Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 7088529 times)

benjipwns · « **Reply #30900 on:** March 07, 2019, 01:10:52 PM »

Bret Stephens cribbing off Marco Rubio's paper: Ilhan Omar Knows Exactly What She Is Doing

Nintex · « **Reply #30901 on:** March 07, 2019, 01:14:58 PM »

David Duke supports Omar. I have to say her 4D chess game is on point.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #30902 on:** March 07, 2019, 01:25:21 PM »

Did you know Democrats founded the KKK?

benjipwns · « **Reply #30903 on:** March 07, 2019, 01:49:44 PM »

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The founders were John C. Lester, John B. Kennedy, James R. Crowe, Frank O. McCord, Richard R. Reed, and J. Calvin Jones.

do you think Richard R. Reed was the guy who came up with the name?

Nintex · « **Reply #30904 on:** March 07, 2019, 01:52:52 PM »

Rusell Crowe founded the KKK? Figures.

kingv · « **Reply #30905 on:** March 07, 2019, 02:53:41 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on March 07, 2019, 01:49:44 PM

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The founders were John C. Lester, John B. Kennedy, James R. Crowe, Frank O. McCord, Richard R. Reed, and J. Calvin Jones.
do you think Richard R. Reed was the guy who came up with the name?

No, Richard reed want to call it the KKKK

benjipwns · « **Reply #30906 on:** March 07, 2019, 02:56:37 PM »

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1103707947652313088

agrajag · « **Reply #30907 on:** March 07, 2019, 02:57:33 PM »

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #30908 on:** March 07, 2019, 03:29:13 PM »

Racism is very offensive to me because I'm probably on the verge of having some black friends.

benjipwns · « **Reply #30909 on:** March 07, 2019, 03:31:45 PM »

To be fair, Joe Lieberman makes me cry too sometimes.

Nintex · « **Reply #30910 on:** March 07, 2019, 04:19:18 PM »

https://twitter.com/YahooFinance/status/1103757297254350848

benjipwns · « **Reply #30911 on:** March 07, 2019, 04:28:18 PM »

"Apple Homo"

nachobro · « **Reply #30912 on:** March 07, 2019, 04:29:08 PM »

tim cook can suck my nuts, didn't give us a single free day off after he took over

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #30913 on:** March 07, 2019, 04:39:46 PM »

I knew a guy named Tim Apple. He was a piece of shit.

Kunai With Chain · « **Reply #30914 on:** March 07, 2019, 04:45:55 PM »

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1103388842294472709

You could just see how proud Prince was of his answer to the first question before getting btfo by Mehdi on the follow up

Nintex · « **Reply #30915 on:** March 07, 2019, 05:00:28 PM »

Quote from: Kunai With Chain on March 07, 2019, 04:45:55 PM

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1103388842294472709

You could just see how proud Prince was of his answer to the first question before getting btfo by Mehdi on the follow up

"Hahahaha omg they really got Erik Prince good"

"How so what happened?"

"The Qatari funded propaganda network made a fool out of him in an interview"

"Was that the same Qatari government that backed Bush invading Iraq if he removed Saddam so he wouldn't come back to haunt them"

"Yes"

"The same Erik Prince that probably had his private army kill a journalist or two and wrote it down as "collateral damage"? "

"Yeah, that guy!"

"Hahhaha ow wow, Erik Prince will never recover from that"

Mandark · « **Reply #30916 on:** March 07, 2019, 05:05:11 PM »

get butthurt on behalf of eric prince, brehs

Kunai With Chain · « **Reply #30917 on:** March 07, 2019, 05:15:13 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on March 07, 2019, 05:00:28 PM

Quote from: Kunai With Chain on March 07, 2019, 04:45:55 PM
https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1103388842294472709

You could just see how proud Prince was of his answer to the first question before getting btfo by Mehdi on the follow up
"Hahahaha omg they really got Erik Prince good"

"How so what happened?"

"The Qatari funded propaganda network made a fool out of him in an interview"

"Was that the same Qatari government that backed Bush invading Iraq if he removed Saddam so he wouldn't come back to haunt them"

"Yes"

"The same Erik Prince that probably had his private army kill a journalist or two and wrote it down as "collateral damage"? "

"Yeah, that guy!"

