american #MAGA #TCOT

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« Reply #10704 on: November 11, 2017, 10:08:02 AM »
My brain just sort of automatically unfocuses my eyes so I don't even try to read benji's posts anymore. I think it's an evolved survival instinct, tbh.
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« Reply #10705 on: November 11, 2017, 11:54:08 AM »
i mean i'm not seeing the downside for anyone :trumps

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« Reply #10706 on: November 11, 2017, 12:12:44 PM »
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Our cultural crisis is exhibited by egotistic multimillionaires demonstrating on football fields against the police instead of seeking solutions to rampant inner-city violence
why should we listen to a bunch of egotistic sports multimillionaires about how we should run OUR cities? this is AMERICA BUDDY

unless they happen to be the President of the United States :american #MAGA #TCOT

the POTUS is a billionaire, kiddo.

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« Reply #10707 on: November 11, 2017, 03:56:30 PM »
Damn, more shot is going to come out about this mother fucker. He’s toast.

Honestly, if Bill Clinto was in 2017, he would never have gotten away with that shot either. In retrospect, dude had like 8 accusers and took the Roy Moore approach to denying each one, and got caught lying twice and a bunch of fools still believe he is telling the truth on the other 5 or 6.

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« Reply #10708 on: November 11, 2017, 04:20:17 PM »
In retrospect, it's nuts how everything was lumped together as "sex scandals" and his affair with Lewinsky got him in much, much more trouble than his alleged rape of Broaddrick.

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« Reply #10709 on: November 11, 2017, 05:09:30 PM »
It’s really just recently that I look back and see how much has changed since I was younger.

I tried to watch Gremlins a few months with my kid, and decided it was too racist for them like 5 minutes in.

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« Reply #10710 on: November 11, 2017, 05:26:01 PM »
It’s really just recently that I look back and see how much has changed since I was younger.

I tried to watch Gremlins a few months with my kid, and decided it was too racist for them like 5 minutes in.

Yeah it's pretty savage against White America. Father is an allegory of late stage capitalism , the heroes are bothering the suit out of those mischievous savages which are identified as foreigners Dick Miller fought in one of US imperialist war, and Disney films are the happy face bait of genocide by fire.

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« Reply #10711 on: November 11, 2017, 06:06:00 PM »
holy crap... i just realized the other guy in the alabama race is doug jones

DOUGIE JONES!
Yeah, its weird to think how villian from Robocop would actually be significantly less evil than not only Moore, but many of thd prominent members of the GOP today.

I mean, shit, some of those policies getting pushed through congress would have had a greater bodycount than a lot of Bond villians master plans.

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« Reply #10712 on: November 11, 2017, 07:03:21 PM »
It’s really just recently that I look back and see how much has changed since I was younger.

I tried to watch Gremlins a few months with my kid, and decided it was too racist for them like 5 minutes in.

Ye :badassah it's pretty savage against White America. Father is an allegory of late stage capitalism , the heroes are bothering the suit out of those mischievous savages which are identified as foreigners Dick Miller fought in one of US imperialist war, and Disney films are the happy face bait of genocide by fire.

#gizmoisanuncletom

I couldn’t get past the mystical Asian Man at the beginning. It’s to the point where I’m fine with that shot for me, because I get what it is and it’s a product of my time, but I don’t need my 6 year old running to school talking about making “flied lice” or some shit.

Of course, she thinks the Vietnamese family across the street speaks Spanish so,

Exit: what’s the racism in home alone 2? (It’s a garbage movie anyway, first one is far superior.)

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« Reply #10713 on: November 11, 2017, 09:05:14 PM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/929511061954297857

:trumps

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« Reply #10715 on: November 12, 2017, 02:24:52 AM »
Trump pivoting to the ResetEra crowd ?
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« Reply #10716 on: November 12, 2017, 04:28:38 AM »
Is trump really one to call someone fat?

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« Reply #10717 on: November 12, 2017, 05:13:06 AM »
Is trump really one to call someone fat?
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Donald Trump has "extraordinary" stamina and physical strength and would be the healthiest person ever elected president, his doctor said in a statement released Monday.

Dr. Harold Bornstein, who has been Trump's personal physician since 1980, said that "over the past 39 years, I am pleased to report that Mr. Trump has had no significant medical problems."
 
The physician said that Trump has lost 15 pounds in the past year, has never had cancer or hip, knee or shoulder replacements and "has no history of ever using alcohol or tobacco products."
 
"If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency," Bornstein said in the statement released by Trump's campaign.

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« Reply #10718 on: November 12, 2017, 05:42:11 AM »
Kim should offer Trump a share in Ryugyong hotel.
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« Reply #10719 on: November 12, 2017, 05:47:32 AM »
Bill wouldn't make it out of the primary today, unless his only opponent was Bernie or some shit.
There's an argument to be made that Bill might not have made it out of any other primary.

1992 became a perfect storm for both the primary and general.

Tom Harkin couldn't win a non-caucus. Bob Kerrey could only crack 15% in a single state. Both bolted before Super Tuesday. Paul Tsongas ran on balancing the budget, cutting the out of control debt, capital gains and corporate taxes while raising middle class taxes, and had basically no campaign money despite having been in the race since April of 1991 and was out a couple weeks later. That left Jerry Brown as his only competition with his flat tax, 1-800 number, term limits, abolishing the Department of Education, and maybe the only thing helping him against Clinton, opposing NAFTA. And Brown had entered late and refused to accept any donations over $100.

