US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[recursivelyenumerable]

https://twitter.com/Wu_Tang_Finance/status/989185304987881472
https://twitter.com/msexcel/status/989187897864675334

[seagrams hotsauce]

Her first week sales literally doubled after that lol. Act like that had no impact on her career. She doesn't

[seagrams hotsauce]

Look, I don't wanna rile you Taystans up with hard #facts, so I'm not gonna push this, but I'll say this. I'm a fan of the lady - hell, she's in my avatar - but acting like she didn't coast whole "i'm a victim" thing to the point where she made her whole album playing on how people think it's corny is delusional, and you can credit Ye for being the spark that lead to the mighty flame.

[kingv]

And let's be real, the real concern we should have about this is wether or not Kanye can actually carry four albums on his back and get them all out in time. I don't really care about the Cudi, Teyana or Pusha albums cuz they're all kinda washed or boring, so I hope he keeps the real heat for his own album. TLOP was interesting but kind of a mess and structurally probably his weakest, so hopefully this one is a little more cohesive

I think the Push album will be better than Ye’s, calling it now. Man, I wish Malice didn’t turn into a Christian rapper though. That album was so lame. I love those first two Clipse albums.

Kanye is a talented dude, but he really needs some mental health treatment. But then again, he might lose whatever musical edge he has with treatment.

[seagrams hotsauce]

And let's be real, the real concern we should have about this is wether or not Kanye can actually carry four albums on his back and get them all out in time. I don't really care about the Cudi, Teyana or Pusha albums cuz they're all kinda washed or boring, so I hope he keeps the real heat for his own album. TLOP was interesting but kind of a mess and structurally probably his weakest, so hopefully this one is a little more cohesive

I think the Push album will be better than Ye’s, calling it now. Man, I wish Malice didn’t turn into a Christian rapper though. That album was so lame. I love those first two Clipse albums.

Kanye is a talented dude, but he really needs some mental health treatment. But then again, he might lose whatever musical edge he has with treatment.

I kinda waffle on Pusha, his output post Clipse has been so stagnant material wise. I think his actual projects are kinda middling for the most part, but stuff like Numbers On The Board keeps me from giving up hope. Ye's production has been really solid for years though so at the very least that's nothing to worry about.

Exo's right though. I'm a huge Ye fan but I think handwaving this away as 'mental illness' is off point. I'm not going to act like this doesn't sting on a different level given my political views, but it's not off brand for the exact kind of inarticulate provocation Kanye has executed since the beginning of his career.

[curly]

fwiw I know a schizophrenic dude who has like the exact same personality as kanye

[Optimus]

Again, the best part of this whole thing is it's the most perfect example of how quickly the alt-right will abandon their "principles" the second one of the 'hollywood elite' that they've spent years shitting on gives them any attention. Kanye West is a black dude who was so famous that he drunkenly gave Taylor Swift her whole career, who randomly showed up to Occupy Wall Street, and who's first single of his second to last album was literally about how privatized prison is modern slavery. But he tweets something about the thought police or whatever once, and he's this genius free thinker who they've always loved. It's exactly as pathetic as one would expect

Her rich dad gave Taylor Swift her whole career, not Kanye.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/638181746605981696

my man bringing it all back around

[benjipwns]

Her first week sales literally doubled after that lol. Act like that had no impact on her career. She doesn't

are you really suggesting that her sales increased after winning a bunch of awards at an award show?

[naff]

he's a p classic drumpf fan

stans the confederate flag



gets cucked by mexicans

[naff]

Her first week sales literally doubled after that lol. Act like that had no impact on her career. She doesn't

are you really suggesting that her sales increased after winning a bunch of awards at an award show?

Obviously the controversy would've resulted in more sales and awareness of her, but some people give that event way too much credit. It had a tangible effect, the degree of which is intangible and imo well overblown.

[hungrynoob]

Jan 22 2018 21:47:32
Q
!UW.yye1fxo
130638
What would happen if texts originating from a FBI agent to several [internals] discussed the assassination (possibility) of the POTUS or member of his family?
What if the texts suggest foreign allies were involved?
Forget the Russia set up [1 of 22].
This is only the beginning.

