Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 7214823 times)

Mandark · « **Reply #21360 on:** July 24, 2018, 01:02:56 PM »

Oh God the Dems are gonna take the House, Trump's going to say Russia rigged it for them and his base is going to believe him.

It's going to be like the Bret Hart/Steve Austin double turn.

Optimus · « **Reply #21361 on:** July 24, 2018, 01:17:59 PM »

It’s Been Over a Year Since MSNBC Has Mentioned US War in Yemen

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For a bit more context, in the time period of July 3, 2017, to July 3, 2018, MSNBC dedicated zero segments to the US’s war in Yemen, but 455 segments to Stormy Daniels.

lol

benjipwns · « **Reply #21362 on:** July 24, 2018, 01:23:00 PM »

i like that someone actually made this chart:

how did they decide on the Y-axis increments? just use default? i have so many questions

benjipwns · « **Reply #21363 on:** July 24, 2018, 01:24:55 PM »

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What seems most likely is MSNBC has found that attacking Russia form the right on matters of foreign policy is the most elegant way to preserve its “progressive” image while still serving traditional centers of power—namely, the Democratic Party establishment, corporate sponsors, and their own revolving door of ex-spook and military contractor-funded talking heads

um, they're called Opportunity Democrats

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #21364 on:** July 24, 2018, 01:33:52 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on July 24, 2018, 01:23:00 PM

i like that someone actually made this chart:
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how did they decide on the Y-axis increments? just use default? i have so many questions

Fixed

Nintex · « **Reply #21365 on:** July 24, 2018, 01:44:42 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on July 24, 2018, 01:02:56 PM

Oh God the Dems are gonna take the House, Trump's going to say Russia rigged it for them and his base is going to believe him.

It's going to be like the Bret Hart/Steve Austin double turn.

No, they're going to push for voter ID's and law enforcement at every polling station to keep the Russians out.
Also, they won't let non-Americans tamper with the voting machines so ballot voting only and Jeff Sessions will count all votes by hand.

Kara · « **Reply #21366 on:** July 24, 2018, 04:41:44 PM »

https://apnews.com/amp/49b5d7d3d6f945a28875cb23aff1e9b5

Brehvolution · « **Reply #21367 on:** July 24, 2018, 04:44:35 PM »

Breed terrorists, brehs.

Nintex · « **Reply #21368 on:** July 24, 2018, 06:01:27 PM »

Dufus or not the fuckery just continues.
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1021862877563637761

https://twitter.com/L0gg0l/status/1021878276443303936

agrajag · « **Reply #21369 on:** July 24, 2018, 09:29:51 PM »

Quote from: nachobro on July 24, 2018, 12:21:34 PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1021784726217142273

Interesting tactic

So this actually happened.

During the press conference of the Putin/Trump summit, a Reuters reporter asked Putin point blank "Did you want Trump to win and did you direct any official to help him win?" (My paraphrasing). Putin answered "Yes, yes I did."

In the official White House Transcript, the first part of the question is cut out, it is just "did you direct any official to help him do that?" without any context.

Later today Trump made those tweeta about Russia wanting to help Democrats.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/07/trump-putin-press-conference-transcript/565385/

kingv · « **Reply #21370 on:** July 24, 2018, 10:00:53 PM »

I assume that clip is going to make it into a lot of campaign ads one day.

agrajag · « **Reply #21371 on:** July 24, 2018, 10:16:06 PM »

Quote from: kingv on July 24, 2018, 10:00:53 PM

I assume that clip is going to make it into a lot of campaign ads one day.

If it doesn't, Democrats are fucking idiots. So it won't.

Also, this happened

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/russia-slams-us-general-votel/index.html

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The Russian Ministry of Defense slammed US Gen. Joseph Votel Tuesday, accusing America's top military commander in the Middle East of discrediting President Donald Trump's position after Votel expressed hesitancy about working with Russia in Syria.