Four years earlier Gary Hart, the frontrunner since 1984, had to bail out on an accusation, before he got back in the race and then bailed out again when the photos came out. Biden dropped out over the plagiarism in a single speech the day of the first debate.

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« Reply #10720 on: November 12, 2017, 06:38:00 AM »
holy crap... i just realized the other guy in the alabama race is doug jones

DOUGIE JONES!


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« Reply #10721 on: November 12, 2017, 09:08:29 AM »

not to pick on andy but am i the only one seeing these blank posts all over? and i mean from people i don't expect to screw up tags

also the img width tag isn't working for me either, at least in chrome

why am i asking this in this thread? because i suspect seth rich's killer is behind this to stop us from getting to the bottom of the investigation? possibly it seems like something she'd do

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« Reply #10722 on: November 12, 2017, 10:29:28 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/11/us/brett-talley-judge-senate.html

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A 36-year-old lawyer who has never tried a case and who was unanimously deemed “not qualified” by the American Bar Association has been approved for a lifetime federal district judgeship by the Senate Judiciary Committee.
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Mr. Talley, who graduated from Harvard Law School in 2007 and is a deputy assistant attorney general at the Justice Department
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If confirmed, he would serve as a trial judge in his home state of Alabama.
Jeez, if only my timing had been different. Thanks Obama.

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Mr. Talley’s lack of experience drew searing questions from Democratic members of the committee. Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the minority whip, asked Mr. Talley in a written questionnaire, “Do you think it is advisable to put people with literally no trial experience on the federal district court bench?”

Mr. Talley demurred. “It would be inappropriate for me as a nominee to comment on the advisability of any nomination,” he wrote.
And they said he's not qualified, that's Chief Justice material!

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Ms. Feinstein also pointed to Mr. Talley’s prolific social media presence before his nomination. He once referred to Hillary Clinton as “Hillary Rotten Clinton” on his public Twitter account, which is now private.
#lockherup #justiceforseth #justiceforharvey

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« Reply #10723 on: November 12, 2017, 11:38:04 AM »
Fuck anyone that votes for this incompetent.

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« Reply #10724 on: November 12, 2017, 11:47:53 AM »
They voted on party lines to send him to the full Senate:
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fell along party lines; Republican members outnumber Democrats on the committee 11 to nine. Mr. Talley will now face a full vote in the Senate.

This may be the last judicial candidate to have never sat as a judge before or apparently even tried a case, they did alright with the full Senate:
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In 2010, Jeff Sessions, then a senator from Alabama, asked Nancy Freudenthal, who had been nominated to Wyoming District Court by President Barack Obama, about her having never tried a case before a jury. Ms. Freudenthal was eventually approved by the Senate, 96 to 1.
But then they were also the Governor of Wyoming's wife, so I don't know how that transfers in Senate custom.

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« Reply #10725 on: November 12, 2017, 01:58:44 PM »
At least this means conservatives will stop accusing every minority appointee of being an unqualified affirmative-action hire, right?

...right?

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« Reply #10727 on: November 12, 2017, 03:00:25 PM »
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Is Noam Chomsky on the payroll of the Kremlin
Dick Nixon told me yeah.

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« Reply #10728 on: November 12, 2017, 04:23:57 PM »
This whole Russia thing just brings out the dumbest takes.

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« Reply #10729 on: November 12, 2017, 04:52:29 PM »
I don't think you want Russia's opinion or help on Ukraine.

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Bring Obama Back Already #boba
« Reply #10731 on: November 12, 2017, 06:32:18 PM »
That Greenwald tweet is satirising the expected lib establishment fan responses though right?
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« Reply #10732 on: November 12, 2017, 06:35:05 PM »
Yes it is.

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« Reply #10733 on: November 12, 2017, 07:40:53 PM »
I lost basically infinite respect of Glenn Greenwald over the last 10 years.

It’s like his schtick is that America is always wrong and is never right. When America is fucking up a lot, he seems like he’s speaking truth, but the reality is he’s a broken clock that is sometimes right. Apparently Noam Chomsky is in the same boat now.

I get that having decent relationship with Russia is not necessarily a terrible idea, in the long term, but these fools ah e interpreted that as letting Putin have his way with your butthole. ....Which actually makes sense for Glenn.

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« Reply #10734 on: November 12, 2017, 08:25:30 PM »
Chomsky being deeply critical of US foreign policy isn't new.

But the idea that Dems are so focused on Russia that they forgot to oppose the rest of Trump's agenda is dumb and wrong.

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« Reply #10735 on: November 12, 2017, 08:41:28 PM »
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/929703988219564032

Why do some of you keep downplaying this while it keeps escalating?

Like seriously...are you gonna start shilling for Moore now too  :doge

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« Reply #10736 on: November 12, 2017, 08:57:16 PM »
I'll give a shit when Jared's in prison or the pee tape gets released

Not a second earlier

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« Reply #10738 on: November 12, 2017, 09:31:57 PM »
So now some of the social media right are destroying their Keurigs because the company dropped ads from Hannity.

Over his support of Roy Moore.

"We're destroying our property because you stopped advertising on a show where the host selectively dismisses pedophilia."
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« Reply #10739 on: November 12, 2017, 09:46:38 PM »
Re: Noam.

I too am critical of us foreign policy. We do a lot of shitty things. This doesn’t mean I think it’s a good thing to lose give up our sovereignty to Russia, or to let them freely meddle in our elections, or freely let our Presidential candidates break laws.

It’s nuts. I used to respect Noam chomsky, but he can eat a fat dick.