"Hahhaha ow wow, Erik Prince will never recover from that"

Who cares if it's Qatari funded, Al-Jazeera English is as reputable if not more so than pretty much most other news outlet including trash like BBC. If you are going to cry about this shit then I hope you are at least going to be consistent next time you link to news outlet they better not have shilled for a government. Even if you had a point about Al-Jazeera, Mehdi Hassan is legit anyway.

benjipwns · « **Reply #30918 on:** March 07, 2019, 05:17:03 PM »

Nintex prefers to link to only the best journalistic sources on Twitter.

Nintex · « **Reply #30919 on:** March 07, 2019, 05:50:33 PM »

Quote from: Kunai With Chain on March 07, 2019, 05:15:13 PM

Who cares if it's Qatari funded, Al-Jazeera English is as reputable if not more so than pretty much most other news outlet including trash like BBC. If you are going to cry about this shit then I hope you are at least going to be consistent next time you link to news outlet they better not have shilled for a government. Even if you had a point about Al-Jazeera, Mehdi Hassan is legit anyway.

Al Jazeera's reporting is way more dangerous and harmful than Russia Today's amateur hour fringe fiction.
They're not reputable. They're a mouthpiece of the Muslim Brotherhood and their Qatari masters.

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Who cares if it's Qatari funded,

Say the same people who throw a hissy fit if Russians buy a Facebook ad.

Kunai With Chain · « **Reply #30920 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:01:41 PM »

That's Al-Jazeera Arabic, Al-Jazeera international took the same pro-rebel stance as all the other western media outlet. RT is more comparable to VOA where it's a tool of the state to promote their foreign policy agenda, whereas Qatar is too insignificant for Al-Jazeera to bother doing propaganda for outside of their Arabic channels.

Nintex · « **Reply #30921 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:17:03 PM »

Quote from: Kunai With Chain on March 07, 2019, 06:01:41 PM

That's Al-Jazeera Arabic, Al-Jazeera international took the same pro-rebel stance as all the other western media outlet. RT is more comparable to VOA where it's a tool of the state to promote their foreign policy agenda, whereas Qatar is too insignificant for Al-Jazeera to bother doing propaganda for outside of their Arabic channels.

They spend billions on a shit channel no one watches that is not commercially viable because it doesn't have a foreign policy goal?

Wat? At least RT makes money.

Mandark · « **Reply #30922 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:17:39 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on March 07, 2019, 05:17:03 PM

Nintex prefers to link to only the best journalistic sources on Twitter.

It's true, if you can't trust an MEK propaganda account that's hashtagging Qanon, who can you trust?

Nintex · « **Reply #30923 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:18:11 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 07, 2019, 06:17:39 PM

Quote from: benjipwns on March 07, 2019, 05:17:03 PM
Nintex prefers to link to only the best journalistic sources on Twitter.

It's true, if you can't trust an MEK propaganda account that's hashtagging Qanon, who can you trust?

You tell me marrec.

Kunai With Chain · « **Reply #30924 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:24:12 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on March 07, 2019, 06:17:03 PM

Quote from: Kunai With Chain on March 07, 2019, 06:01:41 PM
That's Al-Jazeera Arabic, Al-Jazeera international took the same pro-rebel stance as all the other western media outlet. RT is more comparable to VOA where it's a tool of the state to promote their foreign policy agenda, whereas Qatar is too insignificant for Al-Jazeera to bother doing propaganda for outside of their Arabic channels.
They spend billions on a shit channel no one watches that is not commercially viable because it doesn't have a foreign policy goal?

Wat? At least RT makes money.

Pretty sure all those shit channels are pretty popular with the Arabs. Even with MBS and co. banning them. I really doubt they spend billions on Al-Jazeera English though. Also didn't realise the primary purpose of a news outlet was to make profit for the investors. How much is BBC World News making?

Mandark · « **Reply #30925 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:28:09 PM »

also p sure that saying al-jazeera was propaganda in favor of the iraq war is a lie

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #30926 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:30:49 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 07, 2019, 06:28:09 PM

also p sure that saying al-jazeera was propaganda in favor of the iraq war is a lie

Nintex can produce a two page theoretical conversation between Al-Jazeera executives and Donald Rumsfeld that backs up his claim.

benjipwns · « **Reply #30927 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:39:06 PM »

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On 1 April 2003, a United States plane fired on Al Jazeera's Baghdad bureau, killing reporter Tareq Ayyoub

whoops

kingv · « **Reply #30928 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:39:13 PM »

I pretty clearly remember half of America calling Al Jazeera terrorist news through like 2005 primarily because it didn’t fully endorse American military actions

Nintex · « **Reply #30929 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:43:22 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 07, 2019, 06:28:09 PM

also p sure that saying al-jazeera was propaganda in favor of the iraq war is a lie

I never said that. I said the Qatari government supported the Iraq war and that is true.
The US basically used their country as an airfield for the operation.