"With his statements, General Votel not only discredited the official position of his supreme commander-in-chief, but also exacerbated the illegality under international law and US law of the military presence of American servicemen in Syria," the Russian Ministry said in a statement published on social media in response to an interview Votel gave to ABC News.

Mandark · « **Reply #21372 on:** July 24, 2018, 11:08:45 PM »

GOP nominee for governor in Georgia. Something something identity politics.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21373 on:** July 25, 2018, 01:06:22 AM »

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On the first couple’s recent trip overseas, Melania Trump’s television aboard Air Force One was tuned to CNN. President Trump was not pleased.

He raged at his staff for violating a rule that the White House entourage should begin each trip tuned to Fox — his preferred network over what he considers the “fake news” CNN — and caused “a bit of a stir” aboard Air Force One, according to an email obtained by The New York Times. The email, an internal exchange between officials in the White House Military Office and the White House Communications Agency last Thursday, also called for the ordering of two additional televisions to support Beam, a TiVo-like streaming device, to make sure the president and first lady could both watch TV in their separate hotel rooms when they travel.

At the end of the email chain, officials confirmed that tuning the TVs to Fox would be standard operating procedure going forward.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21374 on:** July 25, 2018, 01:11:03 AM »

https://twitter.com/conservmillen/status/1021530947387310080

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1021750530249568257

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1021810409127309313

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agrajag · « **Reply #21375 on:** July 25, 2018, 01:12:22 AM »

separate hotel rooms

benjipwns · « **Reply #21376 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:46:18 AM »

VomKriege · « **Reply #21377 on:** July 25, 2018, 06:19:33 AM »

Insert meme : "Joke on you I'm only pretending to..."

Nintex · « **Reply #21378 on:** July 25, 2018, 12:24:25 PM »

The Cohen / Trump tape actually leaked to CNN and it's really a nothing burger.

I don't understand the #resistance at all. They had this nice piece on Russia and the honeypot going but instead they're back to Trump paying off a playmate.

kingv · « **Reply #21379 on:** July 25, 2018, 12:39:36 PM »

They are discussing committing a crime?

They are discussing committing a felony FEC violation.

Trump waived privilege probably because he thought he could spin this particular narrative positively because the tape was not incredibly damning or salacious in itself and they can rely on the press to cover it somewhat ineptly.

Mandark · « **Reply #21380 on:** July 25, 2018, 12:46:26 PM »

"Why is anyone paying attention to this story about the president paying hush money to cover up his affair with a former Playboy model?"

guys

Steve Contra · « **Reply #21381 on:** July 25, 2018, 01:04:27 PM »

Who is this #resistance Nintex keeps talking about when he's talking about ongoing federal investigations?

Himu · « **Reply #21382 on:** July 25, 2018, 01:28:20 PM »

Liking the new dem house bill on college tuition debt.

*stage 1 Vince face*

Now drop gun control and talk about economics and we might have a deal democrats. Sway me, bbs.

Boogie · « **Reply #21383 on:** July 25, 2018, 01:37:18 PM »

Himu · « **Reply #21384 on:** July 25, 2018, 01:37:58 PM »

Mandark · « **Reply #21385 on:** July 25, 2018, 01:41:03 PM »

Nope, gotta take all your guns to make it easier for Jade Helm 2.

Himu · « **Reply #21386 on:** July 25, 2018, 01:49:27 PM »

No!

agrajag · « **Reply #21387 on:** July 25, 2018, 01:52:02 PM »

Cindi plz

Steve Contra · « **Reply #21388 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:21:20 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on July 25, 2018, 01:41:03 PM

Nope, gotta take all your guns to make it easier for Jade Helm 2.

There better be way more FEMA re-education camps and forced abortions in the sequel.

Nola · « **Reply #21389 on:** July 25, 2018, 04:09:21 PM »

Quote from: Shostakovich on July 25, 2018, 01:06:29 PM

It is, all things considered, not a big deal. The most important bit is that campaign finance law was violated, but there's no reason to dwell on that. If it's a big deal because it demonstrates Trump's moral character than it is so, so far on the bottom of the list compared to things we already know about him, like how he violently assaulted and raped one of his ex wives when he got some bad hair plugs.

