US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Great Rumbler]

Don Blankenship getting wrecked in West Virginia, so that's good.

While I would love to see him win the nomination only to get torched in the general, having him get blasted in the primary is pretty nice, too.

[Assimilate]

Not true


I also annoy the shit out of you guys. 

meh I'm one of the few people that doesn't mind you. We have worse

Yeah, you're one of them.

[Nola]

Don Blankenship getting wrecked in West Virginia, so that's good.

While I would love to see him win the nomination only to get torched in the general, having him get blasted in the primary is pretty nice, too.

Yeah, I'm bittersweet on it.

[etiolate]

Am I the one to have to make the Donate to The Cohen Foundation joke?

[kingv]

Money?? In my politics??

Reads like Cohen is a swamp. Not collusion. Just same old same old.

If I’m a foreign government giving you half a million dollars to illegally pay women you slept with to keep them out of the news in the run up to an election, and that’s not collusion, then nothing is.

[Nola]

Go ahead, you being funny would be a nice break from the mental vomit people usually expect.

[Mandark]

Should probably be skeptical that the Russian money is directly tied to Stormy Daniels.

Still, imagine being Cohen and giving the green light to those payments in 2017 when you had to expect the heat to be on. The mix of stupidity and chutzpah is pretty impressive. The guy was never sweating being caught.

[Nola]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pskgpwr15r48tx5/Executive%20Summary.pdf?dl=0

Also included in these suspicious financial transactions are four payments in late 2017 and early 2018 totaling $399,920 made by global pharmaceutical giant Novartis directly to Essential in four separate transactions of $99,980 each (just  below $100,000). Following  these  payments, reports surfaced that Mr. Trump took a dinner meeting with the incoming CEO of Novartis before Mr. Trump’s speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland in late January 2018.

Huh.

It's almost like this narcissist without any record of public service in his life, that has ranted for decades about how he sees the world through a zero sum transactional prism, that just got done openly paying back his largest donor by giving him his religious fever dream of moving the Israeli embassy at the expense of Middle East stability, may have done the shocking thing no one could of seen coming and used his political position to leverage a transactional self-enriching scheme through his lawyer that cut his teeth after graduating from the worst law school in the country by being a go between figure in a money laundering and insurance racket tied to oligarchs and the Russian mob.

[agrajag]

Eva Naughty doing god's work tbh

[kingv]

Should probably be skeptical that the Russian money is directly tied to Stormy Daniels.

Still, imagine being Cohen and giving the green light to those payments in 2017 when you had to expect the heat to be on. The mix of stupidity and chutzpah is pretty impressive. The guy was never sweating being caught.

Honestly, whenever anyone has made assumptions about Trump that were the worst possible assumptions based on the public circumstances, they’ve pretty much always been confirmed.

[kingv]

There’s probably an email that says “tell stormy be best, comrade.”

[thehunter116]

Should probably be skeptical that the Russian money is directly tied to Stormy Daniels.

Still, imagine being Cohen and giving the green light to those payments in 2017 when you had to expect the heat to be on. The mix of stupidity and chutzpah is pretty impressive. The guy was never sweating being caught.

It's kinda irreverent whether Russia actually did pay them for that reason.

That they happened at all is bad news bears.

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/AJentleson/status/993972164436070405

I don't necessarily buy this theory, but I very much appreciate the tweet.

[Great Rumbler]

It is certainly possible that Trump owns a lot of property that is highly leveraged and relatively little liquid assets.

[Mandark]

It is certainly possible that Trump owns a lot of property that is highly leveraged and relatively little liquid assets.

There was a story in the WaPo about how he's been using cash purchases for real estate rather than debt financing, which is unusual and raises some questions.

[Mandark]

Most of the infrastructure is part of the development. In fact that's the whole point of the deal, to roll back breakout time from 3 months to over a year.

For what it's worth, the arms control people I was reading back when this was negotiated all thought that "breakout" was a poor way of thinking about the deal that had accidentally caught on to be the primary/only way that reporters explained it.

Short version is that Iran would be much, much more likely to try to start a weapons program in secret and only reveal it when they had a couple bombs than to kick out inspectors and use those facilities. So that potential decision relies much more on political considerations and the odds of being caught than a few months difference in development time. Hence those experts seeing the really intrusive verification provisions as a coup for the US.

[Mandark]

Check again.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The "1/1" is a hint that it's spoofing the style of Seth Abramson/Eric Garland style bombastic threads.

[close]

[Maiden Voyage]

I see Cocaine Mitch's China people kept his nomination safe. That's a shame.

[Trent Dole]

DITCH
COCAINE
MITCH

[kingv]

It is certainly possible that Trump owns a lot of property that is highly leveraged and relatively little liquid assets.

