US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Nola]

Compare the major candidates through the histories of the party (Gary Hart, Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Beto) and it's much more pronounced in the Democrat party.

It's the party of old white men looking out for other old white men. Which means by extension it's going to be populated mostly with.... old white men.

But I don't think superficiality is in any way exclusive to one party. One only needs to look at Fox News's bimbos, most right wing media outlets, or any conservative messageboard to see how important superficial characteristics are to conservative audiences. I mean half the Trump memes are fanfic about making him look more masculine and conservatives go-to attack on female Dems is almost always misogynistic digs around looks.

[benjipwns]

Adelson didn't just personally bankroll Newt but paid for a 28-minute video hit piece on Romney, which used the same line of attack (ruthless corporate raider who trampled the little guy) that Obama's campaign did later.

Yet another example of Bernie/Hillary being kid gloves.

Ron Paul's 2012 primary ads were the last great "shots fired" primary ads. Romney was saving all his money, nobody else had any to do them. And the Paul campaign held back from too much libertarian stuff to just take shots at them from a conservative POV.

@Perry:

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@Newt:

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@Newt/Santorum/"Romney":

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Plus they had all the goofy film trailer ones, those ones had more standard Paul views in them but still were sorta focused on going after his opponents:

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I know, I know, they're still my top favorite Presidential primary level ones which are often pretty shitty, gotta drop down to the state level usually for things to start getting bitter or absurd or "I'm not a witch" type amazing. Paul benefited from retiring and not really having an issue with going scorched earth on dudes he hated like Newt anyway.

Plus it worked! These were the ones he was dumping all over Iowa, that he managed to win!

[james]

I could not be more excited. Other than Obama, I've never been more impressed with a particular candidate in my 20 years of voting. 

Why?

I don't need a signature policy issue yet. I don't want lip service and unlikely to be fulfilled promises. I want a dreamer that sees the world through particular lens and will make decisions based on that vision. Policy decisions often times have to be made with compromise and nuance based on the moment. 

Beto is inspirational on a large scale level. 

Bernie is inspirational strictly to his base. 

Biden brings zero excitement. 

No one else likely stands a chance, but I do like Kamala. I think she'd be perfect on a ticket with Beto.

[shosta]

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1106225960523837440

[benjipwns]

I've never been more impressed with a particular candidate in my 20 years of voting.

Why?

I don't want lip service and unlikely to be fulfilled promises.

...

Beto is inspirational on a large scale level.

For when George W. Bush's background is too impressive, DUI and all: Robert Francis O'Rourke.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Beto's opponent for senate was a dude who has zero friends, ate a booger or something on tv, elbowed his wife off the stage, and whose own kids didn't want to be around him....and he still lost. Beto got no chance at all.

This guy fucks.

[nachobro]

MCU fans: manbabies.

Potential Beto fans: manbabies.

Checks out 

CAN'T WAIT TO VOTE FOR BETA BETO

[Joe Molotov]

You can tell that Beto is the new, improved Hillary because BernieBros are already out in the full force in this thread tearing him down. And by BernieBros, I mean literal Nazis.

[shosta]

Remember when Beto called Cruz "Lyin' Ted"? Remember when he went on a road trip with Will Hurd (R) which helped undermine Hurd's opponent?

[CatsCatsCats]

Also, because Jack said positive things about him

[Nintex]

Ít begins
https://twitter.com/jeffmason1/status/1106208346862964738

[nachobro]

Crazy Beto

[ToxicAdam]

You can tell that Beto is the new, improved Hillary because BernieBros are already out in the full force in this thread tearing him down. And by BernieBros, I mean literal Nazis.

This is how I like my political talk.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

You can tell that Beto is the new, improved Hillary because BernieBros are already out in the full force in this thread tearing him down. And by BernieBros, I mean literal Nazis.

Also cause he looks like a phoney.

[benjipwns]

The Senate voted to overturn President Donald Trump's national emergency declaration, delivering a harsh rebuke to the president from both sides of the aisle.

In a 59-41 vote, the Senate approved a House-passed resolution to block Trump from unilaterally funding his border wall over congressional objections.

