Again, you grab these talking point by point headlines from fucking MSNBC. You don't actually live on the ground with these things, you aren't part of any profession that deals with this.
And numbers can be fudged around. There's a ton of immigrants from Asian countries that contribute to those economic numbers, not house cleaners from Ecuador that can barely read. You don't tend to flee when you are rich, or highly educated (unless it's a real fucked up war torn area).
Also, no one is talking about immigration as a whole. They are talking about massive fluctuations of people coming in ILLEGALLY. Or do you think it's fair that people that do it the right way have to suffer while others just illegally come in with their entire family? I'm not sure why you can't wrap your head around that. And it's also not an American only problem, Sulivan does speak about immigration as a European issue above all else. Europe has the biggest problem. Not the U.S.
The immigration system needs an overhaul but the right and left become gridlocked over this crap because each side panders to the crazies in their respective camps.
I appreciate the constant ad hominems and straw men, they really bolster your arguments and make you look less childish and reactionary.
Honestly you don't even know what professions I have had/have, but yes I do have plenty of personal experience with occupations that directly touch these issues, I suspect most people you talk with will have personal experience.
Though more importantly I am not arrogant and dumb enough to conclude my experience is conclusive or over-riding proof of a larger trend. Instead I would take that experience and compare them to what objective(and even subjective)research has produced on a given subset of the topic. And to an extent I can accept the argument about inconclusive data, but you better give me a really convincing rationale. I mean just the other day I was questioning whether the BLS statistics on service industry income isn't possibly being warped by a lurking variable of tax avoidance I have under-estimated. But if you catastrophize over illegal immigrant crime like you have done today and in the past. it's good to see what the data actually says, and when the data seems to show the opposite of your screeching, the onus is on you to do more than try and claim vague conspiracy for why you would continue to stand by baseless claims? When you say there are massive fluctuations and increases in illegal immigration, it's nice to look at what the evidence says, and again, the evidence seems to say the opposite of your whining. So there's a problem here. Thats before we get to the logical inconsistency of you previously claiming America has the loosest immigration system and yet also claiming that our system has resulted in a superior immigrant situation than European counter-parts?
Personally, I think the immigration system is broken in a litany of ways, and has been for a very long time. I am not averse to doing things to clean that up, what I am not ok with is bullshit hyperbole or outright fabrications to justify draconian policies or methods, which are often counter-productive, if not downright inhumane. It made sense that Obama refocused immigration resources toward prioritizing higher level crimes, and it makes little sense to divert resources away from that to focus on lower level offenders like the Trump administration has done, trying to rapidly ramp up enforcement through shoddy hiring practices and low oversight that we already have a historical record under Bush of numerous abuses and problems arising from. It would make a lot of sense to shift and focus resources on enforcing e-verify on the business side while simultaneously improving the resources and pathways of legal immigration. There are 12.5 million illegal immigrants in this country, 3.6 million that came in before their 18th birthday. It might no be fair that these people get amnesty before the people waiting in the legal queue get their chance, but it is the only real viable, humane, long-term solution.