There was a story in the WaPo about how he's been using cash purchases for real estate rather than debt financing, which is unusual and raises some questions.

The whole idea of being able to bribe him for like $200K is unusual if he’s a billionaire. If I was a billionaire, what the fuck do I care about $200K, really? That would be like being able to bribe me today for $500. I’m definitely not committing crimes at work for you for $500.

That said the shit certainly looks like a bribe.

But if he owns these places outright and bought them with cash, he should be able to borrow against them. Actually, using his own properties as collateral would be how you get the normal banks to lend to you again.

Something about the whole situation doesn’t make sense, and the idea that those properties he owns aren’t “his” properties because they are being used to launder money makes some sense.

[warcock]

Shout out  to nintex

[Kurt Russell]

  HOLY FUCKING SHIT 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/994182263960162304

A little history - when Candace originally announced her creepy snitch on a friend reputation tracker website, under the guise of anti-bullying, Zoe Quinn immediately went on the attack, as it threatened the anti-bullying business model she was attempting to set up. As a result, in a weird enemy of my enemy type deal, Candace got in with the GG crowd and a year later started red-pilling the shit out of anything that moves.

Cut to today, and Candace has Kanye and Trump in her pocket. Gamergate effectively catapulted a female POC to a whitehouse meeting, whilst the antis managed to collectively crap up doublefine, Mirrors Edge 2, finally tip Phil Fish over the edge and put forward Brianna Wu as Jack Remmington's the Democrat's next hope.

So... GG won? Good job, shitlords.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/994226368903757824

I'm not sure if anyone asked her whether crushing a child's testicles to get their parents to confess is immoral and/or technically legal or not.

[seagrams hotsauce]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/994182263960162304

A little history - when Candace originally announced her creepy snitch on a friend reputation tracker website, under the guise of anti-bullying, Zoe Quinn immediately went on the attack, as it threatened the anti-bullying business model she was attempting to set up. As a result, in a weird enemy of my enemy type deal, Candace got in with the GG crowd and a year later started red-pilling the shit out of anything that moves.

Cut to today, and Candace has Kanye and Trump in her pocket. Gamergate effectively catapulted a female POC to a whitehouse meeting, whilst the antis managed to collectively crap up doublefine, Mirrors Edge 2, finally tip Phil Fish over the edge and put forward Brianna Wu as Jack Remmington's the Democrat's next hope.

So... GG won? Good job, shitlords.

imagine getting this excited about gamergate in 2018 lol

[Nintex]

North Korea frees 3 U.S. prisoners
President Trump said the men are on their way to the United States after being released to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo during his visit to Pyongyang.
Their release, which came after Pompeo met with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, coincided with additional talks about a planned summit between Trump and Kim.

In exchange for a McDonalds?

[curly]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/994182263960162304

A little history - when Candace originally announced her creepy snitch on a friend reputation tracker website, under the guise of anti-bullying, Zoe Quinn immediately went on the attack, as it threatened the anti-bullying business model she was attempting to set up. As a result, in a weird enemy of my enemy type deal, Candace got in with the GG crowd and a year later started red-pilling the shit out of anything that moves.

Cut to today, and Candace has Kanye and Trump in her pocket. Gamergate effectively catapulted a female POC to a whitehouse meeting, whilst the antis managed to collectively crap up doublefine, Mirrors Edge 2, finally tip Phil Fish over the edge and put forward Brianna Wu as Jack Remmington's the Democrat's next hope.

So... GG won? Good job, shitlords.

imagine getting this excited about gamergate in 2018 lol

if you take off your glasses, squint your eyes, and give yourself some light brain damage then GAMERGATE CLEARLY WON SUCK IT SJDUBYAS

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/994179864436596736

I’m no wanna-be authoritarian, but I always thought a major part of the game when you try and de-legitimize the press is to not immediately give the game away in the same sentence?

[seagrams hotsauce]

I like that now he's just outright saying negative stories on him are inherently fake lol. I do appreciate how Trumps stupidity has resulted in his complete lack of tolerance for subtlety and inference. He doesn't pretend to be dumb-guy smart, because he's too dumb to even pull that off.

[I'm a Puppy!]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/994179864436596736

I’m no wanna-be authoritarian, but I always thought a major part of the game when you try and de-legitimize the press is to not immediately give the game away in the same sentence?

Honestly? How can this guy  be so stupid. What do you think is going to happen? You take their credentials away and they're going to be "Fine, now we can publish whatever we want." Seriously it's like the only leverage you have and you want to give it away?
No wonder this guy has no money.

[agrajag]

The News Media is a bad (or fake) guy. Sad!

