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« Reply #42421 on: August 28, 2019, 03:22:55 PM »


Why are all her videos in recently abandoned warehouses?

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« Reply #42423 on: August 28, 2019, 04:14:32 PM »
John McCain fucked from beyond the grave.  :heh
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« Reply #42426 on: August 28, 2019, 04:39:59 PM »
If youre stupid enough to watch cable news, you deserve it
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« Reply #42428 on: August 28, 2019, 04:53:57 PM »
Honestly can Trump win 2020?

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« Reply #42429 on: August 28, 2019, 04:56:29 PM »
Honestly can Trump win 2020?

Do Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida use electronic voting?

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« Reply #42430 on: August 28, 2019, 04:58:51 PM »
Honestly can Trump win 2020?
Probably yes  :(

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« Reply #42431 on: August 28, 2019, 05:02:59 PM »
Trump only won because he was facing the one person in the country he could beat.

People don't want to acknowledge that "Anyone but Hillary" was a legit thing.




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« Reply #42432 on: August 28, 2019, 05:05:08 PM »
Honestly can Trump win 2020?

depends on who Susan Sarandon endorses

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« Reply #42433 on: August 28, 2019, 05:05:44 PM »
Honestly can Trump win 2020?

Well he already have brought back from the freezer his plan B of Trump News if he doesn't...

He obviously could in 2016, don't see why not 2020 too. Election are won in ballots, not in polls and some of it may come down to the dynamic with the final Dem nominee as well.

But a lot of signs seems to trend towards him possibly bombing.

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« Reply #42434 on: August 28, 2019, 05:40:26 PM »

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« Reply #42435 on: August 28, 2019, 05:42:19 PM »
James will be ecstatic

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« Reply #42436 on: August 28, 2019, 05:44:52 PM »
Trump is gambling on a number of high risk bets at this point in his presidency
- Ending the war in Afghanistan without losing Kabul the day after
- Containing Iran and protecting oil shipments in the gulf
- Keeping North Korea at bay by being pen pals with Kim Jun Un
- Siding with the UK instead of the EU on Brexit
- Fighting a trade war in China (which is so far admittedly costing China more than the US)
- Building his 'wall-fence' through a number of loopholes and desperate measures
- Siding solely with Israel on the Palestinian issue and enlisting the Saudi's to help implement Kushner's peace plan in Gaza
- Significantly increasing government spending to keep the economic boom going
- Appointing very few new government officials in place of those fired/leaving/retiring

It could either all literally blow up in his face or a few of these successfully checked by late 2020 secure his reelection.
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« Reply #42438 on: August 28, 2019, 05:49:33 PM »
Trump only won because he was facing the one person in the country he could beat.

People don't want to acknowledge that "Anyone but Hillary" was a legit thing.

1) Hillary “thicker than a motherfucker” Clinton is the most qualified person ever to run for any office in any country ever.
2) Bernie Bros

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« Reply #42439 on: August 28, 2019, 05:50:19 PM »
https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1166826026128666624

She was too good for us  :'(

She going to endorse Al Franken, isn’t she?

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« Reply #42440 on: August 28, 2019, 05:54:40 PM »
I just realized I won't be able to embrace Gillibitch polling at 0% every week and now I'm sad
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« Reply #42441 on: August 28, 2019, 05:55:07 PM »
Holy fuck you're stupid.
Ending the war in Afghanistan or the war on terror in general would be a pretty big thing.
I mean, that has been going on for 18 years now.

However, it could also end in the US 'losing' the war after 18 years and the Taliban retaking control of the country in mere weeks or months after the US leaves.
Literally all the things he's currently betting on could easily completely go wrong and blow up in his face. Which is different from his earlier plans like the tax cuts.
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« Reply #42442 on: August 28, 2019, 06:18:37 PM »
The war in Afghanistan, if it is indeed about reducing "the Taliban" to a minor political power, has been lost many years ago now. No one even pretend to cares anymore in the political leadership yet there's still over 10k US troops there (plus allies) bleeding blood and treasure. I suspect the US could maybe retire tomorrow and let it all crumble the day after and the hit would be somewhat negligible with the domestic crowd as long as it's not a total shitshow like the fall of Saigon. Yeah you'll have a bunch of AK wielding scary brown dudes celebrating, mocking the US, burning flags and whatnot, those images will sting the public but as a layman it seems like this has been inevitable for a while and it will be 5 years from now.

