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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #39000 on:** August 05, 2019, 04:06:37 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on August 05, 2019, 01:09:26 PM

https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1158388475688886274

Both proposals are equally pointless, the first because it won't solve the problem and the second because Republicans will never support it.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #39001 on:** August 05, 2019, 04:28:45 PM »

Seriously though, maybe there should be an upper age limit for presidency

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #39002 on:** August 05, 2019, 04:32:47 PM »

Presidency? All of congress and supreme court, also.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #39003 on:** August 05, 2019, 04:32:50 PM »

And yet the gun is what did the killing. Don't @ me with cars and knives BS.

How many video games were found on the assailants? What game was used in the murder? What games were present in the autopsy?

Everything is to blame except the actual tool used for the killing. The tool of choice in every mass murder isn't to blame?

FOH

james · « **Reply #39004 on:** August 05, 2019, 04:46:04 PM »

Quote from: Brehvolution on August 05, 2019, 04:32:50 PM

And yet the gun is what did the killing. Don't @ me with cars and knives BS.

How many video games were found on the assailants? What game was used in the murder? What games were present in the autopsy?

Everything is to blame except the actual tool used for the killing. The tool of choice in every mass murder isn't to blame?

FOH

Hitler never operated the gas chambers, so I guess hes innocent.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #39005 on:** August 05, 2019, 04:48:51 PM »

I love how this country has laws where someone can be charged with manslaughter if they allow a drunken person to leave their business (and they kill someone).

But, if a family member takes your unlocked guns and shoots up a school or a mall .. or if a toddler blows their own face off .... "Woah! It was just a horrible accident!"

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #39006 on:** August 05, 2019, 04:51:26 PM »

@ing brehvos

Cars are actually a good parallel, because when it was realized that cars were slaughtering people left and right, regulations got put into place asap.

james · « **Reply #39007 on:** August 05, 2019, 04:53:02 PM »

Quote from: Cauliflower Of Love on August 05, 2019, 04:51:26 PM

@ing brehvos

Cars are actually a good parallel, because when it was realized that cars were slaughtering people left and right, regulations got put into place asap.

You mean the car lobby spent a lot of money to put laws in place to avoid any and all blame

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #39008 on:** August 05, 2019, 04:56:42 PM »

Quote from: james on August 05, 2019, 04:53:02 PM

Quote from: Cauliflower Of Love on August 05, 2019, 04:51:26 PM
@ing brehvos

Cars are actually a good parallel, because when it was realized that cars were slaughtering people left and right, regulations got put into place asap.

You mean the car lobby spent a lot of money to put laws in place to avoid any and all blame

No, I mean how seatbelts and crumple zones became a thing.

james · « **Reply #39009 on:** August 05, 2019, 05:00:56 PM »

Quote from: Cauliflower Of Love on August 05, 2019, 04:56:42 PM

Quote from: james on August 05, 2019, 04:53:02 PM
Quote from: Cauliflower Of Love on August 05, 2019, 04:51:26 PM
@ing brehvos

Cars are actually a good parallel, because when it was realized that cars were slaughtering people left and right, regulations got put into place asap.

You mean the car lobby spent a lot of money to put laws in place to avoid any and all blame

No, I mean how seatbelts and crumple zones became a thing.

LOL honey no.

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Twenty years ago, an out-of-control driver plowed through New York’s Washington Square Park, killing 5 people and injuring 27 others. That horrific incident caused a public outcry and galvanized advocates in what has become known as the livable streets movement. But the driver, a 74-year-old woman, was not charged with any crime.

It wasn’t always like this. Browse through New York Times accounts of pedestrians dying after being struck by automobiles prior to 1930, and you’ll see that in nearly every case, the driver is charged with something like “technical manslaughter.” And it wasn’t just New York. Across the country, drivers were held criminally responsible when they killed or injured people with their vehicles.

So what happened? And when?

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“If a child is struck and killed by a car in 2012, it is treated as a private loss, to be grieved privately by the family,” Norton says. “Before, this stuff was treated as a public loss – much like the death of soldiers.” Mayors dedicated monuments to the victims of traffic crimes, accompanied by marching bands and children dressed in white, carrying flowers.