[Assimilate]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/994179864436596736

I’m no wanna-be authoritarian, but I always thought a major part of the game when you try and de-legitimize the press is to not immediately give the game away in the same sentence?

Honestly? How can this guy  be so stupid. What do you think is going to happen? You take their credentials away and they're going to be "Fine, now we can publish whatever we want." Seriously it's like the only leverage you have and you want to give it away?
No wonder this guy has no money.

This entire post is distinguished mentally-challenged. The guy has lied his way to the White House, he is probably richer than he has ever been right now, and yet you still think he's stupid for what he does? He knows his base, and he knows what works. Why would he change? He has CNN covering him 24/7.

And yeah the mainstream news outlets are practically fake at this point. It's all bullshit. They don't give a fuck about giving you real news, it's all about money.

[Mandark]

CNN already had its credentials taken away during the election and they came crawling back for them, didn't they?

Nope.

[Brehvolution]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/994179864436596736

I’m no wanna-be authoritarian, but I always thought a major part of the game when you try and de-legitimize the press is to not immediately give the game away in the same sentence?

Honestly? How can this guy  be so stupid. What do you think is going to happen? You take their credentials away and they're going to be "Fine, now we can publish whatever we want." Seriously it's like the only leverage you have and you want to give it away?
No wonder this guy has no money.

This entire post is distinguished mentally-challenged. The guy has lied his way to the White House, he is probably richer than he has ever been right now, and yet you still think he's stupid for what he does? He knows his base, and he knows what works. Why would he change? He has CNN covering him 24/7.

And yeah the mainstream news outlets are practically fake at this point. It's all bullshit. They don't give a fuck about giving you real news, it's all about money.

What benefit is there to his base in the sitting president openly threatening to decredential the media

There doesn't have to be a benefit. As long as he's is fucking with people, that's all they care about.

[etiolate]

The gain is this:

-Obama actually put the press on trial and undid press protections and attacked whistleblowers.
-Trump insults the press on twitter

Reaction towards Trump is 100x than what it was for the actions Obama took. End result: disgust for the press by the public. He doesn't need to take away credentials if the press takes away its own social credential.

[etiolate]

Also, pls no 4d chess takes. I don't think Trump is trying to do that. I think he's trying to trick the press into reporting a good economy by baiting them with insults about how they're not talking about the economy. He's done that sort of thing before.

[Mandark]

Reaction towards Trump is 100x than what it was for the actions Obama took. End result: disgust for the press by the public.

ya, the people who scream "fake news" are probably just really well informed about whistleblower prosecutions

[kingv]

The economy is honestly not THAT good.

It’s doing fine. Wage growth still sucks, so the average person isn’t really doing any better this year than last, and there are near-record deficits.

With near record deficits, theoretically it SHOULD be booming, but it’s not.

[Nola]

Reaction towards Trump is 100x than what it was for the actions Obama took. End result: disgust for the press by the public.

ya, the people who scream "fake news" are probably just really well informed about whistleblower prosecutions

Yeah, I'm sure the right is just really pissed at how Obama treated whistleblowers and are totally doing this because of a set of morally justified grievances, not just continuing to blindly buy into these self-serving anti-democratic attacks on non-rightwing press to galvanize their base and condition them to rationalize away any scrutiny, legitimate or not, that has roots going back to the Nixon administration and really started gaining steam during the early days of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. I mean just look at this unwavering consistency in terms of genuine concern and advocacy for the fair treatment of whistleblowers:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/392382893470662656
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/356012775488753665
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/471423704597942273





(this one is fun because it was penned by Trump's first under secretary for national security)







Truly the new generation of torch carriers, deeply concerned about ensuring the next Mark Felt or Daniel Ellsberg will feel comfortable speaking out against government corruption and malfeasance....

[Nintex]

 

As Iran, Syria and Israel enter in a hot war the president must be busy discussing the escalations with his defense team looking to de-escalate tensions.

Or not

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/994346538028675072

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/994345813064192012

[Assimilate]

When you call Trump stupid like the media does he doubles down on the stupidity. Trump is like the abyss in the all too famous Nietzsche quote "if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."  Only that the abyss here is stupidity, and Trump is staring right back at us.

When he doubles down he just shows you how fucking stupid most Americans are. That includes the talking heads on network television. And he definitely knows this, he knows how dumb people in America are. He also does not believe that any of his actions will have consequences, because they never did since the day he was born.

I think we can call him stupid when he goes to fucking jail and/or his empire crumbles and/or he gets fucking impeached. Until then he is playing 4d chess.