Kinda goes to show the chaos theory in action. Just do and say a whole bunch of horrible shit constantly and inevitably the bar for what will earn actual widespread public condemnation and lead to repercussions gets moved so much that normal crimes and improprieties that would end the career or doom the administration of any normal politician are basically shrugged off after a 48 hour news cycle.

agrajag · « **Reply #21390 on:** July 25, 2018, 04:10:27 PM »

Don't forget the latest coordinated(?) propaganda against the Yass queen by Trump and Russian state media

Nola · « **Reply #21391 on:** July 25, 2018, 04:46:30 PM »

https://twitter.com/robrousseau/status/1021573352450867203

agrajag · « **Reply #21392 on:** July 25, 2018, 04:50:47 PM »

Yeah I was reading about that lady yesterday, shit is wild.

zomgee · « **Reply #21393 on:** July 25, 2018, 05:00:22 PM »

Quote from: Nola on July 25, 2018, 04:09:21 PM

Quote from: Shostakovich on July 25, 2018, 01:06:29 PM
It is, all things considered, not a big deal. The most important bit is that campaign finance law was violated, but there's no reason to dwell on that. If it's a big deal because it demonstrates Trump's moral character than it is so, so far on the bottom of the list compared to things we already know about him, like how he violently assaulted and raped one of his ex wives when he got some bad hair plugs.

Kinda goes to show the chaos theory in action. Just do and say a whole bunch of horrible shit constantly and inevitably the bar for what will earn actual widespread public condemnation and lead to repercussions gets moved so much that normal crimes and improprieties that would end the career or doom the administration of any normal politician are basically shrugged off after a 48 hour news cycle.

remember when democracy was lost when barack HUSSEIN obama wore a tan suit

Nola · « **Reply #21394 on:** July 25, 2018, 05:06:02 PM »

And you just know he put grey poupon on a burger and continued to ruin the of the office of the presidency by kicking his feet up on the oval office desk while wearing that tan suit.

Edit: crap, that definitely wasn't first post on a page worthy, oh well.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #21395 on:** July 25, 2018, 05:11:12 PM »

Remember Obama's terrorist fist jab? God, those were much simpler times, weren't they?

kingv · « **Reply #21396 on:** July 25, 2018, 06:06:38 PM »

Quote from: Nola on July 25, 2018, 04:09:21 PM

Quote from: Shostakovich on July 25, 2018, 01:06:29 PM
It is, all things considered, not a big deal. The most important bit is that campaign finance law was violated, but there's no reason to dwell on that. If it's a big deal because it demonstrates Trump's moral character than it is so, so far on the bottom of the list compared to things we already know about him, like how he violently assaulted and raped one of his ex wives when he got some bad hair plugs.

Kinda goes to show the chaos theory in action. Just do and say a whole bunch of horrible shit constantly and inevitably the bar for what will earn actual widespread public condemnation and lead to repercussions gets moved so much that normal crimes and improprieties that would end the career or doom the administration of any normal politician are basically shrugged off after a 48 hour news cycle.

If you’re not walking buttfirst into someone and pretending to eat their dick while yelling racial epithets, it’s not even a real scandal.

Nola · « **Reply #21397 on:** July 25, 2018, 06:11:59 PM »

I also just want to throw it out there because I think it speaks to the Trump chaos phenomenon, that Rudy's defense of the Cohen tape on TV yesterday was letting it be known that the Trump tape wasn't as bad as the tapes he's listened to between mobsters, so it's whatevs.

Nintex · « **Reply #21398 on:** July 25, 2018, 06:14:37 PM »

Barrack Hussein the Kenyan did not salute the soldiers leaving his helicopter and instead insulted them with his Latte.