“We’re talking less about laws than we are about norms,” says Norton. He cites a 1923 editorial from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch – a solidly mainstream institution, as he points out. The paper opined that even in the case of a child darting out into traffic, a driver who disclaimed responsibility was committing “the perjury of a murderer.”

Norton explains that in the automobile’s earliest years, the principles of common law applied to crashes. In the case of a collision, the larger, heavier vehicle was deemed to be at fault. The responsibility for crashes always lay with the driver.

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Auto clubs and manufacturers realized they had a big image problem, Norton says, and they moved aggressively to change the way Americans thought about cars, streets, and traffic. "They said, 'If we’re going to have a future for cars in the city, we have to change that. They’re being portrayed as Satan’s murdering machines.'"

AAA and other auto clubs turned first to the younger generation, financing safety education programs in the public schools that were designed to teach children that streets are for cars, not for kids. They funded safety patrols that taught kids they had to stop for traffic, not the other way around.

One key turning point, according to Norton, came in 1923 in Cincinnati. Citizens’ anger over pedestrian deaths gave rise to a referendum drive. It gathered some 7,000 signatures in support of a rule that would have required all vehicles in the city to be fitted with speed governors limiting them to 25 miles per hour.

Local auto clubs and dealers recognized that cars would be a lot harder to sell if there was a cap on their speed. So they went into overdrive in their campaign against the initiative. They sent letters to every individual with a car in the city, saying that the rule would condemn the U.S. to the fate of China, which they painted as the world’s most backward nation. They even hired pretty women to invite men to head to the polls and vote against the rule. And the measure failed.

They also got Detroit involved. The automakers banded together to help fight the Cincinnati rule, according to Norton. “And they remained organized after that,” he says.

The industry lobbied to change the law, promoting the adoption of traffic statutes to supplant common law. The statutes were designed to restrict pedestrian use of the street and give primacy to cars. The idea of "jaywalking” – a concept that had not really existed prior to 1920 – was enshrined in law.

https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2012/04/invention-jaywalking/1837/

AAA is and was the same as the NRA.

Americans shrug away 40,000 deaths a year because the lobbying worked.

Occam · « **Reply #39010 on:** August 05, 2019, 06:17:06 PM »

Quote from: filler on August 05, 2019, 02:46:32 PM

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1158446086798880770

Nice how everyone is calling him Moscow Mitch now.

Tripon · « **Reply #39011 on:** August 05, 2019, 06:33:18 PM »

https://twitter.com/byHeatherLong/status/1158497194447691777

Nintex · « **Reply #39012 on:** August 05, 2019, 06:38:41 PM »

Most economists agree with Trump that China has lowered the value of their currency to levels that are even dangerous for the Chinese internal markets.
But it is all part of the wider trade war the US and China are fighting. The fact that Trump said something like: "then we don't trade with China" and this:
https://twitter.com/mmcassella/status/1157364389470584833

Put the global economy on edge.

benjipwns · « **Reply #39013 on:** August 05, 2019, 07:17:39 PM »

https://jewishinsider.com/2019/08/neo-nazis-boast-we-got-tulsi-in-the-debates/

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A neo-Nazi website took credit for Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s (D-HI) qualification for the first two Democratic primary debates. The Daily Stormer, a notorious white supremacist and antisemitic website, proclaimed in April “we did it” — after the Hawaii congresswoman reached the 65,000 donor threshold needed to participate in the first two debates.

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The website said it had promoted Gabbard to “make the Jews go nuts” and “trigger the kikes.” Although it did not explicitly support Gabbard’s candidacy, the site said her participation in the debate was an opportunity to “talk about Jews starting all the wars.”

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The Gabbard campaign did not respond to repeated requests for comment from Jewish Insider about whether her campaign was aware of The Daily Stormer’s effort, and if it would return any contributions from neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

Rabbi Abraham Cooper, the associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, told Jewish Insider, “My initial reaction is that this is similar to what white supremacists declared about Trump 4 years ago.” He added “I don’t know anything about her campaign but cannot imagine that any mainstream candidate would seek or accept any ‘support’ from overt Jew haters and racists.”