See you all tomorrow.

See you all tomorrow.

[thisismyusername]

Again, the best part of this whole thing is it's the most perfect example of how quickly the alt-right will abandon their "principles" the second one of the 'hollywood elite' that they've spent years shitting on gives them any attention. Kanye West is a black dude who was so famous that he drunkenly gave Taylor Swift her whole career, who randomly showed up to Occupy Wall Street, and who's first single of his second to last album was literally about how privatized prison is modern slavery. But he tweets something about the thought police or whatever once, and he's this genius free thinker who they've always loved. It's exactly as pathetic as one would expect

 

Inorite? Like her being successful country singer is somehow not a career.

[kingv]

I’m going to laugh if the texts contain some obviously non-serious shit like

“Chriist he’s such an idiot, I wish someone would just assassinate him”
“Yeah, like cant Putin see he made a huge mistake?”

And hungrynoob will come in here taking it like he’s uncovered the plot to assassinste JFK.

[benjipwns]

i like how the taylor/kayne argument reads like the most legitimately heated one we've had in here for years

[benjipwns]

COMPLICATED
I’m Not Done With Kanye—but It’s Getting Hard to Justify This
I’m a fan from day one, and I know the circus. So it was tough for me to get mad at Yeezy. Until now.

[benjipwns]

meanwhile, on the other crazy train

MSNBC weekend host Joy Reid’s lawyer claimed Wednesday evening that the FBI has opened a probe into her claim that her old blog was hacked to make her appear homophobic. “We have received confirmation the FBI has opened an investigation into potential criminal activities surrounding several online accounts, including personal email and blog accounts, belonging to Joy-Ann Reid,” her lawyer, John H. Reichman, said in a statement to The Daily Beast. “Our own investigation and monitoring of the situation will continue in parallel, and we are cooperating with law enforcement as their investigation proceeds.”

Media Matters for America will not launch any advertiser boycott against Joy Reid. The non-profit watchdog group’s president Angelo Carusone told TheWrap on Wednesday his group will not target the MSNBC host after mounting pressure from those who have called out an old blog post of hers as being bigoted toward the LGBT community.

In a public Twitter conversation on Wednesday, Carusone answered a question from TheWrap, saying that Reid’s past post will not trigger a Twitter boycott from his group. He called the effort to draw attention to Media Matters on the topic of Reid “bulls–t” and “right wing chicanery.”

“I hope people can separate, especially media figures, can separate out difference,” said Carusone. “There’s no corrective action they seek here. Just revenge.”

Joy Ann Reid’s “cyber security expert” Jonathan Nichols, who the MSNBC host hired to prove that she did not write the supposedly “fabricated” anti-gay posts published on her old blog, once bragged about knowing prominent white supremacist Andrew “weev” Auernheimer.

...

After NBC released a statement regarding his work for Reid, however, Nichols deleted all of his account’s old posts, went on a tweetstorm declaring a “lock down” of his account, and then placed it on protected mode so non-followers could not see his tweets.

Using the Internet archiving services Archive.is and the Wayback Machine, Mediaite discovered a series of Nichols’ old tweets in which be brags about personally knowing the infamous neo-Nazi troll Andrew Auernheimer, who is more commonly known by his hacker name weev.

“Like are most of you aware that I NOT ONLY know Andrew (stromfront admin), but I was the principal element livetweeting his release from [prison],” tweeted Nichols on December 9, 2017. “If you try REALLY HARD you’ll see that I’m connected to the leadership of [Stormfront]. If you try just a bit harder you’ll figure it out.”

It is worth noting that weev is not an administrator for Stormfront, but is instead the webmaster for The Daily Stormer — the biggest Nazi site in America. In his tweets, Nichols appears to have confused the two racist sites.

“I’m just gunna tell you, because they are that bad this, I was at Weev’s coming home party,” Nichols added — a reference to weev’s release from prison in 2014.

five months ago, Reid’s security expert bragged about personally knowing the hacker who helps run The Daily Stormer and thinks “Whites [should] be supreme in” America.

Nichols, who calls himself “an Information Operations soldier” on his LinkedIn page, also claims his “background is in military propaganda.” In a since-deleted tweet, he even touted his ties to the 2011 US attack on Libya.