REAL AMERICAN Donald J. Trump however, even helped to return a hat that was blown away by the wind to avoid disrespect to the uniform

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The madman has done it again
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1022216726845513728

We're looking at a zero tariffs deal between the EU and US.
May must feel pretty bad right about now.

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1022214662945943552

Jesus, Trump got everything from that drunk idiot
- US can export soybeans to the EU (and other goods they couldn't before with immediate effect)
- EU will buy LNG from the US to diversify its energy supply
- EU and US will hold off on any further tariffs as long as either party doesn't leave the negotiations
- EU and US will team up to reform the WTO

All Juncker got is that they will 'look at' the steel and aluminium tariffs and Trump won't enact more tariffs while negotiations are ongoing.

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Mr Juncker claimed a "major concession" from the US president was a promise not to increase tariffs on cars and auto parts during negotiations.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #21399 on:** July 25, 2018, 06:44:55 PM »

I usually don't post here, because I don't follow American politics that closely since it doesn't really affect me all that much and there is only so much time in the day to follow political fuckery.
But the EU bent to accomodate Germany's wishes IMO. The (talked about) tariffs on cars,steel and aluminum will fall and countries who rely on the European market to sell their agricultural products get fucked over.

The EU had no business giving in to Trump's power play and yet they did because the German industry was getting restless.
But still, let's wait and see how the agreement looks like.

Nintex · « **Reply #21400 on:** July 25, 2018, 06:52:45 PM »

Quote from: KennyLoggins on July 25, 2018, 06:44:55 PM

I don't usually post here, because I don't follow American politics that closely since it doesn't really affect me all that much and there is only so much time in the day to follow political fuckery.
But the EU bent to accomodate Germany's wishes IMO. The (talked about) tariffs on cars,steel and aluminum will fall and countries who rely on the European market to sell their agricultural products get fucked over.

The EU had no business giving in to Trump's power play and yet they did because the German industry was getting restless.
But still, let's wait and see how the agreement looks like.

My guess is the EU people will dust off TTIP and then Miller will remind Trump that was Obama's thing and we're back at square one.
What is more astonishing is that Juncker didn't get anything in return. Like the US easing travel regulations for EU citizens or something.

All he got was Trump not imposing tariffs that he probably couldn't have enacted without support from Congress and the GOP anyway.
His 'national security' loophole that worked on Chinese steel wouldn't have so easily worked on EU produce and consumer goods.

Meanwhile, Cohen was tapin' everybody
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1022227562951569408

Nola · « **Reply #21401 on:** July 25, 2018, 06:57:01 PM »

It's kind of like denuclearization on the Korean peninsula Nintex, getting people to state a desire for an ideal is not that hard, actually getting both sides to reach that ideal is quite a bit more tricky.

For instance I look forward to how Trump parses going to the bread basket and telling all those industry farmers he just promised to pay off due to his trade war that we can no longer subsidize their businesses full stop(also putting us in a difficult spot with the China trade war front). Letting the oil industry know, and the states that also subsidize them, that they are going to have to live without their annual billions in subsidies and automobile drivers just need to suck it up.

Nintex · « **Reply #21402 on:** July 25, 2018, 07:26:36 PM »

Quote from: Nola on July 25, 2018, 06:57:01 PM

It's kind of like denuclearization on the Korean peninsula Nintex, getting people to state a desire for an ideal is not that hard, actually getting both sides to reach that ideal is quite a bit more tricky.

For instance I look forward to how Trump parses going to the bread basket and telling all those industry farmers he just promised to pay off due to his trade war that we can no longer subsidize their businesses full stop(also putting us in a difficult spot with the China trade war front). Letting the oil industry know, and the states that also subsidize them, that they are going to have to live without their annual billions in subsidies and automobile drivers just need to suck it up.

I'm sure they'll put in some exceptions for 'both sides' but this episode is very strange.
As Kenny pointed out German industry was restless and Juncker's position as EU chief was a bit precarious after his drinking binge (excuse me: back pain) at the NATO summit.