Al Jazeera sang a different tune. Always inciting conflict.

benjipwns · « **Reply #30930 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:46:31 PM »

you didn't say it, it was just implied, but looking at your post I do have a further question

Quote from: Nintex

"Was that the same Qatari government that backed Bush invading Iraq if he removed Saddam so he wouldn't come back to haunt them"

why would Qatar fear Saddam Hussein "coming back to haunt them"?

Steve Contra · « **Reply #30931 on:** March 07, 2019, 06:49:57 PM »

yeah if they were worried about being haunted they would definitely keep him alive for as long as possible

Mandark · « **Reply #30932 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:08:18 PM »

you brought up qatar's position on the iraq war specifically to discredit al jazeera

to protect eric prince's feelings for some reason

Nintex · « **Reply #30933 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:12:22 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 07, 2019, 07:08:18 PM

you brought up qatar's position on the iraq war specifically to discredit al jazeera

to protect eric prince's feelings for some reason

No, that's not what I did at all. I just find it sad that all they can do is make fun of a war criminal they themselves enabled and make it look like they scored points.

FStop7 · « **Reply #30934 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:15:45 PM »

Manafort.

Mandark · « **Reply #30935 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:17:00 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on March 07, 2019, 07:12:22 PM

No, that's not what I did at all. I just find it sad that all they can do is make fun of a war criminal they themselves enabled and make it look like they scored points.

yes you did

why constantly lie about shit we can all see when nobody ever believes you anyway? even in the the context of posting about politics in a tiny splinter forum, that stands out as uniquely pointless

Nintex · « **Reply #30936 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:19:13 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 07, 2019, 07:17:00 PM

Quote from: Nintex on March 07, 2019, 07:12:22 PM
No, that's not what I did at all. I just find it sad that all they can do is make fun of a war criminal they themselves enabled and make it look like they scored points.

yes you did

why constantly lie about shit we can all see when nobody ever believes you anyway? even in the the context of posting about politics in a tiny splinter forum, that stands out as uniquely pointless

Yes: you brought up qatar's position on the iraq war specifically to discredit al jazeera
No: to protect eric prince's feelings for some reason

Anyhow Manafort is out in 12 months. Justice has prevailed.

Nola · « **Reply #30937 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:20:30 PM »

47 months for this blood money ratfucker and a judge that called the guidelines “excessive” and his behavior otherwise upstanding.

Meanwhile we have pot heads doing life....This fucking country sometimes

Mandark · « **Reply #30938 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:22:34 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on March 07, 2019, 07:12:22 PM

No, that's not what I did at all. I just find it sad that all they can do is make fun of a war criminal they themselves enabled and make it look like they scored points.

lmao you just denied ever saying al jazeera supported the iraq war

how the fuck can you not keep track of shit you said when we're not even on a new page yet?

curly · « **Reply #30939 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:24:01 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on March 07, 2019, 06:46:31 PM

you didn't say it, it was just implied, but looking at your post I do have a further question
Quote from: Nintex
"Was that the same Qatari government that backed Bush invading Iraq if he removed Saddam so he wouldn't come back to haunt them"
why would Qatar fear Saddam Hussein "coming back to haunt them"?

Feeling like Nintex confused Qatar and Kuwait. Tthe only source I can find on Qatar's position pre-invasion was they opposed it because it would destabilize the region but would consider allowing the US military to use their territory if it did happen, which was probably a foregone conclusion considering we already had an air force base there and how much they depend on remaining in our good graces.

Nintex · « **Reply #30940 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:24:35 PM »

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1103807390363930624

https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1103803882642255875

benjipwns · « **Reply #30941 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:29:38 PM »

yeah, what was Qatar going to do, kick out the U.S. Middle East Command over the dude none of them particularly liked anyway

Mandark · « **Reply #30942 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:32:55 PM »

IIRC "opposed to the war but getting on board when they realized Bush was going through with it" was the position of several countries in the region, including Israel (who were more worried about counterbalancing Iran).