I don't think anything point to Trump particularly caring about Afghanistan or walking the walk of some of the implicit promises (that were evidently overblown by some desperately looking for a silver lining) of challenging the statu quo of current military presence overseas.
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« Reply #42443 on: August 28, 2019, 06:23:03 PM »
I just realized I won't be able to embrace Gillibitch polling at 0% every week and now I'm sad
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« Reply #42444 on: August 28, 2019, 06:26:11 PM »
Ding dong the gillibitch is dead :jeb

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« Reply #42445 on: August 28, 2019, 06:29:07 PM »
Honestly can Trump win 2020?

If the next recession hasn't hit yet and the democratic nominee hardlines on free college for all, elimination of private insurance/choice of doctors, yeah sadly he'd win.

Problem is there are 2 large wings of the democratic party, the traditional dems and the democratic socialists. Democratic socialist policies are widely unpopular with the general population.

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« Reply #42446 on: August 28, 2019, 06:29:41 PM »
Which one is gillibrand

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« Reply #42447 on: August 28, 2019, 06:33:48 PM »
She's not the holistic nutter. The other unpopular female candidate.

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« Reply #42448 on: August 28, 2019, 06:39:31 PM »
The war in Afghanistan, if it is indeed about reducing "the Taliban" to a minor political power, has been lost many years ago now. No one even pretend to cares anymore in the political leadership yet there's still over 10k US troops there (plus allies) bleeding blood and treasure. I suspect the US could maybe retire tomorrow and let it all crumble the day after and the hit would be somewhat negligible with the domestic crowd as long as it's not a total shitshow like the fall of Saigon. Yeah you'll have a bunch of AK wielding scary brown dudes celebrating, mocking the US, burning flags and whatnot, those images will sting the public but as a layman it seems like this has been inevitable for a while and it will be 5 years from now.

I don't think anything point to Trump particularly caring about Afghanistan or walking the walk of some of the implicit promises (that were evidently overblown by some desperately looking for a silver lining) of challenging the statu quo of current military presence overseas.
Trump doesn't care about Afghanistan but he cares about winning. He already floated the idea of nuking Afghanistan to win the war.
That's literally his plan to win 'in 10 days'. Turn it into a radioactive parking lot.

If the defeat in Afghanistan makes him look bad he'll consider it again.
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« Reply #42449 on: August 28, 2019, 06:42:25 PM »
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« Reply #42450 on: August 28, 2019, 06:43:11 PM »
Trump only won because he was facing the one person in the country he could beat.

People don't want to acknowledge that "Anyone but Hillary" was a legit thing.

Because it's not.  It was a combination of demonization by the right and lack of inspiration for the left that lost her the election which can easily happen to a majority of the dem candidates. 

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« Reply #42451 on: August 28, 2019, 06:45:36 PM »
The war in Afghanistan, if it is indeed about reducing "the Taliban" to a minor political power, has been lost many years ago now. No one even pretend to cares anymore in the political leadership yet there's still over 10k US troops there (plus allies) bleeding blood and treasure. I suspect the US could maybe retire tomorrow and let it all crumble the day after and the hit would be somewhat negligible with the domestic crowd as long as it's not a total shitshow like the fall of Saigon. Yeah you'll have a bunch of AK wielding scary brown dudes celebrating, mocking the US, burning flags and whatnot, those images will sting the public but as a layman it seems like this has been inevitable for a while and it will be 5 years from now.

