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https://fightfascism.net/the-road-to-wigan-pier/

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Homage to Catalonia isn't even on here, BTW.

What Happened was on here, though.

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Animal Farm before Homage to Catalonia? :thinking

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peter strzok totally doesn't give any fucks, why aren't more congressional witnesses like this

they'll probably be whining about him for the rest of the week, i remember some ceo type a few years ago similarly testifying where he was basically like "you're all idiots, you know nothing of my industry or my job, your questions are irrelevant, foolish or both" and people lost their shit about him disrespecting members of congress until the cycle moved on, i assume it was one of those silicon valley white supremacists

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This day was fucking crazy.

https://twitter.com/FoxBusiness/status/1017456061471772677

Trump arrived 30 minutes late
Threw a tantrum about leaving NATO
An emergency session was called
Trump did an impromptu press conference to reconfirm US commitment to NATO but also lay down his demands and repeat his threat of leaving
Then he flew off to London before the emergency session could be held
Stoltenberg thanked Trump for his 'leadership'

Trump put out a statement that all members would contribute more but Macron denies anything was agreed
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1017456830530940928

Meanwhile Juncker was drunk af
https://twitter.com/Lars9596/status/1017447973855383552

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The endurance of the Kennedy mythology is really something.

Tragic endings have a way of really skewing history and people's perceptions.



 

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Stormy Daniels got arrested for touching someone at a strip club in Ohio while performing (truly a serious offense that should be prevented by the state); I'm sure that was just a coincidence, the undercover officer was probably there for something super important.

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Stormy Daniels got arrested for touching someone at a strip club in Ohio while performing (truly a serious offense that should be prevented by the state); I'm sure that was just a coincidence.
And there's Democrats that think they will ever win an election in Trump's America.  :neogaf



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/stormy-daniels-arrest-ohio-strip-club-1.4743667
Real Life: The President gets police in Ohio to charge you with an offense that could get you six months in jail and a $1,000 fine. The charges are dropped the next day.
Prison Break: The VP/president kills everyone that's remotely connected to you. 

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She allegedly performed the same act with several officers who approached the stage and forced one officer's head into her bare chest.

Several officers? Must have been a counterfeit DVD ring on site or something.

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The charges relate to the law prohibiting dancers from touching customers and customers from touching dancers — excluding immediate family members.

Thank God Ohioans have legislators with family values.

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In case their parents come in to see the show ?

I'm curious if we'll learn from how far up the order to this police force came.
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If only Ohio police had the necessary powers like those in the Kingdom of Hawai'i once had before anti-cop bigots undermined public safety:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/21/hawaii-police-sex-with-prostitutes/6682145/
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HONOLULU (AP) — Honolulu police officers have urged lawmakers to keep an exemption in state law that allows undercover officers to have sex with prostitutes during investigations, touching off a heated debate.

Authorities say they need the legal protection to catch lawbreakers in the act.
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A Hawaii bill cracking down on prostitution was originally written to do away with the sex exemption for officers on duty, but it was amended to restore that protection after police testimony.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/25042683/lawmakers-plan-to-change-state-law-so-officers-cant-have-sex-during-prostitution-investigations
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H.B. 1926 as it was originally written would have nullified the police exemption to state law, if the officer agrees to pay a fee for "sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse".

In a written statement, Honolulu Police Captain Jason Kawabata of the Narcotics/Vice Division testified current law "exempts law enforcement officers from the provisions of the law so that they may effectively conduct the undercover operations necessary to enforce it".

Capt. Kawabata went on to testify that "even if the intent of the amendment is merely to limit actual conduct by the officer, we must oppose it.  Codifying the limitations on an officer's conduct would greatly assist pimps and prostitutes in their efforts to avoid prosecution."
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The Department of the Prosecuting Attorney of the City and County of Honolulu testified in support of law enforcement agencies' concerns about dropping the exemption that protects officers.  In written testimony provided by the City Prosecutor, officials argued removing the current immunity for officers places them at risk of criminal liabilities if a prostitute "cop checks" police by "ensuring there is penetration of her genitals by a part of the officer's body, which includes his or her hands".