“Nah, I’m a senior leader,I’m a senior PSYOPer. I find your civilian disruption to be cute. By way of example, I could have influenced the propaganda mission of Libya. I chose not to,” tweeted Nichols

Nichols tweeted during the 2016 election that “[Hillary] Clinton might well be arrested”

[Great Rumbler]

Jan 22 2018 21:47:32
Q
!UW.yye1fxo
130638
What would happen if texts originating from a FBI agent to several [internals] discussed the assassination (possibility) of the POTUS or member of his family?
What if the texts suggest foreign allies were involved?
Forget the Russia set up [1 of 22].
This is only the beginning.

(Image removed from quote.)

See you all tomorrow.

See you all tomorrow.

(Image removed from quote.)

 

[D3RANG3D]

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/VanessaOblinger/status/988913297528377344


 

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/pourmecoffee/status/989282865333657602

[kingv]

meanwhile, on the other crazy train

MSNBC weekend host Joy Reid’s lawyer claimed Wednesday evening that the FBI has opened a probe into her claim that her old blog was hacked to make her appear homophobic. “We have received confirmation the FBI has opened an investigation into potential criminal activities surrounding several online accounts, including personal email and blog accounts, belonging to Joy-Ann Reid,” her lawyer, John H. Reichman, said in a statement to The Daily Beast. “Our own investigation and monitoring of the situation will continue in parallel, and we are cooperating with law enforcement as their investigation proceeds.”

Media Matters for America will not launch any advertiser boycott against Joy Reid. The non-profit watchdog group’s president Angelo Carusone told TheWrap on Wednesday his group will not target the MSNBC host after mounting pressure from those who have called out an old blog post of hers as being bigoted toward the LGBT community.

In a public Twitter conversation on Wednesday, Carusone answered a question from TheWrap, saying that Reid’s past post will not trigger a Twitter boycott from his group. He called the effort to draw attention to Media Matters on the topic of Reid “bulls–t” and “right wing chicanery.”

“I hope people can separate, especially media figures, can separate out difference,” said Carusone. “There’s no corrective action they seek here. Just revenge.”

Joy Ann Reid’s “cyber security expert” Jonathan Nichols, who the MSNBC host hired to prove that she did not write the supposedly “fabricated” anti-gay posts published on her old blog, once bragged about knowing prominent white supremacist Andrew “weev” Auernheimer.

...

After NBC released a statement regarding his work for Reid, however, Nichols deleted all of his account’s old posts, went on a tweetstorm declaring a “lock down” of his account, and then placed it on protected mode so non-followers could not see his tweets.

Using the Internet archiving services Archive.is and the Wayback Machine, Mediaite discovered a series of Nichols’ old tweets in which be brags about personally knowing the infamous neo-Nazi troll Andrew Auernheimer, who is more commonly known by his hacker name weev.

“Like are most of you aware that I NOT ONLY know Andrew (stromfront admin), but I was the principal element livetweeting his release from [prison],” tweeted Nichols on December 9, 2017. “If you try REALLY HARD you’ll see that I’m connected to the leadership of [Stormfront]. If you try just a bit harder you’ll figure it out.”

It is worth noting that weev is not an administrator for Stormfront, but is instead the webmaster for The Daily Stormer — the biggest Nazi site in America. In his tweets, Nichols appears to have confused the two racist sites.

“I’m just gunna tell you, because they are that bad this, I was at Weev’s coming home party,” Nichols added — a reference to weev’s release from prison in 2014.

five months ago, Reid’s security expert bragged about personally knowing the hacker who helps run The Daily Stormer and thinks “Whites [should] be supreme in” America.

Nichols, who calls himself “an Information Operations soldier” on his LinkedIn page, also claims his “background is in military propaganda.” In a since-deleted tweet, he even touted his ties to the 2011 US attack on Libya.

“Nah, I’m a senior leader,I’m a senior PSYOPer. I find your civilian disruption to be cute. By way of example, I could have influenced the propaganda mission of Libya. I chose not to,” tweeted Nichols

Nichols tweeted during the 2016 election that “[Hillary] Clinton might well be arrested”

ok, now Joy Ann reid really can't drag anybody for being racist anymore.