EightBitNate · « **Reply #39014 on:** August 05, 2019, 07:48:34 PM »

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1155922680194846720

What an anti-Semite

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #39015 on:** August 05, 2019, 07:52:14 PM »

Quote from: EightBitNate on August 05, 2019, 07:48:34 PM

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1155922680194846720

What an anti-Semite

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1155924060414418944

EightBitNate · « **Reply #39016 on:** August 05, 2019, 08:10:09 PM »

My aunt, recounting what she heard about the shootings: there’s this website called 8chinks where all the racist people post

benjipwns · « **Reply #39017 on:** August 05, 2019, 08:46:45 PM »

Quote from: riotous on August 05, 2019, 12:34:01 PM

Second favorite thing was Ron Paul's tactic of stacking delegates or whatever you call it.. which his libertardian friends supported.. hmmmm.. go against the votes of the people and instead take advantage of some loophole, super libertarian.

what's not libertarian about allowing a private corporation to operate its own internal decision making process based on its own rules

benjipwns · « **Reply #39018 on:** August 05, 2019, 09:36:39 PM »

Ohio state representative speaks truth to power:

Tripon · « **Reply #39019 on:** August 05, 2019, 10:01:34 PM »

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1158546596252061696

Title editors are wild.

Tripon · « **Reply #39020 on:** August 05, 2019, 10:09:46 PM »

https://twitter.com/vmsalama/status/1158544633204490241

The U.S. still gets a lot of oil from Venezuela. Better fill up at the gas station for the week as soon as you can.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #39021 on:** August 05, 2019, 10:37:37 PM »

The New York Times is not sending their best.

Tripon · « **Reply #39022 on:** August 05, 2019, 11:37:35 PM »

Quote from: shosta on August 05, 2019, 11:11:08 PM

Quote from: Tripon on August 05, 2019, 10:09:46 PM
The U.S. still gets a lot of oil from Venezuela. Better fill up at the gas station for the week as soon as you can.
That hasn't been true all year.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/21/business/venezuela-oil-imports-united-states/index.html

Hmm, didn't realize the feds decided to target Oil reserves as well. Wasn't paying attention to it.

benjipwns · « **Reply #39023 on:** August 05, 2019, 11:43:14 PM »

who wants their commie oil anyway, it probably gets way less miles to the gallon, plus you have to stop and slaughter some kulaks every hundred miles

benjipwns · « **Reply #39024 on:** August 05, 2019, 11:57:17 PM »

lol that pro-life libertarian dude's logo

agrajag · « **Reply #39025 on:** August 05, 2019, 11:58:21 PM »

Congress person Ted Lieu retweeting Boogie2988

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1158549566515400705

benjipwns · « **Reply #39026 on:** August 06, 2019, 12:02:45 AM »

Lack of thoughts and prayers is to blame:

Quote from: https://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?p=latest-news&id=85D68B53-7B1C-4AC2-91B1-6E004ACFC6AE&s=510Q

Despite all those who are denouncing the idea of prayers for the victims (do a Google search for “Thoughts and prayers are not enough” and see how many hits you get), I will continue to pray for the victims and their families and for an end to this mindless violence, and I hope you will, too. In fact, amid all the finger-pointing and blame-laying and repulsive attempts to turn these tragedies to political advantage before the bodies are even cold, I would posit that the lack of thought and prayers is probably the single biggest factor in what is behind them.

Tripon · « **Reply #39027 on:** August 06, 2019, 12:21:11 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on August 05, 2019, 11:58:21 PM

Congress person Ted Lieu retweeting Boogie2988

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1158549566515400705

He's my congressman now since I moved.

Tripon · « **Reply #39028 on:** August 06, 2019, 12:35:38 AM »

In 2014, Marianne Williamson ran for Congressional District 33 against Ted Lieu and lost.