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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/dem-rep-says-strzok-should-get-purple-heart-for-enduring-hearings-designed-for-people-who-watch-fox-news/

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“The Russians are loving it, because this is what they want. This is what they want. You’d think it was Benghazi. It was a never-ending television show from Congress that got nowhere except trying to influence the people that watch Fox News, and that’s what this is about,” he said.

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https://www.wired.com/story/judd-legum-popular-information-politics-newsletter-for-everyone/
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ONE OF THE few things people agree on in 2018 is that the news industry is broken. The old business models don’t work. Meanwhile, audiences feel overwhelmed and underserved: According to a recent Pew Research Center survey, seven in 10 Americans say they are exhausted by the news. The consensus stops with the diagnosis, though; when it comes to prescribing a treatment, everyone has different ideas.

To Judd Legum, editor-in-chief and founder of left-leaning political news website ThinkProgress, the two biggest problems are ads and social media. Digital ads aren't sustainable as a business model for online publications and they create incentives for clickbait and other poor-quality journalism. Social media is a firehouse of information and leave readers and outlets alike at the whim of algorithms. This is especially worrisome to Legum right now, given the upcoming midterm elections and the need for voters to be informed on the issues.

“People need to make more intentional choices and to regain power over what news they read,” says Legum. “There's something fundamentally broken about news delivery as a process. The power is too concentrated. I’ve felt more and more strongly that I wanted to start something new that could circumvent the system.”

Today, Legum is joining a small but growing group of journalists and readers who think one way to fix this is through a good old-fashioned email newsletter. And he is going all in. After 13 years at the helm of ThinkProgress–a site that garners around 10 million unique visitors a month–he’s leaving the 40-person newsroom he runs to launch a paid political newsletter called Popular Information, which he will write himself. Starting July 23, Legum will publish Popular Information four days a week.
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The benefits to both journalist and reader of a direct-to-inbox newsletter are clear: there’s no middleman between reader and writer
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“What I’m trying to do with the newsletter is provide some perspective and organization for people who might have a real job during the day. This is for people who are feeling overwhelmed.”

And he’s hoping a good number of his readers will pay for that curation. Popular Information will be free for everyone for the first six to eight weeks in order to gain an audience; after that, the Monday edition will be free, and the other three days accessible only to paying members. Luckily, the overhead will be low. Legum will work out of his small apartment in Washington DC and has enough money saved to live off for a little while he builds up his subscriber base.

“There's a hustle to it,” says Legum. If he succeeds, he might expand Popular Information to have a staff larger than one.
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The other thing Legum's counting on to pull this off is a streamlined back-end.
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“I don't really have any expectations on money except I'm going to put my full effort into this and see what I can make of it,” Legum says. “Whether I succeed or not I think depends on whether it ends up being good.”

One challenge facing Legum, and any other newsletter creator, is that at some point people will hit a limit on how many newsletters they want to receive and are willing to pay for.
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The future of journalism is apparently literally the origin of The Drudge Report almost 25 years ago ($10 per year!), only in longform articles rather than curated links? :doge

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Nintex

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We're reaching critical levels of fuckery
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1017489280095145984
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kingv

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The endurance of the Kennedy mythology is really something.

Tragic endings have a way of really skewing history and people's perceptions.

I mean she just ended up on Fox News, but now a hot milf. Doesn’t really sound all that tragic.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/stormy-daniels-arrest-ohio-strip-club-1.4743667
Real Life: The President gets police in Ohio to charge you with an offense that could get you six months in jail and a $1,000 fine. The charges are dropped the next day.
Prison Break: The VP/president kills everyone that's remotely connected to you.