Coming home with a deal with Trump will make him more resilient politically. Especially because his two previous rivals (Guy Verhofstadt and Martin Schultz) would not agree to such an agreement with Trump.
The only candidate that could upend Juncker is our very own Prime Minister Mark Rutte who helped Trump navigate the politics and optics of NATO summit earlier but he has said a couple of times he's not interested in the job of heading up the EU commission.
Juncker went to the US holding his hat and represented the German car industry more than anything. The soybeans and LNG were probably 'easy' wins cooked up by the Brussels bureaucrats to make sure there would be a benefit for Trump.
However I don't think they intended for Juncker to sign off on a Mexican stand-off in terms of trade negotiations. In fact, some politicians have already pointed out that Juncker does not have the mandate or power to make all those concessions to Trump.

zomgee · « **Reply #21403 on:** July 25, 2018, 07:56:42 PM »

Finally we're going to be saved from the tyranny of deputy attorney general Rosenstein. I feel safer already.

agrajag · « **Reply #21404 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:07:16 PM »

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the madman has done it again

Said an increasingly nervous troll for the 12th time this year.

Nola · « **Reply #21405 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:07:20 PM »

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“FCC Chairman Ajit Pai didn't bend Wednesday to pressure from President Donald Trump, who on Tuesday night slammed as “disgraceful” and “unfair” the FCC decision that likely killed conservative broadcast giant Sinclair Broadcast Group's $3.9 billion merger with Tribune Media.

“I stand by our decision,” Pai told members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee Wednesday afternoon during an oversight hearing.

It's a tense time for Pai. After Trump tapped him to lead the FCC in the earliest days of his administration, Pai has generally avoided any pitfalls with the president. Trump's broadside now puts Pai in a small club of administration officials caught in the president's crossfire.

"So sad and unfair that the FCC wouldn’t approve the Sinclair Broadcast merger with Tribune," Trump tweeted. "This would have been a great and much needed Conservative voice for and of the People. Liberal Fake News NBC and Comcast gets approved, much bigger, but not Sinclair. Disgraceful!"”

...When Ajit Pai is the hero of a story.

Nola · « **Reply #21406 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:40:15 PM »

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American voters believe 51 - 35 percent "that the Russian government has compromising information about President Trump," according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.

Republicans don't believe 70 - 18 percent there is compromising information, the only listed party, gender, education, age or racial group which does not believe it, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll finds. Two other groups are divided:
44 percent of white voters with no college degree believe the Russians have something and 43 percent don't believe it;
42 percent of white men believe it and 43 percent don't believe it.
The U.S. and Russia share the blame for the relationship between the two countries, 54 percent of U.S. voters say, while 38 percent say Russia is to blame and 4 percent say the U.S. is to blame.

The Helsinki summit between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin was a failure for the U.S., voters say 52 - 27 percent. The summit was a success for Russia, voters say 73 - 8 percent.

Trump was not acting in the best interest of the U.S., voters say 54 - 41 percent.

"Whether it is with love or not, President Donald Trump's relationship with Russia has delivered a small blow to his already poor standing with the American people," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

"Following his meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, President Trump's job approval is back below 40 percent again.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2557

I guess I'll take this as a glimmer of positive news amidst Republicans trying tp push for impeaching Rod Rosenstein and trying to turn the country into a banana republic, while James Comey and the "concerned moderates" are out there claiming that Democrats better not try to give everyone healthcare and better wages because their lot will presumably have to vote for the GOP.

Kara · « **Reply #21407 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:51:22 PM »

http://thefayetteadvocate.com/2018/07/25/whistleblower-provides-emails-that-show-stormy-daniels-arrest-was-pre-planned/

kingv · « **Reply #21408 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:18:17 PM »

So the Rosenstein resolution was filed as non-privileged, meaning they won’t be able to force a vote on it, meaning it’s not really intended as anything but a show resolution, imo.