[Kurt Russell]

Kendrick is a hotep?

He's very #NewBlack and mentions being an israelite here and there.

I mean Wu-Tang were five-percenters, so it ain't unheard of in rap.

What's a five-percenter?

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What's a hotep?

[close]

[benjipwns]

those who know the truth of the universe as divined by a blessed schizophrenic

[Kurt Russell]

Again, the best part of this whole thing is it's the most perfect example of how quickly the alt-right will abandon their "principles" the second one of the 'hollywood elite' that they've spent years shitting on gives them any attention. Kanye West is a black dude who was so famous that he drunkenly gave Taylor Swift her whole career, who randomly showed up to Occupy Wall Street, and who's first single of his second to last album was literally about how privatized prison is modern slavery. But he tweets something about the thought police or whatever once, and he's this genius free thinker who they've always loved. It's exactly as pathetic as one would expect

...or maybe, you can think he's both right and wrong on many complex issues that span both sides of the political spectrum.

This is not like supporting a sports team.

[Mandark]

...or maybe, you can think he's both right and wrong on many complex issues that span both sides of the political spectrum.

This is not like supporting a sports team.

*jerking off motion*

[curly]

how does thebore not have a :jerkoff or :selfsuck smiley

[benjipwns]

 

[kingv]

Kendrick is a hotep?

He's very #NewBlack and mentions being an israelite here and there.

I mean Wu-Tang were five-percenters, so it ain't unheard of in rap.

What's a five-percenter?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

What's a hotep?

[close]

The 5% of the population that is the enlightened original asiatic black man tasked with teaching the mathematics to the 85% of the dumb, dead, and blind that the Asiatic Black Man is God and the white man is the devil, while the other 10% tries to hide the truth.

You need to study 120 and hit us back at the God hour.

Edit: it’s kind of a offshoot of the Nation of Islam, but way more obscure. It’s sort of a prison religion, but most people that know about it know about it because the Wu-Tang Clan used a lot of references to it on way Tang Forever... it’s not clear to me how serious they are about it, because that shot seemed to go away over time after Wu Tang Forever.

Edit saw spoiler. Hoteps are basically black people (mostly men) who are very pro-black but also anti feminist and anti gay. So like people say Kendrick Lamar is a Hotep because he says he’s tired of fake women and likes natural hair and stretch marks. So he’s promoting Afro-centric natural beauty standards but at the expense of women with weaves and plastic surgery.

[kingv]

I thought hoteps were basically the black version of ancient astronaut theory proponents

Super Afrocentric cryptohistory/conspiracy stuff, often relating to ancient Egypt, hence the invocation of an Egyptian word

I believe they are that too. But there is a website called Hotep nation for and about hoteps that is really weird about being “ok” with white Nationalism because they seem themselves as bother representing the “alpha male” perspective of their race.

They also refer to non-hoteps as “nogs”.

[benjipwns]

we need a special counsel

[benjipwns]

r.i.p. in peaces Taylor Swift's career: https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/kanye-west-doesnt-care-about-black-people-1825550492

Intent doesn’t matter as much as action and effect. And Kanye’s recent actions have shown, in a clear and unambiguous fashion, that he doesn’t care about black people. Black people who have supported him and amplified him and even shielded him from and defended him against the type of people he’s aligning himself with. Black people who watched him grow from the person with the name we didn’t quite know how to pronounce who kept getting production credits on Jay-Z and Cam’Ron tracks to arguably the most important person in hip-hop. Black people who made him.

Black people like Panama, who, again, ended a relationship with his own mother because of what her support of the man whom Kanye just called one of his “favorite people” represents.

When this—whatever the fuck it is that he’s doing—backfires on Kanye (and it will), some black folks will still be there to lift him up. Or perhaps to help cushion his fall. Not because they are gullible or weak, but because they’re aware of the pathology of white supremacy, and they possess an empathy for someone who allows himself to be so infected by it. And also because he meant that much to us before he turned.

I guess that’s the irony here. He will never be as loved by them as he was by so many of us.