You mean the Clinton White House :doge

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Trump's full comments on the UK and Brexit here:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6766531/trump-may-brexit-us-deal-off/

- Hates the London mayor
- Wants Boris to become PM
- Doesn't want to deal with the UK when they do a soft Brexit
- Thinks the UK likes him
- more fuckery  :rejoice
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https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1017522956900225024

Can't build rockets with food stamps Bernie.  :idont
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The charges got dropped on that Stormy Daniels thing. Pretty blatant fuckery.


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Kara

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Whenever I go in a smokeasy it's a pretty "nope" experience.

Ditto for cigar shops that don't keep their club outside of the storefront.

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 :rofl

~14:15+ especially
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benjipwns

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"Dentists, who needs em?" - Peter Strzok
"Not to mention the blacks and the Jews" - Lisa Page

agrajag

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Paul Gosar was one of my students, and if this wasn't my son's wedding day, I'd knock your teeth out, you anti-dentite bastard.

Kara

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Words fail to capture how profoundly stupid federal legislators are.

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Quote from: Sarah Palin
I suppose I could play their immature, unprofessional, waste-of-time game, too, by claiming these reporters and politicos are homophobe, child molesting, tax evading, anti-dentite, puppy-kicking, chain smoking porn producers…really, they are... I've seen it myself...but I'll only give you the information off-the-record, on deep, deep background; attribute these "facts" to an "anonymous source" and I'll give you more.

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Oh god the latest Pod Save America...

Shielding the President (or other political) office from investigation is not THAT uncommon AFAIK around the world. At least in France (granted a very presidential regime) it's how it's done. I don't think it's an ideal principle but there's some reasons for it. It's true that if I understand correctly the nominee position, it goes beyond temporary protection from normal courts and extends to extraordinary measures like a Special Councel which are already gated behind some political / parliamentary oversight. Retreating behind the sole impeachment process is also a tad weak because obviously without any latitude to investigate a President could only be impeached for an egregious, public breach of his duty (basically urgent destitution in face of a huge crisis).

Oh well. Honestly I think the brunt of criticism should be levied elsewhere (reproductive rights, consumer rights, labour rights, etc...).
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/nation-now/2018/07/11/how-went-donald-trump-critic-president-trump-supporter-column/774925002/

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Donald Trump is the president I didn’t want, but now I know we need

I admit that I was wrong about Trump. He's not a clown, and he is delivering on his promises.
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In my opinion, Trump has had the most successful 18 months as president than any other I've ever drawn. So yes, I support his presidency.

I admit that I was wrong about Trump. He's not a clown. He's a businessman, entertainer, and now the president that I didn't want but now think we need.

Gary Varvel is a cartoonist and columnist for the Indianapolis Star

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Special counsel Robert Mueller has indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers in the 2016 hacking of the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein was expected to announce the indictment Friday at a press conference in Washington.

Rosenstein is overseeing the special counsel’s investigation into Russian interference in the election.

Reports began to emerge in late 2017 that U.S. prosecutors were eyeing charges against Russians in the DNC hack. The Wall Street Journal reported last November that the Justice Department had identified six Russian government officials implicated in the hack and were considering whether to indict them.

The unclassified U.S. intelligence community assessment released last January blamed Russia’s military intelligence agency, the GRU, for breaching the DNC email accounts of Democratic party officials


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Too bad Etoilet isn't here to explain why this is fake news.
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The site he linked to said G2.0 was a false flag created by Dem operatives.

I hope Seth Rich's parents get alllllll the money from their lawsuit.

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Too bad Etoilet isn't here to explain why this is fake news.

I can step in and do it for him.

*insert holodomor pics*

Nola

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https://twitter.com/normative/status/1017814416702824450

Wouldn't exactly say it means much of anything except that it is possibly a hell of a coincidence or the Russian hacking organization took it as a challenge and put people to work, still  :neogaf


Also the timing of this is pretty interesting, to the point I wonder if Mueller is having a bit of a troll moment.

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Mueller and Rosey definitely trolling Donald a bit with the timing.

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Some other interesting stuff pertaining to the "I wish etiolate was around to take these L's."