[curly]

you're right i do feel stupider after reading that

[Assimilate]

you're right i do feel stupider after reading that

Fight the good breh, and when he gets re-elected gather in your hugbox and cry with the rest of the distinguished mentally-challenged fellow reees

 

 

[Nintex]

I just read this

David Miller, a white 54-year-old Ohio voter at a polling place in Cudell Recreation Center in Cleveland, pulled a Republican primary ballot Tuesday for the first time he could remember to vote in the governor’s race. Like many other voters, he felt he had been left behind.

“I mainly was a mainstream Democrat,” he said, before describing how that started to change before the 2016 election. “Every time I turned on the TV, there’s a Democrat calling me a racist and I just got tired of it.”

 

The future refused to change

[thehunter116]

Oliver North commenting on Iran just sums up that past 2 years

 

[benjipwns]

That's weird. I went to check the news today and verrit.com just has this placeholder image with no other links. Anyone know when it'll be back up from maintenance?

Peter shut it down back in February, initially it had a message up that it was "Rebooting Summer 2018" but that disappeared sometime since then. They also locked the twitter account.




It makes you wonder about the promises that were made like VerritPremium™:
https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/904485411963142144


But Peter's still having a good time out there on twitter:
https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/993585731741405184
https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/993589802124619776

[etiolate]

You powder his face and that's Jack Skellington cosplay

[Brehvolution]

I just read this

David Miller, a white 54-year-old Ohio voter at a polling place in Cudell Recreation Center in Cleveland, pulled a Republican primary ballot Tuesday for the first time he could remember to vote in the governor’s race. Like many other voters, he felt he had been left behind.

“I mainly was a mainstream Democrat,” he said, before describing how that started to change before the 2016 election. “Every time I turned on the TV, there’s a Democrat calling me a racist and I just got tired of it.”

 

The future refused to change

Racists HATE being call racist. Maybe the man in the light box was talking to him.

[Optimus]

I just read this

David Miller, a white 54-year-old Ohio voter at a polling place in Cudell Recreation Center in Cleveland, pulled a Republican primary ballot Tuesday for the first time he could remember to vote in the governor’s race. Like many other voters, he felt he had been left behind.

“I mainly was a mainstream Democrat,” he said, before describing how that started to change before the 2016 election. “Every time I turned on the TV, there’s a Democrat calling me a racist and I just got tired of it.”

 

The future refused to change

Racists HATE being call racist. Maybe the man in the light box was talking to him.

Kafkatrap detected

[Optimus]

Also, where is Jack?


CNN poll: Democrats' 2018 advantage is nearly gone

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/994587349718847489

 


Time traveling 2018 me to 2015 me:
"Remember Trump will win the election..."

"HAHAHAH no way"

"Trump will meet to cut a deal with Kim Jun Un"

"WAT THE FUCK DUDE"


What's with these album cover photo ops Trump, jesus christ


https://twitter.com/annafifield/status/994343072178716673

 

[kingv]

I anticipate this meeting greatly.

What will “chairman Un” think of Trump?

[Brehvolution]

How can he meet with Un without any pre-conditions?

[Joe Molotov]

https://pagesix.com/2018/05/09/don-jr-moving-on-from-vanessa-with-fox-host-kimberly-guilfoyle/

lul, Don Jr is schtupping some Fox News broad now

Extremely on brand.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/994600229080109057

Rudy has left his job so he can spend more time on the Mueller thing which took him longer than he thought it would (I think he told everyone it would be wrapped up within a week, 2 tops if he went and talked to Mueller.


How are the Trump's blackmailing Mike Pence 

https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/status/994546658963869696


So Michael Cohen promoted his vast knowledge of how the Trump admin works and then the corporations figured out he was useless.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-questioned-payment-to-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen/

However in doing so, he might've broken a 'few' laws. Aren't lawyers supposed to keep one out of legal trouble? 


In other news the Iranian plotline has now officially been added to this season:
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/994147593822326784

[Mandark]

Discharge petition's been filed in the House for immigration bills.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/994626363675103234

[kingv]

Interesting timeline on the Cohen payments.

In Jan 2017 he gets $500K from an oligarch, then in Feb  2017 he hand delivers a plan to lift sanctions to the President (via Flynn).

[Nola]

Discharge petition's been filed in the House for immigration bills.

Also the Senate is trying to force a discharge petition on Net Neutrality...Though it seems highly unlikely it has any chance of getting out of the House even if it narrowly passes the Senate.

[Mandark]

Immigration's probably a dead end too as long as the threat of a Trump veto is there, but good on those reps for at least forcing a vote.

[Nola]

Interesting timeline on the Cohen payments.

In Jan 2017 he gets $500K from an oligarch, then in Feb  2017 he hand delivers a plan to lift sanctions to the President (via Flynn).

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