I don't think anything point to Trump particularly caring about Afghanistan or walking the walk of some of the implicit promises (that were evidently overblown by some desperately looking for a silver lining) of challenging the statu quo of current military presence overseas.
Trump doesn't care about Afghanistan but he cares about winning. He already floated the idea of nuking Afghanistan to win the war.
That's literally his plan to win 'in 10 days'. Turn it into a radioactive parking lot.

If the defeat in Afghanistan makes him look bad he'll consider it again.

Trump says a lot of things.
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« Reply #42453 on: August 28, 2019, 07:12:47 PM »
She sounds like bernie in 2016 when they asked him about BLM.

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« Reply #42454 on: August 28, 2019, 07:14:48 PM »
they needed to keep tulsi out of the debates, she was going to take out warren next  :maf
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« Reply #42455 on: August 28, 2019, 07:34:04 PM »
I guess she don’t have a plant for that.

Kamala is the only one that can really fix this. Who knows more about mass incarceration than 12?

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« Reply #42456 on: August 28, 2019, 08:15:57 PM »
I'm looking forward to SNL debate skits. Imagine doctors in white coats coming out to defibulate Biden.




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« Reply #42462 on: August 28, 2019, 08:45:59 PM »
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« Reply #42464 on: August 28, 2019, 10:20:19 PM »
there's not a chance in hell:



the "campaign events held" chart would be even more lopsided than the donations, like 2/98 for Wu who spends all their time going to conferences while her "team" (Frank) goes to local events once a month, the campaign pretty much exists purely on Twitter where all the followers are nobody who can vote for her

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« Reply #42465 on: August 28, 2019, 10:23:56 PM »
a true Party "oppo droppo" would vaporize her from orbit faster than some dropped moon rocks

to start with would be the whole fact how her "cybersecurity/technology firm" doesn't even exist on paper, and the website for it (aka the game studio) hasn't been updated since 2015


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« Reply #42467 on: August 28, 2019, 10:32:36 PM »
I've never seen a Twitter video of a Twitter video before, that's a new one.

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« Reply #42468 on: August 28, 2019, 10:35:29 PM »
Um, that video is obviously some seconds.

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« Reply #42469 on: August 28, 2019, 10:37:56 PM »
Woke Beto is the best turn in this elections subplots, cmv :rejoice :lol
you didn't wait for the Relaunch:
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When asked whether the campaign would be kicking Breitbart out of any events moving forward, she responded, "We will continue making Beto available to the media and as many events as possible open to the press."

When pressed on whether reporters from Breitbart or any other outlet, regardless of ideology, will face restrictions on access to future events, Cavalier said "there will be no restricted access to future events."

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« Reply #42472 on: August 28, 2019, 10:47:39 PM »
Many Democrats were crossing their fingers that Mr. Steyer didn’t force his way into the September debate and make it a two-night affair, but few were willing to criticize him publicly because he is one of the party’s biggest donors. Some Democrats are angry with Mr. Perez over long-established qualification rules, while others have quiet sympathy for what they say is a thankless plight.

And while party officials spent the summer humoring the no-shot candidates who have failed to demonstrate support through fund-raising or polling, patience among some Democrats was running low.

“If you are a few months before the Iowa caucuses and you can’t get 130,000 donors and can’t crack 2 percent in a couple of polls, that’s on you,” said Mo Elleithee, a former top D.N.C. official who is now the executive director of Georgetown University’s Institute of Politics. “There is an appetite to start being able to focus on the candidates who have demonstrated the most movement in this race. That is probably shared by a lot of Democratic primary voters.”

Still, some party officials lamented a system that limited exposure for lesser-known candidates. The Nebraska Democratic Party chairwoman, Jane Kleeb, a leading figure among rural Democrats, said a debate process that excluded Gov. Steve Bullock of Montana was bad for a party trying to win back voters who flocked to President Trump in 2016.

“Voters aren’t even going to know who Steve Bullock is and that we have a governor representing a red state and doing it with strong progressive values,” Ms. Kleeb said. “To me it shows the strength of our party that we have so many people running.”