And yes, “was” was intentional. I didn’t misspeak this time.

we need a special counsel

[TakingBackSunday]

why are we not talking about our godking president going on fox and friends this morning and basically having a 30 minute dementia rant

[kingv]

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we need a special counsel

I’m no enameled by you, racist piece of shit.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

why are we not talking about our godking president going on fox and friends this morning and basically having a 30 minute dementia rant

https://twitter.com/axios/status/989480105109020672

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[close]

[Joe Molotov]

why are we not talking about our godking president going on fox and friends this morning and basically having a 30 minute dementia rant

We just call that Thursday, sweetie.

[etiolate]

 

[Boredfrom]

Oh my god, Etiolate is going to become a Kanye stan...

 

[Nola]

So meanwhile, in the "real" America, the NRA is apparently encouraging all gun owners to blow up their YETI coolers because they are no longer giving them an NRA discount(even though they kinda sort of are, just under a different program).




And a random tweet for good measure.
https://twitter.com/dylanmsmitty/status/989014958401818624

[curly]

https://theintercept.com/2018/04/26/steny-hoyer-audio-levi-tillemann/

there's a war going on inside the democratic party

[kingv]

Blow up you $300 coolers, my dudes.

[agrajag]

remember when people were flushing red wine down their toilets when france didn't want to wage war on iraq?

[agrajag]

now that I think of it, if there was another 9/11 in the present day, trump's base would probably gloat about it. "that's what those NY college intellectual yuppie fekkits get"

[Nola]

remember when people were flushing red wine down their toilets when france didn't want to wage war on iraq?

[agrajag]

remember when people were flushing red wine down their toilets when france didn't want to wage war on iraq?

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that young man's name?



Donald J. Trump

[studyguy]

https://twitter.com/sr_simone/status/989599738961039362
Initial story was that he made some sermon that criticized GOP, now it seems that more reports mentioning he invited a Muslim to a prayer circle and evangelicals freaked the fuck out.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/385035-house-chaplain-forced-out-by-ryan

[studyguy]

https://twitter.com/Bruno_J_Navarro/status/989608494700683264

Typically people get rid of burners, but ok. 

[Nintex]

 

2 minutes in and Trump threatens Iran. 

40 topics in 5 minutes.

T R U M P  I S  B A C K

The best part is the splitscreen live stream with Trump's face and ranting on one side and the White House on the other. 

[Nola]

I'm mostly amused by the fact that once again, like he did with Lester Holt, Trump basically walked himself and those around him into greater legal jeopardy by undercutting his own PR/defense team and admitted to knowledge of the Stormy Daniels payment and arguing, unprovoked, that Cohen was barely, if at all, representing him in any legal capacity. Completely undercutting the argument Cohen is trying to make in court to keep as much evidence as possible out of prosecutor's hands.

[agrajag]

I'm mostly amused by the fact that once again, like he did with Lester Holt, Trump basically walked himself and those around him into greater legal jeopardy by undercutting his own PR/defense team and admitted to knowledge of the Stormy Daniels payment and arguing, unprovoked, that Cohen was barely, if at all, representing him in any legal capacity. Completely undercutting the argument Cohen is trying to make in court to keep as much evidence as possible out of prosecutor's hands.

don't be mad that he's playing 4th dimensional timecube chess while you play your zero dimensional checkers brah

[Nintex]

I'm mostly amused by the fact that once again, like he did with Lester Holt, Trump basically walked himself and those around him into greater legal jeopardy by undercutting his own PR/defense team and admitted to knowledge of the Stormy Daniels payment and arguing, unprovoked, that Cohen was barely, if at all, representing him in any legal capacity. Completely undercutting the argument Cohen is trying to make in court to keep as much evidence as possible out of prosecutor's hands.

What was amazing is that Trump told some mumbo jumbo about Cohen's Business he knew nothing about and wasn't involved in, while the guys' main business was being Trump's lawyer.

Trump apparently had a bunch of those crooks fly around the planet to make 'deals'. With half assed dictators or mob bosses to build a hotel/casino or whatever.
The extend of his involvement was usually a PR stunt with his daughter and slapping his name on a building through a licensing deal that Cohen, Slater, Kushner or any of the other 'businessmen' brought to his desk.
He didn't care about the details so he probably didn't know what was in most of those deals he signed anyway.