VomKriege · « **Reply #39029 on:** August 06, 2019, 12:49:41 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on August 05, 2019, 11:57:17 PM

lol that pro-life libertarian dude's logo

(Image removed from quote.)

Librarians don't believe in copyright ?

headwalk · « **Reply #39030 on:** August 06, 2019, 07:30:19 AM »

GAMERS ARE UNDER ATTACK

CHOOSE A SIDE

Nintex · « **Reply #39031 on:** August 06, 2019, 08:21:47 AM »

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1157879472567095296

Sure you can

I suggest bombing the White House, Trump Tower and the Mar-a-Lago.
If you're lucky the sons are there.
State broadcaster Fox News should also be on your target list.

Also don't forget to disband the army when you have won.

james · « **Reply #39032 on:** August 06, 2019, 08:59:42 AM »

Nintex, welcome to the list

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #39033 on:** August 06, 2019, 09:06:54 AM »

Nintex has been on every list for a long time.

Nintex · « **Reply #39034 on:** August 06, 2019, 09:58:31 AM »

If you are not on a list you don't exist

Brehvolution · « **Reply #39035 on:** August 06, 2019, 10:00:00 AM »

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Can't spell "hatred" without "red hat".

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #39036 on:** August 06, 2019, 10:11:30 AM »

I love how Obama can break trumps mind without even uttering his name:

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“‘Did George Bush ever condemn President Obama after Sandy Hook. President Obama had 32 mass shootings during his reign. Not many people said Obama is out of Control,'” Trump wrote online. “'Mass shootings were happening before the President even thought about running for Pres.' @kilmeade @foxandfriends”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/06/trump-attacks-obama-shootings-statement-1448922

Tasty · « **Reply #39037 on:** August 06, 2019, 10:12:13 AM »

Quote from: Brehvolution on August 06, 2019, 10:00:00 AM

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Can't spell "hatred" without "red hat".

I knew that bitch Carmen Sandiego was up to something

Crash Dummy · « **Reply #39038 on:** August 06, 2019, 11:02:18 AM »

Quote from: shosta on August 06, 2019, 12:05:40 AM

how does South Korea consume more video games than the US

but did you know japan has no video games?
https://twitter.com/SassBaller/status/1158030571777515520

Tripon · « **Reply #39039 on:** August 06, 2019, 11:21:34 AM »

Watch CBS try to explain 8chan and 4chan. The guy on the right definitely regularly visits these sites.

Tasty · « **Reply #39040 on:** August 06, 2019, 11:31:34 AM »

https://perchance.org/pgk4gv0c6p

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Yesterday, I announced that, as president, I'll establish a national service program for homeless people who open a Carl's Jr. that operates for 9 months in a red state.

How'd I miss this

james · « **Reply #39041 on:** August 06, 2019, 11:37:46 AM »

Does South Korea have extreme censorship on video games and porn?

Tripon · « **Reply #39042 on:** August 06, 2019, 11:40:10 AM »

Quote from: james on August 06, 2019, 11:37:46 AM

Does South Korea have extreme censorship on video games and porn?

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Despite being one of the world’s most well-connected countries, where an estimated 97% of households had some form of Internet access by 2012, South Korea has some anti-porn laws that would make Rick Santorum proud. Though viewing porn online isn’t completely banned, distribution and possession of hardcore porn have been illegal since 2009, and citizens caught repeatedly trying to view blocked sites run the risk of having their personal computer or smartphone taken away. If a user does take a wrong turn, a website blocked notice will appear in place of the offending site, with the logo of the Korean National Police Agency at the bottom.

Though viewing porn online isn’t completely banned, access is strictly controlled. Users must prove that they are at or over the legal age of consent, which is 19, by going through an age verification page and entering a Resident Registration Number (RRN), the Korean equivalent of an American social security number. (This age verification can be easily duped if a minor knows their parent’s or an older sibling’s RRN.)

https://medium.com/the-establishment/why-is-south-korea-cracking-down-on-porn-28c08984bc89

benjipwns · « **Reply #39043 on:** August 06, 2019, 11:46:34 AM »

no need to wait for Kamala!