Twelve Republicans bucked Trump and voted with Democrats. Trump has vowed to veto the legislation — the first of his presidency.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1106254450501529600

 

Twelve Republicans bfucked Trump and voted with Democrats. Trump has vowed to veto the legislation — the first of his presidency.

fixed


If Beto wins the nomination south park is real and you'll literally have an election between a Douche (Beto) and a Turd Sandwhich(Trump).
To prevent that from happening join the #yanggang

[Cauliflower Of Love]

jfc

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1106254450501529600

[Nintex]

Meanwhile in the White House Trump vetoes a bill over Twitter
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1106272915488686080

[Cauliflower Of Love]

jfc

[Cauliflower Of Love]

wait, this is trumps first veto?

[CatsCatsCats]

I DECLARE... VETO!!!! Michaelscott.gif

[benjipwns]

Not dropping vetoes has been fairly common this century.

George W. Bush didn't issue a veto in his first term. And only one before the Democrats took over the House. 12 total. He was overriden four times.

Obama also had 12 total, two in his first term, both when the Democrats were in power in Congress. He then waited until 2015 before starting up again. Only his last veto was overturned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Against_Sponsors_of_Terrorism_Act

H.W. Bush had 44 vetoes, only one overriden, in his single term.

[Joe Molotov]

wait, this is trumps first veto?

ya

[stufte]

VETO!

[Cauliflower Of Love]

wait, this is trumps first veto?

ya

he really is a pussy

[TakingBackSunday]

Why exactly are people hating on Beto here?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Why exactly are people hating on Beto here?

Dude lost to ted cruz.

There's no comeback from that.

[curly]

Anyone want to talk about how there is a large contigent of Democrat voters that strictly vote on appearance alone? Like someone casting a new Netflix serial called The President, they want their candidate to "look" young and pretty like they have been conditioned?

Someone like Sherrod Brown, who has done all the work and has all the credentials gets no buzz, but this guy Beto O'Rourke who hasn't done shit, never won a major election and has barely been vetted gets to skate to the front of the line.


I suppose it's the ghost of JFK, in the same way Republicans chase the ghost of Reagan.

Dems have a self-image as the party of reinvention and progress, and the neatest avatar of that is a youthful looking handsome dude. Because national politics is 90% about image since some unspecified date you get these candidates that are empty on the interior but project a nice image.

[ToxicAdam]

Why exactly are people hating on Beto here?

Who is specifically hating on him? I looked back on the last few pages and didn't see anything that stood out.

There's just deserved skepticism that a guy who's never actually won a significant election can carry (the party).

[shosta]

Why exactly are people hating on Beto here?

He's just a goofy mofo. I don't hate him, he's the same as any other dem.

[ToxicAdam]

 "I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad,” Trump said.

[TakingBackSunday]

Why exactly are people hating on Beto here?

Dude lost to ted cruz.

There's no comeback from that.

No one wouldn't won that seat.

[benjipwns]

Who is specifically hating on him? I looked back on the last few pages and didn't see anything that stood out.

I did call him the candidate for people who found George W. Bush's background to be too impressive.

Though I doubt TBS considers me a legitimate poster.

[Joe Molotov]

"I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad,” Trump said.

Sorry, Bikers for Trump are backing Yang now.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Why exactly are people hating on Beto here?

Dude lost to ted cruz.

There's no comeback from that.

No one wouldn't won that seat.

spell check this.

[benjipwns]

No one wouldn't won that seat.

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Spelling is fine.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

No one wouldn't won that seat.

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there's a have missing.

[james]

No one wouldn't won that seat.

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Spelling is fine.

there's a have missing.

Thats not a spelling error 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

No one wouldn't won that seat.

spell check this.

Spelling is fine.

there's a have missing.

Thats not a spelling error 

Fucking kelsey grammer.

[kingv]

I could not be more excited. Other than Obama, I've never been more impressed with a particular candidate in my 20 years of voting.

Why?

I don't need a signature policy issue yet. I don't want lip service and unlikely to be fulfilled promises. I want a dreamer that sees the world through particular lens and will make decisions based on that vision. Policy decisions often times have to be made with compromise and nuance based on the moment.

Beto is inspirational on a large scale level.

Bernie is inspirational strictly to his base.

Biden brings zero excitement.

No one else likely stands a chance, but I do like Kamala. I think she'd be perfect on a ticket with Beto.

I can’t tell if this is 100% serious or amazing satire.

[benjipwns]

I can’t tell if this is 100% serious or amazing satire.

The ResetERA.com user says it is serious:

is this satire

Not in the least.