Mandark · « **Reply #30943 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:34:07 PM »

benji, it saddens me to say that your analysis of judge Ellis as trying to keep the prosecutors focused so they could better argue the case is now officially a Bad Take.

benjipwns · « **Reply #30944 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:34:40 PM »

Saudi Arabia basically looked the other way while we violated their air space after they didn't give official permission like in the Gulf War

Nintex · « **Reply #30945 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:37:21 PM »

https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1103814235405062146

benjipwns · « **Reply #30946 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:40:16 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 07, 2019, 07:34:07 PM

benji, it saddens me to say that your analysis of judge Ellis as trying to keep the prosecutors focused so they could better argue the case is now officially a Bad Take.

no no, i never said that, i said that Judge Ellis was trying to end the Iraq War

Nintex · « **Reply #30947 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:45:17 PM »

Ah well, time for Trump to pardon Manafort and Stone and put them on the cabinet where they belong.

Rufus · « **Reply #30948 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:48:45 PM »

Quote from: Nola on March 07, 2019, 07:20:30 PM

47 months for this blood money ratfucker and a judge that called the guidelines “excessive” and his behavior otherwise upstanding.

Meanwhile we have pot heads doing life....This fucking country sometimes

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1103809442527698944

(thread, jic)

Mandark · « **Reply #30949 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:50:27 PM »

The judge talking about how Manafort was living a "blameless" life outside of all the crimes is sure something.

benjipwns · « **Reply #30950 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:51:23 PM »

well i mean technically outside of the many many near endless amount of crimes he committed he didn't do anything wrong legally

james · « **Reply #30951 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:54:17 PM »

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“He’s lived an otherwise blameless life,” Ellis said. The judged noted Manafort has no past criminal history and “earned the admiration of a number of people” who wrote letters to the court support Manafort.

T. S. Ellis III
Appointed by Ronald Reagan

LOL and some of you sad little optimists think Trump will be held responsible for anything at all.

https://twitter.com/thelauracoates/status/1103811277942591488

Mandark · « **Reply #30952 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:56:41 PM »

Quote from: Stro on March 07, 2019, 07:54:31 PM

Manafort was forced into prostitution by an abusive pimp, you can't hold him responsible for that

Reminds me that Manafort forced/pressured his wife to have sex with other guys, which is pretty yikes.jpg

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #30953 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:57:30 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 07, 2019, 07:50:27 PM

The judge talking about how Manafort was living a "blameless" life outside of all the crimes is sure something.

I mean, sure, he did commit all these crimes, but if you set those aside, he's basically an angel.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #30954 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:58:24 PM »

I’m fucking livid

benjipwns · « **Reply #30955 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:59:27 PM »

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FYI in 2018, #JudgeEllis sentenced Frederick Turner, 37, to a mandatory minimum of 40 years in prison for dealing methamphetamine: "I chafe a bit at that, but I follow the law. If I thought it was blatantly immoral, I'd have to resign. It's wrong, but not immoral." #PaulManafort

that's an argument against mandatory minimums though, not this specific judge

kingv · « **Reply #30956 on:** March 07, 2019, 08:02:04 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 07, 2019, 07:56:41 PM

Quote from: Stro on March 07, 2019, 07:54:31 PM
Manafort was forced into prostitution by an abusive pimp, you can't hold him responsible for that

Reminds me that Manafort forced/pressured his wife to have sex with other guys, which is pretty yikes.jpg

*disabled* wife, btw

benjipwns · « **Reply #30957 on:** March 07, 2019, 08:02:43 PM »

did he disable her?

tell me he at least pulled a Gingrich and dumped her after she got disabled

james · « **Reply #30958 on:** March 07, 2019, 08:03:23 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on March 07, 2019, 07:59:27 PM

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FYI in 2018, #JudgeEllis sentenced Frederick Turner, 37, to a mandatory minimum of 40 years in prison for dealing methamphetamine: "I chafe a bit at that, but I follow the law. If I thought it was blatantly immoral, I'd have to resign. It's wrong, but not immoral." #PaulManafort
that's an argument against mandatory minimums though, not this specific judge

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Manafort had faced up to 24 years in prison under federal sentencing guidelines, but U.S. District Court Judge T.S. Ellis called that calculation “excessive” and sentenced him instead to 47 months.

benjipwns · « **Reply #30959 on:** March 07, 2019, 08:04:43 PM »

wow, he lobbied for Mobutu Sese Seko, nice

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