Quote from: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/05/trump-executive-action-guns-1448612

Trump explores executive action on guns
The president and his aides are seeking options to address gun violence that would circumvent Congress.

President Donald Trump is exploring ways to use regulatory power and executive action to curb gun violence after a pair of deadly shootings over the weekend — a move driven by his aides’ belief that Congress is incapable of coalescing around consensus legislation in a heated 2020 election cycle.

White House officials on Monday said Trump and U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr are “resolved” to take action after the shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio. The administration is exploring solutions “that actually make an impact,” as opposed to “things that feel good,” one Trump aide said.

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“Any action will likely be executive instead of legislative,” said one congressional aide, noting that Barr has long been a supporter of stricter gun laws.

Barr’s track record of statements about gun control caused some gun rights groups to oppose his nomination for attorney general, arguing at the time of his Senate confirmation hearing that he backed confiscation orders and gave ambiguous responses when asked whether he would support a nationwide ban on semi-automatic firearms.

“He would be a disaster for the Second Amendment,” Gun Owners of America, a pro-gun nonprofit, wrote weeks before Barr’s confirmation vote in February.

A second administration official said Trump has “tremendous respect” for Barr and is looking to him for counsel. It’s no coincidence, the official said, that Trump specifically mentioned Extreme Risk Protection Orders, or red-flag laws, in his remarks Monday. (Barr told the Senate Judiciary Committee in January that advancing ERPOs was “the single most important” action Congress could take “in the gun control area.”)

Mandark · « **Reply #39044 on:** August 06, 2019, 11:48:28 AM »

Love that someone got granted anonymity to tell us this hypothetical future action will be effective and not symbolic.

james · « **Reply #39045 on:** August 06, 2019, 12:37:44 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on August 06, 2019, 11:46:34 AM

no need to wait for Kamala!

Quote from: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/05/trump-executive-action-guns-1448612
Trump explores executive action on guns
The president and his aides are seeking options to address gun violence that would circumvent Congress.

President Donald Trump is exploring ways to use regulatory power and executive action to curb gun violence after a pair of deadly shootings over the weekend — a move driven by his aides’ belief that Congress is incapable of coalescing around consensus legislation in a heated 2020 election cycle.

White House officials on Monday said Trump and U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr are “resolved” to take action after the shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio. The administration is exploring solutions “that actually make an impact,” as opposed to “things that feel good,” one Trump aide said.

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“Any action will likely be executive instead of legislative,” said one congressional aide, noting that Barr has long been a supporter of stricter gun laws.

Barr’s track record of statements about gun control caused some gun rights groups to oppose his nomination for attorney general, arguing at the time of his Senate confirmation hearing that he backed confiscation orders and gave ambiguous responses when asked whether he would support a nationwide ban on semi-automatic firearms.

“He would be a disaster for the Second Amendment,” Gun Owners of America, a pro-gun nonprofit, wrote weeks before Barr’s confirmation vote in February.

A second administration official said Trump has “tremendous respect” for Barr and is looking to him for counsel. It’s no coincidence, the official said, that Trump specifically mentioned Extreme Risk Protection Orders, or red-flag laws, in his remarks Monday. (Barr told the Senate Judiciary Committee in January that advancing ERPOs was “the single most important” action Congress could take “in the gun control area.”)

Wow King Trump ruling by decree

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #39046 on:** August 06, 2019, 01:02:41 PM »

Poor moscowmitch, gonna have to pick obama's executive actions or democrats bill.

Nintex · « **Reply #39047 on:** August 06, 2019, 01:05:12 PM »

https://twitter.com/Team_Mitch/status/1158768008225050624

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #39048 on:** August 06, 2019, 01:16:03 PM »

Like he has one

kingv · « **Reply #39049 on:** August 06, 2019, 01:51:08 PM »

Quote from: Stro on August 06, 2019, 07:24:34 AM

Quote from: benjipwns on August 05, 2019, 09:36:39 PM
Ohio state representative speaks truth to power:
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Etoilet is from Ohio? And a state rep? AND A WOMAN??!?!

Actually, he is a classic liberal.