[benjipwns]

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/59xaak/the-southern-poverty-law-center-just-fired-its-co-founder

The SPLC, which closely tracks hate groups, fired the 82-year-old co-founder and former chief litigator Morris Dees yesterday, according to the Montgomery Advertiser. He helped create the Alabama-based organization in 1971.

In an email to VICE News, an SPLC spokesperson declined to elaborate on “individual personnel decisions.”

“As a civil rights organization, the SPLC is committed to ensuring that the conduct of our staff reflects the mission of the organization and the values we hope to instill in the world. When one of our own fails to meet those standards, no matter his or her role in the organization, we take it seriously and must take appropriate action,” SPLC President Richard Cohen said in a statement.

The SPLC said it will bring in an “outside organization to conduct a comprehensive assessment of our internal climate and workplace practices.”

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1106199218245566465

this dude

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Why exactly are people hating on Beto here?

He clearly has no interest in being president, he just wants to build momentum early for his 2020 senate run.

[Nintex]

The GOP is left with nothing. Trumps political revolution is dying and no one is doing anything to revive it. Instead he's turning more and more in 'Generic Republican' with no original ideas and no big changes to pursue.

They jumped on the 'own the libs' bandwagon that was hip and cool like parents jumped on Facebook when their kids started leaving.
Their best hope is that the Democrats keep fucking up with the anti-semitic stuff or that Trump finds new energy fighting his 2020 opponents and campaigning.
Otherwise they'll be wrecked over the next two years.

Because nobody on this planet cares if Michael Cohen lied in his TV appearance or not.
When they stick with Trump they at least have 'something' but if 12 of them rebel against his emergency declaration but they don't drop his support for him they find themselves with no position and no message.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Why exactly are people hating on Beto here?

He clearly has no interest in being president, he just wants to build momentum early for his 2020 senate run.

and he wants $$$

[FStop7]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2019-ot3-my-name-is-paul-manafort-and-i-fucking-love-crimes-and-the-judge-respects-that.101959/page-177#post-18855575

Bernie is the only one with the cult fanbase that attacks everyone that joins the race

Yeah the past 11 years of Yas Queen nutters was imaginary 

[benjipwns]

no garbage in the lesser garbage thread

i only linked to confirm the quoted guy was serious with it

[benjipwns]

I want Beto to win now just to annoy y'all

You left off the part where Trump beats him.

[team filler]

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/03/beto-orourke-is-the-candidate-for-vapid-morons.html

[TakingBackSunday]

That dudes a fucking hardcore Bernie bro

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/1105990082131968000

https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/1106288728195002368

This is great.

[team filler]

I want Beto to win now just to annoy y'all

You left off the part where Trump beats him.

[team filler]

That dudes a fucking hardcore Bernie bro

[benjipwns]

This is great.

oh my god that music

[benjipwns]

that fucking single drum strike

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1106185918107521024

[Joe Molotov]

This is great.

oh my god that music

It reminds me of that NatGeo show that Rifftrax riffed on, where the guy is looking for giant killer bats or a yeti.

"The GIANT DEMON BAT..."
*music swells*
"could be right AROUND THIS CORNER!"
*tension sting*
"Oh, well it wasn't. Okay, on to the next location."

[benjipwns]

Does Paste Magazine just publish anything? America Preferring Beto Over Stacey Abrams Tells You All You Need to Know About America

But still, the optics of this really, really, suck. A charismatic white man who lost in high-profile fashion in a major state in 2018 is currently polling at six percent while getting fawning media coverage as he says things like “I’m just born to be in it.” Meanwhile, a charismatic black woman who lost* in high-profile fashion in a major state in 2018 (and who got a high-profile gig in 2019) is also fighting for real, tangible justice (that is being covered as a secondary issue at best)—and yet she can’t even make it on to a 23-person ballot alongside absolute 2020 nobodies like Terry McAulliffe, Steve Bullock, Jim Henderson, Michael Bennett, John Delaney and Michael Wilson (I only made up two of those names).

This is exasperating. I can’t find a way to end this column with a coherent concluding thought, let alone one better than Childish Gambino. He said it best: This is America.

Although I'd love it if her*, Robert Francis and Andrew Gillum** all run for President coming off 2018 defeats. This could be a great new thing.

*
https://twitter.com/staceyabrams/status/1105192554302103552

**Has "major announcement" scheduled for the 20th.

The mayor of Miramar, Florida has also launched a campaign: http://www.waynemessam.com/