From Marcy Wheeler's blog post working through the indictment:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/07/13/the-russian-hack/

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The hackers used a server in AZ but then ran that through a server “overseas.” The hackers targeted a DCCC computer in Illinois. Which suggests much of the hot air around transfer times is just that.

The server speeds was one of etiolate's favorite talking points. I mean it was bullshit then and pointed out to him why, still.


Also the ever altruistic Wikileaks:

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The indictment doesn’t name Wikileaks, but alleges that Guccifer 2.0 released additional stolen documents through a website maintained by “Organization 1.” There’s an entire section on communications between Guccifer 2.0 and Wikileaks (starting on page 17). Among other things it quotes Wikileaks as saying on July 6,

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if you have anything hillary related we want it in the next tweo [sic] days prefabl [sic] because the DNC [Democratic National Cnovention] is approaching and she will solidify bernie supporters behind her after.

This is pretty interesting as well:

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I have been saying forever that the easiest way to steal the election would be to steal Hillary’s analytics. The indictment revals that,

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In or around September 2016, the Conspirators also successfully gained access to DNC computers hosted on a third-party cloud-computing service. These computers contained test applications related to the DNC’s analytics. After conducting reconnaissance, the Conspirators gathered data by creating backups, or “snapshots,” of the DNC’s cloud-based systems using the cloud provider’s own technology.

The indictment is silent about what happened to this stolen analytics data.
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Don't worry folks RUDY's on the case.

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1017814258363654145

That's actually a much smarter defense that whatever they did up to that point : blame solely foreign agents, praise the investigation, claim it's the proof you're tough against Russia and expel some diplomats, throw a couple patsies for the collusion (Manafort had the perfect profile) or find some guy ready to fall on his sword for the President (isn't that what they did with O.North ?).

It's way too late for that to be credible though.
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Roger Stone said he talked to Guccifer 2.0 (or at least exchanged PM's with him) before and Guccifer 2.0 turns out to be a GRU operative.
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Don't worry folks RUDY's on the case.

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1017814258363654145

That's actually a much smarter defense that whatever they did up to that point : blame solely foreign agents, praise the investigation, claim it's the proof you're tough against Russia and expel some diplomats, throw a couple patsies for the collusion (Manafort had the perfect profile) or find some guy ready to fall on his sword for the President (isn't that what they did with O.North ?).

It's way too late for that to be credible though.
Until the Roger Stone indictment and whatever else is lurking on the near horizon starts coming to light.

It’s about as smart a play as the whole “we never even spoke to Russians” play before the existence of the Trump Tower meeting came to light, in that it’s obviously going to come back on you as all the facts are pointing in the opposite direction but you have a propoganda network and a captured audience at your back so as long as it carries you through the media cycle for a week it’s fine.


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https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1016730422955462656


Tweet thread. This case is blowing wide open.


The press conference went so bad that other conspiracy theorists are accusing him of sandbagging.

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Remember a few months ago when Rudy came on as Trump's lawyer and said that the Mueller probe was pretty much over and only needed a couple of weeks to wrap everything up? :neogaf
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why does Trey Gowdy look like some sort of disfigured goblin from the hobbit movies?

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why does Trey Gowdy look like some sort of disfigured goblin from the hobbit movies?

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That orc is from LOTRs, not the Hobbit movies.  Two Towers in particular. 

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That orc is from LOTRs, not the Hobbit movies.  Two Towers in particular. 

agrajag is pretty old, he probably just meant it in a "are you kids playing your nintendo?" way
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That orc is from LOTRs, not the Hobbit movies.  Two Towers in particular. 

agrajag is pretty old, he probably just mean it in a "are you kids playing your nintendo?" way

No actually I didn't, I meant the specific aesthetic from the Hobbit movies. Rumbler tried, but he is but a dog, after all.


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Sorry, all orcs look the same to me. :trumps
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You'z can trade in yer dakka fer moah choppa, or vice versah, and you iz still Orky enuff. :bolo

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