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Candidates on the brink of missing the debate spent this week airing grievances and regrets. In a last-ditch bid to make the debate, Ms. Gillibrand this month bought more than $1 million in ads in New Hampshire and Iowa, hoping to garner enough support to reach the 2 percent polling threshold.

But there were no qualifying polls in those two states after the ads began airing and before Wednesday’s deadline, and Ms. Gillibrand acknowledged that without the exposure of a nationally televised debate, “I just didn’t see our path.”

Mr. Steyer’s campaign on Wednesday expressed disappointment that there have been no qualifying polls from Nevada. Eight of the last nine qualifying polls have been surveys of the national Democratic electorate. Mr. Steyer hasn’t reached 2 percent in any of them, while he has reached that threshold in polls of Iowa and South Carolina, two of the four early-voting states where he has spent $7 million on TV advertising so far.

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Mr. Bullock’s campaign lamented “arbitrary D.N.C. debate rules” and said the forums should have room for the only candidate in the race who won a state President Trump carried in 2016.

Mr. Bullock, in an interview, pledged to stay in the race through the Iowa caucuses in February whether or not he makes the debates.

“The fact is in many ways you have rules that have empowered Google and Facebook,” he said. “I don’t think it’s empowered the Democratic Party. History has shown time and time again that it’s not what happens in September that determines who our nominee is or who is successful.”

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If Mr. Perez again raises the donor threshold, it would force campaigns to redirect money earmarked for early-state organizing toward social media campaigns, in order to drive up donor numbers. Former Representative Beto O’Rourke of Texas, whose fund-raising has dried up after a fast start, emailed supporters Tuesday warning that without more contributions he could be left off the winter debate stage.

While Ms. Gillibrand and others have withdrawn, no top-tier candidate has  pulled out — a break from the last two crowded presidential campaigns.

Tim Pawlenty terminated his 2012 campaign in the Republican primary in August 2011 after losing the Ames Straw Poll to a fellow Minnesotan, Michele Bachmann. Scott Walker quit the 2016 race in September 2015 when his big-spending campaign ran out of money.

“Anyone who isn’t going to be on the debate stage in September when voters are starting to tune in is essentially running a zombie campaign,” said Alex Conant, a Republican strategist who worked for Mr. Pawlenty and then Marco Rubio in 2016. “Voters want to support people on the debate stage. The takeaway from the last couple cycles is that the only thing that matters is debates.”

If nothing else, the downsizing of the September debate week — one overstuffed stage instead of two — has afforded weary Democrats a prospective night off. Even political die-hards had groaned at the specter of a second debate on a Friday evening, viewing it as a kind of municipal homework assignment.

Of course, the respite may be short-lived: With one more qualifying poll, Mr. Steyer will make the October debate stage, likely making that a two-night affair.
I still think they should consider just one set of something like a 6/6 or 5/5 debate instead of doing a 10 or 11 or 12 person debate. I know they want to winnow out all the candidates who can't run a national primary campaign the year prior, but if the field is truly as strong as they (or Alyssa Milano) keep claiming then it's worth doubling the time for everyone rather than trying to jam them together for fisticuffs to properly fire up a campaign like happened to Kamala Harris who is now polling even worse than she was before the debates despite the brief jump to second place after dragging presumptive nominee Joe Biden.

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« Reply #42473 on: August 28, 2019, 10:52:04 PM »
The Beto Relaunch:

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« Reply #42474 on: August 28, 2019, 10:57:13 PM »
They should have Biden in both sets of split debates.

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« Reply #42476 on: August 28, 2019, 11:20:07 PM »
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« Reply #42477 on: August 28, 2019, 11:20:47 PM »
https://twitter.com/cit_uprising/status/1166776553457500171

 :thinking

What do you call it when the pollsters try to unskew the polls themselves?

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« Reply #42478 on: August 28, 2019, 11:26:59 PM »
Standard practice?