I think the EU meeting is interesting, and it LOOKS like a win for Trump upfront, but like most things trade, the devil is in the details and pinky swearing in the White House doesn’t really mean a whole hell of a lot at the end of the day. Remember that Trumps measurement of success at trade is a zero deficit (or less). A zero tariff works very well might actually INCREASE the trade deficit that the US has with the EU or many other countries. It’s smart to just keep Trump talking and effectively wait for his attention to shift.

The LNG thing is frankly just fucking smart, because Nordstream 2 is just Putin’s way of bending Europe over its knee, and I suspect the last few months have woken up some people sleeping on that.

And the reality is that the EU just doesn’t import that much soy. China imports like 95 million tons, and the EU 14 million.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #21409 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:36:21 PM »

Quote from: Kara on July 25, 2018, 08:51:22 PM

http://thefayetteadvocate.com/2018/07/25/whistleblower-provides-emails-that-show-stormy-daniels-arrest-was-pre-planned/

What a valuable use of taxpayer resources.

Kara · « **Reply #21410 on:** July 25, 2018, 09:50:10 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on July 25, 2018, 09:36:21 PM

Quote from: Kara on July 25, 2018, 08:51:22 PM
http://thefayetteadvocate.com/2018/07/25/whistleblower-provides-emails-that-show-stormy-daniels-arrest-was-pre-planned/

What a valuable use of taxpayer resources.

Trafficking is a serious crime and I'm glad our men, women, and persons who don't conform to the gender binary in uniform are there to combat it by arresting persons for whom there is substantial circumstantial evidence of not having been trafficked.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #21411 on:** July 26, 2018, 08:44:46 AM »

He's not trying to impede Mueller hard enough.

Trurl · « **Reply #21412 on:** July 26, 2018, 08:45:58 AM »

Quote from: Shostakovich on July 26, 2018, 08:40:42 AM

wait why are they trying to impeach rod

I don't know about the stated reasons. Something to do with not honoring a subpoena? I assume that Jim Jordan started this to impress Trump while Jordan is in the middle of a diddling scandal.

Kara · « **Reply #21413 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:13:55 AM »

Can we get a word filter for fuckery that changes it to "I am Dutch and I may or may not be passionate about keeping immigrants out of my corporate tax haven with a prime minister."

Mandark · « **Reply #21414 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:19:55 AM »

Dufus: There was a story that Mueller was planning to release a report on obstruction of justice related stuff in June or July, then another report on Russia-related shenanigans later. This was in the context of saying Trump wasn't a "criminal subject" of the probe, and the negotiations about having him answer questions.

Thing is, it was clear from the story that all of the sources were on the Trump side of things (ie "sources say Mueller informed Trump's legal team of his intent to..."), so everything has to be taken with an extra grain of salt.

Personally I don't expect anything that dramatic out of Mueller before the midterms, but really I have no idea.

kingv · « **Reply #21415 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:36:02 AM »

I’m surprised Emmet Flood hasn’t quit.

Like this dude is a serious lawyer who helped Clinton in his impeachment proceedings. And now he’s working for Giuliani?!

Brehvolution · « **Reply #21416 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:50:40 AM »

Quote from: Shostakovich on July 26, 2018, 08:40:42 AM

wait why are they trying to impeach rod

It's not legally binding. Just more of a show for people who watch fox news.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #21417 on:** July 26, 2018, 11:02:23 AM »

https://twitter.com/gin_and_tacos/status/1022187177344688128

agrajag · « **Reply #21418 on:** July 26, 2018, 11:47:09 AM »

I'm wondering, is this dumb Rod Rosenstein impeachment thing supposed to give Trump cover/signal to fire him? They are giving him a "reason" (Rosenstein ignored the congressional subpoena) and also lets him know that he will not be punished for firing him.

Mandark · « **Reply #21419 on:** July 26, 2018, 11:52:46 AM »

Yeah, people have been predicting that for a while (the idea was they requested documents that the FBI obviously wouldn't hand over, just to set this up), but it doesn't seem to have much traction right now.

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Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 7214823 times)