That's probably also why he is so worried about all the legal cases. Because he knows he doesn't know what he signed and what he could be held responsible for.

[curly]

https://twitter.com/Matt_Fox10/status/989573183333318656?s=19

[Nola]

What was amazing is that Trump told some mumbo jumbo about Cohen's Business he knew nothing about and wasn't involved in, while the guys' main business was being Trump's lawyer.

Trump apparently had a bunch of those crooks fly around the planet to make 'deals'. With half assed dictators or mob bosses to build a hotel/casino or whatever.
The extend of his involvement was usually a PR stunt with his daughter and slapping his name on a building through a licensing deal that Cohen, Slater, Kushner or any of the other 'businessmen' brought to his desk.
He didn't care about the details so he probably didn't know what was in most of those deals he signed anyway.

That's probably also why he is so worried about all the legal cases. Because he knows he doesn't know what he signed and what he could be held responsible for.

I think as Trump rightly let slip, his main business was Trump's business. By all accounts he did very little actual legal counseling for Trump. But it certainly aides Cohen and by extension Trump to sell to the judge and the soon to be appointed "master" that will be combing over the documents the feds captured to argue that he did.

I think your narrative has some likely truth to it in that he probably doesn't know the full extent of his exposure, but the picture we also get from almost every deal Trump has made, especially as he went international after his financial troubles, is that they are much more involved than just slapping some signatures on a licensing deal a proxy put together and doing PR stunts. Like Ivanka and Donald basically acting like contractors at times down to picking out furnishings and paint schemes, or Donald notoriously demanding that contractors go ahead and break certain laws and dare people to come after him. Like they did in New York, Chicago, Panama, or Mumbai.

He wouldn't be crying about the FCPA for the last decade if he didn't know how much of a risk it is for him and to these dealmakers he pays commission to like Kalpesh Mehta and likely Cohen. Or be flying out to places like Hong Kong to negotiate financing personally.

I think the idea that Trump didn't know what he was doing or incentivizing, or was completely ignorant of the criminality underlying these projects requires a major stretch of the imagination. I'd concede that for instance he probably doesn't know every single palm greased or shady advance sale to a Russian mafia boss or drug lord that Nogueira secured for Ivanka and Donald in Panama so they could go make the case to financiers that their property would turn a profit, but it's a stretch to think he didn't have some base knowledge or encourage the broad strokes of what went down.....Though in terms of the FCPA, that probably wouldn't even matter, since ignorance is not really an excuse, by design.

[Nola]

Which, on the topic of undercutting Cohen's argument to try and shield potentially incriminating documents from the prosecution, it looks like the rant happened early enough for lawyers to have already pounced on it:



Productive morning for Trump!

In 30 minutes he helped further buffer the case of obstruction by once again threatening to meddle with the Justice Department "because of this witch hunt," and gave prosecutors ammunition to offer the judge and Barbara Jones(the appointed master) justification to minimize the amount of materiel that might be covered by privilege.

[Nintex]

Time to polish up those Nobel peace prizes. NK and SK just announced an end to war and hostilities.

They both vow to strive for complete denuclearization.

The madman did it.

[Mandark]

NK and SK just announced an end to war and hostilities.

No they didn't.

[kingv]

Time to polish up those Nobel peace prizes. NK and SK just announced an end to war and hostilities.

They both vow to strive for complete denuclearization.

The madman did it.

This is very similar to the agreement to seek to end hostilities that NK and SK made in Like 1997.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/989932797057032192

wat

[studyguy]

https://twitter.com/ericbrownzzz/status/989895757619658752

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/989932797057032192

wat

Shitty conservative journalism is shitty. Discussing an already obtained dossier =/= leaking details or classified information in behind closed doors meetings about it.

He may have been a CNN source of the meeting, or someone CNN contacted to verify the accuracy of the story from other sources, but the author presents timeline speculation as smoking gun evidence, which it is not, nor is it corroborated by anything he presents or within the House document release. A document that is already fairly laughable in its credibility.